Hats off to the Dragon for holding out for so long. Leela seems very balanced, turning a spatial advantage into a material one and showing coolness under fire.
One way you can imagine this is if the table base losses are just evaluated as a loss. So the computer thinks, okay I am choosing between a loss in 1 move or a loss in 2 moves. But yeah definitely funny.
I like to play the modern, but also the Austrian against the modern, so it's always cool to see how others treat the game from the opening. These videos are phenomenal, thank you
There is a database of all legal 7 piece positions (2 Kings and 5 other pieces) where the end (Win, Loss, Tie) is known with perfect play. So in the game if the Queen took the rook there would be a position with 7 pieces and the database says the position is winning for black with perfect play which the computers can do. So white doesn't take the rook to put itself in that position.
@@ryanswanson126 White to win, not black. (Black's turn to move anyway, if Komodo saw a table-base win for themself, wouldn't it be the logical choice? These bots aren't prideful, to my knowledge.)
@@nicbentulan my understanding is yes, you look the position up in a table and it gives you the answer. The computers are trained or programmed with those tables in mind so they use that to inform their play.
@@nicbentulanExactly right, all chess positions with seven pieces or less have now been solved. In a few years perhaps they will have completed eight piece tablebases, and so on. I guess the entire game of chess won't be solved until 32-piece tablebases have been produced! 😄
2:45 - I analysed this with Stockfish 10, and I noticed some interesting things here. First off, initially Stockfish thinks f5 is 0.0. Then at Depth 22 it thinks f5 is +0.6 and e5 is +0.5. Then lastly at Depth 27, it boosts the f5 evaluation to +0.9
Very interesting game, lots of position strength grinding from white, black looks desperate just a few moves in. Could someone elaborate on the endgame tablebase thing? Is it triggered whenever the 8th last piece is taken, to check if one side or the other is doomed at that point? Why does it make sense for computer games, which don't lack time to play uninteresting endgame moves? Quite curious on that
This position reminds me a lot the Gran Prix attack, i've studied and played counterless hours the pawn sacrifice agaist the fianchetto/dragon it's really tough for black to come out from that attack
Very interesting opening I always thought Nfd7 was the only non-losing move but it turns out that Bd7 is better and may be drawing against e5 (but probably still lost?). I’ve played this opening a lot against the Old Benoni.
The engines have taught me a lot about the power of waiting. The old me would have maybe snatched that pawn on D6, but they are confident in never decreasing pressure. BC1! to me is the best move in this game. Obvious advantage gained by the exchange, but they want to get the most juice from every squeeze, instead of busting their nut early.
Not for about a decade at this point. The team behind it never meant to revolutionize chess, they did by accident. And they just moved on to a new project, their Go engine. After thtat I have no idea what they did, but point is chess is done for deep mind.
I mean this game is from the Top Chess Engine Championship (TCEC), it's pretty much constant games of engines against eachother, you can go to the site and see the winners and games from past seasons
Komodo is clearly inferior to the more streamlined Leela. But what impressed me were the alternative lines (usually for Komodo) you put on. Did you calculate those yourself, Jerry?
Leela = Wesley So Stockfish = Magnus Carlsen - because of 9LX game in 2022Jan Deep Blue = Bobby Fischer Garry Kasparov= Garry Kasparov - Deep Blue is American Komodo = Hans Niemann - Larry Kaufman told me 'Magnus doesn't generally play such great openings, he strives to get the game out of book as early as possible usually. I think the issue here is that his greatest strength is the endgame, but FRC games are much more likely to be decided in the middlegame as the players are on their own so early. That's probably why he doesn't shine as brightly in FRC as in Classical chess.' (??) = Hikaru Nakamura ? I don't know any other modern engines besides Stockfish because Stockfish Leela because beat Stockfish Komodo because Larry Kaufman
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Hats off to the Dragon for holding out for so long. Leela seems very balanced, turning a spatial advantage into a material one and showing coolness under fire.
Hilarious how a table base loss is seemingly worse than losing to mate in two
One way you can imagine this is if the table base losses are just evaluated as a loss. So the computer thinks, okay I am choosing between a loss in 1 move or a loss in 2 moves. But yeah definitely funny.
I don’t even play chess anymore but I constantly watch chess videos and internalize nothing
I loved this one. Your analysis made it so every move looked very obvious to make.
Suddenly I feel like I’m 3800+ elo
more engineee games,pls pls pls pls Jerry,your commentery is simple yet instructive,making me feel like chess adventurer and scientist❤ with love
Thanks buddy. You are doing a great job. I like the way you dive deep into the analysis behind each move.
Thank you for the compliment. 👍
Incredible stuff. That f5 sacrifice is so interesting, clearly abundant compensation there.
That analysis at the end, an almost perfect triangle
I like to play the modern, but also the Austrian against the modern, so it's always cool to see how others treat the game from the opening.
