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You guys gonna take 20 years to sentence him ? No reason for this to be dragging on this long . This is getting ridiculous .
I agree dang he will be 40 by the time it's over. BTW. Do you know when this continues?
The reason is the case for death has go be rock solid or it will give the defense an in for appeals that will drag on the rest of his sorry life. Isn't it ironic how Timothy McVeigh was executed in such a short amount of time but THIS creep, years later is still here?
@@robinmartz9052 exactly, This is what I was saying the other day. Ppl have been sentenced to death for far less thank this Evil POS. Did. Why on Earth it's taken over 4 years for this hearing is, mind boggling. Just adds more pain on the Victims Famillies. N.C. Has no remorse for what he did. He's been drawing disturbing pictures while he's been in jail all these YEARS UNBELIEVABLE!!
He practically begged the judge to sentence him to death. WTF is the point of all of this??!!
So many red flags with this kid growing up. I hope all schools can learn something from this or it’ll happen again.
what your saying is impossible
my 18 yr old brother died when I was 12, 3 mos later my dads mom died, 3 mos later moms mom died, 2 months later my dads brother died, 2 months later moms dad died, then 3 mos later moms brother died ... I was failing in school, I became withdrawn (I didnt want people to say anything to open my wounds) ... You just dont kill people because your didnt have a perfect childhood and life sux
Did YOU go shoot people????
he video taped himself planning the murders, it wasnt a spur of the moment insanity thing
The mother should’ve surrendered them to the state. Nik needed inpatient care and Zachary needed a therapeutic foster home. The mother kept them for selfish reasons.
He should have but apparently she would not give up on them despite what they put her through.
She rationed their food aswell 💀
I'm so done with seeing his face
I agree 100%
Imagine committing a mass murder and still breathing 4yrs later
Fr
I’m kinda confused on why these kids weren’t put into foster care. I’ve read stories where a parent can “look” at there kid side ways and CPS takes the kid away.
These kids were adopted. By what I understand is for years they didn't know about being adopted. Nicholas were 6 when his adopted Dad died which he thought was his real Dad. I think after that things went from bad to worst. His adopted Mother passed away a few months before this happened. He went to live with a friend parents. They knew he had 2 guns that they claimed required to be locked up. None of this is an excuse for what he did. This is an example how the system fails. All adopted parents isn't good parents in the home. Same way with foster parents or group homes. So sad for the loss lives.
His mother strikes me as someone desperately trying to hold on to her children despite their horrific behaviour. Not all parents would do that, many would have thrown them in the street. And even if she had, can you imagine any foster family putting up with their sadistic, destructive behaviour?
Somehow in this cruel unfriendly world some how “missed” him he just wanted a name for himself but got caught
I've heard stories where grown adults know the difference between there and their.
Man I can’t wait for “Nikolas Cruz Sentencing Trial day 365”
Oh for fawkes sake! It’s been 21 days! How long does it take to sentence someone! Hurry the heck up.
There is no need to collect evidence, he already plead.
@MLAustin5 he will never see the outside world again either way. his sentencing is either going to result in life in prison without parole or the death penalty. i’m sure the jury could have a decision by now .. i heard enough the day it happened .
Just sentence the killer. He doesn't want to be there.
my friend had horrible parents, fighting, brawling, ignored the kids, they were dirty and hungry all the time, but all 3 grew up (on their own) just fine regardless, the kids dont speak to them, but whatever
I would hate to be a lawyer having to defend someone like him
I know they are public defenders assigned to the case, but I would have to quit. I just couldn't do it. But you know they do gain some notoriety by defending him. So perhaps they stayed on the case for this reason.
When case manager talked about the meeting at school, the assessment and recommendation of actions needed she said finances was a problem.
Will the treatment, programs and whatever actions set in place for a kid with these kind of issues/challenges be have to be paid by the parents?
Not someone low income
Fool
@@josephgilbertipe1 talking about yourself?
I can’t believe with all these metal health and aggressive behaviour he was able to buy a gun. I think the gun store needs to go to prison.
How would they know?
Blame it on the fckn gun laws. Only in america. Did you ever hear about a school shooting in Switzerland? Exactly
@@Dreamagain11 That's a very good point.
100% agree ! I don’t understand why the defense does not even talk about the elephant in the room.
There was and always will be people with mental health problems, people who had difficulties in life, just bad people who can do terrible things. But if they live in a place where they can access deadly weapons so easily, instead of hurting maybe one or two people they can kill dozen of them in a minute.
