Are Electric Dirt Bikes Realistic Yet?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Electric has long-been on the horizon for dirt bikes, it just makes sense - Silent, torquey, low maintenance, impossible to stall, no changing gears… The list goes on. And there have been a few attempts at bringing one to market in the last handful of years, most notably by Alta - Who were promptly screwed over and squashed by Harley Davidson. So my hopes weren’t exactly high when hype started running rife about some 80hp beast a company I’d never heard of were planning to make… But lo and behold, the Stark Varg is real! And it’s made it all the way down to New Zealand, where I got to spend a very wet and rough Berm Buster Sunday riding it, courtesy of AFC Motorcycles - Who were sick of misinformation spreading around about how long this bike lasts, and takes to charge. They told me to ride it all day, and that as long as I put it on charge between laps, it’d outlast me… Here’s how that went!
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Written, Edited & Narrated by:
Ash Sowman
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Ash Sowman - 2024 Stark Varg
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I put some of this footage up WITHOUT MUSIC over on the second channel, I love the way you can HEAR how rough the track is 👂 ruclips.net/video/9l8wTC6OWeY/видео.html
Mate of mine started development of an electric cross/enduro bike couple of years back specifically aimed at cross-country/enduro competitions with an hot swappable battery. They've got their concept bike running a couple months back and are now setting up contracts and final design changes for series production. Should be going to market within two years with the aim to be as close to a gas powered bike in use as can be. The battery swap taking as much time as a quick fuel refill eg.. Company is called Stern motorcycles (yes, name is similar but they didn't know about the Stark when they registered the name :') ). Couple of the employees have ridden the Stark by now as well and are impressed but feel like the hot swappable battery of their bike will be their unique selling point. Just hope for their sake that Stark won't come out with such a bike within 2 years.
Would the bike come with multiple batteries or do you have to spend more on extra batteries
@@veke_k2170 No clue but I imagine that it will either come with two as standard or just one and that you can buy additional ones. Can also imagine that they are still researching what the best business case will be considering this
I want one cause they're fast, not because it's environmentally friendly.
Both you and I know they don't help the environment in the least. The way the battery materials are dug up, who digs them up and where, as well as they still have to be charged by regular electricity. Just like most electric cars, they are often charged by a diesel generator. Just another way for the wealthy to get weathier!!
It’s not environmental friendly anyway
Love the petrol generator just sat running.
That is an infrastructure problem... and can/will change with demand.
With a bigger generator? Won't happen at most places you ride dirt bikes
@@etherealicer You are never going to have 240V power connections in remote riding areas.
What’s your point ?
@@Ozfreerider2504 Seems pretty clear to me mate. What's more efficient? Running a generator to charge a bike, running a transmission line to some pine forest car park somewhere or just burning the fuel directly in the bike?
Not sure why we're rushing to electrify dirt bikes and aeroplanes, the things where high energy density is most useful, when we could spend the money and battery resources greening the grid, our homes and our industries
The "green" aspects of an electric enduro/mx bike are not the way you charge it, as for most countries even if you charge it at home you use anywhere between 0 and 70% "green" energy, while the reset is gas, oil or coal, but the fact that it doesn't make any noise thus doesn't disturb local residents for urban mx tracks, and doesn't disturb wildlife for enduro/trail tracks, as well as minimizing the pollution you leave on the tracks as there is no exhaust and no 2 stroke oil and overflow gas dripping all around the track. From a riding perspective, especially in hard enduro, having unlimited torque and a hand rear break for those rear sketchy situations where you are stuck on a steep climb where you could not use your foot rear break to get going is amazing. Also the fact that the maintenance is significantly reduced (basically just gear oil every 40 ride hours, break pads and tires) is bliss. The main problem is battery range, and in hard enduro, the fact that the weight is too up high, so if you drop the bike it's a pain to lift compared to a 2 stroke. My typical hard/soft enduro trails are anywhere between 40 (mostly hard) to 80 (mostly soft) Km long, and as it stands, for example the Stark can only do ~50 km in 45 HP mode, maybe a bit less if I'm doing hard tracks where I end up spinning the wheel in place more often than on softer tracks. This much HP is more than enough for the conditions I'm used to riding, but the range is simply not there yet. Once the range will end up closer to my preferred ~80 KM and the wight is at least shifted a bit lower from the top with a wider but less tall battery, then I'm seriously considering getting a Stark or equivalent electric motorcycle. Till then 2 stroke is the one to go.
