Do you have the stl files for this? I currently use an Apple AEKII that I've handwired and would love to be able to use these switches on something like this.
I would be interessted how many wires go from the one to the other side? I in the process of building a dactil too. I am thinking about to only use the Teensy, not this trrs connection thing. Or do you have already in idea, what kind of kabel (conector) would work there?
Tobias Wegener I believe there are 12 wires connecting the halves. I haven’t given too much though on a new connector but i was hoping to make it completely wireless using the tech from the mitosis keyboard.
I'm assuming your keys are all programmable like the ErgoDox? So why not just program a key to do ctrl+alt+del, etc. instead of the "Vulcan Death Grip"? I know the ErgoDox had a couple of those keys build in to the program as a default, at least that was my understanding, so I would think you could do that as well.
Great vid! How did you source the ergo caps for alps style? I'd like to make a Dactyl with alps as well but I'm worried about not being able to find caps for an ergo board.
Hello Sean, really like the result. Any way I could get your source for the matias mount holes? I'm modifying the original but would also like to use ALPS.
I took a look and it seems that I don't have the closure file that I used to generate the openscad file. However I just took some measurements and the switch hole is 15.351 x 12.55 (these are keyswitch-width and keyswitch-height in code). I know that I modified the sa-profile-key-height as well but don't remember the value. I also removed the nubs from the keyswitch. You should talk with Matt Adereth tho, he was working on a version of the dactyl that supported alps. (you can find him on twitter as adereth)
height plays a factor in the width because of the angle that the code calculates. Take your calipers and measure from the middle of the switch to the top to get your distance. The measurement is for what would be protruded from the top, I can't remember if it was to the top of the housing or the top of the switch. I do remember it being a few mm bigger tho.
How do you plan to solder all those small pins? I tried using a usb-c breakout board but that failed... maybe I could get a mini-hdmi or mini-display port female extension cable and just solder the wire straight to the board. that would be easier. Thanks for the suggestion.
alps and cherry have different hole sizes and heights. cherry is 14x14mm and alps is about 17x14mm. So you could in theory but a cherry switch in it but it's not going to be a tight fit. The other issue is that alps are higher so the curve in the center is slightly different than what the cherry switches are so would see bigger gaps between keys.
I see, then it would just be a waste of plastic for me until I get some alps. What program did you make your model in? And what do you think about making it a bit lower to have it be more easy on the wrist while typing on it in sitting down? Or is it solved by having a wrist rest?
A wrist rest is on my list of projects to make so I can't answer that question yet. I doubt that you would be able to make the keyboard much lower because it's already pretty low in the center and I would worry about the bottom of the switch/wiring hitting the desk. For the model I opened up Matt's model in clojure/open scad, removed all geometry except for the switch holes and then exported to obj and modeled everything in blender.
This was more of a vlog style review but a few b-roll shots of the keyboard couldn't of hurt. If you are more interested in what it looks like then perhaps you would be more interested in the build log (linked in the description) which shows a lot more details rather than me just talking.
U try the dactyl manuform? I love the thumb cluster angle much better from that design
Why are you not selling these on ebay or something? Some of us would pay for others with the know-how to make this keyboard.
Do you have the stl files for this? I currently use an Apple AEKII that I've handwired and would love to be able to use these switches on something like this.
I would be interessted how many wires go from the one to the other side? I in the process of building a dactil too. I am thinking about to only use the Teensy, not this trrs connection thing.
Or do you have already in idea, what kind of kabel (conector) would work there?
Tobias Wegener I believe there are 12 wires connecting the halves. I haven’t given too much though on a new connector but i was hoping to make it completely wireless using the tech from the mitosis keyboard.
Fast-forwarded the entire video. All talking. No showing the keyboard itself. No typing. Why?
Have you had any reliability issues with your Matias switches since you built this?
Vulcan Death Grip :D
Thanks for the Video!
Hi Sean, have you tried the manuform version of this? I wonder if it would be more comfortable?
