Is the Redline 360c Worth It?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
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I currently own a previous generation Escort Redline (the former long range king), and I still love it. Unfortunately, I will not be spending any more of my money with Escort. I tried calling them years ago to order some accessories, and the rudeness of the representative was astounding! At least I know now that it is not just me that has had a horrible experience with the attitude of their customer service representatives . I’m not going to beg ANYONE to take my money, and the second that I don’t feel as though my patronage is appreciated, my money and I will go elsewhere!
I own 4. In a box collecting dust. I lost the box.
@@defresurrection Good one!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this guy is the BEST! He knows his stuff, he does the research, he gives his option but also keep us in mind. Definitely deserves more subscribers. But in the mean time, thank you for how passionate you are because some of us are passionate as well for things like this and honestly we wait and depend on you to ultimately decide and purchase based on the unbiased videos you put out. Thank you man!
For those that disliked this video, please tell why? I’m honestly curious... mr vortex radar is the most non biased reviewer imho
Some people are negative about everything. What a way to live.
Yeah right , nobody does it better as being so thorough, no reason for thumbs down
Hank's Detailing if it were not for Vortex we would have to roll the dice and take our chances not having any idea of what we would get for performance from any detector. I agree with you, I have no idea why they would dislike his vids?
This is definitely one of the channels where I do not understand a single downvote.
I like to think that it’s police officers who dislike my videos, lol
I will wait for Theia before making my next purchase. I think almost all of us are going to wait to see the Theia testing results before we put down our money for another detector.
To@1776 ; My original post was over a year ago. At that time in 2020 everyone believed that Theia would be out in 2021. Now people say 2022.
I think you are correct, 3022 is when Theia will arrive, NOT 2022. I’m seriously thinking about replacing my V1G1 with a V1G2 soon and beating the Christmas rush. Any posting you make about your new V1G2 would be greatly appreciated.
Escort won me on the 9500ix when it came out, then lost me on the Max and Max360. Marketed as having DSP to analyze a radar signal DNA(much like what Theia looks like it could do much better). The performance was not much better than the 9500ix at the time. Until Escort does something that impresses me, I won't be buying their detectors. It is not a matter of whether the RL360c is worth it, it is a matter of whether Escort (the company) is worth it.
One of your best vlogs! I have been contemplating which RD to go with. Personally, I prefer the plug and play benefits of the Max 360C and Redline 360C and have called Escort in an attempt to gain information...once for each unit over a two week span. I spoke with Barbara in sales and she rattled off the same exact identical spill for each products, and when I questioned her about specific deficiencies she was clueless and assured me that she has each unit and has never experienced that problem with her unit...obviously BS. She is trying to sell these units by either not answering pointed questions, being short and rude, or repeating previously declared information that is coming from a sales sheet provided. Very unprofessional sales people who know very little about the products they are trying to sell. Same can be said about Sheldon or whatever the dude's name is who is her counterpart. I specifically inquired about the processor now being implemented in the RL360C and whether or not is was new or the same used in the Max 360C. Neither of them had any idea what so ever. Escort needs to revamp their marketing department and hire sales PROFESSIONALS. Of course, all this is humbly IMO...what do I know?
Great video about the different features of different radar detectors. ...I have owned a escort 4500 , The 8500 , Valentine 1 Gen1 ...They were all good detectors- But i now own a R7 and just love it!
Great video thanks. Still waiting for Theia. I’ll keep my R3 in meantime.
Its starting to look like I will be 6 ft under in the graveyard before theia is released
Waiting for Theia and will keep my R3 no matter what I get next.
Since I have been a V1G1 user for decades I feel I must have ARROWS; if I didn't feel this way I would get the R3 today.
I'm in the same boat with you. Running the R3 until @Vortex tells me what he thinks about Theia after it is released :)
I am in the Same shoes as you... R3!!! To Theia!!!
Theia is never coming out
I'll stay with my R7 and wait for the Vortex results of Theia.
im doing the same thing, just keeping my R7 till theia comes out
Are you guys have any problem with R7 my R7 not detecting any police radar
@@sasanheidari6948 No I don't have any problems. Some days I don't get any radar because the police aren't always around. Then some days I'll get radar from 3 police cars while I'm driving so it depends on the day.
