Should You Buy An Eastwood QST - 30/60 Air Compressor + Bonus How To Do Monthly Maintenance
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2022
- We got a new air compressor for the shop! It was time for an upgrade, and decided to go with the Eastwood QST - 30/60 Scroll Compressor.
If you're considering purchasing one of these for yourself, check out our video 1st for a straight up honest review.
If you already own it and want to know how to do your monthly maintenance to keep it running in good condition, I cover that towards the end of the video.
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I've had my compressor for 6 months and have not had any issues with water in the oil ,the secret is it has to run enough to evaporate the water from the oil if it doesn't get warm enough its going to build water , the tank of all compressors will have water
A year later mine still works like a charm. My pressure switch would not shut off, but i found that it was just set too high for the cut-off pressure. A little adjustment is all it took. Add an automatic drain valve to the bottom of the tank; electronic or pneumatic controlled and you never have to drain the tank. Make sure to run the compressor long enough to let the oil heat up; so that the moisture can evaporate and move to the air tank. If you are only running it for 5 minutes to fill up your tires; you will have issues.
I was considering one of these today.... thanks for the information!
I’ve heard people having having the same experiences you had . I personally have owned one of these for almost 2 years now. The only thing I’ve ever replaced is the switch, and they actually sent me a new one with the machine and recommended that I swap them out. As far as the water collection goes, you were talking about I have almost no water in my oil whatsoever. I do run my air compressor a lot I’m thinking, maybe the heat burns most of the water vapor off although I can’t be sure, I’ve had no oil coming out near the pressure switch. One thing I do put on all of my compressors and maybe this helps I put an automatic drain assembly on all of my air compressors that will actually drain any water condensate out of the bottom every 45min to an hour. Maybe that’s one of the key factors that’s helping me have a good experience anyway, I wish you guys the best. Hope you have good luck too.
That duty cycle you’ve got is definitely the right one for this machine. Rotary units have a 100% duty cycle. His old I/R recip is a 60% duty cycle machine. This makes a difference in how they’re applied.
Yep, I've heard of the term "Cherry picker" for the engine yanker. Was a common term around the shop. Thanks for the review of the compressor, was going to take the plunge but decided not to since the monthly "maintenance" schedule is total BS. I wont be buying one anytime soon, not until they correct the issue anyway. Thanks again.
I only drain the water under pressure being careful to just crack the valve open. I don’t bother tilting the unit. 10-20 second job every few weeks. It’s true about ditching the cover - Eastwood even recommends this in one of their videos.
The only complaint I have it when it vents after a fill cycle. That hiss is way too loud and long. Defeats the purpose of having a quiet compressor. I’ve been meaning to plumb a diffuser to the switch assembly.
Originally from New Jersey here and instinctively refer to it as a cherry picker but will adjust the term to engine hoist depending on who I'm talking to. I keep hearing negative things about the QST 30/60 and probably will go with a standard 60 gallon compressor that is louder and much cheaper but more maintenance-free and less worries. Thanks for sharing this info! 👍
Well done vid!
Very informative!!
Good luck with all future water/oil separation procedures. Certainly looks to be a PIA!!
Thank you!
They sent me a moisture catch bottle this past month for mine. I have to empty that every couple of days in addition to the draining the oil tank of moisture. Also filled my garage with smoke upon first use because the pressure switch failed and it wouldn’t cycle off. They’ve sent me an upgraded pressure switch. They told me the oil spitting out the pressure relief was because I over filled the oil tank. The instructions of how to read the dipstick says full-safe zone-min. Full doesn’t mean what it does in the rest of the world, I was instructed to fill it within the safe zone. I’ve now spent about 6 hours total on fixing a $2600 compressor that I’ve used 5 times. Wouldn’t recommend this compressor to anyone until Eastwood does more R&D.
wow, thanks for sharing your experience, I never received a catch bottle, wonder if I reached out they would send one. I had the same experience with smoke in the garage, it wasn't really smoke as much as it was oil vapor though, terrible experience, I woke up to it not shutting off because I didn't flip the breaker each evening, now I do every night when I'm done in the shop just in case the new pressure switch does the same thing.
