Greeting Warren, I really connected with the bit about "working with the musicians in the room" vs trying to track alone. That's been a profound obstacle for me lately, especially since the isolation of lockdown. My biggest strengths have always been of a collaborative nature. Sensing the sway and groove. Understanding when to play supportively in the pocket, and when to let loose and shine. Probably due to me performing as a drummer first, then as a bassist more professionally. The big thing I struggle with most now is that pre cognition you referred to. I've grown soo accustomed to being the "clock" or the "glue" for soo many years, that's it's frustratingly difficult to recreate that in isolation. Without another soul to "vibe" from. I'll now find myself frequently merely picking up a guitar, or sit behind a piano and just peck & noodle around without accomplishing what I know I can, and spending up precious time doing it. After watching this it just dawned on me. Eureka! Perhaps I've been going on about this in the wrong order all this time. I should play to my strengths. Be that "clock & glue" FIRST with the drums & the bass, thusly provide my own sway, groove, and soul to THEN vibe from with everything else! Brilliant! Thank you soo much Warren! I seriously needed to hear it explained that way! Cheers!!
Hi Warren!! I need some advice with this issue ive had a couple times, im pretty sure you've been in the same situation: As a producer, what do you do or how do you make the artist understand that some of their strongests requirements for this song you are producing (that is going to have your name and studio name as official credits as well) will make it sound less professional or just not as good, for ex. not tuning/editing their vocals even though they are not really good singers, or making the song so long that could become boring for almost everyone or not being open-minded to little things that could make their song even better like some ear candy. Of course this will not apply in every genre but I produce and mix Pop music mostly so I think you get my point. Thank you, Warren, big hug from Peru :D
thank you for sharing your love of music with us. we all want to vibrate and be excited by sincere artists and adventurous producers. a Friday question. how to deal with the singer :) merci
is there any uses for post-fader inserts on individual tracks ? Saying this in the sense of riding the fader to affect the compressor ,so the more you push the fader the more compression you have as a result as oppose to having pre-fader inserts which obviously the fader won't have any effect on the compressed signal . Thanks in advance and I wish you having a great day .
Warren, your integrity, honesty, transparency has never or will ever be in question. You’ve made such a remarkable contribution & I can say you’re one of the most trustworthy sources of information on the web! Keep up the great work & keep doing that thing you do!
Appreciate your transparency but personally, your integrity as a content creator has never been in question for me. You have given so much back to the community for free and it has all been valuable information that I am grateful for. I seem to be impervious to product placement. I buy something because I know it's good. Not because someone else said it's good or has it sitting in a corner of the shot. And if I'm not familiar with the product, then I research it first. Thanks for everything you've given back over the years. Some people have no idea how impossible this information would have been to obtain even 10 years ago.
Wow! Thanks ever so much Xeridae! That means so much to me! I love being able to make these videos, focus on great music and try my darnedest to dispel elitism and superior thinking! Music is made by passionate people, who love what they do, the ONLY real qualification is that love we all share!
100% agree as well. The extra steps of adding "Paid Presentation" _and_ explaining it at length here puts Warren two steps ahead in the ethics and honesty departments than he needs to be, by my math. Above and beyond seems par for the course with our friend here. 🍻
I’m not a musician and have absolutely no connection to the industry whatsoever but, love the videos, really interesting stuff. So glad I stumbled across your channel whilst searching for something else completely. Thank you.
We bought our set of Kali monitors because they were on both yours and pensados desks for a few months. The logic was "if they're good enough for them."
I *just* got a set of Kali LP-6s for my home studio and my god do they punch above their price point. Wonderfully balanced and the stereo image in my not acoustically great room is wonderful. Just hope they hold up because I’m never going to want to not have them haha
11:19 I've been working a lot with other artists lately. Sometimes I'll build a track and then give it to them and have them re-record parts. What you've described is exactly what I've experienced. If I build the track and end up using most of my own performance, I will build the track around 1-3 parts (vocals, guitar, or vocals and piano, etc). But If I get their rendition back and they've changed the feel of the track, I will strip it back down to its bare essence, and I will build it back up again with their recordings. One artists ends up adding several synths and piano elements which change the feel. But If I strip it back down, I can still use their feel but focus it more and turn it a little more in a direction that I want. Sometimes it ends up being better than if I did it just myself. And I will often add my own elements that compliment their rendition. I'm loving it.
I have a The Paul, 1980. My first real guitar. Had it re-fretted about 2 years ago the luthier said it was a pleasure to work on it. I love it and it plays, like yours, superbly. My friend sold it to my in 1987 for £165 as he wanted the money for something else. I'll never let it go.
First of all, thank you for giving all this incredible information for free, and with a smile. I always thought, about your "branded" videos (plugins, hardware, etc.) that they were more like "If you have the idea to buy this plugin, well here's how you can get the most out of it" demonstrations. It's good that you're clarifying the theme, a kind of statement. That's cool. I have never doubted your integrity (for the record).
Dang man. Everything you talked about makes so much sense from songwriting to the community. You probably have no idea how inspiring you truly are👊 most epic producer to date!
You were super early on the Kali game, Warren. Thanks again for sharing them with us all. I've had a pair of LP-8's for a little over a year now, and they haven't let me down yet. Instantly made a big positive impact on my mixes. Great stuff!
Wow! I really think you should turn this into four videos: 1) Plugins I love. 2) Why audio production requires vision. 3) My position on sponsorship and free gear. 4) The best gear is affordable. I'll admit I came for topic #1, but found the most value in topics 2-4. I never doubted your integrity, but did wonder if you'd been incentivized to have a certain opinion in a recent video. I no longer wonder, but, as you obviously know, that's why topic #3 deserves its own video.
Sir Warren, your diatribe about consumer corporate slavery is honest, and self evident. TYVM for candid clarity. We are all consumers, we can't avoid that as Western capitalists, or we'd all be playing reed flutes, shakuhatchis, and beating on logs. But that would be music too! Your integrity has RISEN.
I think it's ok to advertise as long as there is some give and take, so to speak. That Pedal Show is one long advertisement for the Gig Rig and I love every second of it. They give more than they get and so do you Warren. Your video on vocal production spun me into hours blissful experimentation that I am grateful for.
Yeah, with the paid notification thing, too many act like they love some new piece of gear and it's the best thing ever, but then you never see it again. Makes it hard to take that seriously. I appreciate that you spell out so many things. Maybe you wouldn't talk about things you don't like, but not everyone is that way, and it's hard to always suss that out. Peavey T series is awesome! Thanks, Warren.
