THERAPIST REACTS to REN - MONEY GAME PART 3
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In this video, Psychotherapist Tom Stevens REACTS to REN - MONEY GAME PT 3 FOR THE FIRST TIME!
THERAPIST REACTS to REN - MONEY GAME PT 3
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After he says, "My solution...," the long pause with the gun on the table is very powerful to me. As a therapist myself, I know the power of silence. Like many, I used to avoid it, even fear it.
An unplanned period of silence is one of the most powerful things one can engage in. How a person reacts is very important to knowing someone. Intimacy can occur there. So can neurosis.
He goes silent after saying the words that he is offering a solution. He shows a gun. Loads the gun. Even then his solution is vague. He talks about children and at that same moment as he mentioned children and school, the camera 100% focuses on the gun. That, he left for your to explore. He doesn't need to connect the dots, he left that for you.
Also, for those wondering, I believe he has been telling you his solution from the very start of the story. Before the kid appeared, he was awoken from his indoctrination and noticed he was part of a money game and was blinded to it. The rest was about a kid whose father taught him the essentials and the rules of unbridled capitalism. Pure form capitalism with no moral constraints, community building or, "all boats rise," mentality.
In short: we teach our children different, they will change the futue.
I had the conversation with my 12 year old son. He's exceptionally brilliant in mathematical problem solving and that all anyone sees him as. I will work until the end of time to give him more than that. People, caring, using his gifts to create connections with humans. No matter your gift or earning potential, you only need one cookie from the cookie jar. If you grab a second, hand it to the next person.
I love this, well said!!!
My goal is to be rich enough to provide my wife and kids a good life. I know I'll never be a millionaire because if I ever had anywhere near that much, I wouldn't be able to not help the people around me who are struggling. No one becomes a millionaire much less billionaire while caring about those around them.
@biosec9361 this makes me think back to that poignant line in money game part 2 "swallow all your morals they're a poor man's quality"
That particular sequence was a master class in building tension and suspense....
He literally ends a line with the word "tension", and then leaves the next line unresolved, both lyrically and musically. And then the long pause where he very deliberately shows us the gun (nothing good here) and meticulously folds his coat. And then draws out the tension more by taking his time loading the magazine as he expounds some more, and then the blatant disregard for trigger discipline and gun safety to make us mentally squirm a bit, ans we know where this is going and we're powerless to intervene. It's a very Hitchcockian use of suspense and tension.
That's my favourite part (well one of the favourite parts that i have in this artwork)
Because what is the solution? Ending it? Seems legit to me.
Because it is a sh.t show... we know better.. we can do better (us, humans), but i need all of us to work on the same thing, as long that doesn't happen.. yeah.. there is no hope. He explains it very well in his lyrics. I am thinking and feeling the same, he expresses it better.
I have hope for my own life, but for everything else. No..
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I like to think, he expresses what most us are thinking and feeling, but i fear it's a minority.
Love that the rain represents the chorus from the first two Money Games.
"Rain rain rain rain,
His finger on the trigger,
Of a money game."
Enjoyed your perspective on this. Thanks.
This song really gets to me. My dad was the same way. Nothing I ever did was good enough. Even on his death bed, the last thing he ever said to me was, "Stop smoking and lose weight." The result was, I got fatter and smoked more. It took me years to get past his negative influence. I still smoke, but I've lost the weight, for myself. Great reaction.
Appreciate your input 😊👍
Good for you. One thing at a time. Losing weight is a massive accomplishment, for so many of us, it's a very, very difficult process. Smoking is the same. Pick your battles. (I had a very domineering mother who was never pleased, I can sympathise). x
That's a good start! Hopefully you can get over smoking, I lost my dad to cigarettes. He always wanted to stop but he couldn't. I remember one time I took a Pack and threw it far away when I was 10 he got mad at me and stopped talking to me for 2-3 day's while my grandmother and my aunts applauded me, He started smoking when he joined the Army as a young man. Not to mention they were really cheap at that time. Sorry for that rant thought I'd give my 2 cents on smoking I apologise If it was an inappropriate time for that 😅
Something that seems to get missed I feel is when Jimmy's dad dies, not only does he lose the person he looked up to the most he will also now never be able to get the one thing I think he sought more than all the money and power which is what made him spiral out of control the most and that is he will never hear his fathers approval. Hearing something as simple as "You've done good." can mean more than all the gold in the universe to many people when it is from the right person.