@@sasanheidari6948 Nope, i havent had no problems with my R7, you gotta remember its a police RADAR detector, not a cop car detector. If they are not transmitting radar on any band, there is nothing to detect.😉
@@sasanheidari6948 mine is detecting radar just fine
Absolutely worth it. Same great range as the Redline EX but with much improved BSM filtering and directional arrows. Traded one of my Redline's for it to use on our road trip car. Just set it to auto and go. Very impressed and completely satisfied with it. Will probably trade my second Redline soon.
Thank you for your honest review. Traveling in locations that require RDD immunity, Escort was what I was going to end up going with. I still run a STI Magnum, so I'm due for an upgrade.
Rodenso looks like they're going in the right direction with Theia. I'll sit with the false positives and wait. At a minimum it will (hopefully) majorly increase competition and cause the price to drop.
Holding out upgrading to a new detector until Theia comes out. Since it will have a similar price to Redline, don't want to spend unnecessary money when a better product comes out. But it would be good to know there will be options if nothing falls through.
One advantage to the V1g2 that you leave out: Valentine offers both a Concealed Display unit and a Remote Audio panel for those of us that prefer a stealthy installation. Any police officer that can see your detector stuck prominently on your windshield or mounted under your rear-view mirror is unlikely to give you a warning versus a ticket. With these accessories you can install your V1g2 discretely and control it from below the dash. I’ve installed 1st generation V1’s in Kleenex boxes and even on the rear parcel shelf; you just can’t do that kind of installation with a detector that requires that you have a clear view of the display and easy access to button controls. I wish that more manufacturers would offer these sorts of accessories.
Spike T excellent points. I too value stealth. In one vehicle, I can run my R3 in the tint strip and it’s nearly impossible to see from the outside and when the visor is down from the inside. Due to suction cup issues on the other car, it is on a blendmount. With that, I run in dark mode with the most dim settings when it alerts. If I were to be pulled with the Blendmount config, I’d have to do some quick hiding, supposing it wasn’t initially spotted. Thus, a stealth install would be a lot more “relaxing”, when getting pulled, shall we say.
Just ordered the V1 2nd Gen. Thanks for all your research.
Over the past 20 years I've owned Uniden, Beltronics and Cobra radar detectors (in that order) and out of the 3 I remember the Uniden seemed to last the longest but it wasn't a top tier detector at the time, my Cobra doesn't seem to pick up radar any more or all the cops I've been passing don't use anything the detector can pick up now plus the speaker sounds distorted like it is about to die. After watching these reviews and doing some research here and there I'm going to purchase the Uniden R7.
I’m really liking my new Redline 360C, definitely the quietest detector. The arrow issue seems better with the update. I own the R7 and the V1 Gen2 as well, thanks to Vortex! 😂
Glad to hear it’s working well for you! How would you compare the three overall since you own them and use them too?
American Soldier 777 I’ll be honest, I really want to get this detector but I’m waiting to hear that it’s comparable or better than the R7 and/ or the V1 Gen2.
Vortex Radar v1 Gen 2 best range, great app. Redline 360, love the app as well! Uniden R7 is in the wife’s car, great too, great range. Doing the auto lockouts yourself is really no big deal. Probably like the V1 Gen 2 the best. I love the interface and the options.
@@americansoldier7776 I'm having such a hard time deciding between the R7 and V1G2...
American Soldier 777 thanks for the info! for now I’ll keep my original Redline until I get the 360c
Like you said in the video, Valentine One has been around for a long time, hasn’t changed hands and has always performed at its peak ever evolving. I have the gen 2 and still trying to set it up, but I also have a gen 1 and it never fails. Saved so many times over the last 15 years. You just can’t beat that!
I will keep my R7 for now and wait for Radenso Theia.
I would definitely wait for Theia to arrive before buying the escort. It will probably be only only a little bit more but the promised feature-set, if true, will be worth the wait. As you mentioned, escort does not have a very good reputation and I believe Radenso will make good on most, or all, of their promises for Theia. I personally am looking forward to buying a Theia. I will be keeping my R7 for now.
3 years later and the Theia is still not ready....
