What Is GhostBSD Like? Is It For You?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Today we check out GhostBSD. It's user friendly based off of FreeBSD. We check it out with the Mate Desktop Environment and get a feel for what's the similar and what's different with Linux.
Website for GhostBSD: ghostbsd.org/
I've had it on a spare system for some years now and I love it. The Mate DE can easily be tweaked to look just like Mac inc. a global menu...
From what I've read:
-FreeBSD = do whatever the hell you want with it. Gaming desktop, server, data hoarding chad OS, an unhindered OS with no restrictions. You can easily get into trouble if you're careless (watch what you install and watch your credentials).
-OpenBSD = sysops didn't like the idea of regular joe users touching on server-eque OSs, so they use OpenBSD and HOPE regular Joe doesn't start making demands. You can still use it like FreeBSD, but certain functions are locked for your own protection.
-GhostBSD = one of several attempts to make an out of box experience (Win/Linux/Mac alternative). Relies on a software station for updates and software (don't touch the terminal or you could break things). I take it some people still aren't used to the terminal, so they added fisher price buttons to do it for you and it gets its software from its own service.
this is how you raise a collective knowledge base. tysm(!!!)~
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the *BSD users don't know what it's like - they're past those hurdles, it's hard to look back to people unsire if investing themselves into this will work or wreck (sunk cost blues for a wrecked project anyone?) non-*BSD users don't know what *BSD is and can't tell you other than "No it doesn't work. why? idk why. nothing works. No no no everything ever is impossible." in my experience it's that dichotomy when researching to answer "work or wreck?" --- all sources has been too high up or unqualified.
but here you are! (!!!!) documenting your initial journey, in a concise and cute way, and i adore you for this wholesome package! (i'm off to a tangent here, but the "loading" segment had an endearing premise and sketch to me; it was humor w/out demanding any attention off the viewer, which is nice in this day and age to keep up focus)
P.S
i'm writing this comment at 5mins into the video
I love your sped up montage moves.
Good banter!
1. It is pronounced Leenoos Toorvalds, not Lie-noos Torvalds.
2. BSD is a copy-rewrite of Berkley UNIX, which it was the project that Berkley was hired by the Military to make a standard UNIX for all the branches of the Military. Then one dev in the project decided to copy the file structure, the api, and rewrite the algorithms just so if they get sued they were not going to get in trouble and that is what happen, they got sued and the court declared BSD is not UNIX.
3. Linux is a copy and redesign of MINIX plus all the programs from gnu.
So BSD and Linux are both copies, BSD is a better copy but still a copy.
that music takes me back to 1992, PBS tv shows.
suggestion ,ould you show how to install your printer,I liked how you approached the intro ,as a "newbie"
keep up the god work
You use GhostBSD with as file system OpenZFS 2.0. I use FreeBSD on OpenZFS. The system is very reliable and has excellent support for OpenZFS, better than e.g Ubuntu. It is important to mention that OpenZFS is a developed by a combined project team of Linux and BSD developers. Of course OpenZFS is the best file system available on any OS, it has been released in 2005 by Sun Micro Systems.
FreeBSD still has perfect support for 32-bit systems.
I use FreeBSD for my backup server based on a 2003 Pentium 4 HT (1C2T; 3.0GHz); 1.5GB DDR (400MHz) and 1.21TB of leftover disks (2x IDE 3.5" + 2x SATA 2.5"). I started using FreeBSD 12.0 on June 2019 and now I'm on the brink of moving to 13.1.
I backup my Ubuntu/Ryzen desktop to my FreeBSD/Pentium backup server and that works more reliable and predictable than my other backup from Ubuntu/Ryzen to Ubuntu/i5. The Pentium backup runs predictable at 200Mbps and it is limited by a ~95% load on a CPU thread. The i5 backup is all over the place running sometimes at 900Mbps and at other times halting transfer for many seconds.
Strange things are happening in the Linux kernel/OpenZFS cooperation since the CPU frequency stays at 0.8GHz, while the CPU load as measured by Conky is 100% and that is also the time the transfer halts for seconds. Strangely during that same time the Linux task manager measures much lower CPU times.