There’s no way I’m going to make any comment critical or otherwise regarding your process. I wouldn’t even dream of comparing how my mind works to yours, you’re a highly talented and acclaimed producer. I am a nobody with next to no skill in the audio realm
Warren, I liked your comments about the essence of the song vs. ear candy. It resonates with a lot of what I learned when I was studying composition...this idea of being deliberate with voicings and having a really good reason any time you want to have two instruments sounding the same note. I'm definitely still learning how a focused production from the ground up makes everything come together easier. My thanks to you as always for sharing your valuable wisdom and perspective!
This is still one of the best channels about music production, learned a lot here in the last year when I started to follow you guys. Keep up the good work. What about mixing a production, it's hard to understand where some producers want to go to, with a song. Tracking here is impossible, so I have to rely on outhouse recordings. And most of the producers giving me extra info. To get us on the same page. I'm not earning money, but I'm addicted to music and keep me sane, and I love challenges. Thanks all.
I purchased the two plugin's Warren suggested. I bought one more and got 2 more for free. Then I went in and did a new mix I had just done that morning with the plugins - i found them to be amazing! I also got scheps plugin and I picked the abby road echo Chamber and a bass guitar plugin. The plugin MV2 Warren suggested found the kick drum and I could hear it. Rbass was also amazing transforming a muffy bass to a more pointed striker (well turning up that frequency that was naturally quite in the track) - to my ears the latest mix sounds best. Thank you Warren! You are a golden god!
Really appreciate your honesty and transparency about your relationship with the companies you work with. It’s sad that some can’t see that, if it’s good you talk about it, if it’s not you don’t. If people can’t work that out then shame on them not you. You encourage and inspire people, some don’t like that because they only have negativity. Don’t ever change.
I worked with Warren on a number of videos and promotions and everything he said is 100% true. This is why brands like ours work with Warren. There is zero chance of a brand working with somebody if there is no integrity. How to we vet for that? By their community and what warren has done for the whole community is astounding. I echo the call for this man to be protected.
Three to go anywhere: 1. 4000G channel would be my instant pick for a ‘stranded on an island’ scenario. Every time I touch it, it sounds great. Can’t leave that behind! 2. I don’t think I’ve done a single mix without the MV2 since I got it many years ago. It’s like having an assistant wherever I use it, replacing compression with an invisible hand. 3. H-Verb would probably suffice for my ‘just one’ reverb, especially as the island would afford me the endless hours to get what I need out of it. Stock Pro Tools plugs would easily cover the rest, and I’d probably make the best records of my life being isolated from all the fru-fru.
Thanks for great videos. Being a Swedish Beatles fan since I was 7 in 1975 I also want to thank you for the videos with Jerry Hammack. Did not know about his five books (Recording Reference Manual) before, but I just got all of them delivered :) They are great! Thanks again from a mad Beatle record collector and other music/former or current musician/audiophile and currently for the last 20 years, a brewer.
@@Producelikeapro Cheers! I know the feeling of how well those were built and sound. The gentlemen here let me play his '79. I was in a cover/jam band with him.
You’re far too kind! For me being good on guitar is nothing compared with being a great songwriter! Tom Petty said that if he had been a great guitarist he wouldn’t have been a great songwriter! Whatever your passion is follow it my friend!
Brilliant Warren, as always !!! Quote "Music is a celebration of Love, its a Celebration of Life, its Beautiful, its just a Celebration, it brings Us Together" Honesty is absolutely the only way to go. I Pray God continues to Bless, Protect, Inspire & Will You Warren & All Your Family & Loved Ones Always And Forever !!!
Super appreciate your honesty when it comes to gear, and your opinions thereof. Got the LP6 on your recommendation, and they've been absolutely killer for what I need. It's murky water, all this product placement/advertisement, and really good to know you stand by everything you show on the channel regardless of the relationship with the companies. Cheers!
I have to say your honesty and your great outlook are what drives me .. thanks. this is my escape to day to day stress of life. and you inspire. Cheers if you're ever in San Diego, there is always a cold one for you mate.
I didn’t know, somebody could share on YT what kind of profit people make from the presentations. Warren, you are the King, no secret, no tabu or something like this.
Correct me if I‘m wrong, but I used to own a Les Paul Firebrand . It was the same body as the „ The Paul“ but it had lots of little holes in it like it hasdbeen sandblasted.
I hope I can be one day close enough to buy you a beer, wine, whisky or whatever you fancy. You are one awesome person and teacher. Cheers from Madrid.
Warren I so wish you show everybody how good you can shred. It seems to me that you are an incredible guitarist. I would love to see you do a instrumental recording video with you shredding on guitar. Maybe a solo guitar tone video.
@@Producelikeapro I bought the vinyl last year, I love the album, but time has exposed it's flaws. Great marketing with album cover + the spoken intros!
It’s so true that recording well and intentionally is critical to getting a good mix. If your record with a vision and record well, the mix just comes together without a lot of effort. At least in my experience! Thanks for this video, I am always encouraged when I watch this stuff!
that last bit was really cool.Just the words i needed to hear. hey man you gotta add "see ya later" in your sign offs....thats what we say here. hey Scones ,if you read this , how cool was this episode.
I think the Rbass is still the best “sub boost” type plugin out there. There are others but I think the beauty of the Rbass is the simplicity. 3 controls
If I could buy only one plugin, it's probably Trackspacer. I use it only occasionally, but it's still my choice because I don't know of any acceptable free alternative to it. Any of the more basic stuff like EQ and compression, I'm perfectly fine with the stock Reaper effects or stuff like TDR Nova.
I have lots of the great channel strips including the omni chan and find them overwhelming to use. Sometimes I wanna just use that “thump” thing in the Omni, but also like the high end of the ssl eq, but think other stand alone compressors may be better choices than the ssl chan strip comps etc. my point is, in a digital modular world, don’t you think the idea of a hardware style “channel strip” is an obsolete idea? I know I’m wrong because I see the greatest engineers on the planet using them. I’m just confused why. Thanks 🙏
Yes, I like The Guitar Of The Day segment. Indeed, the stock plug-in in my two DAWs, StudioOne and FL Studio, go a LONG way for FX, dynamics, and instruments. So there is two plug-in that expand what is possible in my DAWs, Melodyne and VocAlign. Other plug-ins just do what I already have maybe better or easier. Seems to me anyway.