These videos are phenomenal, thank you
👍
These chess engine games are fire
Komodo played 96 percent accuracy and still got destroyed😂
Leela is a space queen
Bender is great
whats a 7 piece table base win? referenced at the end
There is a database of all legal 7 piece positions (2 Kings and 5 other pieces) where the end (Win, Loss, Tie) is known with perfect play. So in the game if the Queen took the rook there would be a position with 7 pieces and the database says the position is winning for black with perfect play which the computers can do. So white doesn't take the rook to put itself in that position.
@@ryanswanson126 White to win, not black. (Black's turn to move anyway, if Komodo saw a table-base win for themself, wouldn't it be the logical choice? These bots aren't prideful, to my knowledge.)
@@ryanswanson126
Known with perfect play = solved?
@@nicbentulan my understanding is yes, you look the position up in a table and it gives you the answer. The computers are trained or programmed with those tables in mind so they use that to inform their play.
@@nicbentulanExactly right, all chess positions with seven pieces or less have now been solved.
In a few years perhaps they will have completed eight piece tablebases, and so on.
I guess the entire game of chess won't be solved until 32-piece tablebases have been produced! 😄
Best post from u sir ,I very much like ur voice and lucid explanations. U have amazing gift of voice and brain 🎉🎉❤
Excellent Mentoring. !!!!!!!!!!!
A smasging win by leela, thanks Jerry.
2:45 - I analysed this with Stockfish 10, and I noticed some interesting things here. First off, initially Stockfish thinks f5 is 0.0. Then at Depth 22 it thinks f5 is +0.6 and e5 is +0.5. Then lastly at Depth 27, it boosts the f5 evaluation to +0.9
I'd be very interested to see what SF16 thinks without NNUE
2:20 this position looks very similar to your second or third game in the standard chess series I believe. You played benko declined iirc.
Thx Jerry 😊
Leela produces my favorite games!
Thanks Jerry
Very interesting game, lots of position strength grinding from white, black looks desperate just a few moves in. Could someone elaborate on the endgame tablebase thing? Is it triggered whenever the 8th last piece is taken, to check if one side or the other is doomed at that point? Why does it make sense for computer games, which don't lack time to play uninteresting endgame moves? Quite curious on that
Excellent game, thank you for bringing it to us. My preference though is the brutality of the Fish? Thanks once again:)
Jerry legendado
This position reminds me a lot the Gran Prix attack, i've studied and played counterless hours the pawn sacrifice agaist the fianchetto/dragon it's really tough for black to come out from that attack
how bout them steelers. keeping our hopes alive = ) thank you jerry. nothing better then a strong pawn getting backup~!
This is a master class on space advantage.
Komodo Baggins
Wow. At which rating did they play, considering there were just a couple inaccuracies..
Both are well above 3200.
Love your pop quizzes
Please jerry from where you got this photo to Leela zero in background
Very interesting opening I always thought Nfd7 was the only non-losing move but it turns out that Bd7 is better and may be drawing against e5 (but probably still lost?). I’ve played this opening a lot against the Old Benoni.
I thought you could perhaps play Kd1 even earlier, on move 13, right after Qc7.
That was difficult to see far ahead. Barely kept up with piece by piece. 👏👏
The engines have taught me a lot about the power of waiting. The old me would have maybe snatched that pawn on D6, but they are confident in never decreasing pressure. BC1! to me is the best move in this game. Obvious advantage gained by the exchange, but they want to get the most juice from every squeeze, instead of busting their nut early.
Have no more alphazero games been released?
nope
Not for about a decade at this point. The team behind it never meant to revolutionize chess, they did by accident. And they just moved on to a new project, their Go engine. After thtat I have no idea what they did, but point is chess is done for deep mind.
thanks jerry, can you rank the top engines?
I mean this game is from the Top Chess Engine Championship (TCEC), it's pretty much constant games of engines against eachother, you can go to the site and see the winners and games from past seasons
Komodo is clearly inferior to the more streamlined Leela. But what impressed me were the alternative lines (usually for Komodo) you put on. Did you calculate those yourself, Jerry?
Nice
Hi Jerry.
The correct approach to play against Stockfish is to attack it with three prawns.
Gg
Leela = Wesley So
Stockfish = Magnus Carlsen
- because of 9LX game in 2022Jan
Deep Blue = Bobby Fischer
Garry Kasparov= Garry Kasparov
- Deep Blue is American
Komodo = Hans Niemann
- Larry Kaufman told me 'Magnus doesn't generally play such great openings, he strives to get the game out of book as early as possible usually. I think the issue here is that his greatest strength is the endgame, but FRC games are much more likely to be decided in the middlegame as the players are on their own so early. That's probably why he doesn't shine as brightly in FRC as in Classical chess.'
(??) = Hikaru Nakamura
?
I don't know any other modern engines besides
Stockfish because Stockfish
Leela because beat Stockfish
Komodo because Larry Kaufman
There's Rybka
This is the weirdest comment on chess that I have ever read.
@@mitic8231he’s been spamming for months and months, weird behavior
this account is spamming some really heavy conspiracy theories on twitter under every post of every popular chess related person@@mitic8231
@@mitic8231
Mark Weeks agrees with me for Magnus and Wesley So part but thanks for your honesty XD
Great analysis!
Stockfish is crushing LC0 in finals 🥲