As Linux user since 2005 I'm fed up by the negative attitude from the Linux kernel team towards OpenZFS and they are lying about the licenses excuse. More than 30 companies use OpenZFS in professional products (TrueNAS; Proxmox; Ubuntu; etc.) without being sued by Oracle.
That's because FreeBSD and Illumos have native ZFS support, Linux cannott because of licensing issues, i think it's something that even Stallman warned
I had GhostBSD on an old laptop earlier this year and found several display issues of windows randomly minimizing, mouse cursor being quite jumpy making it annoying to use. Interesting experience and sure in certain use cases it would be fine, but seemed a bit janky as a desktop platform to me. Even within your own video i saw some cursor jumpiness.
I had some issues setting it up in my virtual machines and attributed what you observed to my virtual machine setup. Thanks for your input!
Also of note, with the BSDs they build the whole base OS. So everything from configuration to system tools is consistent. Linux is basically the kernel & other user tools come from other places like GNU & so on. So that is the core difference.
There are some things that are different because the BSD team created the tools vs using the GNU tools. In the end you get similar results, if you need consistency then people tend to go for one of the BSDs. Especially the networking stack.
TCP/IP stack was written by BSD.
So you can thank them for the modern internet ;)
Great video! Jeremy by the way GhostBSD ZFS is OpenZFS like Linux.
Thanks for trying GhostBSD.
Thanks for the info! It's a really interesting project.
I switch between Linux and Ghost on and off, I tried to love Ghost but I can't mainly due to one reason, it was slow to download apps and updates. The software station in particular has very slow response, it pauses for a long while on every 2 characters I typed, still the same today as I post this, I install Octopkg instead for much better responses, but overall still slow compared with Linux I don't know why.
Good that it’s on top of FreeBSD and not a hard fork. Those forked distros always suffer and fall behind quickly.
Q: When to use BSD operating systems?
A: When you are looking for an operating system and you need to close the source code like Apple, Sony and Nintendo did :P
when you want something superior to Linux
Interesting
what bsd would you recommend for a newbie?
I did some research and Ghost BSD was what I chose because it was a user friendly distro...try it on a VM or USB and you might really like it
FreeBSD is the only general purpose open source BSD, and GhostBSD the only stable user-friendly derivative for now.
Before there was PC-BSD/TrueOS but sadly was discontinued.
ye, i will just stick to freebsd i guess. seems to be the most popular too
Is this os systemd free?
you have full and absolute control, no systemd here ;3
Yes.
bsd is unix
Hey there! Got turned on to your video thanks to vermaden's "Valuable News" blog post (vermaden.wordpress.com). Nice video for first time use of GhostBSD, let alone BSD overall. I've not tried GhostBSD since I'd normally use FreeBSD and install MATE on top of that. I mainly run OpenBSD myself, but I also do run NetBSD on my Raspberry Pi (NetBSD is the third major BSD from which OpenBSD forked from, and there's also DragonFly BSD which was forked from FreeBSD at version 4.x).
In comparison to Linux, they're more like cousins. As mentioned in previous comments, the BSDs are cohesively developed (kernel and userland are developed as a whole by each BSD project) as opposed to Linux which is put together as an OS using the Linux kernel and the GNU userland. Since the major BSDs aren't binary compatible with one another like Linux distributions are, they're usually referred to as BSD _flavors_, but GhostBSD can be called a distribution of FreeBSD since that's what it's based on.
As for typical usage, FreeBSD tends to be the Debian of the BSD world. OpenBSD focuses more on security in its configurations. NetBSD focuses more on portability to as much hardware as possible. Regardless, you can use them for whatever you want! I run OpenBSD and FreeBSD as desktop OSes along with my Linux desktops and enjoy all of them, and I used to run FreeBSD as a Samba server for file sharing at work.
BSD's history is very interesting. Wikipedia has a great rundown about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Berkeley_Software_Distribution