Outer Space Invader Pawn in the French | AI Leela Chess Zero vs Stockfish
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This is a round 63 game between AI Leela Chess Zero v20.2-32930 and Stockfish 190203. It was from the Season 14 Superfinal of the Top Chess Engine Championship 2019. Both Leela Chess Zero and Stockfish earned their way to this final 100 game match. The featured game's key middlegame decision, and its beautiful endgame play make it highly instructional. The opening was a French Defense, MacCutcheon, Janowski variation. The pop quiz in the middlegame position is likely to make even a most experienced player struggle some in determining the optimal path. Instead of counting pawns, let's see which pawns really count!
Specifications:
Current TCEC server
CPUs: 2 x Intel Xeon E5 2699 v4 @ 2.8 GHz
Cores: 44 physical
Motherboard: Supermicro X10DRL-i
RAM: 64 GB DDR4 ECC
SSD: Crucial CT250M500 240 GB
Chassis: Supermicro
OS: Windows Server 2012 R2
GPU Server
GPUs: 1 x 2080 ti + 1 x 2080
CPU: Quad Core i5 2600k
RAM: 16GB DDR3-2133
SSD:Samsung 840 Pro 256gb
PGN:
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Bb4 5. e5 h6 6. Be3 Ne4 7. Qg4 Kf8 8. a3 Bxc3+ 9. bxc3 Nxc3 10. Bd3 b6 11. h4 Nc6 12. h5 Bd7 13. Ne2 Nxe2 14. Qxe2 Ne7 15. a4 a5 16. f4 Nf5 17. Bf2 Nxd4 18. Bxd4 c5 19. Bf2 c4 20. Bg6 fxg6 21. hxg6 Kg8 22. c3 Qf8 23. Qg4 Qf5 24. Qxf5 exf5 25. Rb1 Rb8 26. g4 fxg4 27. e6 Bxa4 28. Kd2 Be8 29. f5 b5 30. Ra1 a4 31. Rhb1 Rc8 32. Bh4 g3 33. Ke3 Bc6 34. Bxg3 Kf8 35. Bd6+ Ke8 36. Rf1 Rd8 37. Bb4 d4+ 38. cxd4 Bd5 39. f6 Bxe6 40. f7+ Kd7 41. f8=R Kc6
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Blitzin via www.chessclub.com
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Hey Jerry! What chess interface do you use to show your games? Do u think that AIs will replace engines? Keep up the good work man! Look forward to seeing u as an IM soon.
Who are you Jerry
Hey jerry remember 4 years ago when you got Checkmated in 4 move
Pro tip : you can watch series on KaldroStream. I've been using them for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Genesis Carl definitely, have been using KaldroStream for since november myself =)
i live for whenever jerry calls chess pieces "clowns"
true true. I lost it when he said look at this clown on h8 xD
Seems like there's always a clown rook in every game leela wins.
Your ability to weave a narrative out of a chess game is unparalleled, Jerry. Watching your videos is like watching a story unfold. Amazing stuff!
DevN9007 exactly!
Every chess game tells a story.
Absolutely. Brings great clarity. I used to think chess was all about tactics. Jerry shows it is about strategy.
@@SuperYtc1 perhaps but not everyone can tell that story so lively.
I dont usually play chess but i keep watching. And Jerry is the 2nd best comentator after Yasser i came across so far
Hahaa, that Rook underpromotion. Poor Stockfish.
Maybe it is to minimize stale mate probability in later end-games?
i wonder whats the point in doing so. after all, leela is a nn, and one could say she learned trolling, which makes absolutely no sense, since it is a computer. thats not what i believe, but what else might be the point of underpromotion ( i know there is underpromotion that makes sense, like underpromoting to knight with check to weave a mating net ).
@Luca Burini But piece trades would be exactly what Leela wants in this situation
Trolling with one extra rook.
Underpromotion is usually to minimize processing power needed to calculate lines, I believe AlphaZero has done the same in a previous game with Stockfish
easily one of the best games of this superfinal.
thanks for covering it, jerry
really appreciate the content
You explain it so well. Best Chess Channel on RUclips. Heck! Depending on my mood Best Channel on RUclips Fullstop. Thankyou
There is a great takeaway hidden in this game which is useful even outside chess. Most of our decisions are based on rules, experience and perceptions made out of those experience. Even stockfish looks like victim of best practices based decisions. AI like leela zero thinks like a fresh mind. Found many examples where leela broke this barrier created in our mind.
