There were 5 moments in this mod that made my jaw drop and go holy sh*t. lol 1) Metal Harbor's entire first section. I LOVE you start in the Jail cell and escape. Also there's water running!? 2) White Jungle, the ending completely caught me off guard. Such a cool add on, using the trees around the goal ring. 3) Sky Rail - What, we have a controllable rocket now!? 4) Rainbow Road is pretty sick. 5) City Escape changing from Day to Sunset is awesome as well. Great job to everyone involved making the mod! :) I thought the physics matched the changed stages much better this time around as well. Only odd thing is some of the later stages certain audio clips cut out. I tried rebooting the game, still didn't help.
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Don't know if anybody noticed, but I loved how the sky in city escape transitions from a bright blue to a sunset sorta look the closer you got to the end of the level, explains why it was nighttime when Sonic fought Bigfoot.
I will never not love shadows run animations, that smooth skate at high speeds is one of my favorite parts of his character and you guys nailed it in this.
I really find the animation satisfying when he reaches high speeds and skates faster to keep up. Not a fan of those videos that have shadow spin dash slopes because it ruins the transition from casual skating to speed skating
except in his own game where i absolutely thought it looks dorky as f. not at all elegant but rather like a stocky kid on ice skates. To an extend that applied to heroes as well, that's where they started to make him smaller and wider, it feels. Perhaps has something to do with widescreen gaining popularity at the time.
Absolutely insane. Really goes to show how the adventure formula still holds up and has tons of potential. Sonic team should have kept iterating on it instead of abandoning it
@@zev2x762 I don’t mind the idea of boosting, but it would’ve been more effective if it was earned for mastering the art of platforming, rather than activated by a singular button. Sonic Advance 2 and 3 did it, though it didn’t let you be invincible that way.
Didn't they though? I mean I also want to see it make a return, but Heroes, Shadow, and 06 were all interesting iterations of the formula, and each of them had a lot of great ideas. I mean I'm glad we have the boost formula, but we all know about the unfortunate backlash from 06.
I love how much more panicked the GUN officers sound in City Escape! Adds some real emotion to the scene. And I love how Sonic actually "responded" to them in the beginning!
@@NeroV1L3 I mean outside of the model swap for sonic and the other characters, the game looks pretty much the same and the physics are still as wonky as they ever were.
@@BladeDevil someone clearly hasn't played SA2 in a while, that game is as smooooth as it gets outside of a couple interactions with collision, better than holding one button down and letting the game play for you that's for sure *cough cough sonic forces*
I think my favorite part of this mod, is the fact that it's clear they massively enhanced the moveset, distance and speed characters could move and jump... however; rather then leave the levels the same, and thereby have a system that breaks the old level design; old levels are reinterpreted in a way that rewards you for using the new enhanced moveset; such as adding alternate paths you can only take using this function. It's a really nice touch. I also really like that Shadow uses his victory theme from Shadow the Hedgehog instead of the normal victory jingle. It fits his character far more.
So far I've only seen City Escape, but personally I think my biggest issue with this is the speed. The levels were designed with Sonic's original speed in mind, so without making the size of the level bigger (or Sonic smaller) to compensate, it looks like the momentum causes certain parts to not flow as well (extremely overshooting item bubbles, overshooting one spot that he's obviously stopped by an invisible wall, overshooting ring trails meant for light dash, the Gold GUN Beetle disappearing due to Sonic flinging so high he didn't have a chance to really attack, etc), on top of the fact that when Sonic gets launched pretty high you notice a lot more of the level design people aren't meant to notice because it breaks the illusion with missing walls and other scenery because, in the original, you wouldn't be seeing things from those angles most of the time in normal circumstances. Everything else seems amazing, between new routes, graphics upgrades, and new sound effects. But either the level needs to be altered to accommodate the new speed, or Sonic's speed needs to be reverted back to what it was in the original game.
The timing worked out perfectly with coming upon the familiar part of the level as the extended intro of the track was ending and the familiar intro was beginning.
Though I did notice the soundtrack sounds really compressed in the video. Not sure if it was the way the video was recorded though as Green hill Zone? on the Amy version actually sounded right. I hope it's just the recording though. Really love when audio uses the full soundstage of your headphones or speakers.
The adventure formula had longer (no pun intended) legs than the Boost formula. The devs have more control over the player’s speed and can create more engaging ways of gaining speed through momentum than “Press X to instantly hit max speed”
Yeah unfortunately Sega is too dumb to realize the fact that '06 and Boom's failure had nothing to do with the fact that they were Adventure style games...
@@Alex_Off-Beat Yeah and the fact that the boost is completely optional in Sonic Frontiers is telling. Boosting is more likely to cause the level to restart if you don't reach a checkpoint. Yet the boost is needed to gain certain items in the air.
The boost formula 100% works, and is imo even more fun than the adventure formula when done right; it's just a different design philosophy. Instead of the challenge being gaining speed, the challenge is keeping your speed. Games like Unleashed intentionally place a lot of hazards in your way to prevent you from just holding X so you really have to watch out and be ready to avoid the obstacles so you can keep blasting through the level.
@@WaterKirby1994because for something sonics size to comfortably run on water he’d only need to go around 70 mph. He can easily run on water so it makes perfect sense.
It's a mixed bag to me. Probably my least favorite aspect is the sound design. Random stock sound effects, Generations UI sounds and Jason Griffith voice lines, it all feels plucked at random. I think the one thing I really like is the updated animations, those look pretty cool. Everything else though I'm iffy about.
Exactly my thoughts. Ignoring the obvious bugs/lack of sound tuning, the sounds are all over the place and don't fit the soundtrack from SA2 and are extremely annoying mainly in City Escape. The physics are too fast for SA2 levels which can most likely allow you to do tons of level skips (or just die falling off the map lol). And the new level paths (or whatever those are called), a few of those are nice (like the Piramid entrance) but there are also some of them that are just random clutter to the levels. IMO this would be a great mod if they just tweaked the levels layout with "new" physics in mind (if the modders really want to keep it) and removed those random sound effects + voice lines.
Honestly if they were to change the voice clips they should've taken them from Heroes seeing as each VA that transitioned from SA2 to Heroes improved on their characters and sound better than their 4kids VAs.
