Vauxhal Signum - the 4 seat luxury limo estate failure

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @dandare1001
    @dandare1001 Год назад +159

    I worked on this project. I redesigned the chromed interior door handles for a plastic part. You can tell if the handles are the early ones because they are die cast metal. The later one I designed is plastic and you can feel the stiffening ribs on the rear surface when you operate the lever. It was part of the ironically called "cost cutting" which they start immediately after bringing in the firt version, instead of designing an optimised product in the first place. It's all internal poilitcs and the way the car industry works.
    I also designed the rear centre console (known internally as the Travel Assistant, but later changed to Travel Assist, I think). I created all of the concepts and packaging for it, including extra features that never made it into production.
    I even designed the base and did my own styling for it, which Opel accepted without even changing (I believe their stylists were overworked at the time) despite me not being a designer.
    I still have some of my sketches from before it went into development.
    The Signum wheelbase was I think 190mm longer (maybe 170mm?).

    • @newkidd9129
      @newkidd9129 Год назад +13

      I had an early Vectra C Estate (2003), and then a later one (2005). When I got the new car I was absolutely incensed at the petty cost cutting that had taken place between the two models. So many little but annoying things were cut back, like the dip stick in the lid of the washer bottle, the glovebox lock, the driver's cubby in the lower dash etc. etc. I swore never to buy another Vauxhall, and never looked at them to this day. Nice one Vauxhall/Opel/GM, a good way to hang on to your dwindling customers! Now they are re-badged Peugeots I don't see the point at all. Might as well just go to Peugeot if you're that way inclined! I don't think they'll last much longer - our local dealership has just gone bust....

    • @dandare1001
      @dandare1001 Год назад +13

      @@newkidd9129 Most of the manufacturers do the cost-cutting trick. In the Vectra they started with a padded dashboard, and then months later they went to hard plastic. Apparently they often do that, so that the early reviewers feel the plushness of the dash and comment favourably on it, and then later the cheaper version comes in.
      I don't really care about it, becasue I don't spend time caressing the dash when driving or as a passenger.
      It does however show the deliberate ineffciency of the manufacturers. It's partly to keep engineering departments working when the initial development has been done, and partly to give the suppliers extra work too (back-handers, in effect). It's so much thrown away money that comes from the consumers' pockets in the end.
      It does piss me off when I have to create something that is inferior. They don't want it good from the start. They want to keep milking the system.

    • @newkidd9129
      @newkidd9129 Год назад +2

      Interesting to see it from your perspective. I know the others do it. Rover was a good (ie bad) example in it's dying days, but I just thought what they did to the Vectra was terrible just to save a couple of $100. Did they really think the customers wouldn't notice? The poor quality of the dash and arm rest material was the thing I first noticed in the second Vectra, although mechanically it was better. With the early Vectra it seemed like we were doing the prototype testing for GM/Opel, there were so many things wrong - and it had the wrong (BMW) limp mode special diesel engine carried over from the old series as the new (Fiat) ones weren't ready in time! (They didn't tell me that in the showroom!) @@dandare1001

    • @dandare1001
      @dandare1001 Год назад +10

      @@newkidd9129 I've heard that the death of Rover had more to do with BMW than Rover. I've been told that they deliberately ran Rover into the ground because they only wanted the Mini brand (which although successful is hardly a mini. Don't they understand why it was called that?).
      Of course this could all be automotive hearsay.
      You're correct that it's a pity that Opel did that to their cars, but they are in a difficult sector. They're not really classed as a premium brand, so they can't charge the higher prices.
      People will pay more for a Merc or a VW, despite the quality not being particularly better, so their profit margins are much higher.
      That's why I respect the companies that produce the cheaper cars. Their engineers are much better than those from the "premium" brands.
      Opel/Vauxhall were never really bad, it's the image problems that make them unable to charge silly money.
      thanks to sycophantic motoring journalists (and Top Gear presenters) who often berate certain brands.

    • @newkidd9129
      @newkidd9129 Год назад +4

      @@dandare1001 I’m sure you’re right, I think they would have had an impossible task trying to save Rover, unless they just switched the model range to mainstream BMWs, but probably that wouldn’t make any sense economically anyway. As for BMW Minis, it sounds like you have the same opinion I do 😉

  • @alansorbie4038
    @alansorbie4038 Год назад +68

    Replacing the Omega with a car that looked like an Astra seemed a very odd decision by Vauxhall / Opel. My mate had one and it was pleasant enough but I’m not surprised the concept never really took off.