Oh, I just posted (not so eloquently) about the same thing being missed. That seemed a vitally important component of Jimmy's ultimate decline.
I'm a middle-age woman who was raised by a very domineering mum (my dad died when I was 6). Last week was the 30th anniversary of my mother's death, in '93, and I spent the day ruminating on the fact that she wouldn't be proud of me now, I'm disabled, I don't work, I have mental health issues, so far from the highly academic corporate slave I used to be, earning high and climbing higher. So it's honestly not just men that have this, although I know it's far more prevalent for men to be told to 'be a man' about things. Ren always blows my mind. How he managed to drop this particular song just as I was dwelling on the past a little and wishing I'd made some different choices along the way. I love your reactions for your mental health perspective, thank you. A couple of new things clicked for me as I watched this, so genuinely, thank you. x
Men consistently lead the charge in unaliving themselves due to what family and society think expectations of men are and it happens to be especially between the ages of 25-45.
Men’s mental health matters. Great song pick Megs was fun to watch this live.
Ren had to make up for Love Music Part 4. HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Great breakdown as always.
My parents checked my grades online every single day from 6th grade until I moved out. Anything less than 95+ was a failure to them. I never made less than A's with a couple B's. I still felt like a failure. To this day 10 years later every time I'm not perfect and achieving 100% I feel like I've failed. I have everything someone my age could hope to have, and feel like I'm failing. Ren's music is so powerful, this song wasn't spot on to my situation, but I still related to every bit.
Well said, happens to so many people😢
We need to learn the difference between
ENOUGH
and
*MORE*
Great reaction and breakdown. Ren is breaking through with his art and message. Everything about this short film, music, theatre, performance is nothing short of excellent. Wow, breaking new ground and this is exciting!!!
You need to think more of metaphors, this is a piece of art. People with money bags over their heads and the money bags tied like a noose around their necks. Its often how people feel when they are in debt with no way out.
Masterpiece 💐💐💐💐💐💐❣️ it's like a veil over people's eyes..... And Ren has had his removed! So he's able to Connect and delivery of the Message 💖🕊️
FYI the bag represents a money bag and it's not a noose, it's the rope tie on a full bag of money, kind of like a cartoon emoji of a money bag. Also did you pick up on how Ren shows us Jimmy going through all of the 7 deadly sins, starting with Greed. 🤑😈🤑🤯.
@robmarar the bags always brought me to mind of images of hostages, with bags over their heads and ropes around their necks. Since everyone in the story is wearing one, maybe it represents we are all hostages of the money game. It’s just a thought.
@@peterjack840I think it just means we are blinded by the veil of money making.
The people wearing bags and nooses represent those caught in the money game
I loved the symbolism of Ren taking off his perfectly tailored suit (his powerful exterior ) to reveal a disheveled appearance. (His personal demons)
The end to me echoed MG1 - he is doused in accelerant you see the lighter spark- but the screen goes to black before he is engulfed. We see the gun to his brain- hear the click but are spared the impact of the shot.
I love the call back to Mine Mine Gimme…
The imagery of Jimmy ducking under the handshake as he becomes less honorable and more underhanded ( literally). Brilliant.
The rain at the end - rain rain rain rain….
This just pierces the heart.
At the end.. the gun didn't fire. It's the ultimate symbol of a money game and it failed. (my interpretation).
It would be interesting to hear Ren's intention with the ending. Having been around guns before, the ending sound wasn't a gun clicking. It sounded more like a camera shutter or industrial lights shutting off. Maybe Ren's intention was that it was the gun.
I like it being up to the listener if it went off or not. I’m on the side that it did go off.
@@lesterparker1594In money game 1 the gasoline didn't caught fire either...I think it is intentional to leave it up to the imagination.
It seems like the sound of the gun was replaced by a light switch clicking off as the screen goes black. Almost like he switched off his life.
@@danielfloyd9742 Ah!!!1 The Soprano's ending.
On the day Ren released Money Game 3, he released another video of the actual "Money Game.. game". The winners of Ren's game were given tickets to go to an island, search for a location on the island... that takes about 40 mins of the video.. them talking, walking ... Then they find the Pig Man... he holds a shovel. The guys dig and find two brief cases... one the locks open immediately, the second one, was locked and Pigman has the combo. BUT..they have a choice to make... take the first briefcase that is unlocked that is filled money!!!! LOTS OF MONEY... or.. burn the money and Pigman will give them the combo to the second case.... Welcome to the MONEY GAME!!! I won't tell you what they chose!!!! Go watch the vid. MAKES SURE TO WATCH THE END.
