Exactly, it was always exciting to meet new riders and see what they were riding, instant ice breaker to be able to check out eachother bikes. It was always awesome to meet someone riding some obscure frame you only saw in magazines. It was kinda like car show culture, and I think people were buying new frames just to be the first with the latest thing. I remember the first time someone showed up with a 2-Hip pork, everyone swarmed him to check it out. Good times!
I ride flatland and street. I'm a mid school rider 100%. Bike weighed 39 proud lbs. You hit the nail on the head. Favorite flatland riders: Paul Osicka, Day Smith, and Chase. Street: Edwin, "Butcher " Kowalski, and Taj.
This reminded me of a few things: 1. Incredibly thick grips. The Primo Degroot grip was probably the best example. 2. Primo's market dominance. Until about 2004, their parts seemed to be everywhere. 3. The impact of 'Can I Eat?'. Kids today will struggle to understand how transformative that video was. After it came out, everyone wanted to be Steven Hamilton. 4. Punk and emo music im videos. Until the Lotek video came out in 2006, almost all video soundtracks were very 'alternative'.
Man you hit it on the head with the 4130. That was a magic number and anyone who knew that was a fellow rider. I still wear Dickies and a chain wallet to this day. My quote..."ROCK AND ROLL MAAAANNNN!!!
The goofiest mid-school trend was 40 bound bikes. Jesus. Why? Also, that flatland business playing in the background is just insane. Flatlanders are absolute bmx wizards. Also, best old headset was the the GT Epoch. Spring loaded! The only older headset I ever had that never came loose.
This was a really fun video to watch. A lot of great topics covered. I started thumbing through BMX Plus magazines in 95/96 when I was a teenager. Fast forward a few decades and BMX is still a huge part of my life.
I miss the HUGE air and insane combos of the BMX vert competitions that were in a half pipe only. Also, check out Trevor Watring. He rides a mid-school style, rides front brake, has knee/shin pads outside of his jeans, and often has the full face helmet. Mid-school style in modern competitions. It's a treat.
"I can tailwhip, and I can jump the gap. So i should be able to tailwhip the gap" I think the goofiest trend was the dropouts the size of dinner plates. I guess no one had figured out hub guards. They were supposed to protect your hubs durring grinds, but you would just end up landing on the dropout, fuck up your hub anyway, and flip over the bars cause you came to an immediate stop. After a while, everyone just had mangled rusty dropouts cause they had trimmed all the extra material off.
-Van Homan! ... so true about those damn dropouts. I hopped on a skinny round rail once and the rail wedged between the dropout and the wheel, I went right over the bars.
Things that were goofy was: a number of people riding 3 pegs. 2 in the front& 1 in the back on your grinding side. Running a good, sealed triple wall rear wheel, and stock unsealed in front. Rolling your right pant leg up. Running a good sealed wheel on the front(chrome plated) and an unsealed stock wheel, rear, only because, you found, stole, or someone gave you the better wheel. I'm sure I was looking and dressing like Garret Byrnes and Van Homan. Whatever frame I was on, I was set up like Van Homan's bike, with the exception of sometimes running front brakes. I went through a Dyno Detour, Mongoose Motivator, Haro Nyquist, 2 hip root down, Eastern Jane, Dk Eight Pack, & now still have a Premium 2004-Team. Haro Nyquist with Alex triple walls was nearly 40 lbs. Brand slogans, I liked Dk six pack& eight pack.
Video pops in the feed, never been more stoked. Litterly every number brought back some of the best memories. Still riding today and def repping mid-school style 🤘🏻
This is awesome grew up in Prescott Arizona still here with Adam Baker, Jonny Stevens, and a bunch of other people and this is gold and I’ll be 36 this month. Thank you for this, but it was good to see that in the background.
Love the video man. Brought back tons of memories. My favorite quote from a BMX video that me and my riding buddies would say over and over again was "like a finga, pointing to da moon" from a Road Fools video. And then the riders we would always copy were obviously Taj and Joe Rich, but also Punjab and Groundchuck. Good times!
...all heros, I loved the beginning of Groundchucks section in the Standard County video when he was asked if there was a medical term for what was wrong with his knee and he just says. "Fucked up" hahah what a badass.
Yea crazy you say our crappy bikes held us back is 100% true. I'm 6'5 so having a bike tuff enough to hold when I really wanted to go for it . Even now can't afford a bike I can ride for real and not be destroyed within a week.. would love a 24" Cult,DK,or PK ripper. I'm 42 and can still get just need a bike
I don't know why this video popped up in my feed, but I'm super glad it did! Haven't thought about riding in forever! My pride and joy was an S&M WarPig that I built with my friend Zac over the course of a weekend. He rode a Holmes. Wish I still had that thing. RIP Zac! ❤ Subbed to your channel, bro! You've got a good vibe! Can't wait to see more content!
@@MaxxOverdrive I watched the one that you put out of BMX riders versus rockstars during the premiere! I watched it in its entirety, and agreed with you on damn near all of them! Again, great content! Keep it up and I look forward to seeing many more.