You're so right! I slavishly looked at the pawns and said "keep the light square bishop". Silly me.
Haha the rook promotion made me laugh. Artificial consciousness
*confirmed*
Bg6 was actually on my mind before you mentioned to think about it, however, I never would have thought of those beautiful pawn sacrifice follow-ups to ensure the white pawn stays on g6 afterwards.
What a killer pawn, basically removing the king and a rook from play for the majority of the endgame!
Yesss, I love AI chess commentary.
I think it's pretty safe to say that Leela's and AlphaZero's favorite chess player is Mikhail Tal 😂
9:19
"It's a big pawn."
For you.
You type like a younger man, nothing held back. Admirable... but mistaken.
These titles are getting out of hand....
And I really like it:)))
Look at this clown in the corner!!
Glad to see you're putting out videos again, you were quiet for a little while. Hope it continues but if you don't have time I understand. just want to say again I love watching your videos because you explain things very well and I learn more from your videos than anywhere else.
F A W N P A W N
One thing I like about your breakdown is that it is not too fast, considers some of the alternate play lines in just enough detail, and points out what appear to be clear breaks in traditional approaches taken by humans, the chess engines, and the AI. This and other videos by others, clearly seem to show the advantages of position and freedom of action over pure material gains, assuming you can capitalize on the momentum and not make a blunder. Please keep posting. Thank you.
People who wonder why Leela underpromotes pawns sometimes, I think this is because the way Leela's neural network is trained. She gets "rewarded" when she wins a game, no matter how she did it or how long it takes. So, when Leela is in a winning position, she doesn't try to find the most efficient way to win - which sometimes gives birth to hilarious underpromotions!
How do you "reward" a neural network? Turn up the voltage?
Matthew Harrison no
Untrue. It is easier to calculate rook moves than queen moves, that's why she does it.
@@Matthew-he3jw 4 years later i just wanted you to know you made me giggle
Probably my favourite superfinal game, thanks for covering these games. Cheers.
I saw Bg6 but didn't really think that it would work. Leela showed us how. Very nice.
I was guessing Bg6 as well-- just because of the previous games of leela and her focus on that side. Not that I have any idea how or why its good xD
@@PhilNEvo yeah :D
For me it was also Bg6. but i had in mind to take both central pawns with my bishop
i saw so many leela games and the title of this video made it obvious that bg6 would be played :D
I saw it and thought it was a decent move, but I only gave it any consideration because I had to look for bishop sacs. I never would have found it otherwise. Besides I would have lost that pawn in a few moves. There's no way I would have found those resources to hang on to it.
The main advantage of a rook underpromotion is there are fewer possible moves for it to calculate per ply--LC0 can go a little deeper for the same amount of time spent thinking. If it sees that a rook is a win, there's no need to spend any additional time checking that a queen is also a win (could be a stalemate lurking somewhere.)
I'm a little surprised that the French Defense is still a thing. I've seen so many games now where Alpha Zero and Leela Chess just sacrifice whatever they want in order to completely smother black.
Maybe that's why it's called French. *wink wink WWI wink wink WWII*
@@valeriobertoncello1809
Hahahaha! Makes perfect sense now ;)
Well. you don't always play against engines so...
Yeah but that requires a consistently superhuman level of accuracy that only engines possess. A lot of these positions are knifes' edge and the advantage you get could collapse by playing the wrong move. So as long as humans can't calculate with that depth, precision, and confidence, it'll remain popular.
These games, while instructive, do not necessarily have any bearing over human chess. Rather, they illuminate a weakness in conventional engines in playing games that arise from the French.
Jerry , I'm really enjoying this series of chess videos !!!!
👍🏼😎 Thank you Ken
Great vid Jerry. I always welcome your enthusiasm and careful, well-paced explanations.
I remember watching this video when you posted it, and it took me a while to remember what to search to find it again (such an instructive game). I think bishop g6 is one of the most beautiful moves I've ever seen played. Just awesome.
