@@DanielBoyMan1 Goku feels like he needs to as well, it's the reasoning behind that need that's different. Gokus need for strength is instinct, like the need for food and water, it's just a part of him, whereas Vegitas need is out of pride, because he's a king without a kingdom, and the equivalent of a surf has surpassed him in almost every meaningful way. And yes Vegita should be King not Prince, there was just no throne to inherit.
@@gloopglop7540pretty sure the tier list is: 1) Android 18 2) Vegeta 3) Krillin 4) Bulma 5) Master Roshi 6) Goku Goku in DB, DBZ, DBZK, was great. Then GT, Super and the such ruined his character. Many of the next generation borderline hate Goku and they all love Vegeta (I'm a Vegeta fan since the early 2000s so this is awesome for me)
It's alright people, it's just another ignorant person using the word "underrated" as if it's a hype word. Seriously though, know the real definition before using it. Stop embarrassing yourself.
@@alexmason25593 Vegeta: I WILL USE THE NAME GIVEN TO HIM BY THE GREAT SAIYAN RACE KAKAROT KAKAROT KAKOROT Broly: KAKAROTTTTTTT Vegeta: See hes slow and he gets it
When i first saw this I was a kid i didnt really pay attention. Now as an adult, I fully understand the impact of that speech, vegeta lost everything, worked long and hard to become stronger than his oppressor, only to be surpassed by a "lower class wretch", serious respect to vegeta.
Same! As an adult, I get it. His “birthright” is just that thing he always would help him deal with the trauma of everything he had to deal with and the hope he could avenge his people. Goku took that from him in Namek. And made it worst against Cell. His “pride”, which is the voice he told himself when his people died that he was destined for greatness was destroyed by Goku’s actions. 😢
And the payoff was Vegeta realizing this was a stupid way of thinking "You're better than me Kakarot" He's accepted that it's ok for Goku to be stronger, it doesn't make him a failure
This arc is Vegeta's defining moment. His revenge bout with Goku releases Majin Buu and Vegeta realizes rather quickly that Buu is the kind of creature that will indiscriminately destroy everything in his path. He realizes how foolish he was to take such a risk just to appease his own pride, so he makes the ultimate sacrifice to try to put a stop to Buu.
Goku still stronger vegeta saved goku life but most of the time is because vegeta wasn’t strong enough to be the opponent that being said saving his life at that point doesn’t count
The beauty of vegetas character is the lessons you watch him learn. To where he becomes more like goku. Then, he eventually realizes what's actually important to him. His younger self would consider his views now as weak. Even though it has made him stronger than he ever thought was possible. My bulma is a good example of that strength for the protection of what you hold dear.
I love Goku he is funny and never gives up. But vegeta is the One who resemble normal people who no matter how hard you train there is a guy who always pass you and left you behind in the same dream, but he never gives hope.
And the funniest part still? Toriyama didn’t really care for vegeta all that much. He just found vegeta to be helpful to have around. Which is entirely true. Without vegeta most of the dragon ball z series wouldn’t even exist.
@@mr_fox8066 Nah. Toriyama most likely didn't write the destroyer gods yet. If Shin died here, either the Destroyer Gods would have never existed to begin with, or they would simply not be connected to each other.
God I will never get tired of his speeches. Even though his character are has been the most defined. He will always have the charisma to make his point clear and what his intentions are, in order to get it through to everyone.
I had never identified with Vegeta more than Goku until this moment. I always admire Goku’s optimism, and his want to get stronger. But Vegeta- man, he really doesn’t get told enough that he is a great warrior, and even when Goku tells him, he still feels cheated, only because they’re literally the last two full blooded Saiyans. I grew up the short kid with a temper issues and ADHD. I went to high school and had lots of bitter experiences with death and many betrayals from friends and family. I found solace in kickboxing and weightlifting, and my trainers taught me so much about channeling my mind and my heart into something I can weaponize to protect, and not hurt, but THIS moment that Vegeta has- really is a vulnerable one- and reminds me of my old, bitter self. I’m glad I got better.
Bro the last part “He has stole my honor and his debt must be paid” goku mean mugging the shit out of vegetable. Next frame would’ve showed Gohan grown up with a face of realization of why vegetas anger and rivalry are that intense and important against his father!! Gohan has always been there to see everything happens understanding it his way but not it Vegetas shoes! God this line give me goosebumps! RIP Toriyama
Damn this hit so hard when I was a child. I didn’t even fully understand the magnitude of Vegita’s grievances until I rewatched Z when I got older. Fam… This can be so relatable.