Hit it right on the nail lol....definitely loved my slams wit the stem upside down.....that haro seat was the best seat I had.....big heavy duty chain for those disasters....Def 4130 lol even had my old phone # ended in 4130.....great video brings back some memories....I feel I helped wit the brake less trend back then too...thanks for this video
I have not finished this video yet, but I love the memories,I have two points, I would like to make, I had never seen mid school until props video, I will never forget that, I grew up on RAD and RAD TV ,old school woody Itson , martin Aprihejo GT demo video, I had only seen pictures of kevin jones in BMX plus,I had no idea of rolling tricks yet, then I seen a props video with 1st flatland contest, it had a lot of things, but when I seen chad degroot darkside, it was over for me, many years later I still ride and i still can't believe I can do some of those tricks now, and i recently thru the years got to do a darkside at a contest that chad was part of in florida, it felt like. a full circle moment
@@MaxxOverdrive You could talk about the different types of riders (if there were any). Compare the beefyness of the mid-school bike compared to the old school or new school. What you liked about mid-school bmx that isn't around anymore. If there were any more Products that came out that helped "caveman mechanics". That all I can really think of.
“Defining moments in mid school history”, “top 10 mid school riders”, “most influential mid school riders” … its tough to think of good ones, i admit. Dope video though, keep em coming
Awesome topic, mid school myself. Odyssey broke the 4130 with there folks 4140 thermal treated I got the pro dirt version " unbreakable" I was a ghetto mod master, thanks for the trip back in time the best time. Ruben was my idol
I started riding in late 2005 so I'm more of a post-midschool rider (we need to give the late 2000's to late 2010's era a proper name) but I find the chronology of trends in BMX fascinating, specially during the midschool era. The whole "small/narrow bars and high seatpost" thing caught my atention because I noticed that new school riders, specially the "can i eat?" revivalism that is going in Barcelona have re-adopted those things. There's a guy called Miki Fleck who seems like a huge midschool nerd and not only his riding (dude kills it) and set-up but his whole aesthetic screams early 2000's and he's like the posterboy of that new scene.
You're right, there is a whole late mid-school era that really was its own thing. I remember those of us who were 4 pegs gyro and 2 brakes thinking of guys running 36t sporckets and 2 pegs as new school. Im definitely gunna have to pay attention to these new trends you mentioned cuz that sounds rad.
"U droppin change ?" Is what some of us would say because our 4130 chrome bikes with demolition sleeved pegs sounded like loose change being dropped on the sweet polished concrete floors of lot 8 and cloud nine at woodward east where i lived for 4 years of my life !
Had some S&M Dive bars. You mentioned the Alex triple wall rims but also the fact that we all ran 48 spoke wheels. Had 44 tooth sprockets with 16 tooth freewheels. I think it was Odyssey that came out with the first 13 tooth freewheel which was a game changer for us that couldn't afford a cassette.
I remember getting the hazard lite 36 triple walls when they came out. Beat the fuck outta them..only problem I ever had was blowing spokes on the front wheel from grinding. Damn good wheelset
From what I remember, I feel like everyone I rode with transitioned from Primo Tenderizer pedals to the Jim Cielencki's. Everyone had Chelencki pedals or however it was spelled. I used to just call em Kalinki pedals lol They came in all types of colorways and limited editions like glow in the dark. BTW I still have an Animal fitted from the early 2000's. Them caps were legit and came in all flavors. Shame to see them fall away.
I remember when people started switching over to plastic pedals, I refused to even try them.l, WalMart bikes had plastic pedals, metal pedals meant you were a real rider... I love my plastic pedals now. 😆 Animal was on the verge of becoming a legit street wear brand, I remember seeing those fitted hats being worn by rappers at the time. Crazy
All the riders in the first anthem video Taj & Joe, Chris Stauffer, Punjab, ground chuck. I spent most of my time riding and maintaining trails in the late 90s-early 00s and watched that video thousands of times.
@@MaxxOverdrive i still spent plenty of time riding street but a good set of trails always brought riders together and you built a family. That was the best part.
Ian Schwartz and Eddie Cleveland SF free coaster no brakes style I still ride it But lol 😂 blessed to grow up in Houston with Danny Hickerson & Neil Harrington to lookup to…
Mike Aitken was always who I fanboyed as a kid! 36 now and on a very modern bike, but still running the mixed tyres and chrome rim in the back, gotta pay homage to your roots!
I think of primo meat tenderizers, I was so use to the Anaya 7x rim bending that I got 12 gauge spokes laced to Alex triple wall rim with perigrine phat jacks hubs. Motor cycle chain, we all rode everything, flat, vert, ramp, dirt. Grinding a small height ledge was looked at as lame. Everything was right hand drive.
I only clicked play cause I saw you playing some Skunk bros/Ells Bells video in the back round… Castillo bar was basically the mad dog bar lol good old road fools and they brought that up… quote Moller says “idk about those bars but I guess your up for a little sparing action”…
I'm from the weight-weinie era and we drilled holes in everything, slammed the seats, i had a odyssey jr seat that was tiny, I drilled holes into my odyssey hazard rims, I'm sure we removed way too much material and thats why we broke everything.