    • @CarsofGlasgow
      @CarsofGlasgow Год назад +4

      I agree, I never realised it was a premium car from the exterior

    • @mikenewbold1699
      @mikenewbold1699 Год назад +4

      neither did the omega

    • @losch78
      @losch78 Год назад +5

      In 2003, My father was due a new company car, and from initial pics, quite liked the Signum (he had an Omega in the 90ies and then a Passat in-between); However, the test drive left him (and me, iun my early 20ies back then) a bit puzzled, as it didn't feel particularly premium, yet all that gimmicks in the rear seat seemed IRL more gimmicky than useful, the rear seats, like many MPVs with super sidling/folding rear seats actually a bit on the firm/uncomfortable side and the exterior a bit ungainly from angles. Also, materials were very much Vectra, not even on par with the Passat he had begore, let alone proper premium cars That the 2,2DTI before the Fiat sourced 1.9 common rail was a rough engine helped little. He ended up with a Volvo s60 D5, which he still regards as the car he loved the most ever. The Signum just seemed to much like an answer to a question that no one asked.

  • @pigeonpoo1823
    @pigeonpoo1823 Год назад +67

    If you don't try driving it from the back seat I'm unsubscribing lol

    • @mpersad
      @mpersad Год назад +9

      Is it just me or does anyone else have actual nighttime dreams where they are driving a car from the rear seats? No? Just me then.😂

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  Год назад +11

      just you..

    • @eurasianlynx
      @eurasianlynx Год назад +5

      ​@@mpersadit's a reference to the Jeremy Clarkson signum review.

    • @daniidelrey
      @daniidelrey Год назад +1

      @@mpersadI once drove a green minivan into a Bazaar in my dreams. Don’t ask me more

    • @gayasparagus
      @gayasparagus Год назад

      What's it's relationship to the astra? Is it it on the same platform?

  • @alanmann1731
    @alanmann1731 Год назад +13

    I bought a 2.0T petrol second hand from the dealer less than 8 months old, with 9,000 on the clock. I still have it. She's 18 years old. A dream to drive. Huge luggage space with the back seats down. I love it.

  • @aston-martin-internationalist
    @aston-martin-internationalist Год назад +26

    Colour is 'peacock' I believe. One of my favourites Vauxhall colours of the time.
    I had a Vectra C back when they were fairly new. They're often maligned but I thought they were built pretty well and I found them a nicer drive than the Mondeo of the era.
    Quite liked the Signum. A car that no one asked for but was a nice looker. Nice engine options too.

  • @armink9686
    @armink9686 Год назад +6

    Signum, Vel Satis, Citroën C6, Peugeot 607, Skoda Superb. What an era

    • @sharonec5419
      @sharonec5419 Год назад +2

      All flops unfortunately except the Superb which is still made to this day. How many more there will be is anyone's guess but ye it was a great time for big cars alright.

  • @williamegler8771
    @williamegler8771 Год назад +18

    It is obviously a well-loved vehicle because it is in amazing condition considering its mileage!

  • @robinvandekerkhove1898
    @robinvandekerkhove1898 Год назад +43

    If I am correct, the slider between the window switches is made to use the rear windows with the same buttons. As always, love your content!

    • @LGaragem
      @LGaragem Год назад +3

      Yes, it is! I always found this weird and it always looked like a cost cutting measure to me!

    • @wacman
      @wacman Год назад +2

      Correct the slider is not a lock out but used to control the rear windows.

    • @DreamTripper
      @DreamTripper Год назад +1

      Was gonna say the same. I had a vectra.

    • @JannoG4
      @JannoG4 Год назад +3

      Yup, thats how it works. Had an Opel Signum back in the days and it was a fairly good car. Quiet, well put together and good seats.

    • @christianronn5301
      @christianronn5301 Год назад +3

      @@LGaragemAt least GM gave you a physical switch. VW does the same with a touch sensitive button so you press it by accident and need to look down to see which mode it’s in.

  • @ants9230
    @ants9230 Год назад +10

    These are built on the long wheelbase version of the epsilon platform, same as the Vectra estate. However the estate is actually about 8" longer overall. The overall length of the Signum was actually close to the Vectra saloon / hatch.

  • @johnmcl7
    @johnmcl7 Год назад +24

    Is there something wrong with me that I get excited when you're reviewing an estate? Such a welcome change from the SUVs everywhere

  • @dogcatdogable
    @dogcatdogable Год назад +4

    My dad had one of these as a company car for a while. It's amazing how much of an oddball it was deemed to be just for the four seat thing.