Great video that answered all of my questions. This is the first review I have seen here in NZ
I am so glad so woke up to a post from Ash, easily one of my favorite channels
I took mine at Pukemara Dirtworld on Saturday. Rode in the morning, charged over lunch, did another lap in the arvo, then I was knackered. So that's working for me.
And the display has a dark mode to stop you getting blinded in the forest.
5:52 @@JezWeston Did your display housing break like this one did when he came in from his final lap?
@@tbrowniscool That's how it's supposed to be - the display housing opens up to remove the phone display.
The phone's pretty sweet - the app keeps updating with new features as does the bike. Last month I got reverse mode - not much use for open tracks like these but for tight forest it makes my life much easier than having to manhandle the bike around.
I recently purchased an Ultra Bee as a local dealer was liquidating them. I'm a 59 year old recreational rider. Yesterday I went riding with a buddy and swapped rides for his Beta 200RR.
I loved the Beta and he loved the Ultra to the point we were both thinking of adding each one to our collections.
I couldn't be happier with the Ultra, I ride so many challenging trails/ lines that I wouldn't dare ride with my WR250R.
Ultra was a demo with 114 km for $5000 CDN so it was hard to wait for upcoming releases but may still consider an upgrade in the future.
Where abouts did you buy it?
@@e75short14 Local dealer was getting out of selling all ebikes, wasn't going well for them. Nothing left now unfortunately.
i love your videos Ash. Please keep making them. im just getting into motos and have a yz 250 2 stroke its a beast. i watch all your vids
They're a specialized machine made for a racetrack in which you know how far you're going and have a generator nearby. Just have to remember there's no flexibility with this bike. You can double your range on a petrol bike simply by carrying some fuel in a pack or swapping over to a long-range tank. If you buy the Stark and decide you want to do a bit of back country exploring, ride a slightly longer route than usual, or ride high load terrain such as the dunes you're basically screwed.
That just comes with understanding what you’re getting. No bike is perfect for every rider and type of riding, and if you buy any bike without understanding what its strengths are you’re setting up for disappointment. It is an incredibly fun bike and for many riders like myself it can hand out more than enough trail time on a single charge to go home plenty tired.
@@icantdrift OfCourse, that's why electric bikes aren't more popular. They're one trick ponies. If you understand that, you'll be fine.
Love the video just have to say- Stark isn’t about being green. Imo. This is a toy not a daily driver. This is meant to have fun, just like having 80hp. Nobody… Nobody needs an 80hp dirt bike but it freaking rips so why not. And why is the conversation always centered around a stark owner only having a stark. Or just one dirt bike. Why doesn’t anybody imagine a person who owns multiple dirt bikes, and one of them happens to be electric. Not being rude but it is something I see.
It’s popular to universally hate all electric vehicles based on various political beliefs, especially in the USA. Nobody buys the Stark to “go green” but it’s the only thing people can really use to crap on it. The bike is great to ride and incredibly quick and while I also own a Beta 300RR, I keep finding myself taking the Stark to the trails.
BRO you GOTTA make one of those videos you did about eli tomac and herlings again. This time last weekend herlings raced in lommel. Conciderd one of the toughest tracks in the MXGP. PURE sand. prado had a 19 sec lead with only 4 min left to race. Herlings did 5 sec a lap quicker and passed prado winning with a 9 second lead unbelievable
Absolutely, that was his best work and why I subbed!!