I still prefer smaller bars(7.25 rise 26 width), skinnier tires(1.85-1.95), and metal pedals(sealed magnesium). I get on some of my friends bikes and they feel like monster trucks with flat tires. I do also ride a more mid-school style flatland though. Some other good names: Primo - Stiffy pegs (Street/Park) Primo - Tubesteak pegs (Flatland) Homeles - Pornstar frame Hoffman - Love Handles And a newer one: Alienation - Circle Jerks (Chain tentioner spacer)
The biggest trend I was obsessed with as a mid school was gyro brakes. Always wanted them, always broke, no one could repair them properly. I know they are much better now but I never want a set ever again Don’t have a quote for you but my first bmx was a Fishbone Double Gusset. It had those small bars and was heavy as shit
Damn being a teenager in the mid school I did most of what you said. Goofy is running so cut down bars you have grip on the bend to the cross bar. Brand loyalist - "I bought a pair of vans once they suck that's why I only ride Etnies." Baggy jeans with the right pant leg rolled. Duct tape patch job on pants.
I always ran the cheapest and easiest set up when I finally got money I did the Kevin porter tierra. Couldn’t get use to the style and now I’m back on late mid school styles. Older haro and mirraco parts odyssey dirt forks. Bars that are only 8.25 from a haro complete. The mid-school kicked in and I bought a terrible one sticker for the cross bar
You don't need the compression bolt after the clamp is tightened. Mine stays in the toolbox with the wrench. Now if only the stem and fork didn't have stickers on the mating surface for some reason... That's one thing S&M still hasn't figured out.
Burly everything. Dropouts, axles, wheels, chains, frames, tiny tires running 100psi. The irony of the 40 lb bike era is those frames were prone to cracking because NOTHING flexed! Wasn't until years later that I figured out that mid school bikes / frames were too stiff and cracked where the two shockwaves met.
Still also have a pair of 48h Alex triple wall wheels. Heavy as shit but spokes are still tight 20 years later. And they took some pretty big drops back then 😊
I remember reading in a Ride Uk mag about a specific bike company that was bucking the trend of heavy "bulletproof" frames/bikes in late 90's/early 2000s. The bike/company was taking an engineering standpoint of only engineering it to how far it needed to go, no excess thickness of metal etc. I think it was taking inspiration from bikes of the 80s (that one im not sure of though, i just remember the bike being more like an 80s bike than a 90s tank)
It took me a long time to appreciate Aitken, as a kid I thought tricks were the measure of how good a rider was but Mike proved style and flow was just as relevant
In Machine shop in H.S I turned down a type of I bolt, I hated star nuts so much and That thing worked great. And i used to sand down break pads to knock the glaze off the rubber to work better.
Oh man 😂 worst "trend" thing I did was take a Poverty super thick sprocket WITH the motorcycle chain and bolted it to Haro master guard... I'm sure the crank arms were barley on the spindle hanging on for dear life! This was the summer of sprocket stall anything and everything, bike had to be pushing more than 45lbs. Other overkill stupid thing I did was saved up forever to get custom wheels built... 48h Alex triple walls, Primo SOB 14mm F/R hubs with 12ga spokes 🤢 and the rear axle still bent like butter🙄. I remember building my first wheel after that front Araya Super7X 36h to GT high flange race lace 3/8ths hub and XS 4x4 48h Araya RB-J1 Himiko, this was the end of my wheel woes era since I could tru my own now... I remember always sitting on the sidelines or missing the sessions because of rear wheels being garbage for me.
🙋🏻♀ I'm a 4130CULT MEMBER!! Also ran tennis balls in rims -- mainly because we found them. Do you remember the PLASTIC SEAT?? JUST RAW HARD PLASTIC?? geezus
Here’s the myth about tennis balls In the wheels. If you find one and put it in your spokes you get good luck. You only have the luck while you can see where you found it. Once you leave the area the magical powers are gone.
I remember my dk step up had super small bars and my cranks were super fucking long u couldn’t pedal around corners without crashing. Also remember my bikes having huge sprockets and back in those days too.
I know its already sort of covered, but using motorbike chains, primary so you could crash your sprocket onto anything and everything. After the frame, the 2nd most heavy piece of gear on a bike. Fucking madness.
Pedal brake, bear traps/primo tenderisers, square stems (just for the knees), chain brake cables, pin in the jeans on the sprocket side, plastic grind disc/gaurd, KHE's built-in gyro now a 1 cable, screw on pegs, no bar ends (cookie cutters) the hate aginst Taiwanese built frames and parts etc. Good conversation im in ✌️ and there's more
Yes, Awesome stuff ! ran chain for my brake straddle cable and no bar ends for years! Bet I could do a top 100 creative Mid-School inventions list. Hmmm!