  • @EdgyNumber1
    @EdgyNumber1 Год назад +5

    When I first saw this before production, I was seriously wondering, 'what were they thinking.'
    I knew from the get-go, based on how popular the Renault Vel Satis was(n't) this was never going to sell.

  • @alanryderb
    @alanryderb Год назад +6

    I was going to buy one many moons ago but the wife pooh poohed the idea. Bought a Vectra C 2.2 Elite instead. It was the rear end that had put her off. PS, the second cd slot is the sat nav

  • @daftbugger2011
    @daftbugger2011 Год назад +6

    One thing I've noticed with Vauxhalls is their insanely accurate speedometer, when it says you are doing 60 you are definitely doing 60 according to the satnav. I've seen that twice now in an old clapped out Corsa (c?) an my current clapped out 166000 mile Astra.

  • @dumitrescuemil7636
    @dumitrescuemil7636 Год назад +1

    That “lockout” slider is actually the control switch for front or rear windows

  • @rogerking7258
    @rogerking7258 Год назад +2

    I actually went to look at buying one of these when they were new. The salesman was so desperate to impress on me that it was an exclusive vehicle and would therefore hold its value well that I smelled a rat and took it no further. Financially, I dodged a bullet there, but I reckon they'd have been stonking value second-hand. Looks like the interior trim hasn't aged well on this one.

  • @MrAaronb400
    @MrAaronb400 Год назад +1

    I remember the irmscher ones having 2 vauxhall senator 24v style exhausts (letterbox). Haven't seen a signum for a little while now

  • @Nathan.Guthrie
    @Nathan.Guthrie Год назад +3

    My parents had 4 of the V6 Signums when I was growing up. It was a great school run car from my perspective of the back seat!

  • @danmccarthy4700
    @danmccarthy4700 Год назад +2

    I have a Pontiac G6 convertible which rides on the same long wheelbase Epsilon platform as this Signum and it actually surprises me how dissimilar the 2 cars are. You'd think there'd be a ton of switchgear and other interior components in common but aside from the stiff, hard-wearing leather and the elephant hide plastic there's nothing. Even the steering wheel is different which really surprised me.

  • @BrooksterMax
    @BrooksterMax Год назад +10

    I think it’s a shame GM are not in Europe anymore. We won’t see any oddities like this either now.

  • @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels
    @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels Год назад +4

    They only sold around 17,000 Signums over 5 years. Had the actual Vectra estate in Exclusiv trim and it was far more basic than this. I ragged that car something chronic.

  • @gregwhitaker438
    @gregwhitaker438 Год назад +4

    I recall getting one of these as a hire car back in the CM days. I did enjoy it a lot more than the usual base-spec Vectra we’d usually get. Apart from being comfier, the 3.0 v6 oil burner was ten times better than the underpowered Ecotec in the Vectras.

  • @richardhaywoodh
    @richardhaywoodh Год назад +1

    Re rear electric windows, I think what you called the 'Lock out Slider' on the drivers door panel, slides so rear windows can be controlled by what is usually the front window controls? Amazingly a VW Phaeton has the same cinfusing system.

  • @CreRay
    @CreRay Год назад +2

    Ah yes, the Signum. I remember when it came out, the first time I saw one was inside VW where I wrote my thesis at the time. It should be pointed out that the Signum came out well before the Vectra that was based on it, the old Vetra was still around at the launch of the Signum. It definitely had a very new look, especially the back had quite a bold look. A curious move, nobody at the time was really sure what to think of it. Part of its appeal was certainly its very modern looks, but that didn't count anymore when the Vectra was launched looking absolutely identical.

  • @kd23se4
    @kd23se4 Год назад +6

    We took a 3.0 cdti from the dealer to test 24h, as a posible company car. The understearing was crazy in corners if you where driving a little more agresive since the car had 400Nm torque and fwd. But still a nice car.

  • @anthonyperkins7556
    @anthonyperkins7556 Год назад +7

    It was a great vehicle, practical, roomy, comfortable, and quite nice too but the public didn't know what to make of it and it didn't sell well which is quite surprising.

    • @alanedwards3180
      @alanedwards3180 Год назад +2

      I agree. I owned one a few years ago and it was brilliant . So versatile and good spec .😊

    • @ayrproductions
      @ayrproductions Год назад +2

      Because in the end it was just a Vectra.

    • @shroomyesc
      @shroomyesc Год назад

      It doesn't surprise me, the inside experience was largely the same and the design in and out was fully the same as any old Vectra or Astra of the time without any better equipment by default.