Jerry, I just love your dry comments. Best videos on Alphazero and Leela, thanks
Wow! just watched this amazing match. My Droidfish also suggested Bg6! Just sharing. Thanks, Jerry for the instructive video..
"Look at this clown in the corner" 😂😂 i died a little
I accidentally left stockfish analyzing move 20 for white over night. It worked it's way through 53 ply! The result being 20. Bg6 += (0.75) to 20. Bxc4 += (0.47). I don't know what computer was used during the match but it would have been greatly superior to my old dual processor and may have reached the same conclusion that Leela did.
That Bg6 and g4 moves seem like maneuvers that would make A0 proud.
Actually lc0 is stronger than A0. The newest leelachess is fighting stockfish 10 and antifish (an engine created from stockfish, that leela trained with) and alphazero struggled with s8-s9.
unlike your other videos, i didnt feel the time passing as i watch this video. i think its the big enthusiasm you put in your vid. big thumbs up
Jerry's enthusiasm for Leela's moves is contagious
Hi Jerry, it's everyone.
Thanks Jerry one of the most instructive games I've ever seen!
Actually according to my Stockfish version it was split on it's choice for white's move 20. It had Bxc4 += (0.39) or Bg6 += (0.37). I find there's a general bias toward AI chess software because it's more 'human like' than the purely machine calculators. That's why we always see AI wins and rarely an AI loss.
Another great instructional video. Thanks Jerry
Glad you are making Leela videos again. Very instructive, amazing game.
Hi Jerry, can you go back to making Leela videos please. They are so instructional and I love to hear the excitement in your voice.
Besides the instructional value your enthusiasm is what made this video very enjoyable
This was an exceptional game and commentary, I got better at chess from that. Thanks Jerry
Thanks for the vid! I think this is the best game so far in the superfinal!
This is amazing game, thank for choosinthis game Jerry and thanks for your great Comments, you never miss brrakpoints int he games!
Thank you Ugur
@@ChessNetwork I love your interpretation man, unique really I watch Agadmator and a few more channels too but none of them can interpret the game as good as you and they miss important parts, they don't understand sometimes the breakpoints
I've never been happier to get a pop quiz right
Space Invader Pawn = Fawn Pawn
I know it sounds like "fawn pawn" but it's actually a heavy British accent saying "thorn pawn"...
9:00 look at this clown in the corner 😂😂😂 thats so funny
Great video, i'm not that much into chess. But very interrested in the ai topic.
So your analysis of the game scenario had a lot of value for me.
Great Job, thank you!
Videos make the day blessed, appreciated man!
9:01 Never gets old
Loved these leela videos
I am constantly looking forward to when Jerry uploads a new video. Your content is so instructional for a low rated player such as myself, keep it coming please! 😎
When Leela shows how space advantage > material in the most amazingly creative but precise ways :)
glad to have you back jerry!
Your videos are gold to me. Thank you.
Jerry please consider including a link to the TCEC website in the description! It's only thanks to TCEC's mostly-volunteer admins that we have these super strong games to consume :)
That is so cool. Great video again! Thank you!
It took a few moments but I also thought Bg6 would be good... if you gotta give up a piece may as well break down the opponents pawn defense and get a pawn of your own one step closer to his king while you're at it.
I just watched this, you're quick as hell Jerry!
I love your channel, Thank you for teaching the game.
Hello everyone! What's the idea here? Well, Jerry did beat agadmator uploading a very well commented video on Leela winning with the white pieces against stockfish first!
Jerry beats agadmator , everytime
Agadmator for me it's just terrible...there its no storytelling in the videos, no learning at all. I like Danny King, but Jerry it's another level cus really talks for a large range of players.
Can you explain Black's move 7? Blocks in that eventual clown rook? Why would Black choose this over Castling, pushing the pawn, or moving the Clown?
The pivotal Bishop move to g6 I thought of, but I had no understanding of why it might be a good move and couldn't follow it up, but I at least thought of it!
To be perfectly HONEST with you Jerry, I found bishop g6 straightaway but my idea was pretty much that was it. Take my bishop by messing up your pawn structure.
This is mind boggling!!!!
great instructive educational video sir....thank u for sharing beautiful content...
Love it! Thanks Jerry!
I much prefer Leela to Stockfish. Enjoy watching these -- thanks Jerry.