Same here. Same stupid issues. Wish a passed on this compressor, but now stuck with it.
same here
same problem twice now and I rely on this thing to paint weekly. Spend 25 minutes everyday going over thsi thing and it uses a lot of oil with thia design, it wasn't originally mentioned that Id have to do all this daily maintenance and draining etc, so pissed I never would have bought this, Id I knew all this bs!
Rotary screw compressors will also get water in the oil if they aren’t run long enough to get up to a temperature at which they can flash that water off (vaporize it). How long does this scroll compressor run before shutting down? Your old recip was on every 10 mins you said… how long did it run for? It’s possible your duty cycle is too low for the scroll. Compressors like screws, scrolls, and vanes want to run and get hot.
A reasonable fix might be to reinstall the recip to use its tank for added storage and extend your load/unload cycles.
I’ve been in the Compressed Air industry for 25 years. I have no experience with oil lubricated scroll compressors, but applying what I know of rotary screws to this technology.
Awesome! The marketing folks at eastwood are good. I was tempted to buy one, but the abundance of paid promos made me suspect. You confirmed my suspicions. Im running a 1959 (model year) Gardner Denver that runs like a dream. Thanks for the vid. Cheers
Eastwood has a written procedure for this on their website, they know about the problem, I agree they should fix it. but no where in it does it say to use a rag tied around the unloader valve. After you service this that oil will not spray out any more, it only does it if it accumulates to an overflow level.
Apparently this guy doesn't drain his tank daily as all the placards tell you to do, you should never get that much water from your tank, you are asking for corrosion and possible cracking of the tank!
And then, use the short hose off the oil tank drain off the end, instead of the side where you can hold a container....I can't say this guy is the brightest crayon in the box!
I changed my lid bolts over to 10mm hex heads, this whole process takes me about ten mins. once a month because I don't drain the tank once a month, I do it every day like you should!
Obviously you are one of the few guys that really knows how to maintain a compressor the right way. You always drain it every day at the end of the day and never leave the power on all night.
Well, I'm on my second unit because the first unit's pressure switch wouldn't turn it off at 150 psi. The unit kept running, getting so hot that it led to catastrophic pressure build-up, spewing black smoke in my shop. Since then, they have sent me a new unit, pressure switch, and moisture drain kit. The new pressure switch is a much better design and turns off like it's supposed to. Thanks for sharing your frustration. I agree with you, and I'm spending a bit more next time for a nicer air compressor and using the Eastwood as a backup!
Thanks for sharing your story, same thing happened to me and I woke up to a garage full of oil vapor/smoke. I never got anything from Eastwood except a replacement pressure switch.
I actually just found this video because my 30/60 completely filled up my garage with black smoke today. I assume it is toast but we’ll see in the morning I guess. Even though it is an expensive unit it was so much cheaper than other alternatives I never really investigated oil coming out of the switch or anything because I figured it was just kind of a shitty compressor from the get-go. Turns out it has had every symptom leading up to today’s failure. It is exactly 3 months and 8 days old.
if i remember right that compressor runs hot i think if you upgrade your cooling fan, or mount a water cooled heat sink on the cooling radiator it will stop the condensation issue and it will last longer to.
Just called Eastwood. For the past month they've been shipping the fix. I asked if is safe to say new units will come equipped in six months. The answer was absolutely. I was targeting this since my shop uses a horizontal compressor nook. It's the perfect form factor. Do you have any updates regarding that?
I don’t plan on using a lot of air all the time. I think the smartest thing to do is to buy the quietest 30 gallon compressor. I’m going to start with two units and hook them up in parallel pneumatically, and maybe go with three units if I need a lot of cfm. I can replace, move, and multiply if need be. I was thinking about purchasing this scroll compressor, but reliability is the most important factor in my purchase.
Good info. First time I've seen someone talk about the maintenance and rag.
BTW - I'm from the south but have lived all over the country and cherry picker is what 99% call it. I think it's snobs that correct anyone, which has happened once or twice.
Appreciate it
Is all the water in that tub from just this draining?! Holy crap! Just buy the smallest screw without a tank. I finally bought my dream compressor, a QRS10 with a refrigerator dryer.
