I have watched a lot of TV in my 48 years. My first love was Sopranos, then Mad Men and then Deadwood came along. I have no hesitation in saying that Deadwood is the finest TV ever written and produced. I am not expecting it will ever be surpassed either.
Best quote of all time: “We give ourselves in imagination to the reality of another world. We take joy in respecting its integrity. We treasure its difference. And that lifts us up as human beings. And it’s a wonderful thing to do every week. You know I feel it’s a privilege to participate in a sacrament. And uh, don’t tell the bosses, but I’d do it for nothing.” - David Milch
Honestly I'm ok with it. Where else was the show going to go? George Hearst was the main villain and he wasn't going to be outshined. Deadwood town historically burned down and I assume that would have been the logical conclusion to the show in seasons 4 or 5, seeing how the community rebuilt the town.
Other than a few historical events I'd like to have seen pan out(good pun) there wasn't much more it could really do without taking drastic fictional leaps
Greatest American show of the 21st century so far, pulled no punches & sold no bullshit. A class act in every department led by a man of infinate talent.
An hour ago I had never heard of David Milch, enraptured by the language in Deadwood, I could not be more satisfied arriving here. I want more. What a lucid purveyor of words
The beauty and language of Deadwood sings to me. It’s like wonderful, yummy cake that I just can’t get enough of. And the obscenity is just the cherry on the top of that dessert! Let alone the haunting music……mmmmmmmmmmm!!
I love this show. Milch explained so much. The ritual of the peaches. The cause for the cursing and the flowery language. His thoughts in celebrity. Fascinating.
This guy almost speaks TOO intelligently. It almost spooks me out that he now has Alzheimer's. How can someone with a mind so unique, and so intelligent, get Alzheimer's? It's crazy to me. He's probably one of the most intelligent, and interesting human beings, I've ever seen. Sad that he's gotta go through that. We need more minds like his. They don't come around often.
Same with Pratchett for me. The terrible irony of people who revel in and celebrate language having their capacity stolen by a fucking disease is enough to make me weep.
This man is the best writer of all time….the parallels between all his series are unique yet identifiable. I’ve watched all his work countless times and continue to be in awe….
My God Milch is so intelligent and well versed in history I could listen to this man talk about the west for hours. What a great man. Amazing concepts.
Part of the joy of Deadwood is finding another human who has never seen it and watching it get into their bloodstream to the point where they ask you if they can borrow your Blu-ray set so they can binge-watch the entire series.
Couldn't agree more. Never listened to an interview with him before till now. The way he uses vernacular and palette of words to paint a masterpiece is just captivating. You can see the interviewer Carridine just in awe and yearning in anticipation of what undiscovered gems are about to come to form next.
Milch is a fascinating dude. And I’m proud to say He’s from my hometown of Buffalo. I’m saddened by his current health condition that deprives us of his works/talents. Deadwood is the epitome of rewatch quality. All these years later and the series means something completely different to me now than it did when I was 20 years younger.
The key to the key to good TV is to avoid repeating themes. Deadwood, sopranos, and breaking bad excelled at these. Walking dead, justified, Yellowstone, etc fell very very short in that regard, and that’s why they’ll never be on the level of the aforementioned top 3.
Brilliant writing by David and superb production by all. I know I’m late to the party but this is the best western series I have ever watched ! Thank you especially for the ornate western language.
Watching for the sixth time. Brilliant American film. The 2019 official finale didn’t quite do it justice. Deadwood and The Wire. Impossible to imagine anything better.
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx that’s fair lol in all honesty I flip flop back and forth between which one is better it depends what mood I’m in I guess all i know is no other show is on the level of the wire and the sopranos
@@kdizzle901 Completely agree. Each of my top four (Mad Men, The Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood) has something that it does better than the others, and has a slightly different focus, tone, etc. And I can completely understand that they appeal to some more than others. Cheers!
Man how can something so wonderful ever be canced. I've watched the show so many times now I just say the lines before or during when they say them. It's great and fun.