    • @anthonyperkins7556
      @anthonyperkins7556 Год назад

      ​@@shroomyescNot just because it was a tarted up Vauxhall Vectra, the problem was, is that it was a bit of an oddball car.
      To have the practicality of an estate car combined with 4 spacious comfortable rear seats, when many regular estates can carry five people comfortably and their luggage, was placed in a market where there was already lots of similar cars doing similar things for the same money.
      Coming up with plenty of niche vehicles in a market where plenty of competitors were doing the same thing, doesn't necessarily guarantee that you will sell them.

  • @davidwilliams5247
    @davidwilliams5247 Год назад +1

    I remember John the Chauffeur for the vauxhall CEO at the time Nick Reilly getting one.
    He didnt hate the car but said it looked embarrassing alongside other CEO vehicles.
    To be fair he had a point the day before he was driving a top spec Omega.

  • @johnedwards3198
    @johnedwards3198 Год назад +3

    I've seen a few Vectra based hearses back in the day because I'd love my last ride to be in a Vectra! Although not as ironic as going out in a Volvo, one of the most safety focused cars... a bit late to worry about safety after the fact

  • @paulillingworth1242
    @paulillingworth1242 Год назад +5

    It always reminds of an oversized Astra. They should have made more of a Omega / Senator type car to replace the outgoing Omega. Vauxhall’s solid little cars but criticised by many and the media , unduly criticised in my opinion, had many different ones over the years and like the wife’s current Astra great cars, reliable not bad to drive and comfortable.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Год назад

      They were criticized for good reason, they were cheap and felt it.
      Not super comfortable but didn't drive particularly well either, what's the point?
      Reliable yes but overall absolutely destroyed by the competition.

    • @paulillingworth1242
      @paulillingworth1242 Год назад +2

      @@kristoffer3000 I agree expensive, we’ve had “premium German competition brands“ I won’t be wearing that hat again unreliable , fall apart and not that inspiring to drive , not sure what what the hype is about? each to their own I guess, I’ll keep with Vauxhall/Opel and Ford easy to look after, reliable and comfortable enough for me .

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Год назад

      @@paulillingworth1242 Your comment does not make a lot of sense.
      Neither does your devotion to inferior cars but to each their own

  • @SteliosBen302
    @SteliosBen302 Год назад +1

    4:45 with optional whoopee cushion......I remember the Signum in my local Vauxhall dealer and it being quite a big car back then. A forerunner to today's crossovers

  • @siraff4461
    @siraff4461 Год назад +1

    I had a 2.2 direct elite back in the day.
    Quite a nice drive. Not engaging but you could just sit back in that thing. It rode miles better than my Vectra SRi of a similar age too.
    The slider in the window switches is to toggle between the buttons controlling front and rear windows.
    Mine had the 5 seat option and they all slid fore/aft individually.
    The only things I didn't like was the interior trim where its painted wore in a few places making it feel old and the high pressure fuel pump decided to give up which was quite the bill.
    I don't remember it making so much road noise as this one.
    On the motorway it was quite relaxed.

  • @sidsod1616
    @sidsod1616 Год назад +2

    Its not a twin cd player, the bottom is for the navigation disc

  • @buggs9950
    @buggs9950 Год назад +1

    I had to have a butchers at the Malibu Maxx and it's even more hideous than I could imagine.
    One the photos on the Wikipedia page has one of my favourite captions; "2006 Chevrolet Malibu MAXX SS, trying its best to evade my lens".

  • @seancooke7332
    @seancooke7332 Год назад +2

    Always fancied one but I was put off when I saw only 4 seats but I later made aware that you could have five.
    My Brother bought a 2008 Vectra SRi 1.9 Turbo Diesel with 150 bhp and that six speed box. It was very comfortable and roomy and loved the fast lane while returning 56 mpg. Loved that car so much torque. My other Brother had the same engine in an Alfa 156 and which was a very quick car.
    Fast forward to today and the Vectra has been replaced by a SAAB 93 with the same engine and an Auto box. Guess what ?? The automatic doesn't blunt the performance one bit.
    I will own a Signum one day.

  • @markboyle9941
    @markboyle9941 Год назад +4

    Always had a bit of a soft spot for Vauxhall's. My mate had a K reg Cavalier 1.8i back in the 90's as his first car. It was really sophisticated compared to my much older (but comfier) Renault 18... Try finding one of those!

  • @damilolaakanni
    @damilolaakanni Год назад +2

    I've seen a few of these around badged as Opels (GM owned Opel during the production run of this car), and they're good looking in person.

