Some days we beat the dragon, some days the dragon beats us. Some days your handed a gift. I've seen "The missing fuse" a few times on City Fleet Vehicles in the past. Good video. Thanks.
I diagnosed a Camry no start last year around Halloween with THREE missing fuses. Customer asked where they went. I told him it must have been a ghost burglar 🤣
215/55/16 = Diameter 25.3" Width 8.5" Sidewall 4.7" Circum. 79.5" Revs/Mile 797 205/55/16 = Diameter 24.9" Width 8.1" Sidewall 4.4" Circum. 78.1" Revs/Mile 811 So you can see it's only a difference of 0.4 inches and 14 Revs per mile. So that's a pretty sensitive system. I wonder what the tolerance is. Maybe 5 revs at the most. (I just searched "tire diameter calculator" to get these numbers.)
That was still an interesting find on all the issues , the fact that something as simple as the fuse affects other systems , as well it’s good to know that the honda doesn’t use tpms sensors but uses the tires to calculate the pressure’s. As well as the mismatch tires are picked up by the sensors and states mismatched tire. All in all a very informative video..thanks for sharing.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great work😍 Honda's are very interesting, I Love these Civic's & had a chance to work a lot on'em, there's a very interesting thing about'em, all accessories are ground side switched & once I was mislead by this, the ignition switch (push start) was not turning on, I was checking fuses & the connectors inside the fuse box & surprisingly when provided a ground with a testlight the windshield washer came on & some other stuff as well interesting😇 Thanks for sharing BRO, please do more of these when you've a chance, Stay Safe😍
Wow.. I've never heard of either of these things. I've never heard of using wheel speed to calculate tire pressure.. and I've never seen a sensor voltage pulled from a horn circuit and not be labeled. Strange. It's like they are trying to integrate everything they can in weird ways, to cut corners and save money. Definitely learned something from this one.
LIN Local Interconnect Network, is a low cost single wire bus, which references ground. The LIN protocol is very simple and is easily supported in programmable logic or as part of a dedicated IC sensor. This is helpful because you don't have to qualify or have a way to modify code in the slave nodes (in this case the alternator and the battery sensor). For the automotive fuses there are a lot of china clones that are have the wrong fuse element for the rating. This means as a technician you need to work with a reputable distributor (Waytek as just one example) and only purchase OEM specified fuses. I use LittleFuse and Eaton-Bussmann. So, who pulled the fuse? and for what reason?
I saw on another channel showing the think diag pro showing the monitors and which ones had and had not completed not sure how he got to that spot but he showed on you tube
I have a 2018 civic si ..wen I pop the battery terminals off.. All the dash lights come on..I have to erase with my (THINK PRO SCAN TOOL ) I LOVE THIS BI DIRECTIONAL TOOL..
Same case on me whit a transit. From other shop come whit newmotor wiper but not working. They said no power to the motor probably wire damadge. In fact was a missing fuse.😅
Cool ! I’m always learning from you ! Thanks for sharing your experience and skill ! Can you please tell me what is your favourite vehicle technical data circuit wiring diagram resource ? AllData , Mitchells, AutoEnginuity , etc ?
Easy one, Jake! I would imagine someone removed the fuse because of a horn issue (was the horn getting stuck on?). Picky steering alignment procedure. I'm surprised to see a single tire replaced - on this side of the pond, you have to replace them in pairs (no shop will replace a single tire).
The difference in revs per mile between a new tire and a worn out tire is negligible, at least for passenger car and light truck tires. So should be no issue with a mixture of worn and new tires for indirect TPMS. The difference in revs per mile between tire brands is usually not enough to cause issues for the indirect TPMS as long as the tires are the same size; it is possible to happen but it is rare.
215/55/16 = Diameter 25.3" Width 8.5" Sidewall 4.7" Circum. 79.5" Revs/Mile 797 205/55/16 = Diameter 24.9" Width 8.1" Sidewall 4.4" Circum. 78.1" Revs/Mile 811 So you can see it's only a difference of 0.4 inches and 14 Revs per mile. So that's a pretty sensitive system. I wonder what the tolerance is. Maybe 5 revs at the most. (I just searched "tire diameter calculator" to get these numbers.)