- Rider pulls up to the park, front and rear brakes, cables are disconnected from the levers and taped to the bars, essentially brakeless. - Cutting Milk Jug to patch a hole in a tire - "Simple Green" - 1 inch long seatposts slammed seats - "Indian Giver half cabs"
Wildest thing I saw was a kid who didn't have a headset in his frame so he wrapped layers of duct tape around the fork steertube to try and keep the fork from wiggling back n forth. He would ride these jumps we built on that death trap. 🥴
my favorite quote that we used I forgot who it was I think it was Sandy Carson or Taj he says he says '' a Ledge in the elementary school '' if you seen it then you know what I'm talking about and in that same video Dave Freimuth he's going down a Rail and jumps off the side in the snow and he says '' I got my koston's wet '' referring to his sneakers .... yep me and my friend were definitely copies of terrible one Joe rich and Taj we both had terrible one barcodes with gyros two pegs in terrible One bars in our style was we were trying to mimic them for sure just like you said a knobby Tire in the front and a street Tire in the back and sometimes we rode Hoffman skidmark tires 120 psi cuz we rode ramps an dirt
Oh and primo John Parker love hate grips , I’ve been building up bmx bikes since the late 80s , only thing I won’t mess with are my wheel sets 😂they go to my local bmx shop
VHS, Props, etc. Motorbike chain Baggy jeans, ripped then cut to long shorts Long steal pegs Way too long cranks, hit ya foot on front wheel sometimes. In saying that my rear end is so short now I caint Run 4 pegs on l70s 😂.
I remember when Seth and Bruce Crisman were coming up I was such a hater cuz they were my age but so much better than I could ever be. I eventually crossed paths with both of them and they were both cool as hell. I was a fan ever since.
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At least most of the bikes back then looked unique. Now, everything is double-diamond frame with 2 piece bar. Sweet vid!
Exactly, it was always exciting to meet new riders and see what they were riding, instant ice breaker to be able to check out eachother bikes. It was always awesome to meet someone riding some obscure frame you only saw in magazines. It was kinda like car show culture, and I think people were buying new frames just to be the first with the latest thing. I remember the first time someone showed up with a 2-Hip pork, everyone swarmed him to check it out. Good times!
shit people that dont ride say/ you looked real unique with those little ass kid bars
@@MaxxOverdrivethe mid school ended when people took their brakes off mate.........
Literally the thing that separated the gens
I ride flatland and street. I'm a mid school rider 100%. Bike weighed 39 proud lbs. You hit the nail on the head. Favorite flatland riders: Paul Osicka, Day Smith, and Chase. Street: Edwin, "Butcher " Kowalski, and Taj.
This reminded me of a few things:
1. Incredibly thick grips. The Primo Degroot grip was probably the best example.
2. Primo's market dominance. Until about 2004, their parts seemed to be everywhere.
3. The impact of 'Can I Eat?'. Kids today will struggle to understand how transformative that video was. After it came out, everyone wanted to be Steven Hamilton.
4. Punk and emo music im videos. Until the Lotek video came out in 2006, almost all video soundtracks were very 'alternative'.
So true on all points... the T-Nez grips were thick as heck too.
I had the Nate Hanson grips (can't recall who made them). It made holding on to you bars like holding on to a log
@@islamicsalami7208 also primo.
As a teen I cultivated a style that was somehow half steven and half ed. lmao
Man you hit it on the head with the 4130. That was a magic number and anyone who knew that was a fellow rider. I still wear Dickies and a chain wallet to this day. My quote..."ROCK AND ROLL MAAAANNNN!!!
💯
Richard Gear sprockets - knob job tires - butt plug bar-ends
I’m 53…..I just finally purchased a BB press only about a month ago. 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
You mean a 2x4 and hammer?
The goofiest mid-school trend was 40 bound bikes. Jesus. Why? Also, that flatland business playing in the background is just insane. Flatlanders are absolute bmx wizards. Also, best old headset was the the GT Epoch. Spring loaded! The only older headset I ever had that never came loose.
This was a really fun video to watch. A lot of great topics covered. I started thumbing through BMX Plus magazines in 95/96 when I was a teenager. Fast forward a few decades and BMX is still a huge part of my life.
Motorcycle chains and sprocket guards. 😅
totally
I had that lol kink moped chain
I had an Scott Malyon esclator chain haha
I miss the HUGE air and insane combos of the BMX vert competitions that were in a half pipe only. Also, check out Trevor Watring. He rides a mid-school style, rides front brake, has knee/shin pads outside of his jeans, and often has the full face helmet. Mid-school style in modern competitions. It's a treat.
"I can tailwhip, and I can jump the gap. So i should be able to tailwhip the gap"
I think the goofiest trend was the dropouts the size of dinner plates. I guess no one had figured out hub guards. They were supposed to protect your hubs durring grinds, but you would just end up landing on the dropout, fuck up your hub anyway, and flip over the bars cause you came to an immediate stop. After a while, everyone just had mangled rusty dropouts cause they had trimmed all the extra material off.
-Van Homan! ... so true about those damn dropouts. I hopped on a skinny round rail once and the rail wedged between the dropout and the wheel, I went right over the bars.
I still have my Dirt Bros Trail r Park frame. You can see the dropouts from space.
