Pure comedic genius! Absolutely BRILLIANT! Really had me going. I never heard of cooking down Borax, but was following along expectingly, thinking I was going to need to order a new stone mortar and pestle.
Reminds me of my granpa's carp recipe. Put the fish on a cedar plank and cook in the oven at 425 for 35 minutes. Take it out, throw the carp away and eat the board
We have a similar recipe for Galahs and Cockatoos - it involves boiling the bird with a rock until the rock is soft, then tossing the bird and eating the rock.
Dude, this is now one of my favorite videos. I was carefully watching all along and thinking to myself "man, I've never had to go through all of this" and then we got to the end and I kinda cheered. Keep up.tbe good work!
I didn’t even see it coming. Just starting to look at casting and didn’t know anything about it lol if videos are like this might have to keep watching
I have to tell you that is the best information you can get at a cooking down borax I have ever seen. Here in Canada I'm going to be letting all the other blacksmith know to watch your video. And repeat step by step what you have done.
Loved that. I'm a beginner so i really took the bait. "Wtf... do i have to cook the borax?, i have totally missed this..." Laughed so hard at the end. Your channel is great!!!
Rofl that ending tho! I was sitting like "why the hell would you do that?" And then....ROFL. Ty Trent, these are the kinds of videos I started following your channel for!
Mate I've just started silver casting and my 1st cast came out black and burnt and I've just found out about borax and you're video is the most informative on the Internet thank you
LOL!! Same exact thing my grandpa did right down to throwing the pan out of the shop!! LOL!!! Lord that brought back some memories! Love your channel young man, you are an accomplished smith, A thing to be proud of in this day and age. Keep up the good work, and the sharing of the craft to those who wish to learn. Stay safe, and God bless.
BAHAHAHA. that was perfect! i was thinking to my self the whole time why go through all hat it works fine as is... then I realized i wasn't using my dominant hand to deal with the problem of the arm chair blacksmiths! thank you for the fun video!
Cook it for hours than throw it like a angry mad man, learned something new ! Everyday we do ! Very good video Sir"! & You have a great sense of humor"! Thank you for the education Sir"! Respectfully, / Sincerely. Signed: Paul~
Laying down truth fast and hard. I think people try to do stuff like cooking borax because they want some trick to make their welds better, when what they need is practise.
I did this process yesterday after reading about it. I made it to the crushing of the glass borax. No way it's worth the time it takes. Using unaltered borax works just fine. Make sure your metal is clean and tight. Good video!
Cooking with Tofu is fine. But you have to let it dry out long enough so it will burn but you cant use pots because the weight will smash out your fire.
Love this...I am not a blacksmith but, I do use borax flux to solder silver jewelry. The bubbling of the borax can be annoying but, deal with it. If your solder bits move put them back in place with a pick and get on with your soldering. Sooner or later ya may even learn how to slowly heat the work piece to keep the solder from jumping.
I love it! I had a box of borax sat out in the rain overnight...whoops. I cooked it a little till it dried on the forge. then left it in the rain again overnight. I needed to do some welds so i spooned the wet goopy watered down borax on the hot steel. welds took just fine. if the borax is bubbling and falling off its probably too much borax and not enough heat.
Satyrsen here's what Wikipedia says (pretty sure you s/b able to get sand or salt in the EU): The oldest flux used for forge welding was fine silica sand. The iron or steel would be heated in a reducing environment within the coals of the forge. Devoid of oxygen, the metal forms a layer of iron-oxide called wustite on its surface. When the metal is hot enough, but below the welding temperature, the smith sprinkles some sand onto the metal. The silicon in the sand reacts with the wustite to form fayalite, which melts just below the welding temperature. This produced a very effective flux which helped to make a strong weld.[31] Early examples of flux used different combinations and various amounts of ironfillings, borax, sal ammoniac, balsam of copaiba, cyanide of potash, and soda phosphate. The 1920 edition of Scientific American book of facts and formulae indicates a frequently offered trade secret as using copperas, saltpeter, common salt, black oxideof manganese, prussiate of potash, and "nice welding sand" (silicate).