This is one of the better shorts I've seen. The clip is obviously great. Mixing in scenes of destroying the planet Vegeta, Frieza's terror, inferiority on Namek, and the music is synced,appropriate, and not too loud.
Vegeta had it completely backwards, Goku never did all those things to shatter his honor, to prove that despite not being a prince he could surpass him. Goku only fought to protect those he loved and saved those who he believed could be redeemed. The Buu saga has the best ending regarding all this. I won't spoil for those who did not watch. But back in the days when i first watched it, the story really got to me. I don't know if its the same for most people.
But that isn't the point here. People perceive things differently. When someone helps someone it doesn't mean the the receiver is going to feel about it positively just coz the other person has positive thoughts.
Ya know.. the dialogue here is masterful.... And it legit made me wonder... How the hell do all these alien races and dieties understand and speak the same human language better than the humans shown in the series!?!
@@Dr.UmbrellaBecause Goku has no brain. He beat him off when he was a kid, lol. And so Vegeta defeated Goku in the 3rd battle and Goku admitted defeat
This has always been his obstacle and his motivation for power, this traumatic mindset is his limit and his way to break it. This is why Goku is almost always one step ahead.
I started watching DBZ with this arc. Sad I know, but Vegeta soon became my favorite character because of this arc. After finishing the entire series and coming back to this, the words and their weight hold much more meaning. Vegeta is the goat.
The crazy thing is buu saga is so peak at this specific point. That Vegeta learns that his pride is what holds him back. Through facing a goku evenly that was only at 70% full power. 😭
Reminds me a bit of Zamasu. Aloof, up his own arse and doesn't can't read people. Maybe all the Supreme Kai's are like this? "But they're just mortals." *Goku powers up SSJ2* "Guess I'll go steal a mortals body now"
The whole point of that scene was to show Vegeta clearly doing things that are ethically wrong to get what he wants, I don’t think there’s a point in saying “Mass murder is wrong” that’s obvious
Growing up I didn't understand Vegeta's character all that much, so my favorite character was always Goku. Now that I've grown up and become an adult I find myself resonating more with Vegeta and his own personal heroes' journey.
Vegeta so dramatic… he misses Goku and wants to hang out… Vegeta is basically the menace of DBZ. The amount of problems he causes… But we love him for it
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notice goku never disagrees. he just is like “yup now you wanna brawl or not?”
Goku knows that exact desire to surpass someone. It just expresses itself differently in him.
@@sharkapuppet goku dose it for fun, vegeta dose it because he feels like he needs to
@@DanielBoyMan1 Goku feels like he needs to as well, it's the reasoning behind that need that's different. Gokus need for strength is instinct, like the need for food and water, it's just a part of him, whereas Vegitas need is out of pride, because he's a king without a kingdom, and the equivalent of a surf has surpassed him in almost every meaningful way. And yes Vegita should be King not Prince, there was just no throne to inherit.
@@CH-cn8tk ya, goku has the need to because its an instinct, vegeta feels like needs to because he feels like hes putting shame to his blood line
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"And his debts, must be paid" that shit was fucking cold
Paying debts by saving his life. How tf do that sound or other lifes.
Straight up. Was a total OG moment
What my collectors tell me.
He's the one who's got debts to pay, not Goku.
I got goosebumps after he said that lol
Vegeta is the type of guy who can make beautiful poetry and language like Shakespeare🔥
Shakespeare is many things, "beautiful" is not even remotely accurate. Dude was "Family Guy" of his time lmao
@@bobbybrown475 "What, you egg?" *He stabs him*
@@vikinglupa "unsheathe thy naked weapon"
Vegeta is underrated. Voice actor is on point too.
Underrated? He’s the second most popular character occasionally rivaling goku in popularity
Are you sure about that? Are you sure about that?😂
@@gloopglop7540pretty sure the tier list is:
1) Android 18
2) Vegeta
3) Krillin
4) Bulma
5) Master Roshi
6) Goku
Goku in DB, DBZ, DBZK, was great. Then GT, Super and the such ruined his character. Many of the next generation borderline hate Goku and they all love Vegeta (I'm a Vegeta fan since the early 2000s so this is awesome for me)
Do you even know how popular dbz is?
It's alright people, it's just another ignorant person using the word "underrated" as if it's a hype word.
Seriously though, know the real definition before using it. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Notice that Goku at that moment was indeed “Kakarot”. His face said it!
It was wise of Goku to remain silent
Goku: Stop it, Geets! You’re not a bad guy!