"Hi my name is Gemini Wheelie King. I'm a 41 year old wheelie master."
Yo 4130 for life!!
Every body heres got short barrs and nor brakes!!!
Hmm. I still got the touch.
"it's all about the nosedive"
🤔 sounds familiar... ok, who said it?
@@MaxxOverdriveMike Aitken
Things that were goofy was: a number of people riding 3 pegs. 2 in the front& 1 in the back on your grinding side. Running a good, sealed triple wall rear wheel, and stock unsealed in front. Rolling your right pant leg up. Running a good sealed wheel on the front(chrome plated) and an unsealed stock wheel, rear, only because, you found, stole, or someone gave you the better wheel. I'm sure I was looking and dressing like Garret Byrnes and Van Homan. Whatever frame I was on, I was set up like Van Homan's bike, with the exception of sometimes running front brakes. I went through a Dyno Detour, Mongoose Motivator, Haro Nyquist, 2 hip root down, Eastern Jane, Dk Eight Pack, & now still have a Premium 2004-Team. Haro Nyquist with Alex triple walls was nearly 40 lbs. Brand slogans, I liked Dk six pack& eight pack.
"I am a very evil ninja!" Best BMX movie ever! Primo 'Stiffie' & 'Tube-steak"
When we used to call stem goose neck. This video made me laugh hella hard. Nostalgia
My favorite quote was Jay Miron looking at his red Schwinn and saying “yup, that’s a nice bike.”
Dyno/GT guy I have always been! Dave Volker my hero in the day.
Video pops in the feed, never been more stoked. Litterly every number brought back some of the best memories. Still riding today and def repping mid-school style 🤘🏻
This is awesome grew up in Prescott Arizona still here with Adam Baker, Jonny Stevens, and a bunch of other people and this is gold and I’ll be 36 this month. Thank you for this, but it was good to see that in the background.
When you talked about the fan boy times and the brands, I have an animal tattoo on my forearm 😂🤘🏼
Sick!
Love the video man. Brought back tons of memories. My favorite quote from a BMX video that me and my riding buddies would say over and over again was "like a finga, pointing to da moon" from a Road Fools video. And then the riders we would always copy were obviously Taj and Joe Rich, but also Punjab and Groundchuck. Good times!
that a hilarious take on bruce lees famous quote lol
...all heros, I loved the beginning of Groundchucks section in the Standard County video when he was asked if there was a medical term for what was wrong with his knee and he just says. "Fucked up" hahah what a badass.
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Yea crazy you say our crappy bikes held us back is 100% true. I'm 6'5 so having a bike tuff enough to hold when I really wanted to go for it . Even now can't afford a bike I can ride for real and not be destroyed within a week.. would love a 24" Cult,DK,or PK ripper. I'm 42 and can still get just need a bike
Man this brings back some memories!
I don't know why this video popped up in my feed, but I'm super glad it did! Haven't thought about riding in forever! My pride and joy was an S&M WarPig that I built with my friend Zac over the course of a weekend. He rode a Holmes. Wish I still had that thing. RIP Zac! ❤
Subbed to your channel, bro! You've got a good vibe! Can't wait to see more content!
Heck yea man! Thanks for watching, I just filmed a couple things today that you'll be stoked on. I'll try and get it posted up on Monday.
@@MaxxOverdrive I watched the one that you put out of BMX riders versus rockstars during the premiere! I watched it in its entirety, and agreed with you on damn near all of them!
Again, great content! Keep it up and I look forward to seeing many more.
Awesome video man!! This brings back some great memories
Hit it right on the nail lol....definitely loved my slams wit the stem upside down.....that haro seat was the best seat I had.....big heavy duty chain for those disasters....Def 4130 lol even had my old phone # ended in 4130.....great video brings back some memories....I feel I helped wit the brake less trend back then too...thanks for this video
I have not finished this video yet, but I love the memories,I have two points, I would like to make, I had never seen mid school until props video, I will never forget that, I grew up on RAD and RAD TV ,old school woody Itson , martin Aprihejo GT demo video, I had only seen pictures of kevin jones in BMX plus,I had no idea of rolling tricks yet, then I seen a props video with 1st flatland contest, it had a lot of things, but when I seen chad degroot darkside, it was over for me, many years later I still ride and i still can't believe I can do some of those tricks now, and i recently thru the years got to do a darkside at a contest that chad was part of in florida, it felt like. a full circle moment
KING headsets, I always wanted one
Engraved SOLID front load stem, always wanted one
you should do more videos like this.
Throw me a few topic suggestions
@@MaxxOverdrive You could talk about the different types of riders (if there were any).
Compare the beefyness of the mid-school bike compared to the old school or new school.
What you liked about mid-school bmx that isn't around anymore.
If there were any more Products that came out that helped "caveman mechanics".
That all I can really think of.
