I guess that’s why I’ve always tended to win more than I lose, and always cash out conservatively. I’ve always viewed gambling as being in a defensive position. You aren’t playing for the casino’s money, they are playing for yours…
@@usefulprogrammer9880 That's why I've only ever played cards with buddies where I stand to lose $20 over a night. Casinos are rigged, they cheat people and they're so rich that they write the laws. I'm not playing a game that I'm guaranteed to lose. There's a reason why they're billionaires and it's rare for a player to even break even.
Both situations are masters of their domain. Goodfellas was more entertaining in a short period. But the Sopranos one hits harder, longer, and ultimately holds it's weight over the season. It's just movie vs television, pick your poison
In the Goodfellas partnership scene: Look to the left of Sonny as he speaks to Paulie. You'll see Tony Sirico (Paulie from Sopranos) eating in the background playing Tony Stacks. Tony appears early in the film too.
@@shanep5819 What do you mean? I don't think Richie wanted Davey to get further in debt, especially not to Tony. Otherwise he would have encouraged him to gamble more, not get mad at him at the executive game.
@@shanep5819 Yes, Tony and Richie were both there to exploit him. However, I don't think Richie was originally intending a bust-out. If he was, I would have expected him to encourage more gambling. Instead he told Davie to stay away from his games until he caught up on his payments. Seems like Richie was interested more in a long term steady stream of income.
A man pays his debts. How do you let your restaurant tab get to 7K ... In the 1960s no less !! We're talking over 20k now. The problem is is that Tommy is a deadbeat between scores.
They were setting the guy up for a bust out. Racking up that huge tab was a part of the playbook to get the guy in their claws. So was Henry “helping” him by bringing him to Paulie
Running up that $7000 tab was not just about the convenience of free meals/drinks/entertainment... it was part of the long-term plan to bust the joint out in the first place. Tommy was the fear-inducing "bad cop," and Henry's role was to be the less threatening, more reasonable "good cop" that the owner Sonny felt he could turn to once things started getting dicey. Henry ultimately takes Sonny to Paulie under the pretense of doing the poor, stressed-out guy a favor... but in reality he's just sealing the deal. The plan works to perfection as Sonny is literally begging Paulie/Henry for an arrangement that can and will only end in ruin for Sonny, the (soon-to-be) former owner of the Bamboo Lounge. Mafia 101... Just as Tony tells Scatino near the end of this video, this kind of thing "is [Tony's] bread and butter".
Tony's true feelings about Davey's debt were captured right when he heard the 45 boxes of ziti owed. Tony's "What?!" sounded both surprised and concerned. He wasn't happy about Davey's debt to him, despite what he said later.
@@PoppaBearandBabyBear.-be5jzhe crawls from whatever prison he’d been rotting in since members only jackets were still the hot thing to wear, is out for FIVE MINUTES, and immediately tries to shake a guy down who A) he hasn’t seen in decades, B) really doesn’t owe him anything and C) is already protected by and paying someone in the organization. He definitely wasn’t right in that situation with Beansie. Not even an iota. Only reason Tony couldn’t discipline him further is his ferocious reputation and support from other people in the organization. He also wasn’t right selling coke on the garbage routes against Tony’s wishes. All in all, Richie was an old school act; he has his moments (like with dave) where he can be reasonable, but he still believes in dominance and brutality and the old ways, which conflict with the order the boss (Tony) has set up.
@@Notimportant253 I agree and disagree at the same time. Richie has every right to feel some type of way especially because he put beans in in action and not once did beans ever visit him in jail, now the way he went about wasn't the smartest move. Remember Paulie did 6 months and hated Tony didn't visit Riche has a legitimate beef and that's just one situation where Richie was right to be upset but went about it in the wrong way. Even the way beans talks to the young kid is pretty disrespectful talking like he's a wise guy or tough guy to a civilian which tells me what kind of manager/boss he is. Richie gave the kid respect and told him not to worry about it and if you see Richie kept the code and never disrespected civilians thst weren't part of it. Dave's kid at the sports place, if you recall
About the time that the Goodfellas bust out was happening, The Many Saints of Newark was taking place as well. In it's fictional universe, of course. Also, whenever Tony refers to the days of his youth, now we have a point of reference, thanks to the prequel movie. James' son did a wonderful job portraying a young Tony
"When your fuckin' credit runs out, Diamond Jim. Until then? Get on the fuckin' horn and order. Unless...you want to pay the principal you owe us." My favorite storyline on this show, ever. THIS is the mob. Getting leverage on a dumb fuck who gets in over his head. Busts him out. That's the mafia. It ain't 'Scarface'.