  • @matthewjones4208
    @matthewjones4208 Год назад

    Had a 2.0 turbo. Absolute sleeper. Unassuming rocket ship and the gear change was short and slick. Full of little tricks which you notice when you no longer have them. Roof pockets for sunglasses etc. slide blinds for the rear windows, and the rear wash wipe was linked to the front windscreen wipers. If they stopped, so did the rear. If they were intermittent then so was the rear, and if they went on constant, it did the same. So practical.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Год назад +2

    Strange indeed. A friend swapped his quite nice Omega estate for one of these. I never understood why. Neither did his son who bought the Omega from him. Odd thing.

  • @Ramcharger85
    @Ramcharger85 Год назад +2

    Lovely color for a awesome looking wagon

  • @hairywol
    @hairywol Год назад

    Nostalgia Alert!
    I had a 56 plate Signum Elite diesel auto, bought ex-demonstrator at a year old. Fully loaded, satnav, leather, auto lights and wipers, everything.
    I'd actually gone to the showroom to see a 3-year old MB C-class estate that I didn't actually like much, when this caught my eye. Vastly superior to the driving experience of the Merc, bought it immediately and kept it for three years.
    I had been very fond of the Omega, and had both saloon and estate versions, but it went out of production. The Signum was supposed to fill this gap in the range, which it most certainly failed to do. Fine enough car in its own right though.
    The indicators were bloody annoying though, both to me and the poor drivers around me as they flashed with a mind of their own. I think you'll find the car does have rear electric windows, with a rocker switch selecting between front and back.

  • @RobinCapper
    @RobinCapper Год назад +1

    Was wondering about the twin CD slots! Glad you mentioned later on

    • @daveawhittle
      @daveawhittle Год назад

      It doesn’t have twin CD player slots, the lower slot is for the Sat nav disc which was a CD Rom back then 🤣

  • @donotatme
    @donotatme Год назад

    I always thought of these as a "shooting brake" vectra and never gave them much thought. Just now finding out they were supposed to be a luxury car. Our neighbors back then were huge vauxhall fans. Their elders had a gold one of these and they had a zafira, both diesel. You could always hear them leaving because the engine sounded like a tractor, my dad always called them "vibrating plate compactors" because of the clanky sound lol

  • @einpercy825
    @einpercy825 Год назад

    Wow, I learned a lot of new stuff today. Always thought, it was just a funky looking Vectra. Even tho I am really into these cars, I have not looked deeper into them yet. Now I want one, but with my Saab 9-3 SportCombi, I already have a car from this plattform.
    I have seen a Vectra C estate facelift with electric trunk, so it was around at that time. Thx for sharing this brilliant video!

  • @williamfence566
    @williamfence566 Год назад +2

    had a vectra around 2003 and considered the signum at the time but thought re sale would be more difficult. as pointed out I wasn't sure who would pay Merc / BMW money for a vauxhall later on . Vectra was boring but faultless and cost peanuts to run for the 4 years I had it .

  • @fiveminuteman
    @fiveminuteman Год назад

    Got a lift in one from a colleague in Germany and was quite impressed back in the day.

  • @wazzock999
    @wazzock999 8 месяцев назад +1

    I own a 2006 Signum 1.9TDCi 150HP and I love it :)

    • @Daz_Stap
      @Daz_Stap 8 месяцев назад

      It's a great car!

  • @dglcomputers1498
    @dglcomputers1498 Год назад +1

    I assume the big problem with cars like this is that if people want premium then they go to a premium brand for the "cache". Telling someone that you've got a fancy new Vauxhall doesn't have the same ring to it as telling them you have a fancy new SAAB.
    That's why the likes of Toyota and Hyundai have been successful with their posh cars, they're under a completely different brand, it's not look at my fancy Hyundai it's look at my fancy Genesis.

  • @chmielewski_automotive
    @chmielewski_automotive Год назад

    I have a Signum Sport from late 2003 and I love its versatility. I even recorded a video about him on my channel.

  • @say6660
    @say6660 Год назад

    Years ago I had a 54 reg Signum 3.2 V6 petrol auto. It was pretty rare in that spec then so i'd be surprised if any left now. It was pretty fast in a straight line but not great in corners. I loved it though. The engine was upgraded a few years later to a 2.8 turbo. Also rare now. Mine had been converted to run on lpg so pretty cheap to run to.

  • @quintengale7750
    @quintengale7750 Год назад +1

    As with mid-top spec Vectra The electric window switches are front&rear from drivers door select by sliding central switch in said direction so yes it has front/rear electric windows

  • @Jay-B1750
    @Jay-B1750 Год назад +2

    I saw a few of these back in the day as I don't live far from the Astra factory in Ellesmere Port, I knew someone who worked there so I guess alot of the employees had them on "The scheme" available to staff.