I was planning on purchasing one but not anymore. Thanks
it's a cheery picker for sure..NYer here
I've had mine for 10 months and it is pretty much dead. I called Eastwood and it took them 3 days to call back and they said they would have to send it to engineering to figure out. They mentioned a replacement unit. I had to go buy a couple of different air compressors to keep my shop running. I'll be looking for a different solution than Eastwood.
GS Compressor 42 cfm 10 hp single phase. I would add an elbow and a 6 inch nipple and then the ball valve on the tank bottom.
Cherry picker here in Idaho too
In Ontario we call it a Cherry picker and OMG thats alot of water.
The first thing I bought when I bought my house was an Eaton rotary screw compressor. I knew I didn't want the sound or vibration of a piston compressor cycling on and off. The after cooler fan is the loudest component when the unit is on. A hair dryer is probably louder. I was intrigued by this Eastwood compressor when I first saw it in terms of perhaps recommending to friends as an alternative... Thanks for your review and for showing the maintenance required. Pretty crazy that they think that's acceptable.
Yes, I've always heard engine hoists called "cherry pickers" but I grew up in Northern Maryland.
I’ve always drained my tanks daily. I don’t see how that process takes 30 minutes but then again it did take you a long time to jab that Tupperware in there. Find a better fitting drain pan for the bottom and extend that clear hose to reach it and this job would take less than a minute.
Cherry picker is legit in Utah
How often did you drain the water from your old compressor? That needs to be done regularly, too. Many people put automatically operating drain valves on the bottom of their tanks. Too bad they're not standard equipment.
Can I ask you, how does that take half an hour to do? Like do you count the coffee break to that time or..?
I was gonna buy one but after reading all the negative reviews on this I just can't. I'll get a standard 60 gallon 2 stage 5 hp single phase. I was looking at the DeWalt at my Fleet Farm. Model DXCMV5076055 for $1699.99. Anyone have any personal use on this model they want to share?
Also I'm 60 years old, have been a mechanic all my life, was a radar technician in the Air Force and am currently an Electro-Mechanical Technician. I have always called these "cherry pickers" as well as most everyone I know. We call them engine hoists too! But thanks for this video. People need to see this. I have just written Eastwood to see if they have fixed these issues as well.
I've spent my career in industrial environments all over the country, and I've never heard of an engine hoist referred to as a "cherry picker". In my experience, the term is usually applied to a scissor-type man lift. An engine hoist is...an engine hoist, or just "hoist". It doesn't have enough working height to pick much of anything...maybe tomatoes.
It's a Midwest thing.
Also Canada I guess, lots of people call em cherry pickers
I'm 60 and my whole life I've heard them called cherry picker.
Good for you. I've heard it referred to as cherry picker since I was a kid and I was born in CA. Not sure what "industrial environment" you're working in, but it wasn't anywhere around cars or you would have heard this.
So the supposed fix for the switch issue is a drain bottle, lol. I would just attach a longer tube and let it drain into a milk jug. Then cap and recycle as needed.
As for draining, it can be VERY easy.
1. Get an auto drain valve for the bottom Mechanical or electrical, your choice. Run the tube into your pan or an old milk jug.
2. For the oil, just get a longer drain tube that runs into the pail itself.
3. Topping off the oil, OMG at the procedure. People got lazy with the regular compressor changing their oil once every 5-10 years.
Not good for medium to high humidity areas. Maybe Arizona would be good. I drain once a month, depending on usage. Oil refill topoffs adds to cost of operation. Like the quiet operation.
I installed an automatic drain that opens up every 15 minutes for 2 seconds And never had that much water build up in the tank, I have however noticed that after long periods of not using the compressor it will drain only oil at the first purge in the beginning of usage that day. I don't use my compressor as much as I thought I would so can't really recommend what long term usage might be even though I've had it for 2 years. The auto drain can be setup anywhere from opening up every 30 seconds up to every 45 minuts and can open up for half a second up to 9 seconds.
Are you talking about draining from the large air tank? The major issue is water getting into the High Pressure Oil tank. I'm not sure it would be safe to open the high pressure oil tank for a couple seconds with an automatic valve. Everything says to remove all pressure prior to opening the oil tank.