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@@ReactionTherapyOfficial The treasure hunt was filled with easter eggs too - the location was the Scottish island of Jura, where George Orwell wrote Animal Farm! It was dusk, bleak, windy, a tough hike through boggy ground and up and down hills and rocky terrain. It is great fun to watch, I also encourage you to watch it. It was literally livestreamed as part of the lead up to the song and album release :D All this was after an entire week of riddles which needed people across a lot of different platforms using a variety of techniques from cracking computer code to interpreting artworks, to come together to solve each one. It was an amazing experience to be part of! Trust Ren to find clever ways to bring everyone together!
@@catsandcrafts171heee *two entire weeks of riddles, and some of us started on the shared research document a couple of days before the first riddle went live. For me it was about 16 days of shared insanity😂😅
But otherwise YES!! so much fun!!!
I used to intro people to Ren with Hi Ren, but I do believe this is the replacement! 🔥
The bag over his head with the noose is a representation of all us being held hostage to the money game. It’s a metaphor, it’s ART! Art is beautiful because it can open our eyes to a different perspective. I think Ren does this beautifully with all his music.
"Life is a series of Choices made over time"
Thank you so much! My wife says that all the time…so true!😊👍
This is a masterful performance by Ren. Such an amazing artist. Really enjoyed your reaction ❤
I agree that it's left open to interpretation but the genius is that regardless of whether it fired or didn't, the underlying message doesn't change.
I found your reaction channel because of Ren. Your reactions are impactful and mean a lot to people out here struggling. Thank you for making these videos. They do provide a form of therapy for everyone watching.
I appreciate you and these words😊❤️
I think the bag over his head represents a "Money Bag". I know it is hard for you to look at. I love all of your reactions!
If you zoom out of the story he’s telling, I also read this as an explanation of how the western patriarchy harms everyone, including men. The dad represents the message that patriarchy pushes into our culture.
The bags over their heads shows that we are all hostage to the money game
In my opinion the bag over is head is not a bag and noose but a money bag. We all have our judgement clouded by money (hence the bag over the head/eyes) and Ren pulls his off to tell us how it really is. It is almost a rebirth!
this is art at its finest masterpiece thank you for reacting to my favourite artist ever ❤❤
Heck this year I've learned the hard way, seeing that others feel the same as me on a situation it's not all in my head, but to keep the peace as it were I have to take the blame and apologize because the ones that are the issue will never see that they are the issue..
I just got fired from a field where I work with special needs kids. The only way to make more money in that field is to go back to school and get a degree and do all that stuff. I wasn’t sure if I really wanted to do that job anymore, and the fact that I got fired as amicably as I did was really telling to me that my heart was not in that field anymore. So I got full-time work with this part-time job that I was doing on the side, so I made that work, but I was immediately met with this existential crisis that I would no longer be able to impact the world like I did in my other job. I am absolutely tired my self-worth to that job, and I didn’t even know it.
Ren is a genius with an abundance of creativity and empathy. He uses that to try to make the world a better place - for the individual who finds relatability in his art and for the masses who need to come together to make changes as a community. Ren is truly a master of storytelling. If Netflix doesn’t give him his own show, they’re fools.
Really appreciated this ❤
“The man in the mirror”
In the money game videos I have always interpreted those with the bags over their heads as people stuck within the money game. So when ren takes the money bag off his head he is then outside telling/warning us about the dangers via the story of Jimmy's rise and fall.
Spend all the time trying to make his father proud, he says “you’re still second place”, then he passes away. How does he make him proud now?
First time seeing a reaction from your channel, subscribed and love your input 💚🤗🍀 when I have gime I will go through your reactions!
Thanks so much!😊👍
Keep it going, loving it!
19:08 That's the trigger the Ren would pull on the money game itself.... he would've wanted the guy to take himself out of the money game in a different way though, but jimmy instead ended up embodying what the money game tends towards which is ☠
That's a lesson for the youth. The more you grow older, the more you understand it... but we can blaim the youth to want the product society is selling...