I was considering the Escort Redline 360C until I saw this video. Now I’m not sure if I should get one that has problems to begin with. I’ve owned a number of detectors and I have an early escort Max that is still working after I updated it on their site, I also have a Valentine 1 that works fine except for all the false alerts, but I’m used to it, and when Valentine 1 came out with the Gen 2 I ordered one as soon as I could. My Valentine 1 Gen 2 is back at the company for the second time! I sent it back when it quit working and they did a diagnostic on it and returned it to me. I was all set to use it on a short trip and I didn’t make it out of the driveway before I realized they didn’t fix it. It’s doing the same thing it did when I sent it in initially. I was so upset since I planned to use it on my short vacation the end of June. I had to send it back again and I have my fingers crossed that they will do something to it this time to try and fix it, the first return was just a waste of time.
I’m really upset with Valentine and that’s why I was considering the Escort Redline 360C, but it sounds like they launched it before it was ready. Thanks for your videos and all the information you provide.
I run WAZE. For this I have a dedicated display tablet. Running JBV1 with the V1G2 doesn't require any additional hardware in my case. I like having all the additional information at my fingertips. For ME I prefer the V1G2 because I don't need MRCD, MRCT, X or even K in my area. This creates an extremely quite and very effective solution. I also have it tucked away out of sight and use the remote audio and remote display so it doesn't add any clutter to my windshield. I probably have about the same amount invested but feel like I have a better overall solution. JMHO
Yeah it’s a great setup! :)
Reading through the comments, it seems that a log of viewers are in the same boat I am. Perfectly happy with the R3, but eagerly optimistic about Theia. I believe that to be because Radenso has been doing an amazing job explaining Theia, how it works, how it was designed, in clear and easy to understand language.
Escort must have really treated people poorly. I wasn’t expecting to hear “and rightfully so” as part of the analysis on their treatment of their customers.
I currently have my R3 settings and lockouts where the detector is pretty good for my needs. I’d love to have arrows, but BSM and auto program wouldn’t be enough to make me spend that kind of coin, even if I had to start fresh with manual lockouts. I do wish however Uniden could/would release a code push for less quick ramp-up. With a detection on straight, flat terrain, it’s hard to tell of the bogey is on top of you or a mile and a half away.
I’ll be sticking with my V1G2 for the foreseeable future. Right now the Redline 360 is too expensive for what it offers and if Theia comes out around $1,000 the Redline 360c is done.
👍🏽 waiting on my GEN2 to arrive.
Now with the latest V1 update which I installed the other day through V1 connection its even better
@@joestar44 it’s a lifesaver
Just got my V1 Gen 2 a couple of days ago to replace my original V1 (Firmware just before ESP was introduced). Had to put it in "All Bogeys" mode for a bit to be sure it was working! It was so quiet compared to the original I was concerned lol! Thanks Vortex for all your reviews. Probably watched about 10 hours of your videos b4 I finally decided. So expensive In Canada with the exchange and shipping over the border etc... Miss the days when I could just ship to a nearby location in the US and go and pick it up there and avoid about $160 Can in shipping and Brokerage / Taxes etc...
Not sure I believe backorder? Are we sure that wasn't done to prevent old units with old firmware going out before the wildfire of bad press hit. in light of your 07/15 testing, it appears that the R360C is indeed a much improved detector.
I would honestly still wait for more info or thr release of Theia before I buy a Redline 360c to replace my R7. My previous 5 detectors before the R7 were Escorts. I got tired of the high price verses other detectors outperforming them. I am anxiously awaiting to see how Theia ends up being.
Before the 1.3 update it was not worth the 750.00 price tag, I'm not thinking that any longer.
I have had five encounters with Ka police radar the latest this morning. I was on 17 westbound in NY state going up a large hill and the 360 started alerting I checked my odometer in case it was a LEO. As I crested the hill the road curved right over a bridge then straight down hill and at that point I could see the LEO at the bottom of the hill to the right. As close as I could tell it was .8 to.9 of a mile which I thought was outstanding, the ramp up was fine and the arrows worked well too.
Great vid! You are the man! Well done! What you did was difficult and not easy to do! Great job!
Thank you. Yeah this one was tough and I wish I had a more concrete and definitely answer, but this is what we know now. :)
Vortex Radar so if I’m a guy driving a pretty fast sports car that does occasional short bursts to 140 then back to 70 in a short distance what would be the best detector with the Aeros and possibly built in gps long range strong detection is a must thoughts ?? The redline 360 long range detection isn’t the best???
Always look forward to these videos.
I'm a long time Escort loyalist. But when I saw an interview with one of the Cedar guys I felt like I needed a shower after watching. So, I love the idea of Theia and since I'm not driving much these days it shouldn't be to tough. I do really want to try a V1 with JBV1 as I think that would be the way to go if Theia wasn't on the horizon. I like the size of V1, spec.s and JBV1 option. But, Theia......
