Devon trains bicep curls now?
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Crazy, devon goes on an absolute tear during his pumpkin sport specific training. 3-0s prudnik, trolled against genadi, Toyed with dave, 3-0s ermes, 3-0s denis, toys with giorgi… loses again to levan and now all of a sudden his training is no good and should have been doing x, y, z. No amount of bench/bicep curls would bave made a difference vs levan. The dude is a freak who is also extremely technical.
They gotta milk for content SOMEHOW
Armwrestling is niche enough where pulling a ton, shit ton of gear, and sub optimal training will put you at the top of the sport.
Exactly!
Yeah, Devon’s training is perfect, different training would make no difference against Levan, only thing that would make a difference is for Devon to also weigh 400lbs
His training is not perfect, he would benefit from having a stronger biceps for example.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660
He put all his eggs into one overflowing basket and Levan has 3 full baskets
I think that Devon has reached his absolute limit when it comes to armwrestling specific training. For him to keep getting better and stronger to gain another 15-20%. He would need to train like Levan but also hire like Stan Efferding to bump up the calories to gain quality mass. While keeping table time of course. But focusing on overall Raw power🔥
You left out the biggest part. He has to take enormous amounts of juice. That’s really the deciding factor at the highest levels.
The guy is pushing 50. His current shape is already a miracle, even with PEDs. Devon is an absolute legend of the sport but for his own health, he needs to calm down and not go for even more.
@@waterturtle2919 I am pretty sure that this is the reason why goes down the weightclass.
@@waterturtle2919Ron baron is 60, so no i think he can still compete for 10 years
he doesn't have to increase body fat he just needs some sensible full rom hypertrophy training that will make him stronger and less prone to injuries. All strongmen need hypertrophy phases or accessories, you need to build mass to reach your maximum absolute strength. Training his full body in higher rep ranges with full rom will also decrease his chance of injuries. When your top end bicep curl strength is high but not your bottom, that's not good at all!
Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on m but Devon’s right arm seems to atrophied while his left looks bigger and healthier. He mentioned it’s overtrained and now doing left. I think he may have started running into issues in the past several months. His arm looked like it was. His right looked a lot bigger and healthier 8-10 months ago
Your correct. Devon's right is probably still stronger in certain lifts but his left looks much healthier.
probably your eyes
@@RichardSmith-nd9vk
So you think his right still looks bigger than his left??
Yes, Devon should have been doing more general strength training especially as a super heavyweight. You have to leave no stone unturned going into a match against Levan rather than overtraining your right forearm
None of that would have mattered. He was outweighed by 140 Lbs and that’s not gonna change
Weight doesn't matter in arm wrestling, strength matters.
@@user-bd7id1qx5b so… why do you think there are weight categories?
Peak strength and muscle mass are synonymous. Muscle mass creates weight
@@user-bd7id1qx5beeeeeeh it kinda does since they’re linked, mass moves mass, Devon’s just a complete freak being able to outdo so many SHWs while being a borderline HW, if every armwrestler besides Levan trained as optimally as Devon, stem cells and whatnot, well, the number one spot would be way more contested.
Devon doesn't want death by pancakes.
He's happier with his family, arm wrestling clubs, RUclips, and just being Devon.
He should have done this for the Levan fight. He doesn't have to go crazy, just work it in to a point where the pain isn't as great.
He's been doing super high rep sets of 75lb hammer curls for years. Those power blocks he has, he uses them everyday just about
I doubt he still does that lmao
All else held equal (fiber-type composition for example) If you use a particular mucle then that muscle could generate more force if it had a greater volume of active muscle tissue. So if you're a super-heavy, or if you're near the lower-end for your weight-class, I see no reason why putting in a hypertrophy routine in between your strength workouts, targeting muscles that are actually used in armwrestling, wouldn't do you any good. At every point in my past when I've gotten noticeably stronger, I also got noticeably bigger. Even if the relationship isn't exactly linear, there's still a strong positive correlation. Almost always bigger does mean stronger.