@@theerbstead6205 you are correct, large tank, didn't even realize that water getting into the oil reservoir was am issue, and you might be right about it not being safe even for a few seconds. Sorry for the misunderstanding if any.
Install an automatic bottom drain. Some of your complaints are not realistic. I’ve ran, installed, and maintained a number of different brands, types and sizes of compressors. They all produce water in the air. They all need to be drained, they all require regular maintenance. Even that Quincy you want will require weekly maintenance.
Just curious, how many hours would you estimate you run the compressor? As a hobbyist I use an old 1.6hp 26 gallon compressor - it's old, loud, can't run many tools for long - including my plasma cutter. I estimate using a compressor for about 1 hour per month right now and that'll increase to about 5-40 hours per month soon for DA sander, paint gun, and other items. Currently I empty the air tank after every use. Just trying to get a feel for your usage compared to mine before I commit to the Eastwood or any other competitor or type of compressor. The Eastwood is at the top of my budget. Actually the absolute ceiling. 🤣
So I just went down to the shop to get pretty accurate numbers. When my lasers are on they're using between 20 and 30 psi , the compressor cycles on for 1 minute then sits off for 1 minute. So, it's on about 50% of the time that I'm consuming air. Of course the on time will increase depending on what psi you're using on your tools, I'd imagine a DA or Paint Sprayer needs more than the 30psi I'm using. I hope that's helpful for you.
Sorry you want through this too man. Mines a pile.
Who ever trained you how to maintain a air compressor? They obviously didn’t explain it very well.
There is NO problem with this compressor. This is how scrolls with oil tanks work. You must DRAIN everyday before turning on. If your high humidity location, It will have more water then low humidity location. If it does not get nice and very hot just like a car engine, it will have water. This is one of the best for size price and sound your going to find. They need to put in the intrusions to drain daily. If not spend $$$ and get one that take the oil out of the water for you. There are some great ones for $6K.
I read all eastwood instructions prior to buying it and they never discussed removing the cap and draining any water. Only like all compressors drain water from the airtank itself. The amount of oil this compressor spits out in the airtank, pressure reliefs is ridiculous and really not what I would call acceptable. Even for a 2500 usd machine.
@@kwakernaak78 I know what you mean. In my case we have low humidity, but scroll compressors are notorious for moisture. The only way to solve it is you drain or you can also install as you probably won’t know the water separator. It’s expensive but it will remove the moisture. You would need to jump to about $5000 or more for the next level of compressor that would alleviate this problem so what they’re offering here is half the price if you’re willing to drain.
Well it's a pain, but for $2k, if that's all you can afford... Seems tolerable. There isn't anything new available for $3-5k. Everything decent seems to be $8k minimum nowadays.
Yeah, so any thought I had of buying one of these just flew out the window. What a PITA and what a mess. No way this thing is going to last a decade or more like any decent piston compressor will.
Mine lasted a week before it had a catastrophic failure. Eastwood is well aware of the many issues that plague this unit. Save yourself $3k and don’t buy one.
This is a scroll compressor. It literally says it on the side.
I initially loved this compressor because of how quiet it was but now I have major buyers remorse after the water/oil mixing issues ive had with it. My power switch broke too. Will never buy an eastwood compressor again honestly what a piece of shit.
Oh God not a half hour a month! How would I live with myself. I might have to give up watching random RUclips videos for 30 min in exchange for a super quiet compressor.
Don’t buy mine went out not even a year
Buy a vane compressor. Hydrovane. They run 1800 rpm not 5000-6000 like a screw compressor. Quiet, won't fill your shop with smoke and fire like this POS
I do believe this saves me from making a 3K mistake.
I use it every day, and both my wife and I are always tending to it. We talk about selling it all the time and getting a rotary screw from Quincy. Even more so since making this video.. Eastwood was nice enough to send me a sticker recently to put on it that warns of dangers of fire, to be used as a reminder to disconnect the electricity when not in use (must of been an insurance / liability thing their lawyers told them to send out to people who bought it... ) either way nothing to address the actual issue of the machine.