Hi Sean, can you point me in the direction of someone who can do/does builds for the Dactylus. I' hoping to get one fully assembled if I can.
Brad D its a completely custom keyboard and there is no one selling cases, parts or fully assembled versions to my knowledge
Brad D reddit.com/r/mechmarket has a person willing to 3d print some variations of this. Ask on Reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards as well. Good luck!
Can one of these be purchased anywhere?
I'm assuming your keys are all programmable like the ErgoDox? So why not just program a key to do ctrl+alt+del, etc. instead of the "Vulcan Death Grip"? I know the ErgoDox had a couple of those keys build in to the program as a default, at least that was my understanding, so I would think you could do that as well.
Great vid! How did you source the ergo caps for alps style? I'd like to make a Dactyl with alps as well but I'm worried about not being able to find caps for an ergo board.
Hello Sean, really like the result. Any way I could get your source for the matias mount holes? I'm modifying the original but would also like to use ALPS.
I took a look and it seems that I don't have the closure file that I used to generate the openscad file. However I just took some measurements and the switch hole is 15.351 x 12.55 (these are keyswitch-width and keyswitch-height in code). I know that I modified the sa-profile-key-height as well but don't remember the value. I also removed the nubs from the keyswitch. You should talk with Matt Adereth tho, he was working on a version of the dactyl that supported alps. (you can find him on twitter as adereth)
height seems to be good, width is ever so slightly too short. guess it's time to buy some calipers....
height plays a factor in the width because of the angle that the code calculates. Take your calipers and measure from the middle of the switch to the top to get your distance. The measurement is for what would be protruded from the top, I can't remember if it was to the top of the housing or the top of the switch. I do remember it being a few mm bigger tho.
Try using HDMi type D for connection, 19pins more than enough, it's what I'll be using on MKPedalion a work in progress.
How do you plan to solder all those small pins? I tried using a usb-c breakout board but that failed... maybe I could get a mini-hdmi or mini-display port female extension cable and just solder the wire straight to the board. that would be easier. Thanks for the suggestion.
Sean Chapel I plan to get this m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=530764647199 it has large soldering points so it should be easy.
Are you still using this keyboard?
Not a single shot of you typing on it, over three videos?
Nice video series!
Really like the build, how would this go with cherry mx switches?
Does your model work for it or is the spacing too big?
Nvm as I understand your model only works with the alps, will have to try to model a mx one or print Matts!
alps and cherry have different hole sizes and heights. cherry is 14x14mm and alps is about 17x14mm. So you could in theory but a cherry switch in it but it's not going to be a tight fit. The other issue is that alps are higher so the curve in the center is slightly different than what the cherry switches are so would see bigger gaps between keys.
I see, then it would just be a waste of plastic for me until I get some alps.
What program did you make your model in?
And what do you think about making it a bit lower to have it be more easy on the wrist while typing on it in sitting down?
Or is it solved by having a wrist rest?
A wrist rest is on my list of projects to make so I can't answer that question yet. I doubt that you would be able to make the keyboard much lower because it's already pretty low in the center and I would worry about the bottom of the switch/wiring hitting the desk. For the model I opened up Matt's model in clojure/open scad, removed all geometry except for the switch holes and then exported to obj and modeled everything in blender.
Okay, will be interesting to follow your projects and updates!
Thanks for all the answers/help and good luck with your youtube channel! :)
Thank you for review! Where did you buy such awesome ALPS? Isn't it Matias?
Yuriy Pitometsu Yeap they are Matias clicky switches and I got them in a 200 pack from matias.ca
pretty okay review but can you please show the keyboard instead of you discussing details?
This was more of a vlog style review but a few b-roll shots of the keyboard couldn't of hurt. If you are more interested in what it looks like then perhaps you would be more interested in the build log (linked in the description) which shows a lot more details rather than me just talking.
Did you burn right before this?
Nope.
your room is super boomy
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Sound is bad - get a mic close to your mouth.