I really like some of the expansions to levels, but fully agree on the sounds. The amount of dialogue and voice lines in City Escape was very distracting. I'd like to see more textures updated rather than messing with so many sound qualities.
I agree and it's blowing my mind how many people are praising these aspects. This is in the same vein as Ocarina of Time on Unreal Engine to me. It feels like this was made because someone just wants this game on current gen graphics. I'll likely just stick with SA2 on steam and mod it. It is cool to see this and I like some of what has been done here, but it doesn't seem that different from what modders can do even if this might be leagues harder to pull off than modding.
@@Saucy_Wiggles With the fan-made HD Ocarina of Time, it doesn't even look like Ocarina of Time. Like, did they not ever look at the official artwork for that game?
I'd say it's Generations easily first. Simply because while they're both beloved and readily available on basically everything, Generations has the added bonus of being a more simple game and gives even classic fans something to like. And even while SA2 has a much better story than Generations, the Adventure games have both aged like milk and are VERY rough nowadays, especially if you play them unmodded
One thing that I really really REALLY loved from this mod was the fact that there was the remix of Stage Select by Husky by the geek. I heard that remix a few years ago and it’s always been stuck in my head. Now that I’ve heard it again in this mod made it so much more complete! Oh, and I know that it’s already been said but I freaking love how Metal Harbor and Pyramid Cave started out of Sonic’s jail cell and outside the cave respectively. It feels more like a playable cutscene than anything. Speaking of which, I loved the remix songs of these stages! Especially Metal Habor and Pyramid Cave. Those remixes were ones that I scrolled by years ago through RUclips and it’s great that you made great use of them again.
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36:00 Sonic driving the legendary BMW M3 GTR from Need For Speed Most Wanted? Incredible, one of my dreams finally come true. Honestly I have not seen much of this mod but I really liked it a lot, except for one thing and that is that they have put the voice of Jason Griffith to Sonic in this mod. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against his voice, but I prefer to play Sonic Adventure 2 with Ryan Drummond's voice, although I also prefer to play Shadow with Jason Griffith's voice. I just hope they also add an option to change character voices.
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I don't know if this was intentional but the beginning of vanilla Metal Harbor syncing up to the beginning of the vanilla Metal Harbor music at 6:44 was amazing
I really appreciate the little changes you’ve made to keep the flow state going. The drop, increased influence off the rocket, and map changes really let you break the levels further than the original. Well done
This looks incredible! The reimagined levels gives you more exploration similar to sonic adventure 1 and the remixes are a nice touch. I also like how they extended the levels by adding little story segments at the start of levels.
Woaah, this is so cool ! SA2 is my favorite childhood game. I love the work you put into this. So much attention to details, and the music is so sick as well. Great job !
Also, having watched more into it, I can safely say that this mod is AMAZING. Once they iron out the kinks and polish out some of those weird physics issues, this might very well become the definitive way to play SA2. I look forward to seeing the completed form of this mod. Pretty damn hype adding extra avenues and things to explore.
This is how you remake a classic. This looks phenomenal with what has been done. The character models, new animations, music, little things here and there. If the textures were updated it would make this game really sparkle.
Words can't express my amazement by this project! SA2 is near and dear to my heart. All of the advancements to the levels, especially the prison break and 4:25 all those blimps saying Maria? Truly brilliant.
YOOOOOOOOOO!!!! THE BMW!!!!! THATS CRAZY!!!!!!! I wonder how tf end up in the sonic world..... Imagine that in a future update, Shadow would drive the Ford Mustang or the Chevrolet Corvette 😵😵😵😵😃😃😃😃
There's a lot in this mod that I really like, there s also a lot that I really don't like. I love a lot of the level additions like the new ring trails and alternate routes. I like the new openings for skyrail and Metal harbor. A lot of it is really good. But I think sonic is too fast. It breaks the flow of the levels and just seems clunky in a lot of areas. I also think they went a little overboard with some of the levels. Metal Harbor just has way too much on going on. I also hate how they got rid of the ending with the rocket and the skating. I also don't like the new ending to white jungle. It just seems clunky. Same with the new intro to Pyramid Cave. Overall there's a lot of good here. But it definitely needs to be refined and have some of the fat trimmed
Sonic driving an e46 M3 gives me all the best kind of nostalgia for my early high school years 2001-2003 when the Dreamcast and reading car magazines was my whole life.
I have to appreciate some of Sonic's expressions here, mostly in the truck section of City Escape (2:41 is where it's most obvious). It's kinda neat that even with the modern model he can still look just as expressive as he used to. I also have to appreciate the running animation, the way he not only follows through with each step but overshoots each as well. It just has so much power and velocity to it, yet it remains smooth. Reminds me of the pre-rendered cutscenes in Sonic 06.
Green Forest was the best stage to really complement the speed of this character mod. If they tone back the speed a tad to where you don’t over shoot parts of the level then it will be right in pocket.
It is good for speed runs but I do see your point for newbies it would be something to get accustomed to . I'd personally hate to over shoot a spin and jump just to miss an important spring or trail of rings
10 minutes I'm so far and this is lovely! Edit: I really like all the small changes all over the place. Edit2: Really feels like a "Hold my beer" kind of mod. Edit3: When you hit that Chao that sent chills down my spine. You did the world a service. Edit4: Skyrail blew my mind...
There's no way someone thought of putting the NFSMW MC's car in kart mode LMAO This mod is a work of art! I loved all the new paths included, but my favorite has to be the prison break sequence in Metal Harbor, omg that was a genius idea
I can never put into words the amount of excitement and pure joy that possesses me whenever I see the City Escape sequence... This was definitely not an exception!!
I dont even know what to say, but this feels.... off. Basically like doing a fan remake of SA 2, with all the caviets that come with it. Theres stuff i like, stuff i dont, and stuff that just leaves me with more questions than answers. Its ambitious, maybe too much so. Its crazy that all this is just built ontop of SA 2, when it almost looks like its running in the sonic infinity engine or something
Agreed. I don't like Sonic's running animation. He used to jog and flail his hands while running, then once he builds momentum, he starts running with his hands behind him. Same for Shadow.