I’m curious how much gas was used in the generator for your day out? How does it compare to the volume of gas used in your primary gas bike?
Great video!
I can tell you one thing for sure: not a SINGLE rider purchases this bike to "go green", so the petrol generator doesn't defeat the purpose. They buy it because it's unique, fun to ride, and extremely powerful 🙂
Great vid man. Our biggest problem in Colorado is the desire to ride 80-100 mile loops. It’s coming back
Yeah it's a stay close to the truck bike for sure. To be fair though they categorize it as a motocross bike and petrol motocross bikes go maybe a bit further, but not that much
@@ashsowman For sure
Loving the locks ash bet ya throw a few people off when the helmet comes off 😂 mean as video as always keep it up!
Imagine how good they are gonna be when they get solid state battery's
Watching your videos from Aus and I absolutely love them! Gotta keep up the videos monthly my friend! 🤝
wish these videos were longer but you get what you get, great video again ash excited for the next one
Hey Ash, I'm an Aussie actually travelling in NZ on holidays watching this vid, beautiful country my friend!
On the Stark, I reckon a better choice will be the Flux Primo for several key reasons over the Stark.
It is an Enduro bike first of all and will be able to have rego.
It has KYB suspension tuned for Enduro riding.
The LH lever operates as both an 'electronic clutch' if pulled with throttle on, and then a re-gen rear brake if pulled with a closed throttle.
One of the most important features is the swappable battery, meaning you could race it like a petrol bike if you can afford the second battery.
Should be a cool thing to keep an eye on 👍
Love your videos bro, for now I'll probably rewatch a few of your OG videos. Keep em coming!!
I can appreciate the Stark Vark, I think it will have it's place, plus it's so crazy hearing your own tire noise. Personally I love a good old two stroke but it doesn't mean I couldn't appreciate both
nice, short, and sweet vid ash... cant wait for more vids. Do you still have your WR? and would you be doing more ridding because I miss those videos. Anyways keep it up Ash love the vids
It basically comes down to rider weight, it you're a bit on the heavy side, range will be an issue, if you're a featherweight, it's quite different. Very interesting that you're done in about the same time as the battery is.
I've been begging to go to the August 10th berm buster bit calving makes it a bit too busy
Dude I can finally put a face to the voice. Love your vids man
I still want a Honda XR400R. I would love to see a real modern version of that bike. I know they have the CRF250F but I'm too tall for that bike
By far the best vids on RUclips
Remember that consolidating the source of power is also a huge efficiency benefit. So if loads of people have electric vehicles they would all share a common power source that is much more efficient than a bunch of different gas engines.
I really hope dirt bike yt channels stop turning into Stark Varg content.
Awesome vid thanks for the run down ..
Stark,s Enduro model when released will be great.
Looks like a great event did it feel heavy?
Nah it didn't. Imo inertia is most of what makes a bike feel heavy, that's why a 4t can sometimes feel heaver than a 2t that actually weighs more. This thing has even less inertia than a 2t so feels light on its feet - Less so when you go to pick it up whilst gingerly avoiding the throttle which is primed and ready to send it to the moon 😂
how is the ktm killer going? still running? any update video to come?
awesome dude loving the videos
I get 45 mins-1 hr on mx track depending on surface . Trails I can do 60km and about 2.5 hours if the trails are slow and tight. 1.5 hours in faster sandy trails
I still think electric bikes, even off-road ones, are a gimmick and rich man's toy. I don't believe they will get much better any time soon... even Tesla's development is at a snails pace.
And as for charging up with a gas generator - what's the point ???
True.
Most electric vehicle manufacturers are just doing the bare minimum development so they keep getting government subsidies and tax breaks
You're exactly correct and I wish people could figure that out on thier own. Unfortunately they're brainwashed by the media. If they were to ever see an actual mine where the minerals are dug up in pits hundreds of feet deep, with people that work in terrible/slave labor conditions, maybe they'd change their way of thinking, but you won't see that on TV. Too many sheep in this world...