My understanding is that Epsom Salts (MgSo4 * 7H2O) can be used as an effective flux. It is a Magnesium Salt, which bonds fairly well with the Iron Oxides. However care must be taken for proper ventilation as it forms sulfur dioxide and trioxide when heated to 1000 C. The Sulfurous acid gas also keeps scale from forming by denying Oxygen entry through the catalyst "hotzone" around the deteriorating salt. (SO2 and SO3 react instantly at those temps with all available O2 and H2O forming more SO3, and, H2SO4, Sulfuric Acid.) A 50/50 mixture with white silica sand seems to work.
Guys, this is some great Information already! There is a blacksmith on youtube using sand as flux (TechnicusJoe) but it does not seem to be verry beginner friendly to me... Trent, I would really like to see you try the sand and or other options and tell us what you think of it aswell!
Satyrsen what are you talking about? Go on ebay and search "borax" or search it's chemical name "sodium tetraborate ". Their is nothing stopping you from buying borax.....maybe it's down to the weight of it and it not being practical to ship it in maybe.....not sure? I am in the UK and there are 100s of people selling it. If you really are struggling to get it, search it's chemical name, I guarantee that you will find a seller, if not hit me back, I will hook you up ;-)
Yukyukyuk! My grandfather was a blacksmith during the depression. He’s been dead since 1971 and we scattered his ashes on the Sandia Mountains east of Albuquerque, NM. I started watching this I swear I heard him cussing, lol. “Ay CARAMBA! What is wrong with that boy?” We never cooked borax down anywhere but on hot steel bar!
The procedure for snorting borax is complicated, and must be followed to the letter. First, take a piece of steel, hammer it to shape, harden it, and turn it into martensite. Then sharpen it to a razor's edge. Next, polish another sheet of steel until you can see your face in it. Spread the borax on the steel sheet, then use the shaped steel to form it into lines. Cut a piece of copper tubing to size, and snort through it. If you have no access to metal stock, a similar effect can be achieved with a mirror and a razor blade.
spoplehughes coffee grinder might break. Never tried to cook down borax but I’d imagine it’s pretty hard. Couple good chunks in your average coffee grinder aren’t gonna do it any favors. 😹
I’m brand new to this, I’m watching with rapt attention, taking notes, adding to my playlist, and WHAMMO. Got me. Hook..line..AND sinker. Well-played my friend, well-played.
I am not a blacksmith, nor any type of specialist. I LOVE viewing How To videos! I use Borax at home for loots if things: laundry or mix with sugar too kill ants and roaches because I live in the South. Great video ! I am a fan, and have subcribed. I love your personal touch!
That, sir, was the best and most unexpected climax I've ever seen, dare I say even rivaling the tremendous climaxes of great films such as The Departed, The Village, and Inception. Bravo!
I am,and always have been, proud of my ability as a communicator,and being capable of giving clear ,precise and accurate instructions to a wide variety of people.But this video encapsulates all I ever learned all my life about getting a message across.Not only that but the message is imprinted forever in a few minutes flat!! "DO NOT BLOODYWELL COOK THE SODDING BORAX, GOT IT???"" Well done my son.Message received and understood.Never even heard of bloody borax until now.Wonder if it would be useful when trying to join metal strips for making mokume gane.? Anyone got any idea ?
I wasn't expecting you to chuck the pan out the window lol i normally use Iron Mountain flux, but due to price I found that borax is cheaper and believe it or not, gets down in the joint better, rather than just sitting on top of the scarf area, which inevitably would leave a seam that would need tending later.
You are absolutely hilarious.. LOVE this video, man. I had a good chuckle going from the snorting of the borax, right through to the end.. when you threw that pot outside I busted out laughing. Hahaha great video.
That was some funny shit! At the start, I was thinking "Ok, maybe--just maybe I've been doing it wrong all this time..." Just so you know, I snotted my beer out my nose when the pot flew. LMAO!
about two thirds into this id I started thinking that hydrated borax would probably suit me just fine, so when you tossed it out and said "don't f'n worry about it!!" i couldn't help but laugh and give a big thumbs up
I was actualy looking for a video of borax becomming anhydrous (or boild down as you put it) and not only did this video fit the bill i also did not see the end coming at all and it made me actually laught. Great video
I just laughed so hard I had two tears in my eyes, that was just too funny. I've never heard of cooking down borax either like that but I have now oh my god...