Currently running Radenso SP. Had previously Uniden R3 and R7. Both were to “chatty” for my liking. The BSM filtering on my SP is excellent and it’s range is adequate for my driving style.
Waiting on Theia if I decide to upgrade.
I’m very happy my new R7
Same
After seeing the Redline 360c launch & problems, even though its better now I’m glad I went with the Uniden R3 for $294.00 & saved 450.00! The R3 works great, has better range than the 360c & the occasional BSM falses are really no big deal. Most police in my area use Ka band & laser so I use it with Waze & Escort Live subscription on my phone... Happy camper here.
Personally I think right now the R7 or the V1 Gen 2 are more worth it. You get better performance and cost less. This new Redline has the capabilities of being very good. I still can't bring myself to pay $750 for it. If Escort fixes the issues and brings the price down to maybe the $500 range then yes I would consider it. Maybe my mind will change if Escort gets their act together.
I dont get these comments of the 360c having the capability of being very good. The detector is out and Escort fixed the arrows and rampup issues. It smoked the R7 and V1G2 in rear detection, so from that perspective it is already "the best". As far as performance if you think that somehow any of the top detectors on the market are somehow going to get an update that is going to increase their distance by another 1/2 mile, that aint gonna happen. They will issue a new model rather put that increase into a current detector. At 80 miles/hr. a car travels 117 feet/sec. In Vortex's test all the top detectors were within 117 feet or w/in 1 second apart from each other (if traveling 80 miles/hr.). It also means that at 80 miles/hr the detectors are detecting 18 seconds before reaching the cop and 13 seconds before the kill zone. You want to get your car under 10 over the limit, so 74 miles/hr in a 65 speed limit, so you need to get your car down by 6 miles/hr in 13 seconds. The point being all the detectors far exceed the limits necessary (even if the cop is using I/O). My original Redline still provides adequate distance protection, what drives me nuts is the filtering on K band. What Vortex reports is that the 360c appears to have the best BSM followed next by the V1G2. The R7 BSM is currently not competitive. Given those facts the logical choices are the 360c or the V1G2, both which provide the maximum distance coverage and are the quietest. One cost $250 more (+tax) than the other. So the question is would you pay $250 more to get auto-lockouts, auto-updates, stealth, and all of the other "non-detection enhancements" offered by the 360c? I would pay a premium, I'm just not sure that I'd pay a $250 premium. I might pay $50 or $100 more but consciously wouldn't do $250. This is where Escort missed the boat. I still run Waze and would run it even with a 360c or a V1G2. Given that, I might as well setup the V1G2 with my phone since I will turn on the phone to run Waze anyway. I can stick the $250 in my pocket and basically have most of the additional features. My two cents......
To me...it comes down to where you live. If you live in a huge city and plan on speeding and more often around small streets and some large routes, red light cameras, then you will need the filtering etc. If you are in a larger rural area, there is no doubt, the R1, R3, R7 is the way to go. That's where I live and my R1 is supreme, soon to go with the R7. I don't need the GPS..so distance is my situation....exactly. Its up to each person.. Companies know too... that they just can't/wont make one detector with all the best features and bells and whistles because then they wont sell any other products. Same as a vehicle..
Yeah mostly waiting for theia since they dropped the old 360c and it's still buggy, But r7 is in mind. I'm so glad you are doing this!!
GREAT report! Thank you for your work! You addressed a lot of the remaining questions in this video. I just have one question - do you know when the proposed release date is for Theia (even an approximation is good)?
If it's expected within the next six months, I would wait. Otherwise I'll buy the V1 Gen 2 as soon as they ramp up to production speed...
They’re still saying this year, though they are working from home again now due to another COVID spike.
@@VortexRadar I'm sure you'll keep us updated. Right now Valentine suggests on their website they're still in 'catch-up" mode so that buys time for Rodensa to get their product out, even if its just for initial testing. If they do this, that will pause those of us from buying now to waiting until their product either is or is not a worthy contender. Based on what we know so far, its a game changer - if it turns out to do all they suggest! Guess I'll wait a bit longer to see....
The Redline besides its Superb RDD immunity seems to be placing it pricing on name recognition and past reputation (excluding customer service).