    • @barryheller157
      @barryheller157 Год назад

      Even Vauxhall staff didn’t want the signum but it was the same price on the scheme as a corsa. Bargain for family drivers.

    • @Jay-B1750
      @Jay-B1750 Год назад

      @barryheller157 haha really I did know someone with one but they didn't have it long, I knew someone who had the ex BSM cars they were shit 😂🤣😂

  • @aftergrowth
    @aftergrowth Год назад +1

    The twin cd is one for music and one for the sat nav cd

  • @paulturner2911
    @paulturner2911 Год назад

    I had a Signum once, having always been a Vauxhall man (currently have an Insignia) I always liked my Vauxhalls. My signum was a pretty rare (I think) 3.0V6 CDTI Elite with a MANUAL 6 speed box, plus it has a VXR kit on it which actually was very subtle. My kids really liked the idea of the sliding rear bench. Just a shame the sat nav was in Polish which I never did change back despite my efforts to do so. It had a beige leather interior and was comfy on long(ish) journey's. I must say I don't miss it really, I do miss my ultra rare Insignia 2.0CDTI Bi-Turbo Elite Nav, which had every optional extra possible fitted to it, wish I'd kept that one!

    • @Kieran_OPC
      @Kieran_OPC Год назад

      I've got an early 59 reg siggy Elite as my daily got it for £500 with the 1.8 petrol sadly but can't really complain. Its got every 2009 option fitted to my knowledge but it's a horrible car I've decided I'll be dumping it soon in favour of another vxr to daily. I can run my astra vxr arctic daily cheaper than it!

  • @hypernova3527
    @hypernova3527 10 месяцев назад

    I really miss old Opel/Vauxhall indicators. They were more exciting than snap-on ones (up to how exciting indicators can be) and allowed you to make quite an agile indicator shift from left to right.
    Once I bought my Insignia I hoped for it to still have them, but I wasn't that lucky.

  • @Penfold101
    @Penfold101 Год назад

    I had a couple of these and loved them - they were different and less well known, all the space of the estate but much more stylish at the back, the floor went completely flat with the rear seats down, and the back seats were two individual ones. It's a shame they never made a version based around the Insignia.

  • @dexietyy7922
    @dexietyy7922 Год назад +1

    Always wanted one of these but they’re super rare where I live I think I’ve seen 1 in 22 years of being alive

  • @paulrollings6573
    @paulrollings6573 Год назад +5

    I bought one in 2009, a fairly rare 2.0 turbo with a 6 speed manual in Design trim. It was only 4 years old and it looked quite stunning. Quick for such a heavy car, the engine was smooth and responsive but very thirsty - I rarely saw anything over 25mpg. Kept it for 4 years but moved it on because of the high running costs.

    • @mrwaltzerboy
      @mrwaltzerboy Год назад +1

      My Z20NET with a few upgrades (14t, green injectors, vxr intercooler n stage 3 map)does 23 mpg avg n on motorways will get 41. Even before the upgrades it was doing 28 mpg avg n motorway @70 would get 43 avg

  • @asifnoaman8978
    @asifnoaman8978 Год назад +4

    The vectra is a solid car. Reliable, practical and still looks sharp in the right spec. The VXR is perfect on the motorway as well and can take a few ponies under the bonnet

    • @WestYorkshireGuy1
      @WestYorkshireGuy1 Год назад

      If you can afford the VXR extortionate road tax.

    • @asifnoaman8978
      @asifnoaman8978 Год назад

      @@WestYorkshireGuy1 depends which model year you get. I believe the later models were cheaper but I never understood how it works

  • @kenshilcock7198
    @kenshilcock7198 Год назад

    The marketing for the 2.0petrol version made special mention that it had Trionic, SAAB's Engine Management system

  • @Future-Classic-Cars
    @Future-Classic-Cars Год назад +1

    Omg I was only thinking of this car a few days ago and how I'd love to see you reviewing it.
    Mad! I think the Signum was ahead of it's time.
    Imagine a stunted S-Class now! That would be wild.

  • @Leehuss5582
    @Leehuss5582 Год назад +1

    When I hear Vauxhall I can't stop thinking about my neighbours 2litre Calibra he had. Would let me drive it IF I washed and vacuumed it.
    Still love the front of car and seats interior....

  • @Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars
    @Luke-PlanesTrainsDogsnCars Год назад +1

    It's overall a cool concept....there weren't many fridges on the market that came with a car.