“Defining moments in mid school history”, “top 10 mid school riders”, “most influential mid school riders” … its tough to think of good ones, i admit. Dope video though, keep em coming
Awesome topic, mid school myself. Odyssey broke the 4130 with there folks 4140 thermal treated I got the pro dirt version " unbreakable" I was a ghetto mod master, thanks for the trip back in time the best time. Ruben was my idol
Dude in the day everything fell apart on our bikes way over built totally agree. Thanks brother for the memories! God bless
Man this brings back a lot of memories, checked a lot of boxes in this one!
I started riding in late 2005 so I'm more of a post-midschool rider (we need to give the late 2000's to late 2010's era a proper name) but I find the chronology of trends in BMX fascinating, specially during the midschool era. The whole "small/narrow bars and high seatpost" thing caught my atention because I noticed that new school riders, specially the "can i eat?" revivalism that is going in Barcelona have re-adopted those things. There's a guy called Miki Fleck who seems like a huge midschool nerd and not only his riding (dude kills it) and set-up but his whole aesthetic screams early 2000's and he's like the posterboy of that new scene.
You're right, there is a whole late mid-school era that really was its own thing. I remember those of us who were 4 pegs gyro and 2 brakes thinking of guys running 36t sporckets and 2 pegs as new school. Im definitely gunna have to pay attention to these new trends you mentioned cuz that sounds rad.
Damn I feel singled out on some of these. Killed me with the sticker bombed Ford Ranger. 😂
Awesome, the Ranger was a staple BMX hauler back in the day
"U droppin change ?" Is what some of us would say because our 4130 chrome bikes with demolition sleeved pegs sounded like loose change being dropped on the sweet polished concrete floors of lot 8 and cloud nine at woodward east where i lived for 4 years of my life !
Man that brought back some memories!
I remember rocking 44t chainrings and big motorbike fat chains. Must of been around 2001/2002.
Had some S&M Dive bars. You mentioned the Alex triple wall rims but also the fact that we all ran 48 spoke wheels. Had 44 tooth sprockets with 16 tooth freewheels. I think it was Odyssey that came out with the first 13 tooth freewheel which was a game changer for us that couldn't afford a cassette.
The hazard lite cassette was also the most affordable at the time.
💯 36x13 was my favorite gearing
My mid school bike is still running a 33/11 and odyssey hazard lites
I remember getting the hazard lite 36 triple walls when they came out. Beat the fuck outta them..only problem I ever had was blowing spokes on the front wheel from grinding. Damn good wheelset
From what I remember, I feel like everyone I rode with transitioned from Primo Tenderizer pedals to the Jim Cielencki's. Everyone had Chelencki pedals or however it was spelled.
I used to just call em Kalinki pedals lol They came in all types of colorways and limited editions like glow in the dark.
BTW I still have an Animal fitted from the early 2000's. Them caps were legit and came in all flavors. Shame to see them fall away.
I remember when people started switching over to plastic pedals, I refused to even try them.l, WalMart bikes had plastic pedals, metal pedals meant you were a real rider... I love my plastic pedals now. 😆 Animal was on the verge of becoming a legit street wear brand, I remember seeing those fitted hats being worn by rappers at the time. Crazy
All the riders in the first anthem video Taj & Joe, Chris Stauffer, Punjab, ground chuck.
I spent most of my time riding and maintaining trails in the late 90s-early 00s and watched that video thousands of times.
I wish I would have spent less time in the street and more time in the dirt, Id get jealous watching all those trails riders, still do
@@MaxxOverdrive i still spent plenty of time riding street but a good set of trails always brought riders together and you built a family. That was the best part.
Ian Schwartz and Eddie Cleveland
SF free coaster no brakes style
I still ride it
But lol 😂 blessed to grow up in Houston with Danny Hickerson & Neil Harrington to lookup to…
Those dudes were next level
What Az video is that? Couldn’t stop watching it
Its either "On The Down Low" or "Shutdown"
Mike Aitken was always who I fanboyed as a kid! 36 now and on a very modern bike, but still running the mixed tyres and chrome rim in the back, gotta pay homage to your roots!
Had 7.5” FBM bars. Still have em and a standard sta-500 platinum ox. And have some big sprockets 😅 now on 10” bars and love em.👍🏻
Im on 9" bars now with a top load stem and they are starting to feel small. Some day we'll all be standing straight up with 20" bars. 😆
I think of primo meat tenderizers, I was so use to the Anaya 7x rim bending that I got 12 gauge spokes laced to Alex triple wall rim with perigrine phat jacks hubs. Motor cycle chain, we all rode everything, flat, vert, ramp, dirt. Grinding a small height ledge was looked at as lame. Everything was right hand drive.
Damn loved seeing baker and rat on the video in the background!
I only clicked play cause I saw you playing some Skunk bros/Ells Bells video in the back round… Castillo bar was basically the mad dog bar lol good old road fools and they brought that up… quote Moller says “idk about those bars but I guess your up for a little sparing action”…
Is that the video where Moller was laughing cuz there was a wiener dog sticker on the bars?
I'm from the weight-weinie era and we drilled holes in everything, slammed the seats, i had a odyssey jr seat that was tiny, I drilled holes into my odyssey hazard rims, I'm sure we removed way too much material and thats why we broke everything.