Redenso needs to step up their range when they launch theia. I'll stick with my R7 until then.
Look, I love the redline. I saw 2 9500ix's come completely apart. Escord said is was a bad batch.....I decided a long time ago to just stick with the redline. And now the time has come to move on,, I love the r7. That's all I got to say about that.
You touched on the difficulty of updating Uniden products. I totally agree. I'd almost rather take a beating than try to go through that process. Please use your stroke to get them to come out with an easier way to do upgrades. (And don't say you don't have stroke!) Escort, as you said, is dead level simple. Almost worth paying a bit extra to have that convenience even at the expense of losing some range. I almost hesitate to replace my R3 with another Uniden detector because of the extreme difficulty to do upgrades. Great review, as usual.
Funny enough were talking about this again recently when MacOS 11 came out and broke compatibility with Uniden’s drivers.
I’ll keep my R3 thank you.
I just took a two way road trip from MD down to Ga by way of Tenn. Feedback: On the way down, radar was quiet and minimal false alerts from BSMs. Not many State Patrols out but did alert accordingly, arrows did't transition well at all. I didn't run Waze but the Database Defender. So summary, on the way down it was okay. On the way back, I did have the 1.3 update which came out while I was in Ga. On return went through Tenn and S.C. with no issues. However, while in S.C. with about five ST on Motorcycles, there was a speed trap and no alert went off. My settings are K wide, Ka 2,5,8 MRCT off. (could someone educate me on what I missed on setup). That was the only time I felt uncovered. Luckily ST came and got the car behind me and didn't come after me. Still no alert so not sure if they were shooting anything or not. After that I used Waze and ran Defender Database in the background. Overall, I was comfortable using and looking forward to my next road trip!!!!!
I live in LI NY, and I'm in the market for a new RD. I had a Beltronics RX65, then an Escort Redline O, which recently died. I skipped the Redline EX and Max360, and I'm looking at the Redline 360C. But its $$$, and the fact that Escort has become such a tough-to-love company give me pause. Also, the initial test results you did showed the rear antenna sux. I agree with all you've said. I would jump all over a V1G2, except for 1) I use iPhone and love CarPlay, and the iOS app isn't as good JBV1 it seems, so I would need to run a 2nd phone in my car. 2) there is no MRCD/CT detection, which exists in NY. Can Waze cover that exposure, I'm not sure? I like the R7 but one thing I got tired of is all the false alarms requiring manual lockout. Legal troubles with auto-lockout make me want to wait-and-see.... and speaking of wait-and-see, Theia is supposedly around the corner. So I'm going to wait, and make a judgement call in a couple months. We'll see how Uniden is doing with the R7 legal issues to allow auto-lock-out, how Escort is doing with firmware updates to the RL360C, and how Radenso does with the Theia release. It's an exciting time.
Done pissing away my money. Got the original Redline, NIB never opened, still haven't gotten around to messing with it. Always a Rabbitt around to speed in front of me. Just follow them, few seconds behind. Thinking bout selling it. Still factory sealed.
Take the Redline back and get a R7. You will be allot happier.
Bought it around 5 years ago factory direct. Don't think they'd return it
Careful with your distance with rabbits. I had a friend pulled who was the last in a group of four. The cop admitted he knew all were speeding, but chose him. I saw a video about Michigan cop interviews and one said he mostly pulled the last car because it was easier. Thus, a rabbit is fantastic, but one needs to be at a distance that the rabbit is the only focus of the LEO.
*I highly, highly, highly (and I cannot stress this enough) HIGHLY recommend that anyone looking at buying a new detector (especially this Redline) now, wait until Theia is released.*
Returned mine this past week. Big disappointment. Who in their right mind release this with all the issues?
The bigger question is can you wait to see the results from the Radenso theia. If it can do everything a DSP radar detector can without any false alerts. Waiting for the smart purchase. Just my thoughts 💭. Or the new vg2 in the meantime.
I’m in Edmonton, the 360c seems to not be detecting lazer radar that police are using here.
You’ll need laser jammers for that, not a radar detector. The ALP is the way to go with all the guns used in Edmonton.
So being in Calgary, AB they don't us much MRCD. BUT they use a ton of REDFLEX k band & my R7 RARELY goes off & when it does go off, it doesn't give me much time to react. I see some people have their RD faced vertically & they claim it helps detect the Red Flex better. I don't understand how that works. Any suggestions buddy?