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw8332 Год назад +1

    A brave attempt by Vauxhall Opel. Shame it never took off, however it doesn't look as classy as a decent specced Omega on the inside. Expected to see some wood on the dashboard.
    I wonder how the Signum performed against the Renault Vel Satis?

  • @Graham_Langley
    @Graham_Langley 11 месяцев назад

    I remember someone asking a paper's weekend motoring section for advice on four cars they were considering buying, ranking them 1 to 4 with the Signum fourth. The advice given was to move the Signum further down the list.

  • @drd6416
    @drd6416 Год назад

    I had a 1.9 this elite which had sensor faults, and swapped it for the 3.2 diesel.. which again suffered from electrical gremlins.
    Damn shame as it was pretty rapid, economic, sporting but still comfortable and looked pretty slick... but folks seemed to think it was a custom Vectra where I live.
    If it had been built and marketed properly it would have been one of the best out there for the time.

  • @joshbacon8241
    @joshbacon8241 Год назад +1

    Who remembers when Jeremy Clarkson tried to drive a Signum from the back seat in Series 2 of Top Gear in 2003?

  • @david1731048
    @david1731048 Год назад

    That interior brings back so many memories of my (pre facelife) 2005 Vectra SRi. Seemed so modern at the time! £9000 for a 10 month old car. Them days are gone!

  • @mehrzahl2219
    @mehrzahl2219 Год назад +1

    The Bentley ASMR reference isn't lost on me 😂!

  • @donnyrover1
    @donnyrover1 Год назад

    I had a 3.0 litre V6 derv , in black , looked nice but.... understeered a fair bit , noisy, went back to the garage to replace the infotainment which had shorted out due to water ingress also water ended up in the passenger footwell . A vectra problem too ,due to a drainage channel blockage ( below the windscreen ) with leaf debris , curable in seconds ,( found out too late on t,internet) not part of the service schedule apparently

  • @NorwayChallenge
    @NorwayChallenge Год назад

    I had a 2007 Opel Vectra and it had a powered lift gate. I could even open and close it from the key fob.

  • @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
    @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain Год назад +1

    Excellent Review Matt, a friend had one of these when it was not much to buy and ran it for a couple of years. Looked good in red as well as this shade of Peacock.

  • @russellthechemist8291
    @russellthechemist8291 Год назад +1

    This is a car I would definiteely want to own. I had a Mk2 Mondeo at that time and this was definitely an upgrade on that.

  • @faustinaadu2284
    @faustinaadu2284 Год назад +1

    They could also be specked with a DVD Player in the back as well 😊

  • @clivewright4398
    @clivewright4398 Год назад +1

    The cd slots on the stereo system . Top slot for sat nav update disc and bottom for normal cd.

  • @3vom
    @3vom Год назад +1

    If you remove the fridge, you have a small seat which wasn't much use as it had weight and height limits. I also have the feeling Vauxhall tweaked the trim levels and options quite a lot for a car that only had a 5 year run.

  • @shroomyesc
    @shroomyesc Год назад +1

    This was always a weird car to me (here as the Opel Signum) for the fact that unlike other volume brands trying their hand at a luxury car (Say, VW Touareg, Renault Vel Satis) instead of giving the car boatloads of equipment from base like the Korean brands often did with their luxury sedans (Before Genesis split off) or dousing it in nice materials they focused on a spacious rear seat and higher output engines, while everything else was left Vectra/Astra.
    So unless you paid extra for options, the inside experience was rather the same as any old Vectra or Astra of the time with the same materials, same equipment and same overall design. The facelift perhaps improved things a little but perhaps by then the damage was done. Sure you'd have a leather steering wheel and automatic A/C, but so did my friend's 2004 Astra wagon.

  • @johncross4700
    @johncross4700 Год назад +1

    I had a 12 month old one in a blue/grey colour 2.0 turbo.Great family car but for me it was too slow for the poor mpg but too powerful to get good mpg 170bhp I think good bargain though

  • @lucasorourke7887
    @lucasorourke7887 Год назад

    My grandad had one of these. A 54 plate elite and he loved it till he got an insignia elite in 2010. He’s a Vauxhall loyalist.
    Also he had the 5th seat option, it was weird af and literally pointless because it was rock hard. And it’s not a twin CD, one was for the Nav.

  • @markymark-r
    @markymark-r Год назад

    I love the Signum. Had many Vectra C’s, still have one now, but never owned a Signum. Trying to find a decent one now is getting tough.