This is the first music related channel in RUclips that I subscibed years ago. It is still my favourite, it's pure class all the way. Reminds me of Bob Marley: "Let's get together and feel all right!" And yes, you should do a video about Bob! : )
Some great points there Warren. Funnily enough I totally agree with you about the Limiter it's my go to for vocals and Bass. There's times it's not acting as really anything other than a volume leveller. It's not actually shaving anything off the signal just acting as a transparent leveller. The other choice would be the Audiority Tube Modulator. It's cheap less than forty quid and is the best digital stab at the univibe feel I have so far heard in the box. I've no association with them at all just chuffed I've found something digital that does wibble with the bottom end intact. I'd love to know what you make of it Warren
Ive found that if you like a specific piece of gear, it makes it alot easier for me to fill my rack or arsenal of plugins or locker of mics or meter bridge with speakers. I dont listen to any other product reviews really because i know that if ypu say its good, then it is! So thanks warren for everything you do!
If I had to buy just one plugin to complement Ableton's default plugins, it would be a good quality fairly "transparent" compressor such as TDR Kotelnikov GE (the free version is great as well.). There are some excellent free mixing/mastering plugins out there. The TDR series is a great place to start.
MV2 is reeealyyy niiiceee! 🔥 🔥 🔥!!!! I thought the most expensive plugin, the better is and it worth to grab. BUT after this video I changed my mind! Waves gave me RBass at no cost (I was shoked.. I didn't believe first..) And now I'm on the way to purchase MV2, Vitamin and 1 plug they give free! A cool bargain, I suppose! Thanks to you I've found what I realy need!
Thanks for the transparency. The main cred RUclipsrs have with their viewers is integrity, so I'm sure if you didn't jive with a product, you'd just quietly send it back. Sponsored or partially sponsored videos do make life easier in RUclips land where ad revenue is spotty and unpredictable, at best :-)
The Scheps Omni Channel at Waves is currently 30 bucks, so not a huge risk there. Thanks for the recommendation on MV2 and R. Bass. This channel is bad for plugin addicts :-)
As always, many thanks 🙏🏼 Love your wisdom. At this point, you’re so embedded in the music education community (bc it IS...might as well be college), that I couldn’t help but reference you and a few others in a recent mix/production rundown I did. Had to laugh at how much you, Justin Colletti, Graham Cochran, Glenn Fricker, etc as well as CT locals like Vic Steffens (Horizon) have shaped all of my (our) considerations/skills/knowledge. Again, thank you very much. You’ve not only imparted practical, technical info, but you’ve maintained a position of creativity and fun so that we do t necessarily end up as your clone.
From watching PLAP, and through experience, I've learned that you can't "mix" your way into the final product and like it. I now have a vision. Maybe not the complete vision, but a pretty good idea of what I want. If you can't do a static mix, and maybe just add a little mix buss eq, a nice buss compressor, and tape emulation and have it sound pretty good, you're doing something wrong. As I perform all the instruments parts, I get the sounds as close to the final sound as I can. I will tweak and re-record every guitar track if the sound I have just isn't working. I play every track start to end. That goes for any instrument. If a deep snare would fit the track better than the higher pitched snare that I already recorded, I will re-record the drums. Get the sound right at the course. I learned that from you, and my production has become pretty darn good. BTW my 2 favorite mics -the Lewitt LCT 640 TS as my drum overhead is easy and amazing. Great on guitar cabs, too. Avantone CV-12 (C-12 emulation) is amazing on vocals, you should check that one out.
You covered a lot of ground on this vid. I don't mind the product placement that much personally. I surely don't get upset, lol. But I understand the need for transparency I suppose. As for the plugins, same here, use a lot of the stock, (reaper), plug-ins. Rea-eq everywhere. Their reverb as well. Why not? They just work! One or two ik and waves plugs plus a plug or two that do something oddball if needed. We keep things simple. As for instruments; I'd even use a hello-kitty strat if it sounded good., (confession - I have more than once, lol ),. Just glad there are no pictures. But that doesn't keep me from watching your reviews of new gear and software! Thanks for offering so much priceless info. When I started out decades ago no one in the town where I grew up, knew a thing about this stuff. I'd have thought I'd died and gone to heaven to have a resource like this youtube channel back then. Cheers and thanks.
Warren great Video as ever. I always have loved The Paul, outstanding guitars in effect it’s a custom with no frills. Ebony board Ttop pickups. I own one myself and a couple of firebrands. They often get bad press from the Gibson Snobs as they don’t fit that traditional button they tend to want to tick. In short if you buy a the 79 the Paul for a grand you get a whole stack of guitar for your cash. We have to consider a 79 custom is now fetching over 3k. I hope it’s still got it’s chainsaw case.
If I could only have 2 plugins I’d go with Izotope’s Neutron and Plugin Alliance’s 4000 (whichever letter was the one that came second) console. I have over 100 non-instrument plugins and I use Neutron and the SSL strip for like 60% of what I do. (with the next 20% being reverbs, delays, and modulation and the remainder being miscellaneous eqs, compressors, and utility plugins)
It's not unusual for me to think of a song that really grabs me with their groove and I want to create my own song with a similar groove, and away I go! Ha ha!
For Question 1: I have a band that I mix 2 to 3 original songs for each month (typically one out of three has commercial value). They record directly to an SD drive from their console. When I first started working with them, I asked if they could send me a rough mix of a couple songs. They said, "we don't know how to mix... that's what we're paying you for." So I sent them three different mixes in their genre (pop/rock) of the same song. I asked which they prefer. They said they like each, and couldn't decide on a favorite. That is when I really became their producer, not a mix engineer. Since then, the process is the same. They send me about 24 tracks (10 drums mics, Electric bass (DI and Amp mic), 1 to 2 acoustic DI, 1 electric (Stereo from Helix), Click track, Stereo keyboard, Male lead and 2 to 3 Female vocals, and Stereo room mics). They record each song several times and make notes as to their best live performance (no overdubs or punch-ins). Because we live in different states, I can't just drive over to their sessions, so we spend a lot of time on Zoom discussing each song. My mix process is to understand who wrote the song, and which instrument he wrote it on. That becomes the main instrument for the that song, and everything else works around that. Often in the mix process I will copy different parts from one take and insert it into my final session. On almost all songs, I add additional keyboard parts (virtual instruments from techno synths and loops to orchestra) to fill in the 'holes' of the song and help it sound more complete. When I sent them my first couple productions, they were blown away, and had no idea their 'little' songs could sound so good. We hope to have enough material by fall to produce an LP.