Thank you. I am looking into my next investment. Amazing overachiever work. Well done.
Can we get back to making detectors small again ?
Nice video...love how you're straight to the point
Vortex I have a 360c and I just purchased it at best buy. Do you think it would provide me adequate protection against the redline 360c
There are some features that the V1G2 has that will make it difficult to switch-other than the price. The count of the total threats and notification of the most immediate threat. I am starting to see laser become a bigger threat in both SC and GA. So maybe laser protection becoming more and more important.
I hope Escort plays this video at one of their corporate meetings. The issues with Escort, especially customer service, are correctable. They could quickly bring customers back but If they haven't already started and if they don't react soon, it'll be apparent to everyone that they just don't care. They can't rely on having a good detector to increase sales, the market for top of the line units is too competitive. I hope Escort realizes that no matter what your product is, your only product is service!
R7 has been great for me, but the multiple bogey is a little lacking, I wish it had the dots like the v1, over all the gps mode is awesome, the long range is the main reason I got it and it lives up to those standards, a car with 750hp need to be warned quickly, and R7 does just that. I liked the v1G2 BUT having to hook up your phone for red light camera warnings was a no for me, the R7 has it all in one package!!!
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So many questions and not so many answers, and I know it isn't the fault of the reviewers. Cedar Electronics (Escort) badly fell on its face, promising outstanding performance coupled with a premium price and delivered at best a mediocre product. I have the Redline EX, and even with the improvements with the Redline 360c, it isn't worth Escort's underwhelming "trade-in allowance". The trade-in allowance still keeps the Redline 360c at a premium to Redline EX on the website. I will add the better trade-in allowance will only be around as long as there are Redline EX's available for purchase.
A Uniden R3 or R7 would probably fit me better than my Redline EX, then the problem is what to do with that unit. Radenso's Theia is very interesting as it promises so much, though at this time it is vaporware.
I hear u. I still run the Original Redline on occasion which is still a solid performer. I am very concerned about how this Redline 360c was launched.
Love your Channel! Just got my Redline 360C. I keep getting a “- - OSP” in the left part of the display instead of the speed limit. Is my unit defective?
That’s common when you’re on roads that don’t have a speed limit, usually smaller roads. Does it happen on both BT and WiFi? You can also try posting here: www.rdforum.org/threads/102956/
Thank you will post on the link you provided. It also happens on roads that have speedlimit. Tested it today. Everything fine. I go into a store, start the car back up and “- - OSP” driving back the same road that showed me the speed limit before.
Ah weird. I’ll grab the RL360c today when I go drive later today to see if I’m seeing that too.
Thank you! I also posted this in the Rdforum.org
Great; thanks for posting it there! I ran it today too and had no issue with the speed limit display so hopefully we can figure out what’s going on for you.
I’ve been looking at detectors for my commuting from New York City to Connecticut every week. I’m not really sure what’s best for those states? I’ve been told valentine v2
I have the max 3 and where I live ka band is police k band is Security and x band is Security too if you get hit with laser they already got you but i honesty love the max 3 if you're on a budget and want something cheaper but works amazing get the escort max 3 then trade it in later on for a more expensive detector
I really love the V1G2 with JBV1 after watching your videos. I can't imagine a better setup IMO
If uniden released an R7 with open API and blue tooth I think that is all it would take for Uniden to dominate the market for years to come.
The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the R7 is it's lack of bluetooth.
Perhaps you can make a comparison video a month from now. This way you can answer the question "is it worth it to you"? Until then I'll hold off a radar purchase.
For sure. 👍
Great video as always Vortex. The real test of a radar detector is how well it integrates into your driving experience and just becomes a part of your car like any other safety feature. Two plus years ago I replaced my V1 with a Max 360c and haven't regretted it. I may not have the best range but I just don't have to think about the detector. I get so few falses and sometimes I forget it's there. Does detector stealth really even matter? I drove through Virginia last weekend and think to myself how many police are really scanning for detectors. I can't imagine many. I wanted to love the Redline 360c but that is just too much money for what it is compared to my Max 360c. I'm not waiting for Theia cause what I have just works.
No more Escorts for me - had a bad experience with them many years back. Running a V1 yet - but been trying to 'upgrade' to the V1 Gen 2. Currently their website says they have shut off the upgrade feature. Hoping they answer my email but I better not hold my breath.