He will win against 99,9% with his current training form. But he needs more side pressure and arm strength to win against 100%
He should’ve done bicep curls , side pressure and flop pressing alot as an addittion to his training style, i’m very sure that this is going to be a game changer for devon and maybe will change what happend in 20th april.
Move on.
I can’t@jokelot5221
He is NEVER beaten Levan
Cope
@@Bigramt he didnt say he would
thats how devon will get bigger than 300 lbs, Devon keeps saying he cant get 300 lbs because hes not training fully, if he trains fully he can
Literally everybody else who weighs more than devon is shorter than him, and people his height weigh more than him, hes just making excuses that he cant gain weight, he clearly can gain weight he just needs to start training the other areas
Heavy Bicep curl is very important
Well, being , arguably, number two in the world at something, probably means he was doing something right
Lmao that food comment came outta nowhere 😂
He might have been influenced by the Schoolboy/ Leonidas match also. We saw how far you can come with brute force and a bit of technique vs a lot of technique and AW experience. Sure we have Larry Wheels as a counter example and Leonidas may be just be more talented in this specific sport (or gets better coaching) but Devon called it one of the most important matches of that E vs W event.
I dont get why doing bicep and bench press work out will bring risks of injuries. I mean, just do it wisely, no? But if he feels pain, then things get tougher.. but be didnt mention that he feels pain if he does biceps curls
Devon can most certainly do all the relevant compound exercises at reasonable range of motion with no injuries, he just needs to do them only about twice a week to allow decent recovery, 5 to 10 reps per set, not singles, real compound exercises👉various presses & pull-ups, rows etc.
As someone who has a doctorate and over 10 years of experience inside the health and fitness world, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that Devon should have been training closer to what the Georgian team has been doing all along. The research is very clear that full RoM and also training into resistance and eccentrics for any muscle is FAR superior for both strength and muscle-tissue gains. Not only this, but strengthening your entire body increases the literal ceiling of power output you can possibly generate or resist in any given body part. Imagine if Devon's biceps, lats, pecs, legs, core, and shoulders (just to name a few) were just as proportionally strong to his forearm and hand? Imagine how much heavier in pure lean muscle tissue he'd be, and then think of how much force his body would be able to produce and resist... Its really basic physics. Only training hyper-specific muscles in very small RoM will have a HARD CAP on the power output one can exert. Period. The fact that he was able to get to this level while doing such tunnel-vision and inefficient training is just a testament to his work ethic, time committed, and genetics.
I believe doing both is going to maximize strength and muscle gain. Devon way of training is just perfect for arm wrestling specific movement considering how he got to the no 2 spot. Levan's training on the other hand is really good for overall strength and muscle gain. What do you think?
@@Melajied Both types of training are required to hit the theoretical highest limits of arm wrestling. Devon's problem is hes only doing 1 style, while everyone else is doing both. Like I said at the end of the comment, its a testament to the work hes put in and how naturally gifted he is that he could reach that level with only 1 way. There is no mystery about how to optimize the body's force production and resistance, and its by doing a mixture of both specific and non-specific strength.
Devon mentioned several times that traditional way of training the whole body doesn't work for him (anymore). It may be because of injuries or some other reasons, but he tried all the methods and finally found the most efficient way for him to still improve at armwrestling. Calling it inefficient is actually kinda disrespectful knowing how dedicated he is to get stronger and better while also being a master of this sport.
@@rufusw1992 You proved my point within your first sentence. The key word is: "(anymore)".
My whole argument is imagine he trained this way his whole career before he was so broken he couldn't even straighten out his arms for example... What I'm saying is LITERALLY the opposite of disrespectful: Devon is beating almost the entire competition in a broken body, lighter bodyweight, and with a limited training capability due to tons of injuries... He's literally clowning everyone with how much naturally better and dedicated he is to the craft. What's more respectable than being basically #1 with handicaps?