@@HootMaRoot No different than our politicians pushing useless things on us only because their donors make them. Each person in the senate/congress have an AIPAC handler, and that's who tells them how to vote. No wonder we can't understand why 300 out of 320 members vote to give billions to Ukraine or Israel; say anything about it and you're antisemetic. I wish I didn't know any of this crap...
I put my deposit down for one years ago, but when the email finally came to pay up and get my new Stark, I bought a new 24' 300xc-w instead. Honestly can't stand hearing about the Stark anymore. Every time I see one I roll my eyes lol. All the marketing hype, "I beat gas bikes on an electric dirt bike" hype, and virtue signaling fatigue is fully set in for me.
Stark still sends me an email every few weeks asking if I'm ready for my new varg (after first threatening to lose my place in the production line if I didn't pay). Look I have 3 race bikes in my garage and it's like a full time job to train and maintain them in between races. A bike like a stark is something I could never race as an XC and enduro racer, and it would just be a fun novelty like a pit bike or a crotch rocket. I can't be forking out KTM 450 factory edition with custom suspension prices for that. I suspect you'll see mostly financially well-off older vets riding these things, like adventure bike riders. Those older cool dudes that show up at the races in a $300,000 custom camper van that looks ready for the apocalypse to race their anodized orange billet aluminum everything KTM in sportsman's class.
Then eventually once the masses catch on to the fact that there are silent electric dirt bikes, noisy gas bikes will be banned at pretty much every track and off road riding area. More stringent environment action plan commitments from our politicians will mean these types of vehicles will start to receive pre-programmed limits how much time or distance and even where you can ride them, which will be easy to implement because they're already connected. They can be easily limited by government directly through the manufacturer, much like drones are regulated today with altitude ceilings and disabled take-off in restricted geo-zones. Updated periodically with the latest limits via firmware updates. Not to mention full "flight record" of everywhere you've ever been via gps and what your speed was etc.
The masses will pat themselves on the back for doing the right thing for the environment. Meanwhile the energy and manufacturing industries will continue to pump out 97% of the worlds pollution and continue to profit off us idiot monkeys on our restricted electric cars and motorcycles. All of us riders will reminisce about the good ol' days of real bikes...
The old rich man point resonates with me. A few guys in my town are loggers who bought property here in the 2000's when we didn't have a highway and you could get a 3bd house for 100K. Now those houses are worth +2M and these boys are spending it with fury. This crew all bought Surrons initially and now they're on the list for Starks. They only bought em because one got a Tesla and fell in love with electric motors. He also has a 1 ton despite being retired. He's as far from an environmentally conscious person as you can get. They don't ride for long enough for battery life to be a problem. I think there are buyers for electric vehicles that are buying them because electric motors are super fun.
I don't know about the restrictions though. I think you might be giving politicians too much credit, they don't care what the masses are yelling about. In America, they won't ban vehicles with internal combustion motors until the biggest American companies won't be affected. Could you imagine if there was a federal ban on ICE vehicles within any impactful timeline, it would shrink the GDP massively. No, they will continue to make Executive Orders like the Biden admin's ban on ICE vehicles by 2035. I don't believe that congress will pass anything that could genuinely hurt the American automotive industry. This is how politicians appease the public, they create the perception that something is going to change, but in such a way that nothing actually changes. We fight about it on social media using the least amount of nuance possible, and they keep doing the same shit. The cycle continues.