Ren stated "Mold will Grow upon the Surface and Consumes til it dies, and Our Fate could be the same without this Story to the Wise" His Solution is to be a Teacher Opening the Eyes of Millions with his Art and his Heart! And I think Ren's message is Crystal Clear. Ambition and Passion Without Compassion Will Cause the World To Burn! But Ambition and Passion WITH Compassion Can Save It! If enough of Us actually LISTEN to his words, then Maybe, Just Maybe the Hunan Race may Survive!
The world came to a stop at the moment he took the call.
I love how he is running the orchestra with his motions
I was an honor to see react to this and also very fast. It has not even been a day from when Ren uploaded the video.
We would appreciate if you do any of these songs next. Thank you big bro 👍
Kendrick-Father Time,
AB-soul-Book of soul, threatening nature, Lonely soul.
Mac miller-wings, The star room,
The Game-Young N****s,
Jonny cash-Hurt
Asap Rocky-Phoenix
Surf curse -Freaks
lil Wayne -Demon
Spm-SPM Vs Los/Beans and Rice
Kodak Black- testimony,
Trippi Red-Dreamer
Danincing with the Devil- immortal
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Thanks for another reaction!
I think without a doubt, Ren will go down as one of the greats, if not, The Great of his generation. Ground breaking!
What a great reaction!
I am no therapist, but wondered if, after the death of the dad, there was no longer the ability to ever please him, so inevitably Jimmy spiraled out of control?
Thanks.
If you rewind a little, after pausing, you won't miss anything. :)
I love Ren.
Beautiful
*looks to the non men that have this same issue* If no one else does, I see you!
just a tip for the sponsored advertisement from the consumer perspective - dont have the ad cut from the reaction. We all excited to see that next part of the song and see the reactors reaction and putting a commercial in the middle of the song ruins the immersion. Instead, do the sponsored content before you start watching.
Unfortunately, the game has been around for a long time... and will last for eons to come.
Fortunately, there are those who put their finger on the wound. It is necessary not to desensitize and not lose the ability to feel the pain that this sh... game causes and, for that, thank you very much Ren.
Good video! And good reaction from you... thanks!
P.S. I'd like to come back here in about 2-3 eons to see if we're still wallowing in this shitty little game!...
Well said! And thank you😊👍
i won't go to therapy because you as a therapist missed so much
Don’t say that Jerry…does that mean you want to cancel our session this Tuesday at 9am?😳😢
@@ReactionTherapyOfficial so I should expect to get called back around 10am then sit in that room until 1030 before you stop in for a visit. LOL I am just having fun with you you actually do great reviews, at the same time I really don't trust therapists which is my issue not yours
You make me laugh! Thank you for that😊👍
The gun is just the reset button
Deep
Since you are a therapist, I’d like to know your thoughts on lyrics. Specifically, what I’ve found to be very depressing lyrics in western music (UK, US, Canada, etc). I’ve been into rock music for many years and think today’s music is depressing. They all seem to be about their own depressions, addictions, dead friends, etc. In contrast I’ve been listening more and more to songs from Japan. No it’s not because I don’t understand lol. Many songs have CC. They talk about struggle but also about fighting it and being better. My now all time favorite rock band Band-Maid has many songs like this. Please check out their new song Shambles. ruclips.net/video/lf0mQOiu8J8/видео.html
I’m not saying all Japanese music is positive but they still seem to have some sort of light at the end compared to western music. I actually love Ren and somehow even though he talks about serious stuff I don't feel down after listening to his stuff.
I don't think he showed any emotion when his father died. By that time the narcissist and selfish Ren was only thinking of himself.
I think he did, because no matter how narcissistic and selfish he became he still craved his father’s approval more than anything else, and once his father died he couldn’t get that
@@vrishankkanagala1514 But he showed no emotion when he got the news of his father's death. He obviously wanted his approval , but had no real feelings for him at all.
@@stevenmeyer9674I think his father's voice/ shadow/ influence in his mind was stronger than the actual man. So in a way his father never died, lived on in his mind. The cognitive dissonance from "knowing" his father was gone, but not ever "feeling" like his father was gone caused his spiral. He only wanted to make his father proud, that was his driving force, but he could never get his father's approval.
I think the story is full circle, can be valid theory that Jimmy only killed his attachment to the money game, and becomes the guy playing guitar in MG1, getting educated by The Narrator
Jimmy went off the rails when his father died - began “abusing his product” - this was his way of showing emotion.