@@themasterkey3 Sure, if you start over then training your whole body should be everyone's priority, no doubt about it. To some extent of course, since you have limited amount of time and also have to focus on specific movements for your sport. Gasparini's training seems well balanced now, as an example. So your argument is valid, but conclusions I assume are very well known for top athletes anyway
"I'm always injured so I'm just going to focus on partial range 1 rep maxes"
He can't beat Levan but no-one at the moment can. What he can beat is nearly everyone else and hold onto #2, and maybe drop weight and get #1.
Shaq shatters backboards twice on Sundays. What do you think he’ll do to Mr. Glass, I mean AD?
No, he shouldn't have trained differently. He's literally the #2 shw in the world. While being as light as that weight class can be. And being 49. Saying his training was wrong after a single loss, and ignoring the fact he walked through everyone that isn't Levan, is braindead.
Oh wait, this is a clickbait channel, criticism is pointless.
I mean, the amount of people saying that without a RUclips channel, i find it crazy.
Are you gonna cry 😢
@@alexriofrio5754 I cried more the first time
Seeing some of this arm wrestling content reminds me of how much people like Devon carry this sport.
That was john berzink at :18.
He should’ve been going for more overall base strength and hyper trophy over all but still incorporating his style of isometrics and max weight to maximize the newly built tissues density. Devon is one of the greatest of all time while being relatively skinny for an arm wrestler in the open category. If he has 20lbs more mass and refines is with his pumpkin training as well as heavy basic movements he would probably be able beat everyone including levan. Levan is 100+lbs heavier. This shows that Devon is much higher quality and punches wayyy above his weight.
Personally i think devon needs to train pure back pressure 2:5
only then will he ever get a chance with levan look at the ermes vs evgeny practice vs
devon vs evgeby practice ermes arm never opened and
look at devon vs levan vs
ermes vs levan see the
difference arm power is more
important than pronation
I personally used to train just pronation and rise and side pressure now i train isolated back pressure too and now i am a lot stronger he needs to train back pressure and can drop under the table in offense and pin using his arm i grew 25% strobger in one and half a month
To get to the Levan levels, Devon needs to change his training
I think the reason why Devon has made this incredible seemingly non stop progression is because of his large frame and therefore large musculature. He has, because of this, a high Potential for maximum strength output and is going to plateu more likely later than sooner. Also, for him to gain muscle at this age is probably a very difficult, time consuming endavour that will not be worth the expenditure.
He has his love bois so fooled 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He needs row, bench and curls, body weight and side pressure, and maintain his current other numbers plus keep getting stronger in his current exercises where he hasn't maxed out. Well, to beat Levan at least. But I think he is 10 years late, I really do. Still, I think Devon can get even stronger. If he wins 115 and even 105 during this year, he might become hungry again and try one last time. But I really think we should look to Kurdecha for the world title. But if he fails, Vitali fails, Ermes fails, I honestly think Levan will go for the left hand wt just because. That could be interesting. Ranting now but man would I like too see Denis comeback. I really don't think it will happen tho.
I think Denis need to rethink his style and do better in the setup, plus develop other exercises into his training. Bu the way he crushed John and how he easily handle Dadykian in sparrings is no joke..
@@pedrocosta3311 Yes, in a way he - is - back. Anyone who lands a match with the gladiator is deep in it, even if I'm pretty sure Ermes will win quite easy. What you mention is part of it, and I think he does that because of his sickness. Denis seems to have developed a style around his problems. He can not tense up too much / have too much intensity in the body and also not move around as he'd like to. So yeah, I think Denis is just too damaged. As you might know he will go into hip replacement surgery after this match. That might give him more access to power, and the power is there. Yes, he isn't as big but strength wise I honestly think he is closer to his prime than people realize.
Not to mention everyone in the top level is juiced to the absolute gills.