Good point. You can buy anhydrous borax. It’s costs a bit more, but considering how much is used, it’s not really expensive. Just keep the container closed when not in use.
Getting my gas forge set up over the weekend to try my hand at welding up some Damascus. Good to know I don't need to waste my time cooking down borax to make it work for fluxing.
I love how you are able to combine great information and humor in your videos.
That's what I think that makes viewers want to watch more of your RUclips!
Yup !!! I loved the Cocaine borax. 3:05 is Borax crack.
Pure comedic genius! Absolutely BRILLIANT! Really had me going. I never heard of cooking down Borax, but was following along expectingly, thinking I was going to need to order a new stone mortar and pestle.
>_
Me too 😂😂 then I think I spit coffee thru my nose laughing
Reminds me of my granpa's carp recipe. Put the fish on a cedar plank and cook in the oven at 425 for 35 minutes. Take it out, throw the carp away and eat the board
Lol
Damn I wanna meet him
kenneth perry haha
We have a similar recipe for Galahs and Cockatoos - it involves boiling the bird with a rock until the rock is soft, then tossing the bird and eating the rock.
I heard the same, only put the fish in tinfoil with cow guacamole
I like this guy's sense of humor - not to mention the ultra informative lesson. Subscription earned.
I think the problem is that the pot you used to cook the borax in has bad rebound
Dunno, it bounced off that damn tree pretty well
That's a win comment if I ever saw one though.
@@purgatoryironworksI hope the tree is ok☹.
I SWEAR, ... I NEVER, .... heard of boiling down borax, ... until now.
tanglediver me neither, Lol! Apparently wasn't missin' nuthin'! 😄
Literally bought a Box to try my hand at forge welding this week, came upon this vid by chance....subbed. Love it man don't stop.
Thanks!
Turn on Closed Captions and go to 1:42
😂😂😂 that's hilarious!!!
Lollll. And a spoonful of hope too.
BWHAHAHAAHA!
LMFAO Hilarious! Love that he started with a spoonful of hope XD
Invariably, indeed!
Dude, this is now one of my favorite videos. I was carefully watching all along and thinking to myself "man, I've never had to go through all of this" and then we got to the end and I kinda cheered. Keep up.tbe good work!
Appreciate you watching!
When you threw the pan out the window... that got me to subscribe.
Thanks for making milk come out of my nose!! That was great!
Milk, spaghetti noodles are even better!
.me too. And I wasn't even drinking milk!
@@davearonow65 Heck my whole ham sandwich got thru mah node.
That is the most common sense, plain speaking and direct thing I have seen on here. Thank you for your sage words of wisdom.
ive been watching some of your videos recently but this really secured my subscription. i got a real laugh out of this one. keep it up
Sooooo funny when you threw the pot out of the window. Your the best . Keep up the good work. Love the videos
I didn’t even see it coming. Just starting to look at casting and didn’t know anything about it lol if videos are like this might have to keep watching
Dude! You just gained another fan
Yep, Ya totally got me .. I was like whoa.. I didnt know you had to do that ...! then BANG out the window.. Thankyou for the lesson.
Ah ya got me on that one! I thought you had gone off the deep end! Keep up the great work!
This is by far the best method I have ever seen for cooking down borax.
There is a company in Alabama that sells the cooked down Borax. I have seen other blacksmiths pledge by it. I really enjoy your method of tossing it!
I stick those silica gel packs in the can.
I have to tell you that is the best information you can get at a cooking down borax I have ever seen. Here in Canada I'm going to be letting all the other blacksmith know to watch your video. And repeat step by step what you have done.
Or just buy anhydrous borax (instead of the grocery store laundry stuff).
If it works why spend money on more expensive stuff?
@@Grauenwolf lol
Loved that.
I'm a beginner so i really took the bait. "Wtf... do i have to cook the borax?, i have totally missed this..."
Laughed so hard at the end. Your channel is great!!!
I was watching and thinking "wonder what he's going to do with it" - made me chuckle. You get yourself a subscribe sir, well played
This has to be one of the more entertaining, and informative videos bout borax I've looked up all day.