Sonic Adventure 2 was one of my favorite games as a kid, and is still one of my favorite games of all time. Watching this hit me with a massive wave of nostalgia. This looks absolutely phenomenal!! I would kill to play a Sonic Adventure 2 remaster that looks like this!
Sonic when he runs past and flips a bunch of vehicles, commiting several counts of hit and run, and vehicular manslaughter on innocent ordinary people, and families: FEELIN' GOOD!
I remember playing Sonic Adventure 2 when it came out and thinking it was the first time that what made 2D sonic gameplay successful was accurately translated to 3D. This takes it to the next level and continues to refine that success. Absolutely awesome.
As a whole I find this incredible. Those level modifications look almost like they fit with the original game for the most part. Only a few nitpicks I have about it. First is that while the majority of the texture work looks fantastic, there's a few areas like the outside of the pyramid on Pyramid Cave and the box room on Final Race looked off. Second are a few level mods looked a bit outlandish and probably hard to replicate consistently like the lightspeed dash near the end of White Jungle. I'd say White Jungle was honestly one of the sloppier works from what I saw. It is without a doubt impressive, but I think they went a bit overboard with throwing stuff in it. Lastly is that I noticed a lot of the new additions have very little to back you up if you fail. Most of them seem to be a hail marry risk jump with no punishment other than death. It's an issue people already have with Adventure 2, but I think a lot of the level changes seem to exacerbate this. Not every mistake should be a death, but they should be punished. Something I think they should watch.
Great job showing off this mod! You taking the time to post incredibly skilled looking runs is why I stay and watch until the end. I'm from Miami and I saw that 600 points says "Fire." It didn't always say Fire right? They added that because it's modern? I realized I can't handle my Sonic's slang NOT being very outdated.
There's so much I can say obviously. I'll keep it short: shadows run animation is the best I've seen. I love his super long strides. Also I love how you included voice clips from all the eras of sonic! Hearing some sonic 06 voice clips makes me happy 😊
I like the well kept tradition of doing tricks off of the ramps and missing the power ups in City Escape while not really understanding why, but now with the twist that you far overshoot them rather than falling short. 😂
I had my observations regarding some small aspects of the mod/overhaul. Some things I would've weighed before trying this out... And then Sonic driving the M3 happened. I no longer have any observations. This is the best mod/overhaul ever.
I just played SA2 today and it was SOOOO hype to see how many new pathways were in lvls like city escape metal harbor, and pyramid cave. The remixes were so hype, I felt like I was being possessed🥴
This is an incredible expansion. I have no other way to say it. The fact that you all managed to expand the original SA2 formula to this degree is mind blowing. Legit, I cannot stress enough how damn impressive this is! From the day to night transition of City Escape to the expansion on Metal Harbor and White Jungle and Sky Rail, I'm at a loss for words. Me and a friend of mine were literally talking yesterday about how the fan community for Sonic is so ravenous and arguably knows what to do with Sonic and crew better than Sega in a lot of cases and this just goes to show it. Major kudos on this achievement! Also, as much as I love Sonic, literally since way back in '92, Shadow just has such a cool factor around him that can't be ignored or set aside. The Boom memes about his coolness will never not be true, they nailed his character from the start and he needs a prominent role in the franchise again so badly.
This project seriously needs more attention from people, this upgrade freaking rocks! I'm really digging the extra bits that add to the stage itself like the prison escape section. We can really see the efforts made on this one, and that is something that demands praise!
Jaw dropped on the opening of Metal Harbor. And that Sky Rail scenery change is amazing. Not sure why Sega hasnt brought back or done something with the Pumpkin Hill/Sky Rail/Aquatic Mine/Red Mountain area in later games or even some kind of cool horror game in that setting. I've always love the aesthetic of it
bro that part in metasl harbor where you get out of the jail and by the time you get in the actual level music changes to the original theme, man, you guys crushed it
I really like Shadow’s skating animation. Really smooth and kinda shows the power in his shoes’ jet power. Makes it look like he’s going faster in a way. That’s how I see it. Really cool.
Radical Highway changing a lot of signs to mirror Shadow's current distorted mindset was actually a pretty epic details (From the Maria? blimps to Gerald Ave, Kill Them All, etc.)
Music, speed, rewarding gameplay, graphics, newer areas, all of that looks fantastic. Really excited about the finished product: and comments, don't go too hard. Nitpick if u want, but it ain't done yet.
Everything in this mod is absolutely incredible. Only complaint woul be some of the level design doesn’t really work. Metal Harbours intro is really cool but pyramid cave’s feels unnecessary and kinda slow. Feels like a completely different stage to the rest of pyramid cave. Also not a fan of the random dash panels in crazy gadget
Tbh as a non sonic fan I enjoy sonic adventure 2 and its been a big part of my childhood and seeing fans remaster this masterpiece of a game is amazing
I feel like it shouldn't be 'modernized' so much as refined. Polish it and expand it, but don't take too much artistic liberty or it's gonna throw a lot of people off. Understand what people like about it and you'll know what to improve.
It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely an achievement, and it does it’s job. Not really mind blowing to me but I’m sure the developers worked very hard on this.
I'd buy it, why would it ever be mind-blowing? It's a game that came out 22 years ago with better graphics and some tweaks. It is infinitely better than some official remasters of games I've seen.
I don’t know what it is about hearing Jason Griffith in City Escape, but it just feels right. I always smile at the cocky way he says “Go ahead, try and stop me.”