Swehajin coksukka... what obscene language? That's just classic Mandarin. Absolutely one of the best shows ever produced for the small screen. From every facet of a show, the words, the ones who say them, the places where they are spoken, and the willingness to get down in that mud (metaphorically or literally with those pigs) and tell a story of love, conflict, change, and redemption. Just a masterpiece.
a master class in character development. each and every one, and not just the main characters, even the minor characters developed such depth in both character and relationships.
It's funny hearing them talk about the "thickness of the language". I've probably watched the series 7 times and I still cannot figure out the deal between Al and Mrs. Ingrinshousen. What the hell happened there?
A wonderful series that I will rewatch one day. My only regret is that because it was partially bound by/to history, the last season became a build-up to an anti-climax.
I wud have given anything just to be in the room w him. I'd polish his shoes, fetch his coffee, search hi and lo for tp if he was stuck in the bathroom. I canceled my HBO subscription when I found out deadwood was cancelled, and I still haven't renewed it. FU HBO.
1.The Wire 2.Deadwood 3. Mad Men 4.Band of Brothers 5. NYPD Blue 6. The Americans 7.Succesion 8.Soprano's 9.Hill St. Blues 10. Better Call Saul 6 thru 10 are interchangable.
A little more complicated than that. Basically *everybody* was to blame. The end of the show was a combination of factors 1) It was the result of corporate infighting over profits. HBO is a division of Warner Media - and Warner was co-producing "Deadwood" with Paramount studios. Long story short, through the 3 seasons, Warner and Paramount were bitching to each other about who would share a larger percentage of the profits from the show. They reached an impasse in negotiations before the 4th season was supposed to be written/go into production and both Warner and Paramount, they both walked away from the table. But it wasn't just that. 2) The second reason was that the actors' contracts were ONLY for 3 seasons, with an OPTION for a fourth season. "Deadwood" was never OFFICIALLY "canceled" - the actors' contracts simply weren't picked up for a fourth season - which was basically HBO's passive-aggressive way of canceling the show, as they told the actors that they were free from their contracts now and could do what they want - which meant a lot of them going to different opportunities, since it *looked* like a fourth season wouldn't happen - higher paying opportunities, as the show had made stars of its leads. BUT - and a lot of people don't know this: 3) HBO really *DID* try to keep it going - but they wanted Milch to start work on his "John From Cincinnatti" series at the same time - so they offered Milch a 6-episode 4th and final season of "Deadwood" - basically HALF of the usual 12, to finish up the show in a proper way that while not ideal, would have at least given it a more proper "ending". David Milch DECLINED to do that. He COULD have said yes, and we could have had a 6-episode fourth season. INSTEAD, Mich told them, "I'll do TWO 2-hour movies" to wrap up the show. And HBO was totally game for it at the time. In other words, instead of a fourth season, we would have had 2 Deadwood "movies" with the actors all still in their prime. The PROBLEM was, BECAUSE Warner/Paramount/HBO never picked up the actors' contracts during the negotiations mentioned above, not enough of the actors were available anymore to do it and gone on to other projects. LASTLY, number 4) RATINGS. The show's first season had a decent 4.5 million viewers. That number declined by HALF for its second season. And then even WORSE for its third season. In other words, it was an expensive show that nobody was watching, which equals very little profit in return for Warner and Paramount - especially when the show was constantly going over budget - by a *lot* - with each episode costing almost $5 million - and no ratings to justify it. So - yeah. A LOT of contributing factors ended the show.
Loved the show and glad I got to bing it… I’m only sorry it was unceremoniously cancelled and the movie was produced many years later when his writing was impacted by health and Hollywood had begun its slide into a horseshit filled though fare of indistinguishable slop
I haven't watched it myself (I follow someone who does and thus where a bulk of my knowledge comes from), but is a shame so many boomers who pretend they have virgin ears get all ruffled because of the vulgarity, and didn't give the series a chance. I try to tell my dad what's it's trying to do, but he's SO DAMN fixated on "every other word is the C word, or the F word." (especially when he swears a blue streak at any mild inconvenience) when it's true they didn't use the modern vulgarity we know as swearing, Much of their swears at the time would be considered very tame by our standards, so he substituted modern vulgarity to convey the same impact to the audience.