Thanks for sharing your process on recording and the background story of your RUclips career, wonderful motivation and 100% accomplished! This channel is the best source with the best vibes & tips about music production 🤘 And this Les Paul sounds just tasty haha
What is that piece of rack gear at the bottom of the rack with the Pultec’s in it (on your right in this video)? Almost looks like a receiver/amplifier?
I have had dozens of wonderful guitars and amps in my life. Until 7 years ago, when I lost my job, and was out of work nearly 2 years and ended up selling everything. Everything. When I got work again, the first thing I bought was a guitar. And no, I can't generally drop $2k on an instrument without thinking about it these days. But my first two major purchases were both from 1990: a Mexican Strat in Olympic White, and a Les Paul Studio in black. I've been playing for 30 years. Never liked LPs or Strats. Teles, Jazzmasters, SGs, Firebirds? Hell yeah! But I never took to the two most popular guitars. But you know how it goes: when it's in your hands, you just KNOW. And though neither body style is my "favorite," and neither is a "high end" guitar, both have things that could be improved (I've swapped out the pickups in the Strat) - but they're my two favorite guitars I've ever owned. In part because it meant so much to get back into music after losing everything; but also because these two instruments... they're not perfect, but man, they're PERFECT.
To add to it, having an idea in the beginning doesn’t mean you have every detail worked out ahead of time. I think of it as imagining you or someone else playing that song - digital, record, tape, CD, MD - and what will be heard. This is, of course, on your own material.
Excellent video, on point and sincere ... Thank you! Btw, I also have an LL16D, the best acoustic guitar I've had in years, on every record I make, despite owning Martins and Taylors ... Next stop for me is to try out the Pacifica and Revstar
How do we determine the proper volume when mixing on headphones? I have the Beyerdynamic DT 990s and its tough to tell sometimes. When I am listening to music/mixing the low end is super apparent at low volume. When i turn them up to a moderate/high volume the high - super high end becomes more apparent and the low end drops out. I'd love a pair of Kalis but currently don't have the budget for them and acoustic treatment.
I agree with the paid presentation point. I was thinking the other day, it’s so extremely rare to see any review that isn’t positive these days, especially on youtube. Everything is either sent to people for free, or they’ve bought it themselves and have owner’s bias. I can’t remember the last thing I saw reviewed that wasn’t recommended in some way.
What other questions do you want me to answer? Let me know below to be featured in our next FAQ Friday video!
How do you mix bass and kick for small speakers, i mix as a hobby and most of my friends listen on phones or tablets and the bass just isnt there
Greeting Warren, I really connected with the bit about "working with the musicians in the room" vs trying to track alone. That's been a profound obstacle for me lately, especially since the isolation of lockdown.
My biggest strengths have always been of a collaborative nature. Sensing the sway and groove. Understanding when to play supportively in the pocket, and when to let loose and shine. Probably due to me performing as a drummer first, then as a bassist more professionally. The big thing I struggle with most now is that pre cognition you referred to. I've grown soo accustomed to being the "clock" or the "glue" for soo many years, that's it's frustratingly difficult to recreate that in isolation. Without another soul to "vibe" from. I'll now find myself frequently merely picking up a guitar, or sit behind a piano and just peck & noodle around without accomplishing what I know I can, and spending up precious time doing it.
After watching this it just dawned on me. Eureka! Perhaps I've been going on about this in the wrong order all this time. I should play to my strengths. Be that "clock & glue" FIRST with the drums & the bass, thusly provide my own sway, groove, and soul to THEN vibe from with everything else!
Brilliant! Thank you soo much Warren!
I seriously needed to hear it explained that way!
Cheers!!
Hi Warren!! I need some advice with this issue ive had a couple times, im pretty sure you've been in the same situation: As a producer, what do you do or how do you make the artist understand that some of their strongests requirements for this song you are producing (that is going to have your name and studio name as official credits as well) will make it sound less professional or just not as good, for ex. not tuning/editing their vocals even though they are not really good singers, or making the song so long that could become boring for almost everyone or not being open-minded to little things that could make their song even better like some ear candy. Of course this will not apply in every genre but I produce and mix Pop music mostly so I think you get my point. Thank you, Warren, big hug from Peru :D
thank you for sharing your love of music with us. we all want to vibrate and be excited by sincere artists and adventurous producers. a Friday question. how to deal with the singer :) merci
is there any uses for post-fader inserts on individual tracks ? Saying this in the sense of riding the fader to affect the compressor ,so the more you push the fader the more compression you have as a result as oppose to having pre-fader inserts which obviously the fader won't have any effect on the compressed signal . Thanks in advance and I wish you having a great day .
Warren, your integrity, honesty, transparency has never or will ever be in question. You’ve made such a remarkable contribution & I can say you’re one of the most trustworthy sources of information on the web! Keep up the great work & keep doing that thing you do!
Wow! That is an incredible compliment! I am so happy to hear this, it’s very important to me to maintain my integrity
@@Producelikeapro Warren is fair play. That's why I listen.
Fact!! Well said! Warren seriously saved my life through this lockdown, and led me to so much legit info!!
Can't find better words to express how remarkable Warren has been in educating thousands of engineers around the world ! YOU ARE A SAVIOUR Warren !!!
Warren will forever be in our hearts and in the history books. One of the most genuine living legends. I don't say this lightly. It's just true:)
Appreciate your transparency but personally, your integrity as a content creator has never been in question for me. You have given so much back to the community for free and it has all been valuable information that I am grateful for. I seem to be impervious to product placement. I buy something because I know it's good. Not because someone else said it's good or has it sitting in a corner of the shot. And if I'm not familiar with the product, then I research it first. Thanks for everything you've given back over the years. Some people have no idea how impossible this information would have been to obtain even 10 years ago.
Can't agree more!
Wow! Thanks ever so much Xeridae! That means so much to me! I love being able to make these videos, focus on great music and try my darnedest to dispel elitism and superior thinking! Music is made by passionate people, who love what they do, the ONLY real qualification is that love we all share!