But at that point, even if Dave Scatino were to come up with the principal he owed them right then and there, they wouldn't have gone away. They would've just busted him out anyway. What could he do about it?
@@humanbeing2420maybe. Although if he somehow handed over $54k in cash Tony & Richie would be fine with it, especially as they know he’d be back at the tables the next night. I think they’d leave the store & instead help this terrible gambler with a magical source of cash play as much as he likes.
@@sangremog Exactly. They knew if Scatino could come up with 54k, then that means he'd have lots of money to lose again in another card game. These guys see a degenerate gambler coming from a mile away.
@@humanbeing2420 Eh... maybe if they didn't like him, but being a lifelong Tony friend might not have saved him from his debt, but it might have saved him from being completely abused. IDK I can't see Tony ruining a guy who completely paid up. He'd be pretty happy with everything
In season 4 of The Sopranos when Artie gets scammed by the frog and Tony takes over his debt, he tells Artie to wipe his tab at Vesuvios, which is 7 grand, in return. The same as Tommy's tab in Goodfellas. I wonder if that was intentional
YOU KNOW teh worst part of the Scatino Bust out? If the business is in his wifes name? He could have saved his ENTIRE family alot of girief by a) Deleting himself b) Leaving the state and Disappearing. He was to chicken shite though and did neither and destroyed his family.
1:50 Oh look, it's the king buzz-kill. My college buddy had a roommate like that. Dude could suck the air out of a room and make people want to leave faster than a Gestapo raid.
Tony tried to give Davey multiple chances to not go into back breaking debt but he wouldn't listen. That executive game was a setup for sure with Silvio and Paulie slow rolling him but he could have just stayed home with his family.
Why do so many of these compilations seemingly deliberately screw up the chronology? Here we see Ritchie attacking Davey at the poker game. AFTER that, we see Davey giving Ritchie a "light envelope" at his store... when that short payment is the entire reason Ritchie was so ticked off to find Davey at the game. I can't imagine that chronology was wrong by accident, but I can't fathom why it would be done purposefully. I see this on a lot of other clip-fests like this. Bugs the crab outta me.
I get what you mean but to me the intent seems to be to juxtapose the goodfellas scene with the Sopranos scene. The emphasis is less on chronology and just comparing the two pieces of art. The Goodfellas scene happens after the takeover of the restaurant so it would have been difficult to compare both scenes in a chronologically correct and relevant manner
2:08 Richie wasn't wrong... Davey was being a Snake going behind his back gambling more when he already owed 7 stacks.. I understand tony didnt want that at his game though because of his other guest who might not show up next time.. but he should have "Sent him Ooooouuutt" 😂😂😂😂
In the first scene, the restaurant needs to refuse service. a $1000 tab is already pushing things. Adjusted for inflation, I personally would not allow a customer debt to exceed $5000 before simply banning them.
The big difference between the two is that Goodfellas never pretends its characters are anything but conniving thieves. Sopranos wants you to empathize and identify with Tony. That's why Davey gambles his way into debt so the audience feels like he deserves it whereas Henry and Paulie con Sonny by using Tommy as a threat.
I don't understand the busting out thing. Why not just extort them straight up? Why bother with the elaborate scheme to make it look like the victim brought it on themselves? Either way the victims pay out of fear.
Great video
Furio said it best. “Bet with your head, not over it”.
“It’s just a sstutter step”. 😂😂😂
S-s-stutter s-step
Davey within the course of a few days ended up FIFITY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN DEBT messing around with Mafia card games….. talk about degenerate.
and pissed away his families savings, his kids college fund, and his business.
doesn't take long once you get into the rabbit hole...
Robert Patrick met with some recovering gamblers to prep for this role. He said they all said the same thing, gambling made them feel invincible.
I guess that’s why I’ve always tended to win more than I lose, and always cash out conservatively. I’ve always viewed gambling as being in a defensive position. You aren’t playing for the casino’s money, they are playing for yours…
@@usefulprogrammer9880
That's why I've only ever played cards with buddies where I stand to lose $20 over a night. Casinos are rigged, they cheat people and they're so rich that they write the laws. I'm not playing a game that I'm guaranteed to lose. There's a reason why they're billionaires and it's rare for a player to even break even.
With this comment I now understand BossmanJack the character
I had a pretty good streak at blackjack in Vegas, was up $800 on the machine and lost it all when I went big on one hand. Lesson learned.
@@jonathanbirch2022 lol you never increase your bet on a machine. Real table, maybe, but never a machine.