Great show- as long as you can set aside the huge deviations from fact pertaining to the historical figures used as characters. Some of the imagined reality was trivial, but some dishonored the memories and lives of the real people. Do their descendants care? Maybe not. But would you like it if it was you being fictionalized for the purposes of a more compelling story?
One of the greatest cocksucking shows ever made. No surprise then, that this is one of the best "making of" pieces ever endeavored. Interviewed by one of your show's own seasoned actors, intelligent questions and fucking answers, all interspersed with scenes from the show illustrative of the very points of fucking contention? You've got a working fucking gold claim there.
One of the last great shows. Don't get me wrong there have been many good shows that depict the past pretty well, but the industry leans WAY too much on CGI now. Like old time England depicted in the peaky blinders is pretty freakin cool, but u can def tell the majority of the visual effects aren't practically done anymor.
David is the best , the only guy that come close is the writer western series is the writer Sheridan western series as of late , all of them even the Kevin Costner modern set rancher one.
The earliest known use of the word " cocksucker" was 1880, Deadwood was 1876 , this is inaccurate but entertaining, most people probably wouldn't of sworn as much as this program projects.
I have watched a lot of TV in my 48 years. My first love was Sopranos, then Mad Men and then Deadwood came along. I have no hesitation in saying that Deadwood is the finest TV ever written and produced. I am not expecting it will ever be surpassed either.
I concur.
It’s good but not that good in my opinion I think the wire the sopranos breaking bad and the shield reign supreme
Yes it's way ahead of most
@callmecatalyst Oh, indeed.
@callmecatalyst agreed. The wire and deadwood are as good as it gets. Sopranos a close third. In HBO we trust 😂
Best quote of all time: “We give ourselves in imagination to the reality of another world. We take joy in respecting its integrity. We treasure its difference. And that lifts us up as human beings. And it’s a wonderful thing to do every week. You know I feel it’s a privilege to participate in a sacrament. And uh, don’t tell the bosses, but I’d do it for nothing.” - David Milch
A+ Amazing catch of a quote
jaw dropped. this guys free form dialogue is better then most scripted award winners.
Yeah, he was formidably intelligent and articulate. So sad that he has Alzheimers
Even though no one used language like that in those days.
Deadwood was definitely special and a work of genius
Deadwood only lasting 3 seasons is almost criminal.
It's a tough pill to swallow
Not almost, it is.
Agreed, amazing show , it made "little big man" , a very plain movie and thought it was great history western fiction.
Honestly I'm ok with it. Where else was the show going to go? George Hearst was the main villain and he wasn't going to be outshined. Deadwood town historically burned down and I assume that would have been the logical conclusion to the show in seasons 4 or 5, seeing how the community rebuilt the town.
Other than a few historical events I'd like to have seen pan out(good pun) there wasn't much more it could really do without taking drastic fictional leaps
Greatest American show of the 21st century so far, pulled no punches & sold no bullshit. A class act in every department led by a man of infinate talent.
West Wing was better.
An hour ago I had never heard of David Milch, enraptured by the language in Deadwood, I could not be more satisfied arriving here. I want more. What a lucid purveyor of words
When I think about credit and paying bills I always think about the line “ beholden to no human cocksucker” and that gives me something to strive for.
The beauty and language of Deadwood sings to me. It’s like wonderful, yummy cake that I just can’t get enough of. And the obscenity is just the cherry on the top of that dessert! Let alone the haunting music……mmmmmmmmmmm!!
Who are the barbarians who disliked this? I had no idea how brilliant Milch was until this interview. Blown away.
Nevermind them. I'm happy people can access this material and appreciate Milch's views and art.
@@MrKick123 Neverminded they are.
Hoopleheads
@@PeterDamianLevy I like Wu's word for them.
Hear ye, may Richardson's antler haunt their miserable souls.
What's not mentioned much was how absolutely amazing the soundtrack was
Listening to David talk is like listening to a scene from Deadwood
I love this show. Milch explained so much. The ritual of the peaches. The cause for the cursing and the flowery language. His thoughts in celebrity. Fascinating.
