What went wrong with the Deer Park pipeline fire?
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- As we enter the third day of the Deer Park pipeline still burning, Jaime Galloway of Deer Park Emergency Services shares some insight on why it's still burning and what is taking so long for them to investigate.
The one thing they haven't discussed is why the HELL didn't the pipeline have BOLLARDS installed around the valve head that close to the highway. A chainlink fence is install just to keep out people not vehicles. We put up BOLLARDS to stop cars from running into convivence stores. we install them to stop cars from running into hospitals. So why the heck couldn't they have installed them around the valve, its not like the pipeline company couldn't afford it.
Amen !!!
Don’t remember the last time I seen them at a convenience store.
@@gbpg2016 Well then you must be going around with your eyes shut, They have them at the gas pumps also, they have them around signal boxes at intersections.
@@gbpg2016 Wal Mart has them, as well as 7-11's.
We used them at all the trouble areas at the car washes we used to build. Even the dumpster got them.
Title doesn't go with content. Nothing went wrong, a car ran into a high-pressure natural gas valve and it caught on fire
Problem is that valve turns gad on and off and if its damaged, you have to find the next 2 valves
One between main pump station to stop flow coming towards broken valve, and next valve pass this one to stop gas from flowing backwards. These may be many(100 or more) miles apart, and I think these pipelines are operating at a high pressure, so it takes time to shut valves off and pressure to bleed down. I would consider this a trial run for terriost attack.
The more miles between control points the less it costs to operate the pipelines.. What could go wrong?
Worst situation would be putting fire out ,blessing that line caught fire immediately, this situation could have been Soso much worse if not caught fire, could had a fireball a half a mile wide burning and killing people past Walmart area, angels were looking down,even a atmosphere explosion could have damaged properties for miles away, far more worse ways this could have went down, what happened was the lesser evil i assure you,only other way to limit this situation for prolonged would be in high population areas add more valves in line on outskirts of population areas to shorten the off gasing of line to a couple of hours and purge taps with more than a fence area and large cement blocks
Facts!!! If no immediate fire, the fumes would have spread to an ignition source and KABOOM!!!
yep when it in the atmosphere it kinda like fog one ignition and it would be a mess. why were there not barricades around that thing
There was a pipeline leak in a valley in he USSR along a railway.. The flows were monitored and controlled manually by a worker.... the upstream guy saw the pressure drop ( due to the leak) and mistakenly turned up the flow... but what he did was fill the valley with gas...... then a train full of school children came into the valley and a spark or something caused the valley to detonate. I think this was in the late 70s
Coulda had a crude geyser twice as high as the flames too, roaring away for days depending on the line...
All these pipes should have emergency shutoff down line. Another example of amateur hour bs in the Houston area. Everything’s better in TX huh?
Isn't it a colossal mistake to have the plant and residential neighborhood on a border that complicates the response?
Why not redistrict one or the other?
Simple safety standard were not in place.
Say a lot about American loyalty.
If they're the 'first responders' why do they always arrive after the first people to try to help?
Why doesn't the owner/operator of this pipeline have effective management solutions? Leak detection and runaway flow sensors should have done most of this work automatically.
Where is the driver of the SUV?
Hindsight is 20/20
So, what went wrong?
"Purge with Nitrogen" I was wondering if they could do that. Makes sense after its clamped off the volumes will be feasible.... But why not have Ai controlled pressure management systems with built in underground check valves. Real fences along the right of ways and big blocks of granite obstructing above ground equipment would kinda make sense too.
Engery transfer you m3an centre city
the driver of the suv is dead
3 days? Fire him
Not his fault!
There is a TWENTY-MILE TWENTY-INCH PIPE full of high pressure to be burned off. Real life is not like the movies with a happy-ending in 90 minutes. Maybe put shut-off valves every 5 miles?
Shut, Foo
Three days burning? Some body on vacation, asleep at the wheel? Who was the driver, condition? Where was the gas going, where was it from? Where's RED ADAIR, JOHN WAYNE TO PUT OUT THIS WELL FIRE? RAILROAD COMMISSION AND REPUBLICANS DROPPED THE BALL. SHOULD HAVE AUTOMATICALLY CLOSED A VALVE WHEN PRESSURE IS LOST. THEY LET THIS COMPANY SLIDE FOR A LONG WHILE. AIN'T NO PIPELINES IN AUSTIN?
LOL Doug there are ALL kinds of pipelines in Austin you are sadly mistaken if you think there aren't. The company did close the valves as soon as they knew, you don't realize how much pressure and volume there is in that pipeline. Just because you don't know where its coming from or going to doesn't mean the people in charge don't. Both John Wayne and Red Adair have passed away. Neither of them put out pipeline fires. It is common/best practice to allow the product to burn off, less environmental damage.
I'll tell you what went wrong, somebody high up in the oil and gas industry got tired of gas prices going down
This has NOTHING to do with gas prices....people like you should not be allowed to speak...
No plan call in feds
Yeah, the same Feds that let in all the illegals? The same Fed that wants a Marxist elected?
The same Feds that weaponized all of the three-letter-agencies? Those Feds?
Gimme a Break.....
Electric cars don’t burn that long.
Boom
Whadya mean "What went wrong?" Nothing, if you look at the evidence. Out of control vehicle strays across open field, strikes weak chain link fence and shears a valve off on a high-pressure pipeline. Said impact generates sparks that ignites spewing gas and bang! Quit over-complicating a simple incident and begin protective measures to bolster perimeter defense around other similar valve sites, especially given the number of pipelines that snake through the Houston area.
And why is letting it burn off a good option? Well Red Adair is no longer with us.
Red Adair did not work on natural gas pipelines. He worked on oil wells. But thanks for revealing your ignorance to the world.
Do you think it’s better to have 1,600,000 gallons of LPG escape the pipeline into the streets?
@@gbpg2016Remind everyone what happens when 1,600,000 gallons of LPG is released onto the streets.
Has anyone asked why a second explosion can’t be used to suffocate the fire?
They don't want to vent kilotons of fuel over a residential neighborhood.
You don't want to put the fire out. The source apperently is already shut off, they are just letting the fuel burn off.
not possible in this instance. Remember, the pipeline had gas flowing through it at high velocity. Combined with the extremely high pressure. Again that’s why they have to let it burn out. Even though they have emergency shutoffs on both sides of the pipe, in between that, there’s a lot of gas in the line, still flowing. Ignites… no way to stop until it all flows out… burns out. That’s why it’s not an ideal alternative, but it is the safest in lieu of the dire situation.
@@nozrep - The video says no "stoppels" ... and I guess the gas is still flowing ... at 1m33s he says Energy Transfer _hasn't_ shut the line off ... what "emergency values"? ...
Donnie, is that you?