Really waiting for the Theia release. If that pans out - will give the V1 Gen 2 to my son to run. Take care and thank you for the video. Take care and be safe.
I would like to know the 1to 1 comparison between Valentine v1gen2 and escort max 360 by the features
Wish I had waited on the Redline 360c before purchasing the Max 360c :(
I was able to sell my 360c on Ebay for $550 so you can still make most of your money back. Don't trade it in!
Danny...why specifically do you say that?? Was thinking seriously about the Max 360C vs RL 360C.
Don’t get me wrong the Max 360c is great. Just for the extra $100.00 you get the newest and extended range .
I just got my R7 amazing
Great advice but it seems you're a bit bias when it comes to V1G2; It has come across in your last 4-5 videos. I know is hard to be objective especially when owning an original V1 for so long and anticipating a newer version of it. But by saying the R7 fault is the updates and then saying the V1G2 fault is using a phone, I can't really say I agree they those faults stands equally. The faults between the R7 and the V1G2 can't be compared equally; that's like saying the fault of an iPhone is a lack of a physical keyboard and the Blackberry is the lack of App support. The R7 update is almost a non-issue as only some ppl have a problem updating their RD. And it's not like you're updating your RD every week. Uniden releases 2-3 updates a yr for the R platform. As for the V1G2, to really get the meat of it you need to literally tie up your phone to your RD. No GPS, no screen, no MRCD, no lockout, etc makes the V1G2 much worse a radar detector than the Redline 360c and the R7. Of course, when tied to a phone, it matches the R7 and in some areas exceeds it, but most people don't want to tie up their phone to an RD every time they get in their car. So as it "STANDS", you said before the R7 comes out with a better BSM update or Theia comes out to the public, a better comparison is the V1G2 and the R3. Both units offer a great range, but the V1G2 offers arrows but lacks GPS as the R3 offers GPS but lacks arrows.
It’s totally fine, and to be expected, if you have a different opinion. No ones ever gonna agree on everything and at the end of the day, we’re all gonna have our own preferences. We’re humans, not robots. :D
There’s lots and lots of great options. Choose whatever works for you! 👍
@@VortexRadar I agree we are all humans, we all have our preferences but I hope it didn't come out like it was an attack, it clearly wasn't. Just seeing it with a different set of eyes.
I just wanted to point that out to you as you continue to give us, the viewers your opinions and observation on the current developments in the RD community. I clearly follow your channel and bought from your referred links, so I support you in any way possible as I do with any of my friends, that's why I felt like I can clearly say this to you than most of your viewers.
Yeah it’s always a tricky balance to share both my own preferences while still staying considerate that there’s lots of people who all have different needs and preferences. Hopefully I do a good job, but if I ever need to improve, I’m grateful for people like you to let me know so I can make sure I give the best information possible. :)
I usually run waze on my phone along with my radar detector when I drive. Now that I have a v1 gen2 the extra features with the phone is a non issue for me with JBV1 app running in the background. Its great!
Do i need rdd immunity here in Alberta Canada?
Mrcd is now in use in Orlando Florida
Thanks for the heads up. Could you post some information up here, as well as how you're sure it's truly MRCD, and not just a false alert? www.rdforum.org/threads/82511/
What I’d like to know is the K band sensitivity...is the BSM filter just that good or is is reduced K band sensitivity making it seem like it’s BSM filtering is helping eliminating the false alerts? The WiFi would be nice, but realistically how often are we updating firmware? Auto lockouts I could care less....I’m driving pretty much same places...I can mark quickly no issues. Detector immunity? Don’t care....so I just don’t see the value here compared to others. Why is Escort charging so much for this...it’s not bringing better performance, or any new technology to the table...why do they think it’s worth $350-400 more than the competitions offerings? Escort you’d probably make more money overall just in the amount of detectors sold if you’d just lower the damn price!
Should I upgrade from my uniden R3 to the r7 or redline 360c
I have the Union R7 love the radar detector arrows works very well right now in my opinion the top dog radar detectors is a valentine Gen 2 arrows work very well and it does beat the uniden R7 hands down when detecting radar
Diff not worth the money and there customer service is bad, I sent a detector in for repair and when I got it back it died after 2days and I always get subscription expired on the app. I love my R7 and R3.
I have ordered my escort redline 360C. It’s on back order. Escort says it should be in stock to ship by the end of July. Do you think that is going to happen ?