This mod is great, I really like that they remade all the character models to look like they are from present games but still retain some amount of their SA2 roots. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say SA2 has the best artwork in any sonic game hands down. there is something so charming about it, even the original models of sonic and shadow look great! I'm very picky about how shadow should look and OMG am I so happy they re-did his shoes to look the same as they did in the original game. furthermore his facial expressions and color tone it tight! The only thing I'm skeptical on is his skating animation I'm very picky about that, I still love the original and think if it was tweaked slightly it would be fine, heck even the forces animation in previous iterations was great. I know its hard to model something like that and make it look fluent so props to the mod creators. I also do not like how he looks at the camera so angrily when completing the stage I think he should have a light smile. Thats one reason I loved shadow so much in SA2 was because he was so confident in himself and showed actual emotion in dialogue, something his own game butchered and became a staple meme for years to come lol! I also hope they re make the SOAP shoes and have it as an option for sonic. Besides from my minor gripes I think this is one absolute banger of a mod and If there is one thing I think would put the cherry on top is if the characters had in level dialogue they say to themselves as they progress through the map. thats something I really liked in modern sonic games like forces. And they have some breathing room for a few lines since both shadow and sonic will mumble to themselves if idling for too long in one spot. I also pray they at least keep the original Live and Learn in the final boss fight or use the sonic 30th anniversary remix that was amazing too! I also think it would be cool if they could somehow revamp the sonic vs shadow boss fight on the ark to be more in depth, like having powers ups from multiplayer. And speaking of multiplayer I cannot wait to see what they do for that! I cannot tell you how many hours I dumped into SA2 multiplayer beating all my friends with Shadow lol! And I would die if they could somehow add super form power ups to multiplayer as well as new stages. Anyways this is just my two cents, thanks for publishing such an in depth video, I might have to get my buddies over and we all play some MSA2!
I think my favorite part of this is that you didn't get cucked by a single ring on metal harbor with the ring attractor shield on. Lord knows how many times I died trying to lightspeed dash across some rings, only for one ring to separate, and then send me spiraling into the ocean.
Interesting mod. Metal Harbor was really great, but I think overall the physics change seems a bit awkward. Sonic and Shadow fly through the stages in ways they weren't built for. And I like the additions that accommodate that, but not all stages had significant changes. And I recognize that these intros are WIPs, but I didn't really like the new openings to Pyramid Cave and Sky Rail. The former just doesn't make sense in the story (the previous stage was already inside the pyramid, why are we back out), and the latter is just....awkward.
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There were 5 moments in this mod that made my jaw drop and go holy sh*t. lol
1) Metal Harbor's entire first section. I LOVE you start in the Jail cell and escape. Also there's water running!?
2) White Jungle, the ending completely caught me off guard. Such a cool add on, using the trees around the goal ring.
3) Sky Rail - What, we have a controllable rocket now!?
4) Rainbow Road is pretty sick.
5) City Escape changing from Day to Sunset is awesome as well.
Great job to everyone involved making the mod! :) I thought the physics matched the changed stages much better this time around as well. Only odd thing is some of the later stages certain audio clips cut out. I tried rebooting the game, still didn't help.
Question: what was the music and or remix playing during the rainbow road stage?
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Needs the SA1 Spin Attack Animation, Physics and SFX
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The audio issue is caused by Higher Draw Distance. Too many assets are loading and the game craps itself 😂
If there’s any critique/feedback, please lemme know!
@@TheeMentorDex Of course it was.. The one other mod I kept on. Lol
Don't know if anybody noticed, but I loved how the sky in city escape transitions from a bright blue to a sunset sorta look the closer you got to the end of the level, explains why it was nighttime when Sonic fought Bigfoot.
That is a legendary detail
I always wondered how the sun just disappeared like that. Now I know it’s because it became night time. OOHHHHHHHHH!
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Yeah, yeah, yeah… I prefer the Dreamcast version, anyway…
who knew daytime only lasted a few minutes
It did that in the original. Or at least battle.
I will never not love shadows run animations, that smooth skate at high speeds is one of my favorite parts of his character and you guys nailed it in this.
yeah the rocket shoes are sweet. A little difference goes a long way. Sonic runs, Shadow skates.
I really find the animation satisfying when he reaches high speeds and skates faster to keep up. Not a fan of those videos that have shadow spin dash slopes because it ruins the transition from casual skating to speed skating
Its so much better in these games compared to the new ones
except in his own game where i absolutely thought it looks dorky as f.
not at all elegant but rather like a stocky kid on ice skates. To an extend that applied to heroes as well, that's where they started to make him smaller and wider, it feels. Perhaps has something to do with widescreen gaining popularity at the time.
@@hiiambarney4489 damn bro u talking facts i remember wondering why he was so small and wide in his own game made his scate animation worse
Absolutely insane. Really goes to show how the adventure formula still holds up and has tons of potential. Sonic team should have kept iterating on it instead of abandoning it
That's what I've been saying for years🤣🤣🤣
@@zev2x762 I don’t mind the idea of boosting, but it would’ve been more effective if it was earned for mastering the art of platforming, rather than activated by a singular button. Sonic Advance 2 and 3 did it, though it didn’t let you be invincible that way.
@@robbiewalker2831 This made me wish Frontiers didn’t have the boosting and opted for momentum speed gameplay instead
Didn't they though? I mean I also want to see it make a return, but Heroes, Shadow, and 06 were all interesting iterations of the formula, and each of them had a lot of great ideas. I mean I'm glad we have the boost formula, but we all know about the unfortunate backlash from 06.
@@robraze well it seems to have a mix of the two
I love how much more panicked the GUN officers sound in City Escape! Adds some real emotion to the scene. And I love how Sonic actually "responded" to them in the beginning!
“We WILL use lethal force, if necessary”
“Heh, just try and stop me!”
Badass!
Fun Fact: Those voices are GTA V police officers
6:07 Truly poetic words coming from Big.
Big didn't have anything to say to how he got in Jail. lol
@@sonicovertime probably looking for froggy
@@sonicovertime he was fishing in restricted place.
@@ThatOneFantaGuy 7:38 And as soon as he gets out, he's right back at it. I almost missed him fishing on the right. How did he beat Sonic here?
I dont remember this area in the original?
Outside of the sound mixing (which I’m sure just has yet to be refined) this is in fact extremely mind-blowing, clear maximum effort in all areas
if you say so.
@@BladeDevil you disagree?
@@NeroV1L3 I mean outside of the model swap for sonic and the other characters, the game looks pretty much the same and the physics are still as wonky as they ever were.
@@BladeDevil someone clearly hasn't played SA2 in a while, that game is as smooooth as it gets outside of a couple interactions with collision, better than holding one button down and letting the game play for you that's for sure *cough cough sonic forces*
@@NeroV1L3 frontiers? you must mean forces
I think my favorite part of this mod, is the fact that it's clear they massively enhanced the moveset, distance and speed characters could move and jump... however; rather then leave the levels the same, and thereby have a system that breaks the old level design; old levels are reinterpreted in a way that rewards you for using the new enhanced moveset; such as adding alternate paths you can only take using this function. It's a really nice touch.