@@felipousismix Thanks ever so much
100% agree as well. The extra steps of adding "Paid Presentation" _and_ explaining it at length here puts Warren two steps ahead in the ethics and honesty departments than he needs to be, by my math. Above and beyond seems par for the course with our friend here. 🍻
@@don_ald1 Thanks ever so much
Man, I love this dude. He demystifies the magic of recording while also doing everything he can, seemingly, to be an honest man while doing so.
That's very kind of you to say!
I’m not a musician and have absolutely no connection to the industry whatsoever but, love the videos, really interesting stuff. So glad I stumbled across your channel whilst searching for something else completely. Thank you.
Thanks ever so much! That’s means a lot! I’m glad you enjoy the videos!
Welcome to the club, Will! You've come to the right place
@@efnerva664 learning so much about things I never knew existed, brilliant.
I love the Scheps Channel sttrip. I use it all the time
Thanks ever so much Paul for sharing!
Transparency in all that you do is what gives you integrety, as a professional and as a human being.. Thank you Warren for showing the way.
Thanks ever so much Jens!
We bought our set of Kali monitors because they were on both yours and pensados desks for a few months. The logic was "if they're good enough for them."
I love mine and still use them to this day! Such wonderful speakers!
I *just* got a set of Kali LP-6s for my home studio and my god do they punch above their price point. Wonderfully balanced and the stereo image in my not acoustically great room is wonderful. Just hope they hold up because I’m never going to want to not have them haha
@@mrnelsonius5631 that's great to hear!
11:19 I've been working a lot with other artists lately. Sometimes I'll build a track and then give it to them and have them re-record parts. What you've described is exactly what I've experienced. If I build the track and end up using most of my own performance, I will build the track around 1-3 parts (vocals, guitar, or vocals and piano, etc). But If I get their rendition back and they've changed the feel of the track, I will strip it back down to its bare essence, and I will build it back up again with their recordings. One artists ends up adding several synths and piano elements which change the feel. But If I strip it back down, I can still use their feel but focus it more and turn it a little more in a direction that I want. Sometimes it ends up being better than if I did it just myself. And I will often add my own elements that compliment their rendition. I'm loving it.
I like EDM and retro 80s but I freaking dig this channel, How can you not love this man ?
Aw shucks thanks ever so much Oscar!
Your honesty, care, and integrity are the biggest reasons I am fan and subcribe. THANK YOU for being a great
teacher. RESPECT in the highest
Wow! Thanks ever so much Johnny! I really appreciate it!
I have a The Paul, 1980. My first real guitar. Had it re-fretted about 2 years ago the luthier said it was a pleasure to work on it. I love it and it plays, like yours, superbly. My friend sold it to my in 1987 for £165 as he wanted the money for something else. I'll never let it go.
Warren, your guitar playing is better than 90% of you tube guitar players. Beautiful. ❤️⚡👏
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much
First of all, thank you for giving all this incredible information for free, and with a smile.
I always thought, about your "branded" videos (plugins, hardware, etc.) that they were more like "If you have the idea to buy this plugin, well here's how you can get the most out of it" demonstrations.
It's good that you're clarifying the theme, a kind of statement. That's cool.
I have never doubted your integrity (for the record).
Thanks ever so much! That really means a lot
That has got to be the best FAQ Friday video so far.
Not much tips on how to record, but the message and truths told towards the end, priceless.
Dang man. Everything you talked about makes so much sense from songwriting to the community. You probably have no idea how inspiring you truly are👊 most epic producer to date!
Wow! You are very kind Brent! I really appreciate your very kind words!
You were super early on the Kali game, Warren. Thanks again for sharing them with us all. I've had a pair of LP-8's for a little over a year now, and they haven't let me down yet. Instantly made a big positive impact on my mixes. Great stuff!
Thanks ever so much Beavis!
Wow! I really think you should turn this into four videos:
1) Plugins I love.
2) Why audio production requires vision.
3) My position on sponsorship and free gear.
4) The best gear is affordable.
I'll admit I came for topic #1, but found the most value in topics 2-4. I never doubted your integrity, but did wonder if you'd been incentivized to have a certain opinion in a recent video. I no longer wonder, but, as you obviously know, that's why topic #3 deserves its own video.
That’s a rather good idea indeed!
Sir Warren, your diatribe about consumer corporate slavery is honest, and self evident. TYVM for candid clarity. We are all consumers, we can't avoid that as Western capitalists, or we'd all be playing reed flutes, shakuhatchis, and beating on logs. But that would be music too! Your integrity has RISEN.
Thanks ever so much Brian!
I think it's ok to advertise as long as there is some give and take, so to speak. That Pedal Show is one long advertisement for the Gig Rig and I love every second of it. They give more than they get and so do you Warren. Your video on vocal production spun me into hours blissful experimentation that I am grateful for.
Wow! Thanks ever so much
Yeah, with the paid notification thing, too many act like they love some new piece of gear and it's the best thing ever, but then you never see it again. Makes it hard to take that seriously. I appreciate that you spell out so many things. Maybe you wouldn't talk about things you don't like, but not everyone is that way, and it's hard to always suss that out.
Peavey T series is awesome! Thanks, Warren.
Thanks Scott! I love the Peavey T40!!
There’s no way I’m going to make any comment critical or otherwise regarding your process. I wouldn’t even dream of comparing how my mind works to yours, you’re a highly talented and acclaimed producer. I am a nobody with next to no skill in the audio realm
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it!
@Zack Darce I really know very little, I seem to be blessed with sensitive ears though and that’s helped
@Zack Darce agreed, we have a very educated and very aware community!
@@everyinchtheanimal that's the most important thing of course!
Protect this man at all costs!!!
Thanks ever so much Jake!
Warren, I liked your comments about the essence of the song vs. ear candy. It resonates with a lot of what I learned when I was studying composition...this idea of being deliberate with voicings and having a really good reason any time you want to have two instruments sounding the same note. I'm definitely still learning how a focused production from the ground up makes everything come together easier. My thanks to you as always for sharing your valuable wisdom and perspective!
This is still one of the best channels about music production, learned a lot here in the last year when I started to follow you guys. Keep up the good work. What about mixing a production, it's hard to understand where some producers want to go to, with a song. Tracking here is impossible, so I have to rely on outhouse recordings. And most of the producers giving me extra info. To get us on the same page. I'm not earning money, but I'm addicted to music and keep me sane, and I love challenges. Thanks all.