Yep. Back ordered units have already started shipping out again. www.rdforum.org/threads/102215/page-5
Vortex Radar thank you sir.
Is Beltronics not available in the USA anymore? If I go for the REDLINE 360c should I buy the 3 year update package?
Beltronics is all but dead at this point, taken over by Escort. For the Redline, personally I think you're better off saving your money on the update package. So long as you're connected to the cloud, you'll get the latest RLC/speedcam info regardless. The update is mostly for if you want to rely on the internal database and not have your detector connected to the cloud.
@@VortexRadar What about Stinger Plus with the View display? Also do you know anyone that can install it in the WA state area?
The Stinger is only just coming out. I haven’t gotten mine in to test yet. There are no Stinger dealers/installers in WA. I’m gonna have Systems Unlimited in Bellevue install mine. They may be able to help you too.
i have always used escort. but with the redline i am a little disappointed. i still can't get the posted speed to work, and it still will not update in the car over wifi. it does connect to my wifi, and my phone app says it is connected, but on the wifi settings, it is showing as a * and doesn't show what id hooked up.
I’m looking for a comparison between my current Max 360c and the “newer” Redline 360c. Being a latest and greatest but I’m trying to determine or get advice on if there is a significant enough difference in performance between the two. If Vortex or anyone else can give me some advice I would appreciate it. Both units are so new I just haven’t had any luck finding anyone that’s compared the two.
www.vortexradar.com/2020/07/escort-redline-360c-max-3-testing/ ;)
Thanks for the great info! I want to buy one and you really help out letting us know what as t features they have or don't have! I want the we features of the 360C.
Hey man. Any chance at all you know how long this will be back ordered for??
No idea. I’ve heard availability by the end of the month, but I don’t know if that’s still a realistic target.
Vortex Radar thanks man
I think it’s wise to wait until we see how Theia performs before spending that kind of coin on the Redline 360C.
Yeah I think a lot of people are in the same boat.
So after 7 months. Is it worth to get the Redline360c?
Imo V1 by a long way. The redline is full of issues as was the first gen model , it probably sleeps like the original redline. Corporate KPI’s are more important than the customer. Rushed release as usual. Seriously what were they thinking?? Dumb America?? It’s not even close to head and shoulders above the competition, wait a few months it’ll be discounted you can guarantee it. Better still do yourself A favour and do not waste your money on a throwaway detector. $750 omg natural selection at its best!!
Thanks for the none biased reviews. Keep it up!!
I will buy a Redline 360c if it tests out better than the Radenso Theia. Other than that, I feel that a Uniden R7 or a V1Gen2 is a better value.
I love this guy. So thorough.
Hey man which one would choose redline 360c or uniden r7
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The fact that there were so many bugs released, and then patched so quickly, worrys me. Indicates Escort didn't really bother to test or finish their work. And at that price, it should also make a better cup of coffee.
I love my original redline but have been very disappointed in Escorts customer service and the newer products lying about what they can do and im waiting for Thiea
Hey man, any chance you could do a settings tutorial for the RL 360c?? Much appreciated.
Sure, here ya go: www.vortexradar.com/2020/07/how-to-setup-escort-redline-360c-radar-detector/
Vortex Radar awesome. Thank you!!
For $750 dollars it should have an antitheft feature.. Most radars have GPS and Bluetooth and I think this would be a great, especially now with how much these are costing.
So you want them to be able to track your location, just in case? You trust them with this information until you need it? That would be the end of the company
The R7 and V1 G2 looks much nicer, than the 360c. If it matters to you. lol
I'll stick with my R7. I live in a rural state where false alerts and stealth isn't an issue for me, nor do I want to have to use my phone and an app. While I'm sure for some the redline will be better suited for them, it's just not worth twice the price to me compared to the R7.
That makes total sense!
I spent $700 for max360c So what do you think which one better the max 360 C or the red line? because I just did the order today so I can cancel if it’s not good.
thank you!
I’d go for the Redline 360c between the two for sure. bit.ly/2YaCNiW
@@VortexRadar thank Thank so much!!
I currently have a hardwired escort max will the power cord still work for the redline 360c or will i have to run a new wire.
Same power cord 👍
I'm a commercial driver and it is illegal for us to have a radar detector, and so if the escort redline 360c is undetectable then just by that I think is worth to pay the price.