I feel like the underpromotion comes from the confidence of the lead, and the possibility of stalemating with a queen and king on board was learned by leela playing against herself, so deciding the lead is sufficient is really impressive
Lc0 41-move brilliancy
Hey Jerry, thanks for doing these videos. I've missed you, and I've especially missed your opinions on lc0 vs Stockfish games. Could you do some games where leela plays from behind or just from the black position? I'm very interested in her play there, especially since she seems weaker as black
I wonder how Bobby Fisher would react watching these AI playing such beautiful chess
While I do like the idea of the rook under promotion acting as a taunt, or being an optimization for computational power, or a simple roll of the dice, I think it had a purpose. If the game had continued, the piece would have guaranteed been traded. Leela chose to promote to rook since it put the same pressure on the board as a queen (particularly on both the rooks in the 8 row) and since it was worth less points. By accepting the trade (with little other choice), Stockfish would gain less points than if Leela had promoted to a Queen. The optimization wasn't in computation power (less decisions to make for a rook), but rather of the number of points Stockfish gains.
However, the sentient move to me was Stockfish's final move before surrendering (Kc6). To me, this move is a pseudo "tipping of the King" programmers probably added in for Stockfish. Poor Stockfish. ;')
I wonder if the rook promotion was to avoid any stalemates. Definitely shows what Leela had "in mind" if play was to continue. Probably didn't forsee any use out of diagonal movements so a rook was chosen. Maybe because all diagonals needed were covered by the dark squared bishop? Hmmm
That Bg6 move was a stunner.
Rofl At that underpromotion. I love whenever Ai essentially taunt their opponents.
Your videos are the best! It would be awesome to see your take on a game where leela loses.
Man I'm learning to be aggressive with all these Leela videos, I actually saw the Bg6 move. Although I had the direction of the black squared bishop wrong, I thought about going Bb2 to have the a3-f8 diagonal
At 13:37 depending on how black plays, white also has Rxa5
Love the enthusiasm, good video
wonderful analysis
I feel so proud that I came up with g6 in pop quiz yeeet
Leela beat Stockfish this way How! I am a big fan of Stockfish, difficult to endure losses like these, Can you please upload a game where Stockfish beaten Leela, So that my eyes can get some comfort :)
I found that bishop move. I figured that if you're losing a piece, you might as well mess up black's pawn structure. And it's not too hard for the dark square bishop to pivot on h4
11:55 Why does black has to take? Can't the king position be improved instead?
What if 14...Nxd4 immediately? The f pawn would still be on f2 instead of f4, preventing a bishop retreat to f2, and the kingside pawns would be a turn slower.
Great video thanks
Keep em coming!
I really could tell that f7 was a weakness for black in the position. So I said to myself “I guess I would keep the light asqueare Bishop and attack that point”. I am ashamed I wasn’t at the level of that beauty.
Super instructive.
and just now lc0 blew a total win with 7TB
leela only has access to 6TB
Even humans (including me) could win that position vs stockfish
@@douglasquaid7550 lmao
@@douglasquaid7550 no you coukdnt. Took my homefish 52 moves
Not that I have any way to prove it, but Bg6 was actually the first thing I considered, and it felt like a thing Leela would do, even if I couldn't immediately see where she'd go from there
Pawn nail.... Wow.... Just wow. Beautiful game. With Alpha Zero and Leela I'm loving myself some A.I. chess right now!! Poor Stockfish lol.
I have a question about black's 7th move, 7. ... Kf8. wouldn't Nxc3 be much better here? you pick up the knight and you have a discovered check right around the corner. Also if white recaptures with 8. bxc3 black can play Bxc3 and fork the king and the rook.
Also, why kf8 and not O-O, or Rg8?
Leela is frugal in promotion of the pawn to a rook, which most likely be taken out in later moves by stockfish.
Was Leela fishing stockfish with that move? 😁
I really want to see Leela vs AlphaZero!
Love your videos.
I like that the g6 pawn was right in the black king's grill!
Excellent!
So perfect, it's like poetry and Jerry is the master of soliloquy lol
Are there any games with Leela as black? or are they draws?
Thanks for your video.
Don't know how i would get use of bishop g6, but it was the first move to get in mind. Nice =)