I purchased the two plugin's Warren suggested. I bought one more and got 2 more for free. Then I went in and did a new mix I had just done that morning with the plugins - i found them to be amazing! I also got scheps plugin and I picked the abby road echo Chamber and a bass guitar plugin. The plugin MV2 Warren suggested found the kick drum and I could hear it. Rbass was also amazing transforming a muffy bass to a more pointed striker (well turning up that frequency that was naturally quite in the track) - to my ears the latest mix sounds best. Thank you Warren! You are a golden god!
Thank you Warren for putting the "paid presentation" from now on. It's truly appreciated.
Absolutely! Definitely don’t want to confuse! I know I always describe the relationship, however good to put the link there as well
Hi Warren, can you do a VDO on 'How to keepp you guitar in tuned' ? Especially Gibson Les Paul. Thank you.
Marvellous idea Sam!
Really appreciate your honesty and transparency about your relationship with the companies you work with. It’s sad that some can’t see that, if it’s good you talk about it, if it’s not you don’t. If people can’t work that out then shame on them not you. You encourage and inspire people, some don’t like that because they only have negativity. Don’t ever change.
I worked with Warren on a number of videos and promotions and everything he said is 100% true. This is why brands like ours work with Warren. There is zero chance of a brand working with somebody if there is no integrity. How to we vet for that? By their community and what warren has done for the whole community is astounding. I echo the call for this man to be protected.
Aw shucks Lee! You are the man my friend! That's very kind of you to say!
Three to go anywhere:
1. 4000G channel would be my instant pick for a ‘stranded on an island’ scenario. Every time I touch it, it sounds great. Can’t leave that behind!
2. I don’t think I’ve done a single mix without the MV2 since I got it many years ago. It’s like having an assistant wherever I use it, replacing compression with an invisible hand.
3. H-Verb would probably suffice for my ‘just one’ reverb, especially as the island would afford me the endless hours to get what I need out of it.
Stock Pro Tools plugs would easily cover the rest, and I’d probably make the best records of my life being isolated from all the fru-fru.
Thanks for great videos. Being a Swedish Beatles fan since I was 7 in 1975 I also want to thank you for the videos with Jerry Hammack. Did not know about his five books (Recording Reference Manual) before, but I just got all of them delivered :) They are great!
Thanks again from a mad Beatle record collector and other music/former or current musician/audiophile and currently for the last 20 years, a brewer.
I know a guy in the little town I live in (Omak, WA), who has a '79 The Paul. Cool to see you have one in the studio, Warren.
Thanks ever so much Devin! I love it!
@@Producelikeapro Cheers! I know the feeling of how well those were built and sound. The gentlemen here let me play his '79. I was in a cover/jam band with him.
That’s very cool! Yes, highly recommend them!
Jesus. Been watching a long time and the sheer mastery you have of the instruments you are producing for is absurd. I feel like a fraud now. Thanks
You’re far too kind! For me being good on guitar is nothing compared with being a great songwriter! Tom Petty said that if he had been a great guitarist he wouldn’t have been a great songwriter! Whatever your passion is follow it my friend!
Decent, honest people are harder and harder to come across. Keep up the good work Warren and Eric.
Brilliant Warren, as always !!! Quote "Music is a celebration of Love, its a Celebration of Life, its Beautiful, its just a Celebration, it brings Us Together"
Honesty is absolutely the only way to go.
I Pray God continues to Bless, Protect, Inspire & Will You Warren & All Your Family & Loved Ones Always And Forever !!!
Super appreciate your honesty when it comes to gear, and your opinions thereof. Got the LP6 on your recommendation, and they've been absolutely killer for what I need. It's murky water, all this product placement/advertisement, and really good to know you stand by everything you show on the channel regardless of the relationship with the companies.
Cheers!
I have to say your honesty and your great outlook are what drives me .. thanks. this is my escape to day to day stress of life. and you inspire.
Cheers if you're ever in San Diego, there is always a cold one for you mate.
Your honesty and transparency regardless of the brands. Is what keeps me glued on your channel. Cheers! Lots of love from here the Philippines!
That really means a lot!
One of the few people I trust to be honest when they're given a product to review.
Wow! Thanks ever so much!
I didn’t know, somebody could share on YT what kind of profit people make from the presentations. Warren, you are the King, no secret, no tabu or something like this.
Thanks ever so much!
Best and honest EVER commentary (excuse my english) that I’m subscribing. Damn I wish I would work with you. :)
Thanks ever so much Jean!
I've still got my 'The S.G.' - it's definitely got it where it counts. Lovely sounding through my little '71 Champ I got from Olly back in't day :)
Correct me if I‘m wrong, but I used to own a Les Paul Firebrand . It was the same body as the „ The Paul“ but it had lots of little holes in it like it hasdbeen sandblasted.
Yes, I believe that is exactly what they became!
I hope I can be one day close enough to buy you a beer, wine, whisky or whatever you fancy. You are one awesome person and teacher. Cheers from Madrid.
Thanks Juan in beautiful Madrid! I'll take a cup of tea or coffee!!
Warren I so wish you show everybody how good you can shred. It seems to me that you are an incredible guitarist. I would love to see you do a instrumental recording video with you shredding on guitar. Maybe a solo guitar tone video.
Thanks ever so much Joshua! That's very kind of you!
When you talked about individual musicians producing themselves, I immediately thought of Mike Oldfield and Tubular Bells.
Exactly! Masterpiece!
@@Producelikeapro I bought the vinyl last year, I love the album, but time has exposed it's flaws. Great marketing with album cover + the spoken intros!
@@gospelrecordz3506 I love that album! I will gp back and re-listen with renewed vigour!
@@Producelikeapro Yea I love it too, but after hearing it again I did think, 'That marketing was genius'!
It’s so true that recording well and intentionally is critical to getting a good mix. If your record with a vision and record well, the mix just comes together without a lot of effort. At least in my experience! Thanks for this video, I am always encouraged when I watch this stuff!
that last bit was really cool.Just the words i needed to hear. hey man you gotta add "see ya later" in your sign offs....thats what we say here.
hey Scones ,if you read this , how cool was this episode.
I think the Rbass is still the best “sub boost” type plugin out there. There are others but I think the beauty of the Rbass is the simplicity. 3 controls
Agreed 100%!
If I could buy only one plugin, it's probably Trackspacer. I use it only occasionally, but it's still my choice because I don't know of any acceptable free alternative to it. Any of the more basic stuff like EQ and compression, I'm perfectly fine with the stock Reaper effects or stuff like TDR Nova.