I also really like that Shadow uses his victory theme from Shadow the Hedgehog instead of the normal victory jingle. It fits his character far more.
Oh hey super cute pic! ^^/
Everything you said is right
I was taking a shit watching this video and my shit hit the water at the end of that theme and it felt epic
Yeah, Metal Harbor in particular it was awesome seeing all those extra paths begging to be explored.
also ngl the new music and voice clips werent really necessary, save for shadow's victory theme
but otherwise this goes hard
So far I've only seen City Escape, but personally I think my biggest issue with this is the speed. The levels were designed with Sonic's original speed in mind, so without making the size of the level bigger (or Sonic smaller) to compensate, it looks like the momentum causes certain parts to not flow as well (extremely overshooting item bubbles, overshooting one spot that he's obviously stopped by an invisible wall, overshooting ring trails meant for light dash, the Gold GUN Beetle disappearing due to Sonic flinging so high he didn't have a chance to really attack, etc), on top of the fact that when Sonic gets launched pretty high you notice a lot more of the level design people aren't meant to notice because it breaks the illusion with missing walls and other scenery because, in the original, you wouldn't be seeing things from those angles most of the time in normal circumstances.
Everything else seems amazing, between new routes, graphics upgrades, and new sound effects. But either the level needs to be altered to accommodate the new speed, or Sonic's speed needs to be reverted back to what it was in the original game.
Nah the new speed is fine
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Totally agree. The speed is just a little too much. You can make sonic a little faster than in the original but this is just too much
Honestly this mod in general is kind of unnecessary. It just makes the game a bit worse
The ost building up into the full metal harbor ost is sick. Good stuff.
its from The sonic adventure music experience
The timing worked out perfectly with coming upon the familiar part of the level as the extended intro of the track was ending and the familiar intro was beginning.
Though I did notice the soundtrack sounds really compressed in the video. Not sure if it was the way the video was recorded though as Green hill Zone? on the Amy version actually sounded right. I hope it's just the recording though. Really love when audio uses the full soundstage of your headphones or speakers.
@@Ayacakes95 Had no idea this was a thing, I will have to look into it! Love Sonic music.
@@Skylancer727 The OST was rerecorded on different guitars and drums than the original and the sound production is different.
The adventure formula had longer (no pun intended) legs than the Boost formula. The devs have more control over the player’s speed and can create more engaging ways of gaining speed through momentum than “Press X to instantly hit max speed”
Yeah unfortunately Sega is too dumb to realize the fact that '06 and Boom's failure had nothing to do with the fact that they were Adventure style games...
@@Alex_Off-Beat od go so far as to say that if properly finished, 06 could have been the greatest Sonic game.
@@Alex_Off-Beat Yeah and the fact that the boost is completely optional in Sonic Frontiers is telling. Boosting is more likely to cause the level to restart if you don't reach a checkpoint. Yet the boost is needed to gain certain items in the air.
The boost formula 100% works, and is imo even more fun than the adventure formula when done right; it's just a different design philosophy. Instead of the challenge being gaining speed, the challenge is keeping your speed. Games like Unleashed intentionally place a lot of hazards in your way to prevent you from just holding X so you really have to watch out and be ready to avoid the obstacles so you can keep blasting through the level.
I've never expected to see this man here lol
I absolutely love what they did to metal harbor, freaking insane how much that level has been expanded.
I'm both impressed at the additions (especially Big the Cat in jail) but I'm sad the rocket-ride snowboard finale got cut.
Expanded? It ends before the 2P Stage ends, also why can you run on the water that's supposed to be the deathplane now?
@@WaterKirby1994 talking about the extra pathways
Yeah this Metal Harbor was actually alot crazier♥️♥️♥️♥️
@@WaterKirby1994because for something sonics size to comfortably run on water he’d only need to go around 70 mph. He can easily run on water so it makes perfect sense.
It's a mixed bag to me. Probably my least favorite aspect is the sound design. Random stock sound effects, Generations UI sounds and Jason Griffith voice lines, it all feels plucked at random. I think the one thing I really like is the updated animations, those look pretty cool. Everything else though I'm iffy about.
Exactly my thoughts.
Ignoring the obvious bugs/lack of sound tuning, the sounds are all over the place and don't fit the soundtrack from SA2 and are extremely annoying mainly in City Escape. The physics are too fast for SA2 levels which can most likely allow you to do tons of level skips (or just die falling off the map lol). And the new level paths (or whatever those are called), a few of those are nice (like the Piramid entrance) but there are also some of them that are just random clutter to the levels.
IMO this would be a great mod if they just tweaked the levels layout with "new" physics in mind (if the modders really want to keep it) and removed those random sound effects + voice lines.
Honestly if they were to change the voice clips they should've taken them from Heroes seeing as each VA that transitioned from SA2 to Heroes improved on their characters and sound better than their 4kids VAs.
I really like some of the expansions to levels, but fully agree on the sounds. The amount of dialogue and voice lines in City Escape was very distracting. I'd like to see more textures updated rather than messing with so many sound qualities.
I agree and it's blowing my mind how many people are praising these aspects. This is in the same vein as Ocarina of Time on Unreal Engine to me. It feels like this was made because someone just wants this game on current gen graphics. I'll likely just stick with SA2 on steam and mod it.
It is cool to see this and I like some of what has been done here, but it doesn't seem that different from what modders can do even if this might be leagues harder to pull off than modding.
@@Saucy_Wiggles With the fan-made HD Ocarina of Time, it doesn't even look like Ocarina of Time. Like, did they not ever look at the official artwork for that game?
Sonic Adventure 2 will always truly be one of the most playable and consumable games in the Sonic Franchise in my opinion
Amen
I think generations is the most playable because there's a ton of mods
@@Tsukiru
Adventure 1?