Vegeta: Since when?!
You were at Krillins barbecue last weekend
@@samsnellman3789Vegeta: Yeah, & I brought potato salad
Goku: he is truly lost to us
@@samsnellman3789 vegeta: LOOK AT ME KAKAROT!! IM GOING TO PTA MEETINGS WITH KILLIN-OH GOD I REMEMBER HIS NAME
@@alexmason25593 Vegeta: I WILL USE THE NAME GIVEN TO HIM BY THE GREAT SAIYAN RACE KAKAROT KAKAROT KAKOROT Broly: KAKAROTTTTTTT Vegeta: See hes slow and he gets it
you are bad guy, but you are not "bad guy"
And after all that, Vegeta turns out to be the best father and the best friend😊
Bc it's the only way he can beat & become better then gokul lol 😂
nah, goku beats the dead beat dad allegations everytime
Not Best father at all and those depths will never be paid
Most ppl just need a good environment to thrive and Goku could give him that.
When i first saw this I was a kid i didnt really pay attention. Now as an adult, I fully understand the impact of that speech, vegeta lost everything, worked long and hard to become stronger than his oppressor, only to be surpassed by a "lower class wretch", serious respect to vegeta.
Vegeta taught me pride
Same! As an adult, I get it. His “birthright” is just that thing he always would help him deal with the trauma of everything he had to deal with and the hope he could avenge his people. Goku took that from him in Namek. And made it worst against Cell. His “pride”, which is the voice he told himself when his people died that he was destined for greatness was destroyed by Goku’s actions. 😢
You aren't serious
And the payoff was Vegeta realizing this was a stupid way of thinking
"You're better than me Kakarot"
He's accepted that it's ok for Goku to be stronger, it doesn't make him a failure
Seriously? He was mad at Goku for doing something that he was supposed to do? Loser
This arc is Vegeta's defining moment. His revenge bout with Goku releases Majin Buu and Vegeta realizes rather quickly that Buu is the kind of creature that will indiscriminately destroy everything in his path. He realizes how foolish he was to take such a risk just to appease his own pride, so he makes the ultimate sacrifice to try to put a stop to Buu.
Yep this is the arc that made Vegeta my favorite character in DB
😌👌 poetry
“Spend most of your life ruled by another” hits kinda deep. Vegeta has been hurting
Hes even saved my life as if i were a helpless child..
Its true 😂
While he is being willfully blind to the number of times that he has saved Goku.
Goku still stronger vegeta saved goku life but most of the time is because vegeta wasn’t strong enough to be the opponent that being said saving his life at that point doesn’t count
This happens most of the time not all the time so don’t go rewatching dragon just to pull up an example
@@zahidlopez2778 exactly..
@@thalastianjorus when did vegeta ever save gokus life?!?!
The beauty of vegetas character is the lessons you watch him learn. To where he becomes more like goku. Then, he eventually realizes what's actually important to him. His younger self would consider his views now as weak. Even though it has made him stronger than he ever thought was possible. My bulma is a good example of that strength for the protection of what you hold dear.
I love Goku he is funny and never gives up. But vegeta is the One who resemble normal people who no matter how hard you train there is a guy who always pass you and left you behind in the same dream, but he never gives hope.
Goku gave up when he fought against Cell 🗿
Z fighters just always help him. He can't do anything alone
Vegeta's ark and character development was on another level
And the funniest part still? Toriyama didn’t really care for vegeta all that much. He just found vegeta to be helpful to have around.
Which is entirely true. Without vegeta most of the dragon ball z series wouldn’t even exist.
imagine he is secret main character of this show
@@Blabla-ch4veI mean, he’s the one who constantly loses and has to pick himself back up and work harder. So you tell me.
Dude has some of the best lines in all of anime.
This make the rain scene hit hard
"Meaningless squabble"
Vegeta: and i took that personally
Vegeta has the best character development ever, prove me wrong
No one can prove this wrong because it's the absolute truth
THIS is how you build a compelling character. Show this to the Supersimps.
Just casually hiding Super Saiyan 3.
That was the moment that beerus was closest to destruction of his own in sleep
correct. If Vegeta took his anger out on baldy mc.mohawk over here it would be over.
@@mr_fox8066 Nah. Toriyama most likely didn't write the destroyer gods yet. If Shin died here, either the Destroyer Gods would have never existed to begin with, or they would simply not be connected to each other.