How tf can't he do a bicep curl? I kinda get that like if his shoulders are fucked he couldn't do bench, but like how are you arm wrestling at all if you can't do a bicep curl movement
1:48 the person who threw that at devon is dead now
If you wish to beat the georgians: You MUST train 100% like them in every detail. Every other method has been proven to fail each and everytime.
num2 is also good
I think Heavy bench and bicep training would have helped his center table strength alot. He needs the fundamentals training as well, keep doing all the stuff he has been doing, but add the core strength training.
Or, just straight up train straight side pressure Todd Hutchings style and do JM presses for elbow rehab.
Levan has a weakness, it’s in his wrist, Devon established that, but Levan’s pronator remained intact. In round 1, as Levan transitioned to a press because his wrist was compromised, Devon should have come forward like he did with Denis, with the high hook, cutting off Levan’s bone line and attacking his pronator up high. Devon retreating to the Kings move stretched him out to much, and he lost his center table strength too quickly.
Levan said Devon had all the tools for the job aside from side pressure.
Conventional training "Georgian style" will help bridge that gap.
Either Devon has secret health issues (which PEP eluded to here) or he just isn't interested but either way he's running out of years to be his best self.
Is he broken or is he healthy? Before the match, he made that video saying he went for an MRI or whatever and was given a "clean bill of health." So is he broken or not? There are machines that terminate elbow extension at specific points so that you don't have to risk straightening an injured elbow. Devon is always saying, "find a way." My guy, every title that a Georgian contended for at EvW 12 flew back to Tbilisi with said title wrapped around the waist. Specialized training? Yes. Throwing all of your other lanes out the window by not doing a conventional lifting stack? WHY TF WOULD YOU DO THAT?! Obviously, his methods have merit, but that does not mean that 1. they are without flaw / 2. that they cannot be improved upon or complimented with other things. When the vast majority of elite-level athletes in a given sport rely on time tested methods, that one guy and gets to an elite level doing some wacky shit (in MMA, Tony Ferguson...) does not prove the uselessness or the non-necessity of the time tested methods. In MMA, no one should train like Tony Ferguson. "But he won an interim title! several fight unbeaten streak! He's a legend!" Sure, but *how much better* might he have been had he done what almost every other equally if not more incredible fighter had been doing ( and what they continue to do) for years and years? Listen to Volkanovski talk about his training methods. Or Khabib, or Georges St-Pierre, or Jose Aldo, or Henry Cejudo, or Kyle Snyder, or Abdulrashid Sadulaev, or whoever else, and you're not going to find any of the wild wacky shit that Tony Ferguson or other people like Jiri does.
Not that Devon's lifts are wacky. It's that focusing on them at the expense of everything else is ill advised, even if you are able to leverage the results they do give to great success. How much more could he have done with all that he did + biceps, chest, and back workouts? I absolutely, positively love Devon. He is one of my biggest inspirations generally, but... maybe he should have used all that time he spent tripping on Ketamine for whatever reason lifting weights instead. Again, I love Devon, but I always had to lie to myself about this aspect of his training in order to have hope about his stopping power against Levan were Levan able to bring Devon's hand close to the pin pad.
Regarding that, Devon was willing to let Levan snap his arm clean in half in the kings move from a horrible position in round 1 but doesn't think he can find a way to range of motion biceps and brachioradialis lifts without injuring himself? Come on man, I've got untreated adhesive capsulitis in my left shoulder and still compete in amateur mma. Find a way, Dev! Always find a way.
he needs the extra muscle mass, and power across the entire range of motion, but i doubt devon will just start doing it now
Devon is overrated at this point.
"You just need this, you just need that"
He doesn't know what he needs lol
Thanks for proving my point
What works for Levan won't work for everyone else
of course bicep curls help...of course bench will help with pressing...this isn't subjective, it's strength training...it won't add that much to his power, but it will add some, which may be enough to have him compete with Levan one day
I dont think its the bicep curls and bench press that are the difference between Devon and the Georgians, i think its what theyre willing to put in their body that is the difference.