As for the GPS tracking, I wouldn't be surprised if that's already happening with bikes, electric or not. Selling user data is free money. I'm more surprised when a company isn't collecting an obscene amount of data. Car companies are already collecting an metric-fuck-tonne amount of data from cars: foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/what-data-does-my-car-collect-about-me-and-where-does-it-go/#where-does-all-the-data-go
I think the real danger to consumers is a lack of right-to-repair laws. I think it's more likely that we end up with products that are impossible to own outright, similar to John Deere in Canada today. You can buy the equipment, but if you don't update your software, your tractor won't connect to your baler properly. Only John Deere dealers can perform that update, and it's not cheap. Or Apple phones, if you take 2 brand new iphones, and you swap the battery from one to the other, both phones will become bricks. Or when your Jeep Cherokee has a tranny issue and the tranny is a sealed unit, Stellantis won't even fix it for you, you must buy a reman tranny and only a dealer can install it or the ECU shits a brick.
The masses won't get what they want, they will get enough to believe that their interests are considered, but no policy will ever pass that will hurt GDP significantly. Economy > people
Virtue signally ? Do you have any examples of this ? Sounds like you just made that one up in your own head
@@Ozfreerider2504 Are you kidding? There are dozens of channels of guys adamant that electric bikes are the future and far superior to gas etc, always throwing in little virtue signaling licks in their videos. Goes clear back at least ten years to the freeride E, and the alta, probably even before that. 🤷🏻♂️
@@jetmuchacho how is saying something is better “ virtue signalling “ do you even know what that term means ? There’s a reason prime saying they better , because they are !!! Every person who’s ridden mine has been mine blown by it . One guy who rode mine is old school guy who hung shit on me for 12 months about getting one , he rode it and had a smile ear to ear. Hit first words were “fuck that’s fast “ and then went on to tell everyone how awsome it was . So yeah there’s a reason people say it
@@petlemons what the fuck was that long ass stupid rant of your even about ?
So you used just as much petrol in your generator as you would in your petrol enduro bike ,does anyone see the irony in that ??
Petroleum products were used extensively to create the Stark Varg from mineral/oil deposits etc. Generators are just a small extension.
Atmospheric CO2 is great FWIW. I wish we had more of it.
Daaaaaaaaaang son, check out those locks!!!
Upload time 🤘🏼
Gotta take in consideration that it's muddy and you're rear tire is spinning more than it would if it was drier, so it's using more battery.
Cheers ash looking good mate 🤘🏼
Hi Ash, couple of questions,
1. Do you know if the bike had crawl and reverse crawl available? just with the latest update that brought out those 2 features Stark have managed to get 10% more out of the battery and they've made it track better which produces better lap times, according to their material. N.B. Getting over the air updates for the bike is straight forward and pretty good that they can keep improving the bike after you already have it.
2. When you were talking about the brightness of the display did you see the display actually has a night mode that does the white writing on black background to reduce the brightness of the screen?
I have one of these bikes, got it in April, I love it. With no gears they are easier to ride so you can spend more time thinking about line selection and body positioning etc, and with the quiet engine I can ride it around the lawn in suburbia and not annoy anyone. My lawn's seen better days though haha.
If you want to see it, I did a vid of it a while back, particularly because Got Speed Media did an awesome graphics kit for it.
Nice mate! Not sure about the update, this was a demo bike not my own. It did have a flashing light on the mode switch tho which I'm told means there's an update available so maybe not
No noise, no smell, no character, no point. On a positive note, that place holds some real similarities with Mick Extances place in Wales.