Always respected your honesty. Thanks Warren.
Thanks ever so much Donnie!
I have lots of the great channel strips including the omni chan and find them overwhelming to use. Sometimes I wanna just use that “thump” thing in the Omni, but also like the high end of the ssl eq, but think other stand alone compressors may be better choices than the ssl chan strip comps etc. my point is, in a digital modular world, don’t you think the idea of a hardware style “channel strip” is an obsolete idea? I know I’m wrong because I see the greatest engineers on the planet using them. I’m just confused why. Thanks 🙏
I’d die for a Peter Hook. Yamaha basses are the hidden gems of the bass world. I’ve had all the big names... and my yamaha’s always get the time.
Agreed 100%! Thanks ever so much
Yes, I like The Guitar Of The Day segment.
Indeed, the stock plug-in in my two DAWs, StudioOne and FL Studio, go a LONG way for FX, dynamics, and instruments. So there is two plug-in that expand what is possible in my DAWs, Melodyne and VocAlign. Other plug-ins just do what I already have maybe better or easier. Seems to me anyway.
Thanks ever so much Loren!
This is the first music related channel in RUclips that I subscibed years ago. It is still my favourite, it's pure class all the way. Reminds me of Bob Marley: "Let's get together and feel all right!" And yes, you should do a video about Bob! : )
Wow! Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it!
Some great points there Warren. Funnily enough I totally agree with you about the Limiter it's my go to for vocals and Bass. There's times it's not acting as really anything other than a volume leveller. It's not actually shaving anything off the signal just acting as a transparent leveller. The other choice would be the Audiority Tube Modulator. It's cheap less than forty quid and is the best digital stab at the univibe feel I have so far heard in the box. I've no association with them at all just chuffed I've found something digital that does wibble with the bottom end intact. I'd love to know what you make of it Warren
Ive found that if you like a specific piece of gear, it makes it alot easier for me to fill my rack or arsenal of plugins or locker of mics or meter bridge with speakers. I dont listen to any other product reviews really because i know that if ypu say its good, then it is! So thanks warren for everything you do!
If I had to buy just one plugin to complement Ableton's default plugins, it would be a good quality fairly "transparent" compressor such as TDR Kotelnikov GE (the free version is great as well.). There are some excellent free mixing/mastering plugins out there. The TDR series is a great place to start.
MV2 is reeealyyy niiiceee! 🔥 🔥 🔥!!!! I thought the most expensive plugin, the better is and it worth to grab. BUT after this video I changed my mind! Waves gave me RBass at no cost (I was shoked.. I didn't believe first..) And now I'm on the way to purchase MV2, Vitamin and 1 plug they give free! A cool bargain, I suppose! Thanks to you I've found what I realy need!
maybe something talking about ELO production styles, vocal sounds, guitar , drums etc?
Hey Warren, I think the RUclipsr you're talking about is Tom Scott :)
Yes! He's amazing! I'm embarrassed I couldn't remember!
Thanks for the transparency. The main cred RUclipsrs have with their viewers is integrity, so I'm sure if you didn't jive with a product, you'd just quietly send it back. Sponsored or partially sponsored videos do make life easier in RUclips land where ad revenue is spotty and unpredictable, at best :-)
Thanks ever so much Lawrence!!
Great as always, Warren. Love your honesty and integrity! 👍
I appreciate that! Thanks ever so much
The Scheps Omni Channel at Waves is currently 30 bucks, so not a huge risk there. Thanks for the recommendation on MV2 and R. Bass. This channel is bad for plugin addicts :-)
Fantastic as always, the extent to which you really care about all this is truly inspiring.
Wow! I appreciate that! Thanks ever so much!
As always, many thanks 🙏🏼 Love your wisdom. At this point, you’re so embedded in the music education community (bc it IS...might as well be college), that I couldn’t help but reference you and a few others in a recent mix/production rundown I did. Had to laugh at how much you, Justin Colletti, Graham Cochran, Glenn Fricker, etc as well as CT locals like Vic Steffens (Horizon) have shaped all of my (our) considerations/skills/knowledge. Again, thank you very much. You’ve not only imparted practical, technical info, but you’ve maintained a position of creativity and fun so that we do t necessarily end up as your clone.
never get tired of your advice
You're too kind! Thanks ever so much
Have a great day everyone!
Have a marvelous day, RJ beatz!
You too my good man.
May the funk be with you
Could you do a "how to get a beatles-like sound at home"? How would you approach recording, what plug ins to use etc.?
Marvellous idea!
Warren’s channel is essential for any musician.I’m stating the obvious again
From watching PLAP, and through experience, I've learned that you can't "mix" your way into the final product and like it. I now have a vision. Maybe not the complete vision, but a pretty good idea of what I want. If you can't do a static mix, and maybe just add a little mix buss eq, a nice buss compressor, and tape emulation and have it sound pretty good, you're doing something wrong.
As I perform all the instruments parts, I get the sounds as close to the final sound as I can. I will tweak and re-record every guitar track if the sound I have just isn't working. I play every track start to end. That goes for any instrument. If a deep snare would fit the track better than the higher pitched snare that I already recorded, I will re-record the drums. Get the sound right at the course. I learned that from you, and my production has become pretty darn good.
BTW my 2 favorite mics -the Lewitt LCT 640 TS as my drum overhead is easy and amazing. Great on guitar cabs, too. Avantone CV-12 (C-12 emulation) is amazing on vocals, you should check that one out.
You covered a lot of ground on this vid.
I don't mind the product placement that much personally. I surely don't get upset, lol. But I understand the need for transparency I suppose. As for the plugins, same here, use a lot of the stock, (reaper), plug-ins. Rea-eq everywhere. Their reverb as well. Why not? They just work! One or two ik and waves plugs plus a plug or two that do something oddball if needed. We keep things simple. As for instruments; I'd even use a hello-kitty strat if it sounded good., (confession - I have more than once, lol ),. Just glad there are no pictures. But that doesn't keep me from watching your reviews of new gear and software!
Thanks for offering so much priceless info. When I started out decades ago no one in the town where I grew up, knew a thing about this stuff. I'd have thought I'd died and gone to heaven to have a resource like this youtube channel back then. Cheers and thanks.
One of the most meaningful statements ever on any platform! Love your videos and your integrity and “straightforward approach “ are an example 🙏🙏🙏
Fantastic tutorial about the conceptual side of music production. 👍
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Love your transparency Warren. It’s refreshing. 👌
Thanks ever so much Tony!