Other point is, we are finding out how Cruz was obsessed with guns… who is responsible for making that possible?? When we are living a society where guns are glorified and so hardly defended by majority of people, how can we avoid that an autistic young man, who did not have the best chances don’t end up like this… the gun industry is guilty and there should be consequences to allowing this to happen
Not trying to defend Cruz at all, but I don’t think he is the only responsible. We à society failed him, and failed all of his victims. We should be focusing on never have that happening again… unfortunately we know that this did not happen
Background check of psych history should be a must
When is this starting?
i won't raise questions about how he should be punished, and I don't think Linda was the only to blame but that woman did struggle raising the two. I mean, when a mother expresses frustration over a situation her kids caused, laughing about it is a sign that they don't respect her and they laugh because they know there won't be consequences to their acts. Cursing at her over an Xbox? He'd have lost his teeth in a minute had he grew up in Brooklyn (not saying it's the right thing, just pointing out he did whatever he wanted with no consequences). Clearly Zachary had issues too, shoplifting and telling neighbors bad stuff about his own brother, stepping over his brother's food... Where was the mother to correct him somehow? Boundaries need to be established in a house, we're supposed to behave as humans not animals. I had fights with my sister when we were young but I'd never tell my neighbors bad things about her, it sounds quite manipulative, as if to distance people from his brother, no wonder Nicholas expressed almost animalistic behaviour, more of a defense mode than actual social skills. It's a sad situation, poor parenting that took a long time to correct them and that became a huge tragedy to innocent people.
fr and she was in her 60s, and a single mother. sometimes when the case worker was describing their home life it sounded exactly like an abusive relationship to me. except it was her teenage sons.
This isn't surprising because the cost of some of these recommendations are expensive. This mother, like many parents, can't afford these things because the cost is so high. That said the mother had many opportunities to have this man evaluated properly which might have helped him immensely. She is at least guilty of neglecting the help reccomended.
When is the court back in session
if he did well in a small classroom, why didnt they continue it?
Money 🤑
I am getting tired of this case
You are getting a week break.
@@Dee-zb3fz yes and there are so many witnesses who havent testified yet
Coulda cut out the first 20 minutes 😂
I worked with a girl who described herself as a coke baby, she took medication
There are kids that are born bad. We all start out from the same place. Even kids who had a horrible beginning grow up to be good people. This guy is just a bad person. Period. I had a relative who was just a bad person from the start. The sibling to this person wasn't. So they're trying to blame this Mom or whoever and take all the blame off of HIM. No matter what family he'd have been in he would have been this way.
How can someone be just bad? This is nonsense - if you haven‘t listened to what the pharma expert said - he is brain damaged caused by fetal alcohol syndrome - so his brain never developed properly which means he lacks brain function which can cause ALL his problems - I know no one will hear it cause saying a person is bad is just the easier thing to do and by telling everyone he is bad will give you permissin to end his life by death sentence. Life is not that easy and sometimes we need to admit that a person who did something evil is not bad at all but was mistreated all his life caused by the denial of the alcohol and drugs he was exposed from his birth mother - it is just neclect what she did especially with her selective telling of his problems. If all those experts and therapists knew from the other and would be informed properly this would have had never happened cause he would have gotten the help he needed from the start! I feel sad for him and for the victims but just vengeance didn‘t help to avoid those things in future
Why is this case still even going bro? 🤦🏻♂️
Fix the darn microphone
i keep telling people this, and i get told ITS NOT NETFLIX
After all the time invested into Nicholas, the protocol system of exposing teachers and students to this unexceptable behavior, and continuing absolutely unsuccessful strategies, is referred to as "a good thing". No, it wasn't a good thing. I see it as a bureaucratic negligence. This child needed so much more and he did not belong in mainstream.
May I add that the other kids in his classes should have been protected too? I can only speak for myself but there is no way I would have allowed my kids to be exposed to his aggressiveness, destructiveness, vulgarity and perversion for an hour, let alone all these years.
he remained agressive despite his medication let alone when he stopped taking it, I know these visits to the doctor were short, rare and didnt involve much psychotherapy but well, this is what you get free from the system
@@freehugs8670 Were these 3 psychologists/psychiatrists that testified free from the system? I remember one of them saying that the visits stopped when Lynda's insurance changed or something. And all 3 of them are/were private doctors. Sorry I sound ignorant, it's because I am 😁, I don't live in the States. Does the government work with private doctors?
I cannot stand this making excuses for brutally killing 17 innocent people. In my opinion the decision of punishment shouldn't be a question at all??
I I cannot believe that Public Pretender slammed his coffee cup down when his question was objected to. He is stepping on thin ice with the judge. And, ole HOT Head Melisa McNeill is getting riled up about it. All the defenders are dragging this out, wasting SOOOO much time, grasping at straws. Maybe, they have to do this as their job, but it makes it so boring and even the witnesses are getting fed up with it. You can tell by the expressions on their faces when they are asked the 98th question....just like the previous 97, but in a different form.