Hey mate, love you videos, wondering if you still ride your wr250f much anymore, I love watching your videos of you riding it, would you ever think about starting a second channel of just raw go pro clips from you riding without all the professional video editing, also how many hours have you got on you wr over the last 2 years. Love the videos anyway, great mate
Somewhat interesting video. The most glaring omission was you never mentioned what power level you were riding in. I can’t imagine wanting more than 40 hp setting with all that mud. Also, you weren’t very clear on how much time and range you got out of how much battery percentage. At the beginning of the ride, I believe you mentioned very quickly that you’d used 40% battery in a half an hour, which kind of sucks. Any other trail rider would not consider that passable for an “every day bike“. Just my two cents, thanks
I was using about 15% charge per 10 mins of riding. 48hp
Really interesting to see how it went! I might start riding again and go electric at 59. I do e mountain bike and miss a throttle 😅
I wonder if it would be possible to spend another $10-15K on a 25-20kWh battery bank you could charge at home and keep in your van to charge the bike with? Assuming one felt terribly concerned about being as green as possible. Alternately, could you use an electric truck to haul the bike to the trails and then charge the bike form the truck's batteries? Would be a pretty cool setup if it worked
I posted a generator question in a Stark group and a guy in the US said he was using his Rivian to charge his bike and it worked great
This is what China is doing with cars. You pull in, get out of the vehicle, and the battery is exchanged autiomatically for a new one in about 20 minutes. If it detects any issues, the battery is removed and taken out for service. It's faster and more practical for the average electric vehicle owner. I would despise waiting in line only to then have to wait for my battery to charge. They haven't figured this out yet, and it's not green and it does terrible damage to our environment. Yet they shove it down our throats while car makers are losing money making them; people don't want them, they are not convenient, nor is the motocross bike...
Thanks for doing this video! I've been looking for some kind of review like this. My trail rides are longer, like hour or two hour without coming back to home base, so I'm not entirely sure it would work for me, but maybe adjusting the way I ride would make it a possibility. My other curiosity about the bike comes down to long term reliability. I currently ride a 19 year old YZ250, and the thing runs as good as it did when it was new. I also think about the fact that if something breaks or needs to be rebuilt on the YZ, it's no problem - parts are plentiful and cheap. What does a 10 or 20 year old Stark look like I wonder?
It looks like beer cans made of 100% recycled materials lol
The good thing about generators are that they are more efficient than the engine in any dirt bike so I believe it would still be more eco friendly
No so.
Only benefit to riding/owning one in my opinion is the lack of maintenance
How much hp did you have it set to
Looks like he was on level 2, which I think is 40hp
Thanks mate
How much for a new battery though? How about parts?
Parts are on par with any other bike but a battery is $5500 (Australian) so Probbaly 3000 usd . But battery should last 500 hours riding
One thing I either missed or wasn't answered was how long did your laps last? Essentially I'm wondering what the ride time to charge time ratio was.
I was using about 15% battery per 10 mins of riding
New do . It makes your “head over heat “while riding . Ask Malcom Stewart .
Great job, a Stark in NZ conditions. Admittedly not my cup of tea, too heavy and overkill for my riding, as would be a 300cc 2t. I'm waiting for Yamaha to release their leccy trials bike, that's way more up my street.
Interesting video
Long time no see young man you living up north now? Hope all is well
Hey Jase! Yeah I am, flick me and email if you feel like it would be good to catch up
@@ashsowman yea man will do I'll be in touch
The ground over there y'all have must be like concrete, because if you'd done that North Carolina 2000 riders, it would have been 5 foot deep of mud, you couldn't even have kept riding on the same trail. Y'all straight looked like we had fififty riders go down the trail one time !
There’s a company selling EV conversion swaps and they have a quick change battery. This is something that is critical to the adoption of electric dirtbikes
Yooo what happen to yamaha two-stroke video???
Ehhhh a petrol generator is still or atleast has the potential to be heaps better for the enviroment than running a bike.
It can be optimized for fuel economy, low CO2 emissions, low other emissions (particulates, heavy metals etc), longevity and low maintenance.
I am one of the guys that won’t buy on but they are starting to be pretty Kool but I still won’t buy one
I wonder how much a replacement 'bright lcd' screen would cost? Really interesting, thanks for the review
i bet his buddy on the ktm used about half a tank.
Where did the KTM killer go?
Im all for electric, but having to run a generator to charge it after a bit seems so backwards. Maybe another 10 years .