I'd say it's Generations easily first. Simply because while they're both beloved and readily available on basically everything, Generations has the added bonus of being a more simple game and gives even classic fans something to like. And even while SA2 has a much better story than Generations, the Adventure games have both aged like milk and are VERY rough nowadays, especially if you play them unmodded
THAT PART
One thing that I really really REALLY loved from this mod was the fact that there was the remix of Stage Select by Husky by the geek. I heard that remix a few years ago and it’s always been stuck in my head. Now that I’ve heard it again in this mod made it so much more complete!
Oh, and I know that it’s already been said but I freaking love how Metal Harbor and Pyramid Cave started out of Sonic’s jail cell and outside the cave respectively. It feels more like a playable cutscene than anything.
Speaking of which, I loved the remix songs of these stages! Especially Metal Habor and Pyramid Cave. Those remixes were ones that I scrolled by years ago through RUclips and it’s great that you made great use of them again.
36:00 Sonic driving the legendary BMW M3 GTR from Need For Speed Most Wanted? Incredible, one of my dreams finally come true. Honestly I have not seen much of this mod but I really liked it a lot, except for one thing and that is that they have put the voice of Jason Griffith to Sonic in this mod. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against his voice, but I prefer to play Sonic Adventure 2 with Ryan Drummond's voice, although I also prefer to play Shadow with Jason Griffith's voice. I just hope they also add an option to change character voices.
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@@Transylvestite Any more details on that car?
@ suspect is driving a silver BMW
1:12 that is absolute authenticity right there
I don't know if this was intentional but the beginning of vanilla Metal Harbor syncing up to the beginning of the vanilla Metal Harbor music at 6:44 was amazing
I think it is, which just makes it so much cooler
The sync in Final Rush when he fell down the tiwer and hit the rail gave me a sense of enotion I can't explain
I really appreciate the little changes you’ve made to keep the flow state going. The drop, increased influence off the rocket, and map changes really let you break the levels further than the original. Well done
Mans pulled a whole BMW to a kart race
35:57 - Nine Thou Superstar Remix just started playing in my head right now
After all these years SA2 is still fantastic. And this just enhances it.
@BeachPenny Productions Yeah, it’s still fantastic with Sonic and Shadow… The rest of the game is not so great…
@@wilfriedsee3141 their music in the stages are amazing the very least. Pumpkin Hill being an S tier song
Still better than any of the modern Sonic games tho, let's be real here. @@wilfriedsee3141
This looks incredible! The reimagined levels gives you more exploration similar to sonic adventure 1 and the remixes are a nice touch. I also like how they extended the levels by adding little story segments at the start of levels.
Never ceases to amaze me how much a gem the sonic adventure series was. the inspiration and clever redesigns make this so refreshing
This is cool but the way sonic and shadow originally ran in SA2 always looked cooler than how they ran in later game(mostly in Shadow’s case)
I agree I think it's something about the jaggines of the animation that really sells how fast he's going
Finally someone else agrees that the OG animations are better than all these mods
Ngl Knuckles running in SA2 was probably the best animation he ever had
I miss Shadow rocket skating.
@@sasook these mods look like they have the exact same animations, not sure what you mean? Maybe they made it smoother? Can't tell
Woaah, this is so cool ! SA2 is my favorite childhood game. I love the work you put into this. So much attention to details, and the music is so sick as well. Great job !
Sonic Adventure 2 but even better, huh? Looks hard to pull off as a concept but here we are now
Green Forest and White Jungle were the pinnacle of what a great Sonic Adventure levels were. Fast af, clean transitions, minimal breaks in the action.
Pretty dope, but while the speed increase is kinda cool, sonic tends to overshoot things now.
Also, having watched more into it, I can safely say that this mod is AMAZING.
Once they iron out the kinks and polish out some of those weird physics issues, this might very well become the definitive way to play SA2.
I look forward to seeing the completed form of this mod. Pretty damn hype adding extra avenues and things to explore.
This is how you remake a classic. This looks phenomenal with what has been done. The character models, new animations, music, little things here and there. If the textures were updated it would make this game really sparkle.
The added BMW GTR in the kart racing singlehandedly made this my favorite mod
Words can't express my amazement by this project! SA2 is near and dear to my heart.
All of the advancements to the levels, especially the prison break and 4:25 all those blimps saying Maria? Truly brilliant.
YOOOOOOOOOO!!!! THE BMW!!!!! THATS CRAZY!!!!!!! I wonder how tf end up in the sonic world.....
Imagine that in a future update, Shadow would drive the Ford Mustang or the Chevrolet Corvette 😵😵😵😵😃😃😃😃
There's a lot in this mod that I really like, there s also a lot that I really don't like. I love a lot of the level additions like the new ring trails and alternate routes. I like the new openings for skyrail and Metal harbor. A lot of it is really good. But I think sonic is too fast. It breaks the flow of the levels and just seems clunky in a lot of areas. I also think they went a little overboard with some of the levels. Metal Harbor just has way too much on going on. I also hate how they got rid of the ending with the rocket and the skating. I also don't like the new ending to white jungle. It just seems clunky. Same with the new intro to Pyramid Cave. Overall there's a lot of good here. But it definitely needs to be refined and have some of the fat trimmed
This is just how I remember the game being, I know it’s not but nostalgia has blinded me
Sonic driving an e46 M3 gives me all the best kind of nostalgia for my early high school years 2001-2003 when the Dreamcast and reading car magazines was my whole life.
I have to appreciate some of Sonic's expressions here, mostly in the truck section of City Escape (2:41 is where it's most obvious). It's kinda neat that even with the modern model he can still look just as expressive as he used to. I also have to appreciate the running animation, the way he not only follows through with each step but overshoots each as well. It just has so much power and velocity to it, yet it remains smooth. Reminds me of the pre-rendered cutscenes in Sonic 06.
Green Forest was the best stage to really complement the speed of this character mod. If they tone back the speed a tad to where you don’t over shoot parts of the level then it will be right in pocket.
It is good for speed runs but I do see your point for newbies it would be something to get accustomed to . I'd personally hate to over shoot a spin and jump just to miss an important spring or trail of rings
10 minutes I'm so far and this is lovely!
Edit: I really like all the small changes all over the place.
Edit2: Really feels like a "Hold my beer" kind of mod.
Edit3: When you hit that Chao that sent chills down my spine. You did the world a service.