That's awesome. I had a friend that was determined to find a way to fill his tires with helium. LOL
Same, never drilled holes but snapped several pairs of aluminum bars, tryin to save weight.
@@MaxxOverdrive moler sold s&m recently :(
@@truthandfreedom8145 Nah, Moeller didn't sell S&M. If you look around, there are quite a few podcasts with him recently.
If you tell me you did it for Albert Street at the right time I'll get legitimately emotional.
Same...🤘🏼
I had strange feelings when I found an Albert St. in Washington state
I still prefer smaller bars(7.25 rise 26 width), skinnier tires(1.85-1.95), and metal pedals(sealed magnesium). I get on some of my friends bikes and they feel like monster trucks with flat tires. I do also ride a more mid-school style flatland though.
Some other good names:
Primo - Stiffy pegs (Street/Park)
Primo - Tubesteak pegs (Flatland)
Homeles - Pornstar frame
Hoffman - Love Handles
And a newer one:
Alienation - Circle Jerks (Chain tentioner spacer)
The biggest trend I was obsessed with as a mid school was gyro brakes. Always wanted them, always broke, no one could repair them properly. I know they are much better now but I never want a set ever again
Don’t have a quote for you but my first bmx was a Fishbone Double Gusset. It had those small bars and was heavy as shit
Tiny bars for tiny bikes. Makes perfect sense.
A mate of mine runs many tennis balls on an S&M to this day.
Damn being a teenager in the mid school I did most of what you said.
Goofy is running so cut down bars you have grip on the bend to the cross bar.
Brand loyalist - "I bought a pair of vans once they suck that's why I only ride Etnies."
Baggy jeans with the right pant leg rolled.
Duct tape patch job on pants.
These videos are so sick!!!!
Thank man, hope to get some more up soon
I always ran the cheapest and easiest set up when I finally got money I did the Kevin porter tierra. Couldn’t get use to the style and now I’m back on late mid school styles. Older haro and mirraco parts odyssey dirt forks. Bars that are only 8.25 from a haro complete. The mid-school kicked in and I bought a terrible one sticker for the cross bar
You don't need the compression bolt after the clamp is tightened. Mine stays in the toolbox with the wrench. Now if only the stem and fork didn't have stickers on the mating surface for some reason... That's one thing S&M still hasn't figured out.
Burly everything. Dropouts, axles, wheels, chains, frames, tiny tires running 100psi.
The irony of the 40 lb bike era is those frames were prone to cracking because NOTHING flexed! Wasn't until years later that I figured out that mid school bikes / frames were too stiff and cracked where the two shockwaves met.
Im definitely from the ells bells no brakes, black bike, padded seat riding street era Im still riding the same set up today
"What up now" 😂😂😂
That Hoffman hat is crazy
Still also have a pair of 48h Alex triple wall wheels. Heavy as shit but spokes are still tight 20 years later. And they took some pretty big drops back then 😊
Yea those rims out lived our spines. 😆
@@MaxxOverdrive Ain’t that the truth 😂
I remember reading in a Ride Uk mag about a specific bike company that was bucking the trend of heavy "bulletproof" frames/bikes in late 90's/early 2000s. The bike/company was taking an engineering standpoint of only engineering it to how far it needed to go, no excess thickness of metal etc. I think it was taking inspiration from bikes of the 80s (that one im not sure of though, i just remember the bike being more like an 80s bike than a 90s tank)
I remember seeing kids put pull tabs from monster cans where their spokes cross lol it looked kind of cool at the time.
I was always striving for Mike Aikens style.. no pegs and just flow
It took me a long time to appreciate Aitken, as a kid I thought tricks were the measure of how good a rider was but Mike proved style and flow was just as relevant
In Machine shop in H.S I turned down a type of I bolt, I hated star nuts so much and That thing worked great. And i used to sand down break pads to knock the glaze off the rubber to work better.
💯 I also would sand my brake pads... still do, works great on disc brake pads to stop screeching
13:08 I still like rocking a basketball jersey when riding. It was and still is my favorite look from Nasty.
Oh man 😂 worst "trend" thing I did was take a Poverty super thick sprocket WITH the motorcycle chain and bolted it to Haro master guard... I'm sure the crank arms were barley on the spindle hanging on for dear life! This was the summer of sprocket stall anything and everything, bike had to be pushing more than 45lbs.
Other overkill stupid thing I did was saved up forever to get custom wheels built... 48h Alex triple walls, Primo SOB 14mm F/R hubs with 12ga spokes 🤢 and the rear axle still bent like butter🙄. I remember building my first wheel after that front Araya Super7X 36h to GT high flange race lace 3/8ths hub and XS 4x4 48h Araya RB-J1 Himiko, this was the end of my wheel woes era since I could tru my own now... I remember always sitting on the sidelines or missing the sessions because of rear wheels being garbage for me.
"It's no different!"