Rofl that ending tho! I was sitting like "why the hell would you do that?" And then....ROFL. Ty Trent, these are the kinds of videos I started following your channel for!
Mate I've just started silver casting and my 1st cast came out black and burnt and I've just found out about borax and you're video is the most informative on the Internet thank you
LOL!! Same exact thing my grandpa did right down to throwing the pan out of the shop!!
LOL!!! Lord that brought back some memories!
Love your channel young man, you are an accomplished smith, A thing to be proud of in this day and age.
Keep up the good work, and the sharing of the craft to those who wish to learn.
Stay safe, and God bless.
It's so refreshing to cut through the B.S. Thank you for sharing. Have a blessed day.
BAHAHAHA. that was perfect! i was thinking to my self the whole time why go through all hat it works fine as is... then I realized i wasn't using my dominant hand to deal with the problem of the arm chair blacksmiths!
thank you for the fun video!
Thank you I’ve been looking for this answer 😊
Hahahaha i was not expecting that!! Freaking hilarious ! Great video.
Cook it for hours than throw it like a angry mad man, learned something new ! Everyday we do ! Very good video Sir"! & You have a great sense of humor"! Thank you for the education Sir"!
Respectfully, / Sincerely.
Signed:
Paul~
Thanks for dropping by
Laying down truth fast and hard. I think people try to do stuff like cooking borax because they want some trick to make their welds better, when what they need is practise.
Sean St. exactly! Then when their welds fail, they say "oh I didn't cook it long enough"
I did this process yesterday after reading about it. I made it to the crushing of the glass borax. No way it's worth the time it takes. Using unaltered borax works just fine. Make sure your metal is clean and tight. Good video!
laughed so hard I drop a hammer on my foot. Now I'm keep laughing through tears )))
This litteraly JUST made me a fan for life Bro!
LMAO, just like cooking tofu. Throw it in the trash and put a piece of meat on the grill.
Cooking with Tofu is fine. But you have to let it dry out long enough so it will burn but you cant use pots because the weight will smash out your fire.
Best thing to do with Tofu is add it to your compost pile.
You gotta deep fry that shit man. What a waste.
Feed tofu to the pigs then put pig in the smoker
I have never seen this dude before...
Now I have and now I am subbed
Love this vid
I really need to know, how much rebound does that scrap pile have with a pot of anhydrous borax?
Asking for a friend...
Love this...I am not a blacksmith but, I do use borax flux to solder silver jewelry. The bubbling of the borax can be annoying but, deal with it. If your solder bits move put them back in place with a pick and get on with your soldering. Sooner or later ya may even learn how to slowly heat the work piece to keep the solder from jumping.
I'm rolling on the floor laughing. Good video.
Finally I learn something on youtube!!! Thanks a bunch!
Anytime!
that made me laugh! I was questioning the title then "just throw it all out in the scrap pile!!!"
I love it! I had a box of borax sat out in the rain overnight...whoops. I cooked it a little till it dried on the forge. then left it in the rain again overnight. I needed to do some welds so i spooned the wet goopy watered down borax on the hot steel. welds took just fine. if the borax is bubbling and falling off its probably too much borax and not enough heat.
Sweet,I thought you were crazy at first. Good one 🖒
I clicked on this video out of disbelief "cook down your Borax!" I was waiting for reality to kick in the whole time I was watching this! Great video!
Love it man! lol!!!!! keep up the great work sir!
Thanks for being the guy who doesn't beat around the bush :) it'll keep me watching.
Great Video!
I live in Germany and since one can no longer buy borax in the EU I was wondering if there is a good alternative to it.
Satyrsen here's what Wikipedia says (pretty sure you s/b able to get sand or salt in the EU):
The oldest flux used for forge welding was fine silica sand. The iron or steel would be heated in a reducing environment within the coals of the forge. Devoid of oxygen, the metal forms a layer of iron-oxide called wustite on its surface. When the metal is hot enough, but below the welding temperature, the smith sprinkles some sand onto the metal. The silicon in the sand reacts with the wustite to form fayalite, which melts just below the welding temperature. This produced a very effective flux which helped to make a strong weld.[31]
Early examples of flux used different combinations and various amounts of ironfillings, borax, sal ammoniac, balsam of copaiba, cyanide of potash, and soda phosphate. The 1920 edition of Scientific American book of facts and formulae indicates a frequently offered trade secret as using copperas, saltpeter, common salt, black oxideof manganese, prussiate of potash, and "nice welding sand" (silicate).