Larry barese really fucked up with this one
larry expected to get fucked out of that restaurant
He saw these guys get free soft drinks of choice, recruited his cousin Albert and joined the game
Calling him Diamond Jim is hilarious
Paulie's look after he says "I would like to help you out" is so classic...3:35
Is the same look that Remo in Casino
I've always loved that look too. Like he's saying "Ah, we got him Henry!"
Both situations are masters of their domain. Goodfellas was more entertaining in a short period. But the Sopranos one hits harder, longer, and ultimately holds it's weight over the season. It's just movie vs television, pick your poison
Lol he's like "da fk is w this dude!?!?"
Meanwhile he's rippin him off
In the Goodfellas partnership scene: Look to the left of Sonny as he speaks to Paulie. You'll see Tony Sirico (Paulie from Sopranos) eating in the background playing Tony Stacks. Tony appears early in the film too.
Stacks was the black dude from pulp fiction
Heh heh
@@jefferybye2169 Black dude from Pulp Fiction? That's how we're referring to one of the most iconic actors of our time?
@@bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149 yes samuel Jackson i couldn't think of his name
Samuel L. Jackson played Stacks in Goodfellas ("everybody liked stacks") and Joules in Pulp Fiction.
All i know is how to sit down and order a meal 😂
Richie and tony gave davey so many chances and he still blew it.
They knew he never had a chance, that's the whole point,
@@shanep5819 What do you mean? I don't think Richie wanted Davey to get further in debt, especially not to Tony. Otherwise he would have encouraged him to gamble more, not get mad at him at the executive game.
@@edd8914 They are gangsters, criminals. they saw a mark and drew him in. its what they do.
@@shanep5819 Yes, Tony and Richie were both there to exploit him. However, I don't think Richie was originally intending a bust-out. If he was, I would have expected him to encourage more gambling. Instead he told Davie to stay away from his games until he caught up on his payments. Seems like Richie was interested more in a long term steady stream of income.
Eventually Richie would have busted out Davey. If Davey was having trouble paying his debts.
imagine getting a facelift and 1 week later you're in Federal holding looking at your reflection in the mirror?
Can you imagine that?
Shinebox
That Richie head sway..to David..top notch 👌
A man pays his debts. How do you let your restaurant tab get to 7K ... In the 1960s no less !! We're talking over 20k now. The problem is is that Tommy is a deadbeat between scores.
He knew the owner didn’t have the balls he was never going to pay the tap
They were setting the guy up for a bust out. Racking up that huge tab was a part of the playbook to get the guy in their claws. So was Henry “helping” him by bringing him to Paulie
Running up that $7000 tab was not just about the convenience of free meals/drinks/entertainment... it was part of the long-term plan to bust the joint out in the first place. Tommy was the fear-inducing "bad cop," and Henry's role was to be the less threatening, more reasonable "good cop" that the owner Sonny felt he could turn to once things started getting dicey.
Henry ultimately takes Sonny to Paulie under the pretense of doing the poor, stressed-out guy a favor... but in reality he's just sealing the deal. The plan works to perfection as Sonny is literally begging Paulie/Henry for an arrangement that can and will only end in ruin for Sonny, the (soon-to-be) former owner of the Bamboo Lounge.
Mafia 101... Just as Tony tells Scatino near the end of this video, this kind of thing "is [Tony's] bread and butter".
Back then it was different because someone like Tommy was feared by many people and was paulie’s nephew.
It's a movie.
"i'm gonna come back. My luck's gonna change"!!!!!! Powerful shit especially when you try putting yourself in his shoes.
This looks very much like the business model of many of the private equity companies. Only it is with debt rather than supply creditors.
6:59 only time i saw ritchy try to be a good guy.
Don't gamble kids
Tony's true feelings about Davey's debt were captured right when he heard the 45 boxes of ziti owed. Tony's "What?!" sounded both surprised and concerned. He wasn't happy about Davey's debt to him, despite what he said later.
Tommy & Henry did a hell of a job with the good cop/bad cop routine
Yup the writers, and director had nothing to do with it.
@@TurdFerguson-xs2ll what are you yapping about?
@@CaptainTrips560 whatever I want.
@@TurdFerguson-xs2ll do you wanna say something that has anything to do with my comment?