Warren great Video as ever. I always have loved The Paul, outstanding guitars in effect it’s a custom with no frills. Ebony board Ttop pickups. I own one myself and a couple of firebrands. They often get bad press from the Gibson Snobs as they don’t fit that traditional button they tend to want to tick. In short if you buy a the 79 the Paul for a grand you get a whole stack of guitar for your cash. We have to consider a 79 custom is now fetching over 3k. I hope it’s still got it’s chainsaw case.
Hey man, Plugins are quite a gem! Cheers man!
Thanks ever so much RC32!
@@Producelikeapro My pleasure!
If I could only have 2 plugins I’d go with Izotope’s Neutron and Plugin Alliance’s 4000 (whichever letter was the one that came second) console.
I have over 100 non-instrument plugins and I use Neutron and the SSL strip for like 60% of what I do. (with the next 20% being reverbs, delays, and modulation and the remainder being miscellaneous eqs, compressors, and utility plugins)
That Gibson sounds absolutely lovely, and in your hands it's a dream.
Thanks ever so much Morgan!
I totally agree on RBass! Crucial. I've never fully embraced MV2. though; I find the aggressive gain compensation a little annoying!
Jo, nice to find you here!
@@xantux Hey Xantux! Who would have ever guessed? 😅
You're awesome, Warren!
Thanks ever so much
Thanx Warren !!!! ;-) Just like John Miles said ... "Music was my first love..."
For me the easiest way to do it, is sticking to the idea and search for melodies A/B/C first. That way I have something fall back on.
It's not unusual for me to think of a song that really grabs me with their groove and I want to create my own song with a similar groove, and away I go! Ha ha!
Thanks ever so much Larry!
For Question 1: I have a band that I mix 2 to 3 original songs for each month (typically one out of three has commercial value). They record directly to an SD drive from their console. When I first started working with them, I asked if they could send me a rough mix of a couple songs. They said, "we don't know how to mix... that's what we're paying you for." So I sent them three different mixes in their genre (pop/rock) of the same song. I asked which they prefer. They said they like each, and couldn't decide on a favorite. That is when I really became their producer, not a mix engineer. Since then, the process is the same. They send me about 24 tracks (10 drums mics, Electric bass (DI and Amp mic), 1 to 2 acoustic DI, 1 electric (Stereo from Helix), Click track, Stereo keyboard, Male lead and 2 to 3 Female vocals, and Stereo room mics). They record each song several times and make notes as to their best live performance (no overdubs or punch-ins). Because we live in different states, I can't just drive over to their sessions, so we spend a lot of time on Zoom discussing each song. My mix process is to understand who wrote the song, and which instrument he wrote it on. That becomes the main instrument for the that song, and everything else works around that. Often in the mix process I will copy different parts from one take and insert it into my final session. On almost all songs, I add additional keyboard parts (virtual instruments from techno synths and loops to orchestra) to fill in the 'holes' of the song and help it sound more complete. When I sent them my first couple productions, they were blown away, and had no idea their 'little' songs could sound so good. We hope to have enough material by fall to produce an LP.
Preach it! Leveling the mountains and raising up the valleys! Creativity verses gear idolatry, well said.
Thanks ever so much
Thanks for sharing your process on recording and the background story of your RUclips career, wonderful motivation and 100% accomplished!
This channel is the best source with the best vibes & tips about music production 🤘
And this Les Paul sounds just tasty haha
You are the best Mr. Huart!
You’re very kind
That's a good sounding Les Paul I bet! I like the older one's!
Me too!
What is that piece of rack gear at the bottom of the rack with the Pultec’s in it (on your right in this video)? Almost looks like a receiver/amplifier?
Yes! That's a Marantz Receiver for my Bang and Olufsen turntable!
I have had dozens of wonderful guitars and amps in my life. Until 7 years ago, when I lost my job, and was out of work nearly 2 years and ended up selling everything. Everything.
When I got work again, the first thing I bought was a guitar. And no, I can't generally drop $2k on an instrument without thinking about it these days. But my first two major purchases were both from 1990: a Mexican Strat in Olympic White, and a Les Paul Studio in black.
I've been playing for 30 years. Never liked LPs or Strats. Teles, Jazzmasters, SGs, Firebirds? Hell yeah! But I never took to the two most popular guitars.
But you know how it goes: when it's in your hands, you just KNOW. And though neither body style is my "favorite," and neither is a "high end" guitar, both have things that could be improved (I've swapped out the pickups in the Strat) - but they're my two favorite guitars I've ever owned. In part because it meant so much to get back into music after losing everything; but also because these two instruments... they're not perfect, but man, they're PERFECT.
glad you’re back on your feet man :) They sound like great guitars (yes that terrible pun was intended)
19:45 I also like that sfx haha. Jokes aside, thanks for enlighting us out Sir
To add to it, having an idea in the beginning doesn’t mean you have every detail worked out ahead of time. I think of it as imagining you or someone else playing that song - digital, record, tape, CD, MD - and what will be heard. This is, of course, on your own material.
great episode - got my T40 plugged in! I see a Waves sale going on for the 2 plugins - normally 100 but today 30
Great Bass! Thanks ever so much
Excellent video, on point and sincere ... Thank you! Btw, I also have an LL16D, the best acoustic guitar I've had in years, on every record I make, despite owning Martins and Taylors ... Next stop for me is to try out the Pacifica and Revstar
Marvellous! Yes! The RevStar is by far my favourite electric
Surely you should call these Friday vlogs “Thank FAQ it’s Friday”! Anyway I’m a big fan of the channel, keep ‘em coming. Cheers
How do we determine the proper volume when mixing on headphones? I have the Beyerdynamic DT 990s and its tough to tell sometimes. When I am listening to music/mixing the low end is super apparent at low volume. When i turn them up to a moderate/high volume the high - super high end becomes more apparent and the low end drops out. I'd love a pair of Kalis but currently don't have the budget for them and acoustic treatment.
I agree with the paid presentation point. I was thinking the other day, it’s so extremely rare to see any review that isn’t positive these days, especially on youtube. Everything is either sent to people for free, or they’ve bought it themselves and have owner’s bias. I can’t remember the last thing I saw reviewed that wasn’t recommended in some way.
I'll say it again, Warren you are great person.
Thanks ever so much Ted!