@@MikaeruDaiTenshi Agree
meanwhile the people watching like nothing has happened😂😂😂
hearing Vegeta's speeches are worth it
"AND HIS DEBTS MUST BE PAID!" Tell me that ain't OG.
FOREVER PRINCE VEGETA!
God I will never get tired of his speeches. Even though his character are has been the most defined. He will always have the charisma to make his point clear and what his intentions are, in order to get it through to everyone.
The respect vegeta has for goku is always at a such a height its like anytime goku is around vegetas pride doubles
When Vegeta said _”stand aside!”_ to Gohan. I wished Gohan had turn ssj2. Let’s be real, he’s still a worthy opponent.
Vegeta at his best the prince and his pride
“Every breath you take is an assault on my honor” - Vegeta to goku his ‘best friend’ lmao
They are eternal rivals, not best friends. Vegeta still hates Goku. Especially after Goku brought Frieza back
I had never identified with Vegeta more than Goku until this moment. I always admire Goku’s optimism, and his want to get stronger.
But Vegeta- man, he really doesn’t get told enough that he is a great warrior, and even when Goku tells him, he still feels cheated, only because they’re literally the last two full blooded Saiyans.
I grew up the short kid with a temper issues and ADHD. I went to high school and had lots of bitter experiences with death and many betrayals from friends and family. I found solace in kickboxing and weightlifting, and my trainers taught me so much about channeling my mind and my heart into something I can weaponize to protect, and not hurt, but THIS moment that Vegeta has- really is a vulnerable one- and reminds me of my old, bitter self.
I’m glad I got better.
🫡👊🏻 Stay strong bro. The hardest pasts make for the most powerful testimonies.
To this day, one of my favorite Prince Vegeta moments was his Final Flash against Jiren 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The greatest series of anime episodes ever.
The dialogue for this entire fight sequence between Goku and Majin Vegeta is just so bad ass. Probably the best in the entire series IMO
Bro the last part “He has stole my honor and his debt must be paid” goku mean mugging the shit out of vegetable. Next frame would’ve showed Gohan grown up with a face of realization of why vegetas anger and rivalry are that intense and important against his father!! Gohan has always been there to see everything happens understanding it his way but not it Vegetas shoes! God this line give me goosebumps! RIP Toriyama
The older you the more you understand vegeta
The King challenging his best warrior, to show he'll stand on business.
Goku is just like"ok can we fight now"
Damn this hit so hard when I was a child. I didn’t even fully understand the magnitude of Vegita’s grievances until I rewatched Z when I got older. Fam… This can be so relatable.
This is one of the better shorts I've seen. The clip is obviously great. Mixing in scenes of destroying the planet Vegeta, Frieza's terror, inferiority on Namek, and the music is synced,appropriate, and not too loud.
Vegeta had it completely backwards, Goku never did all those things to shatter his honor, to prove that despite not being a prince he could surpass him. Goku only fought to protect those he loved and saved those who he believed could be redeemed. The Buu saga has the best ending regarding all this. I won't spoil for those who did not watch. But back in the days when i first watched it, the story really got to me. I don't know if its the same for most people.
But that isn't the point here. People perceive things differently. When someone helps someone it doesn't mean the the receiver is going to feel about it positively just coz the other person has positive thoughts.
Ya know.. the dialogue here is masterful.... And it legit made me wonder... How the hell do all these alien races and dieties understand and speak the same human language better than the humans shown in the series!?!
i love him being so confused saying "Who are you People??"
Vegeta truly is the best antagonist in all of anime.
Vegeta is the best character in DBZ hands down
Goku lookin like "I'll beat his ass"
Fr
Goku never won a fight against Vegeta 😂
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@@Olya0247 mentally he beats Vegeta every fight cuz his brain don't overthink like Vegeta
@@Dr.UmbrellaBecause Goku has no brain. He beat him off when he was a kid, lol. And so Vegeta defeated Goku in the 3rd battle and Goku admitted defeat
Vegeta Is right About Beating Goku he needs to Show Pepole that Hes more than Just a Side Character😭🙏
“Who are you people”
If only you knew…
This has always been his obstacle and his motivation for power, this traumatic mindset is his limit and his way to break it.
This is why Goku is almost always one step ahead.
I swear Vegeta was so delusional in those old days, all his past trauma had held him back from growing or recovering from the old wounds
He was stuck in the past.