@@CaptainTrips560 i already did you not smart enough to understand it
This is the only situation where I think Richie was justified for his reasons
Nah!!!! Richie was often correct in every situation but went the wrong way of dealing with it
@@PoppaBearandBabyBear.-be5jzhe crawls from whatever prison he’d been rotting in since members only jackets were still the hot thing to wear, is out for FIVE MINUTES, and immediately tries to shake a guy down who A) he hasn’t seen in decades, B) really doesn’t owe him anything and C) is already protected by and paying someone in the organization. He definitely wasn’t right in that situation with Beansie. Not even an iota. Only reason Tony couldn’t discipline him further is his ferocious reputation and support from other people in the organization. He also wasn’t right selling coke on the garbage routes against Tony’s wishes. All in all, Richie was an old school act; he has his moments (like with dave) where he can be reasonable, but he still believes in dominance and brutality and the old ways, which conflict with the order the boss (Tony) has set up.
@@Notimportant253 I agree and disagree at the same time. Richie has every right to feel some type of way especially because he put beans in in action and not once did beans ever visit him in jail, now the way he went about wasn't the smartest move. Remember Paulie did 6 months and hated Tony didn't visit Riche has a legitimate beef and that's just one situation where Richie was right to be upset but went about it in the wrong way. Even the way beans talks to the young kid is pretty disrespectful talking like he's a wise guy or tough guy to a civilian which tells me what kind of manager/boss he is. Richie gave the kid respect and told him not to worry about it and if you see Richie kept the code and never disrespected civilians thst weren't part of it. Dave's kid at the sports place, if you recall
I can certainly agree with
You forgot when he punched Janice
Like the way you put this video together 👍
The end is the end.
Jesus, how about the luck on that silvio huh? 5:33
After goodfellas dude changed his name, learned feom Paulie then re-emerged as the legendary Lawrence Barese👌🏾🔥🥂❤️
He owed them $45k??? Oh my good god 😫
This is the moment that scatino decided to become a terminator
no honour among thieves. criminals/immoral people always get upset when you ask them to do what is fair.
There's a difference between a criminal and someone immoral they are not interchangeable
"Except us" - Saul Goodman
@@user-yh6dq2hl2t correct. I was referring to both.
@@_lithp not all criminals are bad people
About the time that the Goodfellas bust out was happening, The Many Saints of Newark was taking place as well. In it's fictional universe, of course. Also, whenever Tony refers to the days of his youth, now we have a point of reference, thanks to the prequel movie. James' son did a wonderful job portraying a young Tony
Did he? Maybe, I don't know but the movie in whole was an embarrassment to the series.
TMSoN sucked ass. Total fan fiction. It retcons several plot points in The Sopranos.
@@kaj7135it was hot Dogshit for sure.
alright hamburger!
Yeah right & Im playing shortstop for the Mets
"When your fuckin' credit runs out, Diamond Jim. Until then? Get on the fuckin' horn and order. Unless...you want to pay the principal you owe us." My favorite storyline on this show, ever. THIS is the mob. Getting leverage on a dumb fuck who gets in over his head. Busts him out. That's the mafia. It ain't 'Scarface'.
But at that point, even if Dave Scatino were to come up with the principal he owed them right then and there, they wouldn't have gone away. They would've just busted him out anyway. What could he do about it?
@@humanbeing2420 True.
@@humanbeing2420maybe. Although if he somehow handed over $54k in cash Tony & Richie would be fine with it, especially as they know he’d be back at the tables the next night. I think they’d leave the store & instead help this terrible gambler with a magical source of cash play as much as he likes.
@@sangremog Exactly. They knew if Scatino could come up with 54k, then that means he'd have lots of money to lose again in another card game. These guys see a degenerate gambler coming from a mile away.
@@humanbeing2420 Eh... maybe if they didn't like him, but being a lifelong Tony friend might not have saved him from his debt, but it might have saved him from being completely abused. IDK I can't see Tony ruining a guy who completely paid up. He'd be pretty happy with everything
Diamond Jim was a made guy, with a goomah!!
If I took over a restaurant, I would sell nice fresh lox with a side of the fruits of zellman and wash it down with soft drinks of choice.
Tony: Davey! Did I do anything to insult you?
I need 45 boxes of Zita.
5% weekly on $45k is crazy 😮😮
In season 4 of The Sopranos when Artie gets scammed by the frog and Tony takes over his debt, he tells Artie to wipe his tab at Vesuvios, which is 7 grand, in return. The same as Tommy's tab in Goodfellas. I wonder if that was intentional
nice edit
For a couple three bucks a piece??? Fuxk it, I'd take one!
YOU KNOW teh worst part of the Scatino Bust out?
If the business is in his wifes name?
He could have saved his ENTIRE family alot of girief by a) Deleting himself b) Leaving the state and Disappearing.