This guy almost speaks TOO intelligently. It almost spooks me out that he now has Alzheimer's. How can someone with a mind so unique, and so intelligent, get Alzheimer's? It's crazy to me. He's probably one of the most intelligent, and interesting human beings, I've ever seen. Sad that he's gotta go through that. We need more minds like his. They don't come around often.
One of television's greatest writers
I did not know. What a loss for the culture.
Alzheimers don't care. Cancer don't care. Don't live your life thinking these things are repelled by virtues you prefer.
@@blurgle9185 I don't. I was speaking on the irony of it. Damn hooplehead
Same with Pratchett for me. The terrible irony of people who revel in and celebrate language having their capacity stolen by a fucking disease is enough to make me weep.
I am SO sad to learn that David Milch has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's.
Such a treasure, this man is.
I am overwhelmed.
This man is the best writer of all time….the parallels between all his series are unique yet identifiable. I’ve watched all his work countless times and continue to be in awe….
My God Milch is so intelligent and well versed in history I could listen to this man talk about the west for hours. What a great man. Amazing concepts.
What a smart guy , David we salute you sir !!!
Part of the joy of Deadwood is finding another human who has never seen it and watching it get into their bloodstream to the point where they ask you if they can borrow your Blu-ray set so they can binge-watch the entire series.
The second hand high is the only way to chase the dragon that was cancelled on us.
LOVD DEADWOOD, SOPRANOS AND SONS OF ANARCHY...ALL GREAT, REAL, ROUGH SERIES!👍👍
This man's brain is incredible. I wish I could think like him and articulate my thoughts in the same manner. WOW
You can. Devote your life to your passion.
What a wordsmith and historian.
best explanation of the “why” of the spoken word choices in the series. Brilliant.
Couldn't agree more. Never listened to an interview with him before till now. The way he uses vernacular and palette of words to paint a masterpiece is just captivating. You can see the interviewer Carridine just in awe and yearning in anticipation of what undiscovered gems are about to come to form next.
Milch is a fascinating dude. And I’m proud to say He’s from my hometown of Buffalo. I’m saddened by his current health condition that deprives us of his works/talents. Deadwood is the epitome of rewatch quality. All these years later and the series means something completely different to me now than it did when I was 20 years younger.
Thanks for uploading this!
David speaks like a history textbook........such a smart guy.....
The key to the key to good TV is to avoid repeating themes. Deadwood, sopranos, and breaking bad excelled at these. Walking dead, justified, Yellowstone, etc fell very very short in that regard, and that’s why they’ll never be on the level of the aforementioned top 3.
Keith Carradine will always be Armand d'Hubert to me. He was fantastic in The Duelists
Brilliant writing by David and superb production by all. I know I’m late to the party but this is the best western series I have ever watched ! Thank you especially for the ornate western language.
David truly is a master at his craft.
David Simon
David Chase
David Milch
The 3 Kings of television writing. The Davids of HBO.
wtf....I have been thinking the exact same thing since I came across this interview XD
Larry David too.
David Gilligan?
what did he do?
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Like Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson and Michael Jordan in the 80s.
Would have loved to see his show set in Ancient Rome
Deadwood, the Sopranos, Mad Men, The Wire, Six Feet Under. The Golden Age…nothing today comes close.
Watching for the sixth time. Brilliant American film. The 2019 official finale didn’t quite do it justice. Deadwood and The Wire. Impossible to imagine anything better.
The sopranos is almost as good as the wire but not quite
@@callmecatalyst not at all offended, but I tried the Americans and gave up after a while. Nowhere close to the top tier
@@kdizzle901I’d reverse that
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx that’s fair lol in all honesty I flip flop back and forth between which one is better it depends what mood I’m in I guess all i know is no other show is on the level of the wire and the sopranos
@@kdizzle901 Completely agree. Each of my top four (Mad Men, The Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood) has something that it does better than the others, and has a slightly different focus, tone, etc. And I can completely understand that they appeal to some more than others. Cheers!