@@calholli yes, for sure! It has to be quite sensitive to pick up on a tire that is the correct size but running underinflated (by comparing all the wheel speed sensors to each other and looking for the outlier, similar to what ABS does). It’s kind of clever but also less direct than actual tire pressure sensors; it can be misled…. But you don’t have to program sensors or have issues with dead batteries in the sensors.
215/55/16 = Diameter 25.3" Width 8.5" Sidewall 4.7" Circum. 79.5" Revs/Mile 797 205/55/16 = Diameter 24.9" Width 8.1" Sidewall 4.4" Circum. 78.1" Revs/Mile 811 So you can see it's only a difference of 0.4 inches and 14 Revs per mile. So that's a pretty sensitive system. I wonder what the tolerance is. Maybe 5 revs at the most. (I just searched "tire diameter calculator" to get these numbers.)
How does that saying go? Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good? Regardless, it's nice to get a job like that once in awhile instead of getting your ass handed to you every time.
Great, easy diagnosis Jake. For anyone wondering, he is definitely entitled to charge the customer, even if it was just a missing fuse.
Some days we beat the dragon, some days the dragon beats us.
Some days your handed a gift.
I've seen "The missing fuse" a few times on City Fleet Vehicles in the past.
Good video. Thanks.
I diagnosed a Camry no start last year around Halloween with THREE missing fuses. Customer asked where they went. I told him it must have been a ghost burglar 🤣
@@autodiagyt Got some fuse gremlins running around.
215/55/16 =
Diameter 25.3"
Width 8.5"
Sidewall 4.7"
Circum. 79.5"
Revs/Mile 797
205/55/16 =
Diameter 24.9"
Width 8.1"
Sidewall 4.4"
Circum. 78.1"
Revs/Mile 811
So you can see it's only a difference of 0.4 inches and 14 Revs per mile.
So that's a pretty sensitive system. I wonder what the tolerance is. Maybe 5 revs at the most.
(I just searched "tire diameter calculator" to get these numbers.)
@@autodiagyt Blows my mind too, especially when customer says "you worked on my car last time"...well yeah, a MONTH ago haha
The car alarm went off, and a technician pulled the horn fuse
That was still an interesting find on all the issues , the fact that something as simple as the fuse affects other systems , as well it’s good to know that the honda doesn’t use tpms sensors but uses the tires to calculate the pressure’s. As well as the mismatch tires are picked up by the sensors and states mismatched tire. All in all a very informative video..thanks for sharing.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great work😍
Honda's are very interesting, I Love these Civic's & had a chance to work a lot on'em, there's a very interesting thing about'em, all accessories are ground side switched & once I was mislead by this, the ignition switch (push start) was not turning on, I was checking fuses & the connectors inside the fuse box & surprisingly when provided a ground with a testlight the windshield washer came on & some other stuff as well interesting😇
Thanks for sharing BRO, please do more of these when you've a chance, Stay Safe😍
Jake, you took me by surprise finding the missing fuse. I guess everyone deserves an easy one once in a while. Thanks for Sharing! 🙃🙂
@@autodiagyt Glad you did. Like seeing what you're up to. 🙂
Wow.. I've never heard of either of these things. I've never heard of using wheel speed to calculate tire pressure.. and I've never seen a sensor voltage pulled from a horn circuit and not be labeled. Strange. It's like they are trying to integrate everything they can in weird ways, to cut corners and save money. Definitely learned something from this one.
my skoda octavia 3 use wheel speed sensor for that
no presure sensors in tyres
Your typical Honda, nothing unusual here.
Nice video and great trouble shooting. I guess having access to wiring diagrams is a must.
The missing fuse mystery strikes again! Don't know who's pulling them out, but they're keeping me in buisness.😂
same here , missing fuse , disconnected modules from bodyshop
Jake you never know in today’s automotive world you could be seeing it again. 👍
LIN Local Interconnect Network, is a low cost single wire bus, which references ground. The LIN protocol is very simple and is easily supported in programmable logic or as part of a dedicated IC sensor. This is helpful because you don't have to qualify or have a way to modify code in the slave nodes (in this case the alternator and the battery sensor).
For the automotive fuses there are a lot of china clones that are have the wrong fuse element for the rating. This means as a technician you need to work with a reputable distributor (Waytek as just one example) and only purchase OEM specified fuses. I use LittleFuse and Eaton-Bussmann.