He was to chicken shite though and did neither and destroyed his family.
Davey Scatino approved this.
That's some sad shit...
Degenerate gamblers all end up the same way
motherfucker said he didnt wanna stutter step no more
Tony took it so easy on Dave and Artie. It’s almost like deep down Tony is a good guy.
This is the only scene in the sopranos where Tony and Ritchie are working together 🤯
1:50 Oh look, it's the king buzz-kill. My college buddy had a roommate like that. Dude could suck the air out of a room and make people want to leave faster than a Gestapo raid.
Davey was the only standup guy on the show
Tony tried to give Davey multiple chances to not go into back breaking debt but he wouldn't listen. That executive game was a setup for sure with Silvio and Paulie slow rolling him but he could have just stayed home with his family.
"How'd you get in here?"
Hi Rich...
@1:04 he couldve bet Vito something other than money
The King of Dermabrasion.
Why do so many of these compilations seemingly deliberately screw up the chronology? Here we see Ritchie attacking Davey at the poker game. AFTER that, we see Davey giving Ritchie a "light envelope" at his store... when that short payment is the entire reason Ritchie was so ticked off to find Davey at the game.
I can't imagine that chronology was wrong by accident, but I can't fathom why it would be done purposefully. I see this on a lot of other clip-fests like this. Bugs the crab outta me.
I get what you mean but to me the intent seems to be to juxtapose the goodfellas scene with the Sopranos scene. The emphasis is less on chronology and just comparing the two pieces of art. The Goodfellas scene happens after the takeover of the restaurant so it would have been difficult to compare both scenes in a chronologically correct and relevant manner
@@pibble9207 My point applies to quite a few YT postings out there, it seems Sopranos in particular, but you do make a fair point here.
You skipped the best part…. “Awww Davey I’m sorry”
Tony said it when Davey asked him why he let him join the high stakes poker game. Tony said he knew Davy had the business.
Davey still walked through the door no one made him 🚪
That’s what happens when you get mixed up with these people.
Didn’t your daddy ever teach not to stay away from criminals??
I say we sever all ties with Tommy. End this embarrassment right now.
Duuuuuude the T-1000 shouldnt take shit off nobody...
Davey did it to himself. gambling addict and never did learn his lesson even after that. the fool moved to Vegas.
What does 45 boxes of ziti mean?
One box= $1k
I know it’s only Hollywood…
But these clips are some of the best reasons to stay away from any criminal
enterprise….
I never understand when they say the difference is added to the principle?
Basically it means that he now has to pay interest on the amount he was short, instead of just making up the difference in the next payment.
Ok thanks
"If you would have won, I'd be the one crying the blues." No. If you would have won, Tony would have clipped your ass to avoid paying.
2:08 Richie wasn't wrong... Davey was being a Snake going behind his back gambling more when he already owed 7 stacks..
I understand tony didnt want that at his game though because of his other guest who might not show up next time.. but he should have "Sent him Ooooouuutt" 😂😂😂😂
Let him pay me my moooney, send him oouut.
@@1597B
Richie: Send him OOooouttt..
Tony: Why? Rich Why?
Richie: I got him the Jaaackeeeeeeet🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the first scene, the restaurant needs to refuse service. a $1000 tab is already pushing things. Adjusted for inflation, I personally would not allow a customer debt to exceed $5000 before simply banning them.
And get tossed into a dumpster about thirty minutes after.
@@waragainstmyself1159 lmfao
Imagine banning Tommy in front of his friends.
The big difference between the two is that Goodfellas never pretends its characters are anything but conniving thieves. Sopranos wants you to empathize and identify with Tony. That's why Davey gambles his way into debt so the audience feels like he deserves it whereas Henry and Paulie con Sonny by using Tommy as a threat.
Sopranos does not want empathy for Tony
Huh?
Sopranos has really made it clear in the beginning these are not good people.
The show clearly wants you to empathize with him
Which is why the sopranos was such a well written show.
I don't understand the busting out thing. Why not just extort them straight up? Why bother with the elaborate scheme to make it look like the victim brought it on themselves? Either way the victims pay out of fear.
*Film Detail: Notice Paulie behind Lorenzo, fucking gang guidos*
Is this guy really crying? Lol
You take a $10 cooler and have a couple black guys sell it for $3. Doesn't matter, its all profit!
Oh those two.
If a Mobster says"I Liked You","You're A Nice Guy",and"This Game For You",you should obey his advice😊
That lesson of Tony vs Davey😊
Davey even gambled away his son's college funds and sold his suv ~that's low ball pathetic