Man how can something so wonderful ever be canced. I've watched the show so many times now I just say the lines before or during when they say them. It's great and fun.
I used to love this series. I turned on my CC so I could read the words. One of the best written television shows. Sadly, it didn't last long.
best show ever!!!
This bloke is phalaris thank you for posting
Those poor souls who downvoted shall feel the combined wrath of Al and Seth
And Wu. Heng Dai!
God almighty as great as Deadwood and Rome are as tv shows, David Milch's Rome would have been simply too perfect!
That was a truly fascinating discussion. "The Bosses". True story.
Like the show he created, David Milch is timeless...
Genius does what it must, Talent does what it can.
Swehajin coksukka... what obscene language? That's just classic Mandarin. Absolutely one of the best shows ever produced for the small screen. From every facet of a show, the words, the ones who say them, the places where they are spoken, and the willingness to get down in that mud (metaphorically or literally with those pigs) and tell a story of love, conflict, change, and redemption. Just a masterpiece.
a master class in character development. each and every one, and not just the main characters, even the minor characters developed such depth in both character and relationships.
Classic feature, brilliant man
DEADWOOD was a very unique place, not a city, county, state, or territory!!! "RULES??? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING RULES!!!" 🤔🤔🤔👍👍👍🤓🤓🤓🤓
If only Milch had done the Ned Kelly movies.....noone has got it anywhere close to the brilliance of Deadwood.
It's funny hearing them talk about the "thickness of the language". I've probably watched the series 7 times and I still cannot figure out the deal between Al and Mrs. Ingrinshousen. What the hell happened there?
deadwood ended on a high note. And that isnt something alot of shows gets to do.
A genius writing brilliance, for elite talents…
Genius by definition has rough edges, especially economic. Largest challenge to successful management in any venue.
A wonderful series that I will rewatch one day. My only regret is that because it was partially bound by/to history, the last season became a build-up to an anti-climax.
I wud have given anything just to be in the room w him. I'd polish his shoes, fetch his coffee, search hi and lo for tp if he was stuck in the bathroom. I canceled my HBO subscription when I found out deadwood was cancelled, and I still haven't renewed it. FU HBO.
Fabulous show
Phenomenal dialogue
Fascinating…
Milch is genius. It’s too bad Luck with Dustin Hoffman didn’t take off, that had serious potential.
It got a second season but was cancelled because horses died on set
The immortal DEADWOOD Creator DAVID MILCH:
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•••••--"The New Language of the Old West"
with Wild Bill Hickok KEITH CARRADINE
1.The Wire
2.Deadwood
3. Mad Men
4.Band of Brothers
5. NYPD Blue
6. The Americans
7.Succesion
8.Soprano's
9.Hill St. Blues
10. Better Call Saul
6 thru 10 are interchangable.
Missing The Shield, Fred
Justified.
HBO had no clue what they had till it was to late
A little more complicated than that. Basically *everybody* was to blame. The end of the show was a combination of factors 1) It was the result of corporate infighting over profits. HBO is a division of Warner Media - and Warner was co-producing "Deadwood" with Paramount studios. Long story short, through the 3 seasons, Warner and Paramount were bitching to each other about who would share a larger percentage of the profits from the show. They reached an impasse in negotiations before the 4th season was supposed to be written/go into production and both Warner and Paramount, they both walked away from the table. But it wasn't just that. 2) The second reason was that the actors' contracts were ONLY for 3 seasons, with an OPTION for a fourth season. "Deadwood" was never OFFICIALLY "canceled" - the actors' contracts simply weren't picked up for a fourth season - which was basically HBO's passive-aggressive way of canceling the show, as they told the actors that they were free from their contracts now and could do what they want - which meant a lot of them going to different opportunities, since it *looked* like a fourth season wouldn't happen - higher paying opportunities, as the show had made stars of its leads. BUT - and a lot of people don't know this: 3) HBO really *DID* try to keep it going - but they wanted Milch to start work on his "John From Cincinnatti" series at the same time - so they offered Milch a 6-episode 4th and final season of "Deadwood" - basically HALF of the usual 12, to finish up the show in a proper way that while not ideal, would have at least given it a more proper "ending". David Milch DECLINED to do that. He COULD have said yes, and we could have had a 6-episode fourth season. INSTEAD, Mich told them, "I'll do TWO 2-hour movies" to wrap up the show. And HBO was totally game for it at the time. In other words, instead of a fourth season, we would have had 2 Deadwood "movies" with the actors all still in their prime. The PROBLEM was, BECAUSE Warner/Paramount/HBO never picked up the actors' contracts during the negotiations mentioned above, not enough of the actors were available anymore to do it and gone on to other projects. LASTLY, number 4) RATINGS. The show's first season had a decent 4.5 million viewers. That number declined by HALF for its second season. And then even WORSE for its third season. In other words, it was an expensive show that nobody was watching, which equals very little profit in return for Warner and Paramount - especially when the show was constantly going over budget - by a *lot* - with each episode costing almost $5 million - and no ratings to justify it. So - yeah. A LOT of contributing factors ended the show.