It seems they're trying to put as much distance between deliberation and the victims' families and survivors testimonies to murk the waters.
the audio inside the courtroom must be bananas, because she was speaking at a completely normal volume and every other answer she gives they make her repeat lmao it's gotten really annoying at this point
Parents need to understand the cost to raise a child up to 18 years of age could amount to $200-$250K. Children are not little props for decoration or to prove a happy marriage. To rely on Gov child support, teachers and case officers to educate them and be offered free activities to entertain them shows poor brain and parental emotional qualities!! 🤬
As I recall, Drs Negin, Kravitz and Karpf who were seeing him from the age of 8 to 18 were all privately hired by his mother, right? We've also heard he was seen by psychologists from the age of 3 but those ones have not testified so far. I also remember that when the two were adopted the couple was affluent but after her husband's death when NC was 6, Lynda was in financial distress. So it's not abnormal that she also had to rely on government support as well.
Yea
Exactly that’s why abortion should be a right!
@@Dee-zb3fz This is shocking 😳
The Mom (Lynda), is she passive-aggressive or what?💕
Today is Tuesday Sep. 6 no court today?
I came here to see if anyone knows too.
Listen to the system by Tom MacDonald
How long will this trial go on for ???
It really is a sentencing trial. They are trying to get him life in prison without parole. I would hate to be the jury on this case.
@@kathyclark2394 NOT me! Take his ass out behind the school, give the survivors and family members guns and torture devices and turn them loose. Once they're done with his ass throw him under the jail and call it a day. This should have been done about 20 minutes after they caught him and he confessed.
Am I the only one that notices this crazy mf doesn’t grow a beard
Danielle I agree w/ u ! 100 % ! & 2 long 4 Cruz 2 live!1 After shoting 17 ppl ! HMM UGH!! 👎😞😓🥱🤔!!
@@kathyclark2394 If only 1 person in the jury feels bad about the death penalty Nikolas would get Life.
If he gets the death penalty.and he’s only young (mr Cruz ) how long can he be in prison for before they stick a needle in his arm … asking because I live in Australia
From what I've gathered it could be up to 20 years or more or less when someone can be in death row and they aren't even given a date they are told the day of that that's that's day. So they always are wondering if today is gonna be the day. But it isn't told how many years they will be on it as far as I know
And I also forgot to add this is the case with any age as far as I know but I actually wanna find out more about that
Thank you …
@@Son0565 you're welcome:)
Honestly? It could be a lifetime before execution. Many are going through Complex and lengthy appeals processes before their time is up. As stated above they are never told when their number has been called. Although some stays in death row can be short. The shortest being in Texas with Joe Gonzales only spending 252 days.
If Americans had no easy access to guns, nobody would have died. All Americans opposed to gun laws are guilty.
If his case had been handled properly he wouldn’t have been able to purchase a gun.
Precisely!
He had an extensive record of mental issues and domestic violence. A simple background check would have shown that.
And without guns a lot of innocent people would be dead. May gun owners have saved their own lives or the lives of others. The key is to be very responsible with them.
After watching many witness testimonials I think he did the shooting because his mom died and he wanted to die. He was so babied and attached to his mom like a little boy and everyone else humiliated him.
she did a disgraceful job at bringing him up over spoilt and babied . he was a total freak , i would not want to associate with him i like decent normal human beings not violent horny weirdos be normal and you will b treat normal
*shut people out
Mom didn't help with buying him violent video games to play. She knew they made him violent when he didn't win.
@@cindyleasure6901 she also bought him that AR-15
@Boston Gal omg ,is that true
I can barely understand what she is saying
Where is linda?
She passed in 2017
Linda's gone to rekindle her relationship with Roger Cruz in the afterlife. Her long lost love. 💟
The doretts are in the room but not fred guttenberg. Prayers to the families.
Dworet* At least spell the name right.
Death by firing squad?
Why not? Make a special case out of this.
That is actually still a thing. One case I read about in GA and the other in SC.
as you all know ive been following this case for months now and its truly fascinating as you are all aware of, but LINDA, LINDA LINDA LINDA, on one hand everyone says she was a great mother and wanted to help the boys, but on the other hand she was a disaster too, we find out SHE HAD HEAPS OF MONEY, yet when the case manager wanted her to spend money on the boys to buy them food or send them to summer camp or take them to the beach she always said she didnt have the money, BUT SHE WAS LOADED, so she is to blame for this whole sage too, by the way, if everyone knew poor nick was getting bullied by zach, why didnt they take him away and put him in foster care where he would be by HIMSELF and not with a bullying step brother, i mean i never finished shrink school, but i can figure it out
She was affluent before her husband's death, afterwards she wasn't.
@@Dee-zb3fz she must have suffered from some kind of personality disorder too to do that, i mean i love money its what keeps me going as a loner but even i buy food and groceries
@@petejames1326 I have bpd and spend money on expensive things I fantasize over like a bag but I often forget to buy groceries or wait till the last minute to buy cat litter, etc. :/
How many days are left?