So hey Trent, this guy raises a good question: can you do a vid making Damascus WITHOUT borax, using any of the above listed materials as flux?
My understanding is that Epsom Salts (MgSo4 * 7H2O) can be used as an effective flux. It is a Magnesium Salt, which bonds fairly well with the Iron Oxides. However care must be taken for proper ventilation as it forms sulfur dioxide and trioxide when heated to 1000 C. The Sulfurous acid gas also keeps scale from forming by denying Oxygen entry through the catalyst "hotzone" around the deteriorating salt. (SO2 and SO3 react instantly at those temps with all available O2 and H2O forming more SO3, and, H2SO4, Sulfuric Acid.) A 50/50 mixture with white silica sand seems to work.
Guys, this is some great Information already!
There is a blacksmith on youtube using sand as flux (TechnicusJoe) but it does not seem to be verry beginner friendly to me...
Trent, I would really like to see you try the sand and or other options and tell us what you think of it aswell!
Satyrsen what are you talking about? Go on ebay and search "borax" or search it's chemical name "sodium tetraborate ". Their is nothing stopping you from buying borax.....maybe it's down to the weight of it and it not being practical to ship it in maybe.....not sure? I am in the UK and there are 100s of people selling it. If you really are struggling to get it, search it's chemical name, I guarantee that you will find a seller, if not hit me back, I will hook you up ;-)
Man, you had me all the way to the end, AWESOME!
That my friend was awesome.
Yukyukyuk! My grandfather was a blacksmith during the depression. He’s been dead since 1971 and we scattered his ashes on the Sandia Mountains east of Albuquerque, NM. I started watching this I swear I heard him cussing, lol. “Ay CARAMBA! What is wrong with that boy?” We never cooked borax down anywhere but on hot steel bar!
did not see that coming . i almost spit out my pizza ,holy crap warn a guy will ya.
This guy makes it very easy to understand.....
even with some fun thrown in. ( from Australia)
Now that's funny right there! I don't care who you are!
Great video. Nothing better than a big o' blacksmith with a sense of humor.
There is no reason to dislike this video lol
Felipe Alvarez I’d imagine the idiots cooking down their borax think differently.
Great ending. Thank you. As a newbie blacksmith, you had me thinking I was going to have to do so much extra work.
This one made me subscribe. What a hoot!
bluegrassengineer lol Me too! I subscribed just before I saw your comment. :-)
I absolutely love that you took the time to make the video for us just to throw the pot out the window. Sir, I salute you.
LMBO! So snorting Borax gives one roid rage? Lol very informative though, thanks you...
You also end up with very clean sinuses.
Will M. I
What in the fork does that B stand for?
The procedure for snorting borax is complicated, and must be followed to the letter. First, take a piece of steel, hammer it to shape, harden it, and turn it into martensite. Then sharpen it to a razor's edge. Next, polish another sheet of steel until you can see your face in it. Spread the borax on the steel sheet, then use the shaped steel to form it into lines. Cut a piece of copper tubing to size, and snort through it. If you have no access to metal stock, a similar effect can be achieved with a mirror and a razor blade.
Bollocks
By far the best tutorial I have ever seen
mortar and pestle ? this is the 21st century ,stick it in a coffee grinder lol ..and then throw that away too
spoplehughes coffee grinder might break. Never tried to cook down borax but I’d imagine it’s pretty hard. Couple good chunks in your average coffee grinder aren’t gonna do it any favors. 😹
I’m brand new to this, I’m watching with rapt attention, taking notes, adding to my playlist, and WHAMMO. Got me. Hook..line..AND sinker. Well-played my friend, well-played.
You my friend... Are Greatness, thanks again! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That's funny!
Thank you.
Man I’ll be honest, you really had me going there. I was thinking “really I had no idea”. Amazing video!