@@Ann-vi5ns I agree with you. it was weird that he showed no outward remorse when he got the news.
Hello everyone
wow. i have seen it for the first time. it was sad af.
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What do you mean by saying, "I'm not the biggest fan of the style of Ren of how he does it"? Could you give an example of what you mean? What type of style do you like? I'm kind of curious.
He wasn't a fan of Love Music #4. 😂
@@samanthazwickel I love that song..BTW...Seven sins is so awesome. Ren is going to blow up with this album whether he get's first or second in the UK charts.
No. Therapists are ridiculously expensive. That's why most men don't want to see one.
Seriously?🤔
@@ReactionTherapyOfficial Do you see any indication that I was attempting a joke?
@@davemick7216 not at all, just a completely false statement…men don’t go to therapy because they think it shows them being weak. Men are actually willing to pay a lot more than women, you know why? Because they typically make more and money is a tool
@@ReactionTherapyOfficial Well, I'm a man who looked into therapy, and thought it was way too expensive to justify, especially not even knowing if I'll like my therapist or whether it will even help. I even looked into Better Help and felt the same, and other men I know have expressed this to me as well so, no, it is not a false statement. It just doesn't fit your narrative.
@davemick7216 In a world where being kind and being hateful are both free, you chose hate. I'm just here to remind you of that since you seem a little blinded by your ignorance with these comments. If doing this feels like it's what's best for you, then it's time to look in that mirror and reevaluate how you think. I hope you find a better path.
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Except for the cross over to illegal businesses etc. does anyone else get vibes of "The Game" the movie?
Seven sins is one you should definitely do next its so unique and interesting its about his relationship with pain and is very profound and insightful
So I want to ask you as a therapist do you take insurance? Because it’s gotten to the point where you can’t have a therapist if your poor because none of them take insurance. And at the point are you really about your patients well being or your own? I’m sorry I’m sure your awesome but that’s how I feel
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Ur done
Why did you egited
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FFS let it play. You stop at the worst times. A real tension killer.
Honestly a therapist shilling for better help was enough to get me to turn this off.
You should know better.
You really need t pay attention to the "PART 3" bit of the title... You might understand the reason for the bag and the story he's telling - been telling. #Whoosh dude
Whoosh is for jokes man
Is it me or is the whole marvel thing just daft now
I don't intend to be rude, but more so poignant. I don't know how you would expect to react, in a context of understanding, by decoding imagery in a song that's on the third chapter, when you hadn't, as far is i can see, reacted to the first 2 chapters.
Does one often skip straight to the end of a book, then publish their impressions?
Particularly in your space as a therapist, seems a bit odd.
If he did, I couldn't find the video anywhere. Based on his lack of understanding on certain things that would have been addressed in the previous videos, I'd say no, he hasn't seen them.
Perhaps the title of the video (part 3) escaped him, but it comes off like mailing it in, for the sake of cranking out another reaction video.
@@Cdaddy78 Actually it was my doing. This was on a live stream. I've been putting him in front of different versions of Ren since a few of the other Sick Boi tracks hadn't been his scene. I had just put him in front of Big Push then he mentioned hearing a new one from Ren had come out. So I put in as a request. I realize I should have put him in front of the other two first. However, I've seen plenty of excellent reactions from others who haven't seen the full series. Tom focuses more on mental health issues than the overall theme. So, though that part may have eluded him without the other two, I think he was able to tap into some good issues here. But if you feel the need to blame, blame me. He was simply fulfilling a request. I didn't feel like he was phoning it in at all and I saw it live.
@@Cdaddy78hey now, you may have had no intention of being rude.. but this was a request from a badass beauty RENegade! Please remember that we all find Ren at different points of his discography, who cares if he hasn't seen 1&2? I don't. He can always go backwards and react to them later. I only found Ren this year. #RENegades let's slay with kindness and positivity please💚🤗🍀
@@meggsy82that’s so kind of you megs😊 I don’t understand how people want me to always know the order of everything I react to, when I don’t even choose. There are so many good, quality constructive comments that don’t throw shade. But it’s all good because the livestream was 🔥 and your reaction were on point😊👍
Maybe because I’m an incompetent therapist that doesn’t know how to react to music properly 🤔 if your point is to trash me, at least watch the entire video and get the point of my message “mental health awareness” and not reacting to songs in the proper order👍