You could get more batteries to bad its not made for easy battery swaps
their site says "ride time 6 hours", not "racing time: 6 hours", but either way it's an exagerration
Yeah, a lot of Tesla-style bs marketing numbers surrounding this thing 😤
@@ashsowman I think the torque is Bs. I saw a video of a turbocharged 450 putting out about 160nm torque to the ground and it popped a wheelie everytime you shifted up. If the stark actually had 986 nm (6 times the torque) you would instantly be thrown off and the bike would always wheelie no matter what. Maybe close like 200nm but still def not what they say. It also got 67 rwhp (rear wheel horsepower) on a dyno IN 80 HP MODE. The 450 with the turbo made 82.5 so if we can inigrate that power in the future gas bikes def won't be gone.
How long does your phone last? How long does your car run? how long does your go pro last! How long can you go without taking a piss? It all depends on what you're doing with it, Usage is unique to each rider, wouldn't you say? so can this question really be answered? Use the thing between your ears!
It's like riding trails with a 5 litre tank, works great as long as you can get back to the truck every hour, but pretty risky... Better hope you don't take a wrong turn! Also, hauling a generator out everytime you go ride? Pass.
Fun as it may be, for most people it still isn't an option. The bike itself is around $20,000 aud and to have the setup there to have multiple rides per day also includes I'd guess at least a 10kw generator running on petrol or diesel which will cost you another 6-10k plus fuel to charge it in half to one hour breaks. So you're at 30k plus ongoing fuel costs and have to haul a generator everywhere you go to complete the most basic of rides. Race teams may be able to wear that but your average rider has no chance.
How long would it take to catch on fire 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah petrol stuff never catches on fire 😉
BRO YOUR hair grow long as hell
Yep, think I’m going to stick to gas bikes 😂
Most bikes look slow on film that looks fast
⭐Churrr Much⭐
he looks like god bruh
Does it still use a clutch?
nope you have to use the breaks
people have tried to tell me there's no point of a clutch
but its not the same at all, no where near. not saying its better or worse.
but I'd prefer one
@je7647 ah OK. So on the handlebars are levers for front and rear brakes?
@@P2DAPIPE yeap the back break is just where the clutch usually would be, a lot of people who ride mx prefer the foot break but im mostly a trials or street rider so its not a problem for me.
the alta had a clutch and I wish the varg did in some sense tho, it makes a difference
The petrol generator makes the bike pointless
Not watched your channel for a couple years wtf is that mop on your head
It will never be realistic or logical, electric vehicles of any kind aren't and won't ever, for several reasons. They are lame and lifeless as well, and no character to them like gasoline vehicles or internal combustion engined rigs of any type. Electric is not the answer.
Cool hair
Electric dirt bikes are lame
Not as lame as your existence
Steam power is the way to go
Why man they got control power and they last without maintenence
The only problem are batteries but that is humanity's fault for not researching them as much as oil industry
Sounds like someone can’t afford one ;)
@@tehsnoik5835 true fact
I don't know about electric dirt bikes, but your haircut definitely doesn't work...
Great takeaway, who cares dude
I hate them
Those lithium batteries are a potential death trap
They are only a problem when the car or bike doesn't have a good monitoring system for them and a way to disconnect bad cells. But I could see motocross being a lot more expensive on electric as a new battery pack each season costing a lot more than all the petrol used over a season
@@HootMaRoot drop that battery on a pointy rock and it will be a puddle of grey plastic in about 3 mins
@@b45her it all depends on the type of battery lipo pouches in it yes, lifepo4 it's a lot harder to make them go out with a bang unless they are highly abused
They may have their place but it won't be at mine! They sound gay as aids, can't realistically do a trailride, xc or hard enduro and will have no re sale value in a couple of years. Thanks for the review tho!👍
Eddie Carlson won an extreme enduro with 2.5 hour ride time . Entire video is on RUclips. You say stay will have no resale value ? What value does a gas bike have ? After 3 years they are worth 50% of their starting price and need a rebuild !! Stark in theory should do 500+ hours maintenance free
I will never buy an EV anything.
That takes too long to charge , mean while burning fuel for the generator, what is the point?
This womans voice is rather deep
Same f Shaun White a while ago.