Subbed. You're definitely mid school just like me dude
🙋🏻♀ I'm a 4130CULT MEMBER!! Also ran tennis balls in rims -- mainly because we found them. Do you remember the PLASTIC SEAT?? JUST RAW HARD PLASTIC?? geezus
Never did soda, but we did spray RightGuard deodorant on our rims…..worked like a charm.
Here’s the myth about tennis balls In the wheels. If you find one and put it in your spokes you get good luck. You only have the luck while you can see where you found it. Once you leave the area the magical powers are gone.
Is that a Mirra frame (white one)? Thing is beefy, I miss those days but don’t miss the 50+lb bikes tho 😅.
2001 Blammo, same as the Mirra Pro from that year just a different color
I remember my dk step up had super small bars and my cranks were super fucking long u couldn’t pedal around corners without crashing. Also remember my bikes having huge sprockets and back in those days too.
I am 45 years old and when I was 16 I had my oldest brother weld washers to steel pipe that I cut 4 inches long to make pegs and they work great
Thats awesome!
I know its already sort of covered, but using motorbike chains, primary so you could crash your sprocket onto anything and everything. After the frame, the 2nd most heavy piece of gear on a bike. Fucking madness.
Nr 4 😂😂😂😂 true Story
Peace from Germany 🙋🏼♂️
Never use to boiled my grips but I did use windex to put mine on. I still do it to this day.
Windex works great, but I never use the right amount. Lol
@@MaxxOverdrive one squirt will do ya lol. I’ll spin the grip on the bar to help it go on and the friction helps it dry out.
I had the Kink Fiend Frame. Buddy had a Volume Dinosaur. Good times.
Bmx quote “FEEL MEEEE”
Ran a DK ironcross sprocket & copied Brian Castillos style. Always have loved Demolition & Volume. On a volume currently lol.
My favourite quote is “nosed!…..yeah!”
I started riding in 2009 so newer school
Dang, sounds so familiar... whats the reference?
@@MaxxOverdrive harry main how to 360 video
We used Simple Green for our rims instead of soda. Worked pretty good but obnoxiously loud braking
“Attack of the clones” 😂
Till now, I'm still a big fan of chase dehart from mosh/fit bikes to cult and also Dan lacey back when he was riding for Lotek shoes
💯
The tennis ball trend was peak bmx
Custom plate on ur honda civic😂 yup thats me 😅
I always boiled my pads 😂 another trend squeaks the louder the better soda did help lol
Pedal brake, bear traps/primo tenderisers, square stems (just for the knees), chain brake cables, pin in the jeans on the sprocket side, plastic grind disc/gaurd, KHE's built-in gyro now a 1 cable, screw on pegs, no bar ends (cookie cutters) the hate aginst Taiwanese built frames and parts etc. Good conversation im in ✌️ and there's more
Yes, Awesome stuff ! ran chain for my brake straddle cable and no bar ends for years! Bet I could do a top 100 creative Mid-School inventions list. Hmmm!
I got stickers on my truck and I have the big s&m one and fit one too 😂
Awesome
- Rider pulls up to the park, front and rear brakes, cables are disconnected from the levers and taped to the bars, essentially brakeless.
- Cutting Milk Jug to patch a hole in a tire
- "Simple Green"
- 1 inch long seatposts slammed seats
- "Indian Giver half cabs"
Wildest thing I saw was a kid who didn't have a headset in his frame so he wrapped layers of duct tape around the fork steertube to try and keep the fork from wiggling back n forth. He would ride these jumps we built on that death trap. 🥴
my favorite quote that we used I forgot who it was I think it was Sandy Carson or Taj he says he says '' a Ledge in the elementary school '' if you seen it then you know what I'm talking about and in that same video Dave Freimuth he's going down a Rail and jumps off the side in the snow and he says '' I got my koston's wet '' referring to his sneakers .... yep me and my friend were definitely copies of terrible one Joe rich and Taj we both had terrible one barcodes with gyros two pegs in terrible One bars in our style was we were trying to mimic them for sure just like you said a knobby Tire in the front and a street Tire in the back and sometimes we rode Hoffman skidmark tires 120 psi cuz we rode ramps an dirt
I think that was road fools 1
Oh and primo John Parker love hate grips , I’ve been building up bmx bikes since the late 80s , only thing I won’t mess with are my wheel sets 😂they go to my local bmx shop
Fun trip down memory lane
VHS, Props, etc.
Motorbike chain
Baggy jeans, ripped then cut to long shorts
Long steal pegs
Way too long cranks, hit ya foot on front wheel sometimes. In saying that my rear end is so short now I caint Run 4 pegs on l70s 😂.
“a dirty vegan who farted”
I was a walking clone of Seth Kimbrough, even built up the same bike he rode lol
I remember when Seth and Bruce Crisman were coming up I was such a hater cuz they were my age but so much better than I could ever be. I eventually crossed paths with both of them and they were both cool as hell. I was a fan ever since.
Mad dog bar!? Thats a dachshund right there!
😆 loved that clip!
Stauffer aint got nothing to offer!
Da SABBATH stickers, yeah you!
Shoots!🤙🏼
S&M Dive bars on a MacNeil Heaton, what up?!