Aparently it goes for 4months i read
Good thing they're in Florida with all those retirees that have the time to put up with this BS.
This is Florida they do not do a very good job with kids that have mental health issues. They perfer to just move them up and out
The entire country doesn’t be fr…
I don’t understand this huge waste of time and money. Cruz doesn’t want to live, he wants the death penalty, yet his defense is arguing for his life. They are paid to represent their client’s wishes, so why this charade?
Cruz should be taken to a center to be studied, and since there is so much research into his behavior here, that will help identify other young children whose imagery is daily about sex and guns and killing, so they can be id’d early. If we studied our offenders instead of killing then or putting them in solitary, we might be able to find these white men sooner. It’s ALWAYS WHITE GUYS, so that’s a good start, too.
Lmfaaao fr tho
47:30
he almost got away too he got out the school with the evacuating students he a gangster
Last meal microwaved hotdog 🌭
With side of Kraft Easy Mac without the cheese
How many times did the public Pretender ask for a mistrial today?
The defense is doing their job. Especially when dealing with a death penalty case. That is what they are suppose to do. Also the prosecutor did tamper with a witness. This judge has never dealt with a case like this. In addition she shows biased towards the defense which on appel can get the death penalty overturned. That would be very sad, because despised all of his issues that does not excuse what he did.
Wondering if his bio mom is watching this or even knows about this.
She's dead.
The bio mom is dead
Ok wow
This trial is so ridiculous like are you kidding me send his butt to prison cause I bet my life on this if he was black he would of been in prison on death penalty the first day of court no questions ask! Like are you kidding me look at all the people he killed and you really gotta question yourself oh what should we do with him get the hell out of here! Like I will always say we are black people living in a white mans world💯
dude, you don't understand what's going on. He's already in prison, he's been in prison for 4 years now. This is to decide if the state is going to execute him or not.
Um he already is in jail he plead guilty they are just trying to determine if he gets life or death.
@@catherineanthony1699 is that even something to decide on like hello death
He’s already plead guilty this is a sentencing trial, which is still done in Florida. The jury will get to decide if he will have life in prison or if he will receive the death penalty. Quite literally a life or death decision. The jury requested to know everything and his background before deciding which is why they are getting in the weeds like this.
Personally, I don’t think this is a bad thing. I think it puts into light how no one took any action to stop this. We can learn about more warning signs and perhaps why these tragedies happen.
U don’t know what your talking about please don’t comment like that. He facing a jury so they could decide whatever he get life without a parole or death penalty his legal defense team is trying to get the jurors to prohibit the death penalty because of his condition and background . We already know the outcome to this situation and he has been sentenced. This trial is going to take a while until October because they have a lot of testimonies coming in
This woman is a joke, just blaming his adoptive mother. The woman was financially struggling and your just offering her services that she can’t afford. What kind of help is that? They failed this family and take a potion of the blame. How dare she say his mother didn’t do all she could 😡🤦🏾♀️
she had money - she was packed with money more than everyone thought she had
Okay honestly, I don't want to rude or sound "cold" but I don't care no more...this is one of the longest damn case I have ever seen. It's a shame what happened to those 17 individuals and those family are hurting the most so why keep dragging on. I do not care about the case however, it is a sad situation and devastating but damn...come on just sent his white a** to prison already damn!! smh let's just say, if he was a black man...oh boy...it will be short and sweet trail I'll leave it at that.
@@Dee-zb3fz so true, I do think that a death sentence is not going to do any justice I feel no matter what they do, personally think that nobody is winning they should just send him away...to get help. It is a sad situation. smdh.
Fr jus send him to prison. He will be dead within the first hmmm I'd say 48 hours
Nick's mom let him play video games. And his birth mom did drugs while pregnant with him. And the school missed the red flags. It's nowonder that this happened.
And you seriously think the video games are the problem? Don't be ridiculous.
@@mauricefricke6236 violent video games I believe is one small part of a big problem
@@Pinkheartwellness No, your feeble mind is just searching for a scapegoat. Violent video games have never been part of the problem. In fact, people who play violent video games are less likely to have violent outbursts. There is no scientific correlation between video games and real world violence whatsoever, every scientist/behavioural expert will tell you this. I am tired of people not understanding what video games are about, jumping to false conclusions and demonizing a whole industry.
The school did not miss the red flags. He was not a student there at the time of the shooting. There is a lack of communication between the schools and community. This kid was a ticking time bomb and was the poster boy for school shooter.
@@mauricefricke6236 Violent video games like Tour of Duty and many others are top sellers. If that was the cause of killing sprees, everyone who plays them from 18 to 40 (random ages) would be running out of their homes killing people, especially those with guns. Cruz was psychopath and a sociopath. Zachary is more of symbiotic behavior characteristics with other issues, who can, hopefully, be helped in a stable environment.
Dp