So, who pulled the fuse? and for what reason?
I saw on another channel showing the think diag pro showing the monitors and which ones had and had not completed not sure how he got to that spot but he showed on you tube
Trying to locate good stackable test leads like you are using on your multimeter with the bulb.Thanks
Thank you
there so many (new videos)@@autodiagyt
I have a 2018 civic si ..wen I pop the battery terminals off.. All the dash lights come on..I have to erase with my
(THINK PRO SCAN TOOL ) I LOVE THIS BI DIRECTIONAL TOOL..
Same case on me whit a transit. From other shop come whit newmotor wiper but not working. They said no power to the motor probably wire damadge. In fact was a missing fuse.😅
My 2020 honda accord had blown horn fuse..so what's the deal with the horn fuse?? And what's blowing them.???? Honda problem???
Thank you for your time sir
What the hell has the horn to do with turn it on? How you didn't have a horn fuse missing?
could be wrong but calibration said turn 180 and you went 90
My 2018 Honda Civic has a charging system message an also starts but immediately cuts right off
Cool ! I’m always learning from you ! Thanks for sharing your experience and skill ! Can you please tell me what is your favourite vehicle technical data circuit wiring diagram resource ? AllData , Mitchells, AutoEnginuity , etc ?
Thanks for the extra help / insight !
Easy one, Jake! I would imagine someone removed the fuse because of a horn issue (was the horn getting stuck on?). Picky steering alignment procedure. I'm surprised to see a single tire replaced - on this side of the pond, you have to replace them in pairs (no shop will replace a single tire).
@@autodiagyt OK. So, just random fuse pulling 🙂
Finally a car manufactuer made something easy
Crazy that the horn fuse would disable the vehicle. Crazy I get alarm but just a 10amp fuse for the horn 🤷♂️
Awesome 👍
Really enjoy watching your videos. What type of terminal test leads do you recommend?
The difference in revs per mile between a new tire and a worn out tire is negligible, at least for passenger car and light truck tires. So should be no issue with a mixture of worn and new tires for indirect TPMS. The difference in revs per mile between tire brands is usually not enough to cause issues for the indirect TPMS as long as the tires are the same size; it is possible to happen but it is rare.
215/55/16 =
Diameter 25.3"
Width 8.5"
Sidewall 4.7"
Circum. 79.5"
Revs/Mile 797
205/55/16 =
Diameter 24.9"
Width 8.1"
Sidewall 4.4"
Circum. 78.1"
Revs/Mile 811
So you can see it's only a difference of 0.4 inches and 14 Revs per mile.
So that's a pretty sensitive system. I wonder what the tolerance is. Maybe 5 revs at the most.
(I just searched "tire diameter calculator" to get these numbers.)
@@calholli yes, for sure! It has to be quite sensitive to pick up on a tire that is the correct size but running underinflated (by comparing all the wheel speed sensors to each other and looking for the outlier, similar to what ABS does). It’s kind of clever but also less direct than actual tire pressure sensors; it can be misled…. But you don’t have to program sensors or have issues with dead batteries in the sensors.
I still liked it!!
215/55/16 =
Diameter 25.3"
Width 8.5"
Sidewall 4.7"
Circum. 79.5"
Revs/Mile 797
205/55/16 =
Diameter 24.9"
Width 8.1"
Sidewall 4.4"
Circum. 78.1"
Revs/Mile 811
So you can see it's only a difference of 0.4 inches and 14 Revs per mile.
So that's a pretty sensitive system. I wonder what the tolerance is. Maybe 5 revs at the most.
(I just searched "tire diameter calculator" to get these numbers.)
Do these 10th generation Hondas stay at 12.2v when idling and driving?
I honestly can't remember this vehicle but I would think 12.8 and above. Once you drop below that current is coming out of the battery.
mine is 14.4v when the engine is running , 12.6v with engine off
Things that make you go hmmm!
Sounds like somebody’s messing with them could be the oil change place or some one wanted to borrow the car
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Grasias
I wonder, who and why somebody would remove a hornfuse, looks like a misteryshopper,that is testing your skills and honesty 🤔
How does that saying go? Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good? Regardless, it's nice to get a job like that once in awhile instead of getting your ass handed to you every time.
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