Seems he was overconfident which caused him a loss.
He needs to juice lift. You can't do it nowadays without it. Levan sarms won't be beat unless you lift.
he didnt take the match with levan serious, he just needed to roid 20kg muscle. his weight was obsolutely disappointing that day
Hi pep
Hi Mario
Devon should have done heavy cheat and seated curls for at least a year before Levan. Passive bicep activation from pronation and riser lifts wasn't enough, and back pressure is his weak point, been known for a while.
Yeah ita better i sidnt sevons way a lot back then now i focusnon fundamental elbow flexors and such and i am better
Levan won because he's so much heavier
Devon crushing someone like hafthor shows his way is probably better overall you just have to go crazy on the hgh to maximize the other way lol jk jk well at least somewhat.
he whould be way bigger if he trained whole body the whoile time but he was too obcesed with arm wretling
It’s not hypertrophy tho. That’s more bodybuilding. The heavy training for max bicep strength is less about muscle growth and more about top end strength. I think Devon does what he does but adds in a back pressure lift and a nice specific lift that would benefit. But if injuries prevent what can you do?🤷🏼♂️
Devon saying he's not doing these exercices because he is broken is simply shit.
Everyone can bench,squat, press or Deadlift. The reason is motivation, he certainly hate them and chose to specialise to stay 100% armwrestler, bad idea imo.
Levon won because he's over 400 pounds lol
Devon's training is the best training, but devon's diet is not
Devon is no super heavy yet he beat all the best guys and should have beaten Genadi as well. So a heavy weight in reality was the top man until the monster Levan came back. Devon's training was fine as it was more focusewd to be the best at his weight. Who is going to beat him at 115kg when the majority of monsters at Super couldn't get the job done.
I mean the Georgian method also includes being fat tbh (joke)
Why does no one do hammer curls. Hammer curls are more specific and train a stronger muscle different from than the bicep. armwrestlers are stupid
Weight lifting nothing in arm wrestling
I'd ban all PEDs from the sport.
I would say all he really has to do is take pancakes and do about 6 months of georgian style training, while maintaining his isometric training, and then it would pay dividends, could probably beat Levan since Devon would be adding a toolset to a toolset which Levan doesn't have. People act like Levan is invincible. No, Levan has poor genes (wannabe strongman) that were enhanced by tons of pancakes. Devon is a natural so if he adds even half of the muscle Levan has Levan is finished. Everyone keeps telling him this but he never listens. ANyways it doesn't matter anymore as Brian Shaw is about to kill everyone in super heavyweight within a year.
You say that like he wasn't already juicing
You’re either trolling, or you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about
@@Day-ZDuke yeah like he was natty or at least plausibly natty until Michael todd 2021 but where does he think the pancakes meme comes from, literally Devon's prep for that match
hi pancake you make good videos they are really interesting but please stop talking about devon laratt there are many others who have talents too... like jerry flop press micheal king move travis come back or even you can talk about europeans, yes devon it's devon everyone always talks about him but unfortunately that's the only thing he wants from people, that we talk of him but there are plenty of new recruits who deserve to be mentioned as kamil leonidas etc...
devon's training routine is really terrible and he overtrains. he would get better progress from not training as often. anyways devon isn't built to put on much muscle, hes naturally a very skinny guy without explosive muscle fibers. so maybe he can't get strong no matter what.
No one is going to beat Levan. He's a fucking giant and his size advantage is so obvious it's not even worth talking about. I have no idea why people can't understand this. Brian Shaw is the only other human who would even have a chance against Levan. It takes another giant to beat a giant. Figure it out already. You can talk training and technique all you want but the fact remains that Levan is the biggest man in the history of the sport and he will remain undefeated until someone equal or larger in size and strength comes along. End of discussion.
That's a Old Photo and photoshopped. Stop lying pep