The writing was very Shakespearian
Loved the show and glad I got to bing it… I’m only sorry it was unceremoniously cancelled and the movie was produced many years later when his writing was impacted by health and Hollywood had begun its slide into a horseshit filled though fare of indistinguishable slop
I haven't watched it myself (I follow someone who does and thus where a bulk of my knowledge comes from), but is a shame so many boomers who pretend they have virgin ears get all ruffled because of the vulgarity, and didn't give the series a chance. I try to tell my dad what's it's trying to do, but he's SO DAMN fixated on "every other word is the C word, or the F word." (especially when he swears a blue streak at any mild inconvenience) when it's true they didn't use the modern vulgarity we know as swearing, Much of their swears at the time would be considered very tame by our standards, so he substituted modern vulgarity to convey the same impact to the audience.
awesome
Brilliant I'm gob smacked
Totally agree,
Great show- as long as you can set aside the huge deviations from fact pertaining to the historical figures used as characters. Some of the imagined reality was trivial, but some dishonored the memories and lives of the real people. Do their descendants care? Maybe not. But would you like it if it was you being fictionalized for the purposes of a more compelling story?
Imagine the combined IQ of these genius creators. 300 maybe
Something about this show
In my opinion the scene where Hickok got shot. Was a suicide by proxy
One of the greatest cocksucking shows ever made. No surprise then, that this is one of the best "making of" pieces ever endeavored. Interviewed by one of your show's own seasoned actors, intelligent questions and fucking answers, all interspersed with scenes from the show illustrative of the very points of fucking contention? You've got a working fucking gold claim there.
We would still have Deadwood if there was more cowbell.
I doubt Rings of Power ever put any deeper meaning into the series. Good writing is alfa and omega.
Discourse is always different when everyone carries. HA
One of the last great shows. Don't get me wrong there have been many good shows that depict the past pretty well, but the industry leans WAY too much on CGI now. Like old time England depicted in the peaky blinders is pretty freakin cool, but u can def tell the majority of the visual effects aren't practically done anymor.
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My daughter and I pay homage to David Milch's Deadwood: ruclips.net/video/1HXC9azwn2U/видео.html
David is the best , the only guy that come close is the writer western series is the writer Sheridan western series as of late , all of them even the Kevin Costner modern set rancher one.
The earliest known use of the word " cocksucker" was 1880, Deadwood was 1876 , this is inaccurate but entertaining, most people probably wouldn't of sworn as much as this program projects.
Wait, Dick Cheney created _Deadwood_ ?
Dude reminds me of Jerry Lewis.
Keith Carradine was in a very controversial film "PRETTY BABY"🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
He equates morality with economics. No surprises there, given certain facts.
You're scared to talk straight, Genova?
Order? Economic, legal, moral, sexual order?? NOPE!!!
That bs with having to have modern curse words ruined it
dreadful show
Freedom of choice and opinion. But it is in a huge minority
Well, there’s always Dumb and Dumber if the intellectual level of Deadwood ain’t your cup of tea.