LMAO......ya got me
I am not a blacksmith, nor any type of specialist. I LOVE viewing How To videos!
I use Borax at home for loots if things: laundry or mix with sugar too kill ants and roaches because I live in the South. Great video !
I am a fan, and have subcribed. I love your personal touch!
Thank you for the sub!
Lol, that's the high grade sheeit. These noobs can't take a bit of bubble in their borax
Best.Blacksmithing. Video. Ever! CBG approved.
Thanks!
Haha! That was funny
That, sir, was the best and most unexpected climax I've ever seen, dare I say even rivaling the tremendous climaxes of great films such as The Departed, The Village, and Inception. Bravo!
hahahaha very nice.
You really had me on that one, almost pissed myself when you threw the pot out the window. Love the videos.
Lol nough said
That's a new one for me, never seen anyone bother. Fun watching you suddenly chuck that pot.
You really solved my problem that i was not able to find anywhere answers thank you sir!
I am,and always have been, proud of my ability as a communicator,and being capable of giving clear ,precise and accurate instructions to a wide variety of people.But this video encapsulates all I ever learned all my life about getting a message across.Not only that but the message is imprinted forever in a few minutes flat!! "DO NOT BLOODYWELL COOK THE SODDING BORAX, GOT IT???"" Well done my son.Message received and understood.Never even heard of bloody borax until now.Wonder if it would be useful when trying to join metal strips for making mokume gane.? Anyone got any idea ?
I wasn't expecting you to chuck the pan out the window lol i normally use Iron Mountain flux, but due to price I found that borax is cheaper and believe it or not, gets down in the joint better, rather than just sitting on top of the scarf area, which inevitably would leave a seam that would need tending later.
You are absolutely hilarious.. LOVE this video, man. I had a good chuckle going from the snorting of the borax, right through to the end.. when you threw that pot outside I busted out laughing. Hahaha great video.
That was some funny shit! At the start, I was thinking "Ok, maybe--just maybe I've been doing it wrong all this time..." Just so you know, I snotted my beer out my nose when the pot flew. LMAO!
Hi. I have a full time blacksmith shop. Great video and job. Thank you
Great video, and one you will remember. That gives it value. Good "training" video!
Ps how much do I have to grind it down before I can snort it?
about two thirds into this id I started thinking that hydrated borax would probably suit me just fine, so when you tossed it out and said "don't f'n worry about it!!" i couldn't help but laugh and give a big thumbs up
I dont forge welding, blacksmithing or anything like that, but it got me curious there. Thanks for a nice video on the subject! Cheers from Brazil!
I was actualy looking for a video of borax becomming anhydrous (or boild down as you put it) and not only did this video fit the bill i also did not see the end coming at all and it made me actually laught. Great video
This is the first video I've watched from you man. It just made me subscribe. I love it! Ha ha haaaa!
I just laughed so hard I had two tears in my eyes, that was just too funny. I've never heard of cooking down borax either like that but I have now oh my god...
I subscribed over this video. I'm a fan of your content in general but this was amazingly funny.
Just saw this. Instant subscribe. Love the info/humor. Good job sir.
Good video and I appreciate you keeping it family friendly. Love the pot getting thrown out the window.
Subscribed!
Thank you!
There at the end... I thought you were channeling my late dad. Brought a fond chuckle to my heart. LOL Great lesson!
Good point. You can buy anhydrous borax. It’s costs a bit more, but considering how much is used, it’s not really expensive. Just keep the container closed when not in use.
Bout time someone said this. Well done, brother.
Very good, the amt water in borax isn't going to hurt the forge weld. Thanks
Getting my gas forge set up over the weekend to try my hand at welding up some Damascus. Good to know I don't need to waste my time cooking down borax to make it work for fluxing.
Man, I was really interested in your video, but never mind XD.
Never heard of cooking borax, but you explained it great, clear and entertaining.
Holy shit that was funny!
Did a lot of blacksmithing in my teens and have never heard of cooking borax, totally had me at the end, nice one ;)
Subbed.
Appreciated!
Oh man, this is my first visit to your channel and I was hanging on every word you said!🤣🤣👍
You have to watch me, Im tricky!