Edit4: Skyrail blew my mind...
There's no way someone thought of putting the NFSMW MC's car in kart mode LMAO
This mod is a work of art! I loved all the new paths included, but my favorite has to be the prison break sequence in Metal Harbor, omg that was a genius idea
THE NEW METAL HARBOR INTRO OH MY GOD THAT WAS BRILLIANT 😭
I can never put into words the amount of excitement and pure joy that possesses me whenever I see the City Escape sequence... This was definitely not an exception!!
I dont even know what to say, but this feels.... off. Basically like doing a fan remake of SA 2, with all the caviets that come with it. Theres stuff i like, stuff i dont, and stuff that just leaves me with more questions than answers. Its ambitious, maybe too much so. Its crazy that all this is just built ontop of SA 2, when it almost looks like its running in the sonic infinity engine or something
Hater alert, hater alert, nigga just mad, he didn’t get toys
Agreed. I don't like Sonic's running animation. He used to jog and flail his hands while running, then once he builds momentum, he starts running with his hands behind him. Same for Shadow.
Nothing pleases u guys I swear 😑
I agree completely, but overall you have to admit this is stunning
@@NewEraSupreme Until we get Yuji Naka and the original creators back on board. Most of us will never be pleased lol
Sonic Adventure 2 was one of my favorite games as a kid, and is still one of my favorite games of all time. Watching this hit me with a massive wave of nostalgia. This looks absolutely phenomenal!! I would kill to play a Sonic Adventure 2 remaster that looks like this!
Man I’d do anything for a full SA2 remaster
Sonic when he runs past and flips a bunch of vehicles, commiting several counts of hit and run, and vehicular manslaughter on innocent ordinary people, and families: FEELIN' GOOD!
I remember playing Sonic Adventure 2 when it came out and thinking it was the first time that what made 2D sonic gameplay successful was accurately translated to 3D. This takes it to the next level and continues to refine that success. Absolutely awesome.
I still can’t believe that Sega has remade nearly every game in some way except for these. This DESERVES to be made!
As a whole I find this incredible. Those level modifications look almost like they fit with the original game for the most part. Only a few nitpicks I have about it. First is that while the majority of the texture work looks fantastic, there's a few areas like the outside of the pyramid on Pyramid Cave and the box room on Final Race looked off. Second are a few level mods looked a bit outlandish and probably hard to replicate consistently like the lightspeed dash near the end of White Jungle. I'd say White Jungle was honestly one of the sloppier works from what I saw. It is without a doubt impressive, but I think they went a bit overboard with throwing stuff in it.
Lastly is that I noticed a lot of the new additions have very little to back you up if you fail. Most of them seem to be a hail marry risk jump with no punishment other than death. It's an issue people already have with Adventure 2, but I think a lot of the level changes seem to exacerbate this. Not every mistake should be a death, but they should be punished. Something I think they should watch.
OMG! They included a "BMW Check Engine light sound" when the M3 crashes 😂😂
Great job showing off this mod! You taking the time to post incredibly skilled looking runs is why I stay and watch until the end.
I'm from Miami and I saw that 600 points says "Fire." It didn't always say Fire right? They added that because it's modern? I realized I can't handle my Sonic's slang NOT being very outdated.
There's so much I can say obviously. I'll keep it short: shadows run animation is the best I've seen. I love his super long strides.
Also I love how you included voice clips from all the eras of sonic! Hearing some sonic 06 voice clips makes me happy 😊
I like the well kept tradition of doing tricks off of the ramps and missing the power ups in City Escape while not really understanding why, but now with the twist that you far overshoot them rather than falling short. 😂
you could always overshoot, but that makes it funnier
The best part was how music sync was on point for the metal harbor stage where the stage and music starts in the real game.
Those running animations are so perfect! They exude so much character!
I'm more distracted by Amy's glitchy homing attack bounce....
@@Titan360 lmao I hadn't watched that far into the video, Amy could use a bit more polish
Idk i'm not really a fan of Shadow's skating animation, i prefer the OG animation.
Lowkey, I’m so glad yall when and remastered the music track ! They sound really good !
This is how Metal Harbor was always meant to be. So well done, all of this!
I love the part where the cop says- "Sweet mother Mary, this guys a damn athlete!"
This, the gens customizable outfit, custom stage, and unleashed QSS coming back, megamix mania, and shadow reloaded are the best imo of shc this year.
I had my observations regarding some small aspects of the mod/overhaul. Some things I would've weighed before trying this out... And then Sonic driving the M3 happened.
I no longer have any observations. This is the best mod/overhaul ever.
I just played SA2 today and it was SOOOO hype to see how many new pathways were in lvls like city escape metal harbor, and pyramid cave. The remixes were so hype, I felt like I was being possessed🥴
This is an incredible expansion. I have no other way to say it. The fact that you all managed to expand the original SA2 formula to this degree is mind blowing. Legit, I cannot stress enough how damn impressive this is! From the day to night transition of City Escape to the expansion on Metal Harbor and White Jungle and Sky Rail, I'm at a loss for words. Me and a friend of mine were literally talking yesterday about how the fan community for Sonic is so ravenous and arguably knows what to do with Sonic and crew better than Sega in a lot of cases and this just goes to show it. Major kudos on this achievement!
Also, as much as I love Sonic, literally since way back in '92, Shadow just has such a cool factor around him that can't be ignored or set aside. The Boom memes about his coolness will never not be true, they nailed his character from the start and he needs a prominent role in the franchise again so badly.
This project seriously needs more attention from people, this upgrade freaking rocks! I'm really digging the extra bits that add to the stage itself like the prison escape section. We can really see the efforts made on this one, and that is something that demands praise!
Sonic just levitates for the beginning of City Escape.
This has been and ALWAYS will be my favorite game of all time…it’s honestly perfect. Idk why they don’t make the games like this anymore
0:23 they even added MORE SLAP BASS AS HE FALLS, i'm already sold
Jaw dropped on the opening of Metal Harbor. And that Sky Rail scenery change is amazing. Not sure why Sega hasnt brought back or done something with the Pumpkin Hill/Sky Rail/Aquatic Mine/Red Mountain area in later games or even some kind of cool horror game in that setting. I've always love the aesthetic of it
As a Sonic fan, I can't describe how I feel. This is gorgeous.