Goku and Vegeta are the best rival's I've ever seen, or at least top 3
Best arc ever. The development of vegeta is unmatched
Nothing matters more than vegeta and gokus rivalry and if anyone gets in there way their dead
I can feel Vegeta's pain in this scene
Pain? This scene honestly showed how much of a spoiled child he is
@@adomfranklin2515entitled maybe but spoiled? Bro i can’t agree with you on that
@@w3lcom39 he was whining about wanting to be a super saiyan like a kid😂
being vegeta is not easy everyday keep doing work hard have to challenge who is born talented
Bro this shit hits hard man. My childhood keeps coming back to me hahaha I love it! Now I enjoy these episodes with my son!
Nobody can speak like the Saiyan prince! 🔥
Majin buu saga was just vegetas redemption arc fr
vegeta is such a tsundere
When you are a child and grow up, you want to be like Goku. But as an adult you understand Végéta.
Vegeta speech is always top tier
I started watching DBZ with this arc. Sad I know, but Vegeta soon became my favorite character because of this arc. After finishing the entire series and coming back to this, the words and their weight hold much more meaning. Vegeta is the goat.
Out of all goku understand vegeta the best. He always agrees whatever vegeta says
"WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!?" Has me dying 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My whole body got chills to the point that it felt like my face was inside out
Goku: “are you gon do something ab it?”
😂😂
Goku in his mind: "Yeah...I wont tell him about the SSJ3 "
LOVE your vids
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"this man saved my life...he will pay for this!"
saiyan pride is boundless.
This scene is clever especially since contrasts to when Vegeta finally admits that Goku is number one
This day came close to the end of Beerus
One of the best fights in all of dragon Ball.
Vegeta was still bucking at being Goku's friend. This was his last tantrum before he became his true friend.
The crazy thing is buu saga is so peak at this specific point.
That Vegeta learns that his pride is what holds him back. Through facing a goku evenly that was only at 70% full power. 😭
Chris Sabat knocked it out of the fucking stadium with his performance as majin vegeta.
Jiren and Vegeta tow iconic characters of dragon ball 😢
Vegeta took that personaly
Vegetas speeches always hit hard
All a valid argument, supreme Kai talks about their “meaningless” squabble meanwhile he needs THEM to solve his problem with Buu
Reminds me a bit of Zamasu. Aloof, up his own arse and doesn't can't read people. Maybe all the Supreme Kai's are like this?
"But they're just mortals."
*Goku powers up SSJ2*
"Guess I'll go steal a mortals body now"
@@MrDucktastic I can imagine the sheer trauma zamasu would get if he saw goku go SSblue during that spar
Love this speech
Goku all the time:🗿🗿🗿
Tbh, I think vegeta deserves to kill Frieza (I’m delusional)
nah he does frfr
It would complete the story.
He needs to because he's unfulfilled otherwise
@@jamiemixxismjohnson4193 Nah, Goku steals that from him too. Lol.
@@cloudsteele1989 Nah homie he got that in Resurrection F😂😂😌😌🤣🤣🤣
For the past 26yrs vegeta has always been my go to guy next to piccolo
Low-key Vegeta is the main character 100% absolutely a beast
Probably the best speech in all of fiction
I love your videos 😊
I miss the way Sabat did Vegeta’s voice like this. It’s different in subsequent dubs
No one can beat this version of Vegeta
Bro took"the debts,..have to be paid" seriously to the max💀💀💀
Man db never got this intense again
Love this vid ❤ hoop you have a great day 😊
Thank you so much! I hope you're having a great day aswell :)
Np and thank you for saying that❤
Mass murderer doesnt have the right to say what he wants
Mass murderers go on TV every single day, buddy- they wear suits and they talk to you. I doubt they’re watching this so who are you talking to?
He was particularly controlled by babidi, he’d never act like that normally.
@@user-kk3er5xe7p you never watched dragonball lmao
The whole point of that scene was to show Vegeta clearly doing things that are ethically wrong to get what he wants, I don’t think there’s a point in saying “Mass murder is wrong” that’s obvious
When the only person in the room capable of shutting him up is the guy he's trying to blitz then yes the fuck he does.
Growing up I didn't understand Vegeta's character all that much, so my favorite character was always Goku. Now that I've grown up and become an adult I find myself resonating more with Vegeta and his own personal heroes' journey.
Vegeta makes a good point
Vegeta’s is the deepest car ❤
Vagita gives real speeches😢😢😢😢
OG vegeta was such a well written character
Goku: Whatever you gotta do Geets, I'm just here for the fight
Kakarot looking like are you done?😂
Vegeta so dramatic… he misses Goku and wants to hang out…
Vegeta is basically the menace of DBZ. The amount of problems he causes… But we love him for it