That crazy gadget remix is SO good.
bro that part in metasl harbor where you get out of the jail and by the time you get in the actual level music changes to the original theme, man, you guys crushed it
The new intros to stages and routes are great
The kart racing with the BMW from Need for Speed:Most Wanted.
Such a nice touch !
this is really impressive for an sa2 mod. the new animations for sonic and shadow are really cool
As one of the biggest NFS Most Wanted 2005 fan, my jaw dropped at the kart racing
I freaking adore the quill physics. Can I pet them? 🥰🤣
I really like Shadow’s skating animation. Really smooth and kinda shows the power in his shoes’ jet power. Makes it look like he’s going faster in a way. That’s how I see it. Really cool.
I love the change in sonic's full speed run cycle animation. Always thought it looked too noisy in sa2
I never thought I'd see the BMW M3 from Need For Speed Most Wanted in a Sonic game but here we are
It looks very nice, especially in kart race. Is this a car from NFS MW Sonic driving? And "find Big the Cat" challenge from SEGA makes fun❤️
I Kindof love how the music in skyrail syncs up perfectly where the stage originally starts
Bro, the messages on the blimps in Radical Highway were an amazing detail. That was cool.
Radical Highway changing a lot of signs to mirror Shadow's current distorted mindset was actually a pretty epic details (From the Maria? blimps to Gerald Ave, Kill Them All, etc.)
Man I just watched that first section on metal harbor, WTF is amazing 😍
Music, speed, rewarding gameplay, graphics, newer areas, all of that looks fantastic. Really excited about the finished product: and comments, don't go too hard. Nitpick if u want, but it ain't done yet.
Seeing Shadow again in a modern setting is so awesome. Mad props to the creator
The Final with the BMW M3 GTR E46 was truly Mind Blowing Bro !!!
Everything in this mod is absolutely incredible. Only complaint woul be some of the level design doesn’t really work. Metal Harbours intro is really cool but pyramid cave’s feels unnecessary and kinda slow. Feels like a completely different stage to the rest of pyramid cave. Also not a fan of the random dash panels in crazy gadget
The Need for Speed BMW M3 GTR in a Sonic game. Never have I thought I'd see the two games crossover like this.
This definitely feels like a modern take on SA2, having already played the original, I can tell that this is a good fan game.
@@Tsukiru cool
Tbh as a non sonic fan I enjoy sonic adventure 2 and its been a big part of my childhood and seeing fans remaster this masterpiece of a game is amazing
I feel like it shouldn't be 'modernized' so much as refined. Polish it and expand it, but don't take too much artistic liberty or it's gonna throw a lot of people off. Understand what people like about it and you'll know what to improve.
A lot of sonic fan devs can sometimes miss the mark on "if it ain't broke, dont fix it"
I just noticed the zeppelins in Radical Highway had “Maria?” and “I’m here Shadow” written on them.
It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely an achievement, and it does it’s job. Not really mind blowing to me but I’m sure the developers worked very hard on this.
When your version comes out, let us know.
@@Velchat3 You don't have to be a chef to notice the flaws in a dish.
I'd buy it, why would it ever be mind-blowing? It's a game that came out 22 years ago with better graphics and some tweaks. It is infinitely better than some official remasters of games I've seen.
I don’t know what it is about hearing Jason Griffith in City Escape, but it just feels right. I always smile at the cocky way he says “Go ahead, try and stop me.”
This mod is great, I really like that they remade all the character models to look like they are from present games but still retain some amount of their SA2 roots. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say SA2 has the best artwork in any sonic game hands down. there is something so charming about it, even the original models of sonic and shadow look great! I'm very picky about how shadow should look and OMG am I so happy they re-did his shoes to look the same as they did in the original game. furthermore his facial expressions and color tone it tight! The only thing I'm skeptical on is his skating animation I'm very picky about that, I still love the original and think if it was tweaked slightly it would be fine, heck even the forces animation in previous iterations was great.
I know its hard to model something like that and make it look fluent so props to the mod creators. I also do not like how he looks at the camera so angrily when completing the stage I think he should have a light smile. Thats one reason I loved shadow so much in SA2 was because he was so confident in himself and showed actual emotion in dialogue, something his own game butchered and became a staple meme for years to come lol! I also hope they re make the SOAP shoes and have it as an option for sonic. Besides from my minor gripes I think this is one absolute banger of a mod and If there is one thing I think would put the cherry on top is if the characters had in level dialogue they say to themselves as they progress through the map. thats something I really liked in modern sonic games like forces. And they have some breathing room for a few lines since both shadow and sonic will mumble to themselves if idling for too long in one spot.
I also pray they at least keep the original Live and Learn in the final boss fight or use the sonic 30th anniversary remix that was amazing too! I also think it would be cool if they could somehow revamp the sonic vs shadow boss fight on the ark to be more in depth, like having powers ups from multiplayer. And speaking of multiplayer I cannot wait to see what they do for that! I cannot tell you how many hours I dumped into SA2 multiplayer beating all my friends with Shadow lol! And I would die if they could somehow add super form power ups to multiplayer as well as new stages. Anyways this is just my two cents, thanks for publishing such an in depth video, I might have to get my buddies over and we all play some MSA2!
I think my favorite part of this is that you didn't get cucked by a single ring on metal harbor with the ring attractor shield on. Lord knows how many times I died trying to lightspeed dash across some rings, only for one ring to separate, and then send me spiraling into the ocean.
Interesting mod. Metal Harbor was really great, but I think overall the physics change seems a bit awkward. Sonic and Shadow fly through the stages in ways they weren't built for. And I like the additions that accommodate that, but not all stages had significant changes. And I recognize that these intros are WIPs, but I didn't really like the new openings to Pyramid Cave and Sky Rail. The former just doesn't make sense in the story (the previous stage was already inside the pyramid, why are we back out), and the latter is just....awkward.
8:52 Ayoooo. You can run of the water? Now that's true Adabat moment👌
I really wish you could get dramatic camera angle replays after a stage. Would really show off how smooth some of the obstacle navigation is.
1:12 I smiled so hard at this bit 😌