  • @alextoft9199
    @alextoft9199 Год назад +2

    I just don't understand it? Its a nice car but for me I'd just buy a Vectra or Astra. Doesn't feel special enough although the extra space is good. Not knocking this generation of Vauxhall though. Ive driven and been a passanger in my friend's 2006 Astra and its brilliant. Not exciting but decent drive, nice design and feels very well made. On the motorway it is a fabulous cruiser. Extremely quiet. 😊

  • @Toolsandtech868
    @Toolsandtech868 Год назад +1

    I had the prefacelift signum 2.2 dti elite with the travel assist and also had alot of storage in the head lining had the car for 5 years was really a under rated car

  • @gunnarliljas8459
    @gunnarliljas8459 Год назад +2

    You had me at "That lifts up to be a thing...."
    Quite a nice car, actually!

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 Год назад +1

      Yeah, but what is? The... Thing?

    • @bunter6
      @bunter6 Год назад

      ​@@ingvarhallstrom2306 well it's clearly a thing for.... umm..... stuff.

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis Год назад +2

    Nice car, with the great FIAT common rail diesel.

  • @Clappers89
    @Clappers89 Год назад

    Loving the eclectic mix of cars and review style; excellent stuff 👍

  • @richardhunt1384
    @richardhunt1384 Год назад

    Close to a Vectra estate but not he same, had an estate and there was even more space in the back. Probably an estate length floor plan used though.
    4:42 the windows for the rear are operated by sliding the centre slider downwards (you called it a lock out switch), saved space on having four buttons on the driver's door panel.
    Mine was an Ex Thames Valley Traffic Car but didn't last in service for very long due to having a massive ECU glitch that even Vauxhall couldn't sort out. It had a remap and P Box fitted but think the installation was done by the Janitor not a trained technician. Still when it did work without throwing up the engine light and going into limp mode the 3.0lt V6 Diesel went like a rocket. Plus because the ECU was crap it over fuelled and the World went black under hard acceleration.... Good laugh when being tail gated and they disappeared!!!! 😂😂😂😂

  • @denisgrubic69
    @denisgrubic69 Год назад

    Nice review, but on a radio it's not two CD slots; bottom one is for a cd, top one is for navigation map cd 👍

  • @sammuslu2992
    @sammuslu2992 Год назад

    I had a mk 1 vecra gsi 3.2 v6 it was a rocket ship and handled amazing with good kit inside

  • @andysalter4473
    @andysalter4473 Год назад

    My Dad was offered a Signum back in 2006 ish, ( dont know the spec, but it was auto)by the garage that he used. He said no as it was far too big for him, so he bought a Rover 800 instead!
    I like them, but it is a bit of a strange recipe. Loved the video Matt.

  • @shieldaigbencher
    @shieldaigbencher Год назад +3

    Interesting moment in an encounter with a Signum. So I arranged to meet a colleague in a pub carpark in Leicester. I drove into the carpark in my some years old high mileage Mercedes E220D and apparently there were a couple of speed bumps but I didn't notice them particullaly in my E class. My colleague arrived in his Signum which was 5 or 6 years newer than my Merc. On exiting the car park, the same two speed bumps in the Signum felt like we had driven over a couple of IED's. Terrible cars.

  • @heavyt749
    @heavyt749 Год назад

    I have one of these had it for about 14yrs . Although I’m a classic car owner I didn’t really think of this as a classic too ! Mines 2004 2.2 petrol 70.000 miles extremely practical but tends to feel like it hops at the back around corners sometimes. The indicators wind me up

  • @chrislarge8704
    @chrislarge8704 Год назад

    I had an Elite trim with the 3.0 V6 diesel engine. It was an absolute bargain second hand. I really liked it. Good car.

  • @theskinnybiker5908
    @theskinnybiker5908 Год назад

    I had a signum as my company car. Was lovely and never let me down, at the time of having the car I was down roughly 1,200 miles per week!!

  • @johang7498
    @johang7498 Год назад +2

    I quite liked the last generation of vectras, especially the GTS versions and this signum as well. It was like an interesting experiment: you knew in advance that Opel/Vauxhall wouldn't sell many of them, even if only because the target audience was too conservative for it and really didn't want to look beyond their usual 5-series or A6 options. Much the same story as with the Renault vel satis of (I think exactly) the same era, really. Have you ever driven one of those, btw?
    Anyway, I somehow can imagine there are people who wouldn't want anything else after a signum experience, because that's how things go with a car that's unique, isn't it? GM really should have been given more recognition for trying to bring something new back then.

  • @simon8864
    @simon8864 Год назад

    I've had two of these. And I loved them.
    Especially like the reclining rear seats
    I think it looks like a bigger Astra

    • @Daz_Stap
      @Daz_Stap Год назад

      I keep saying that I am going to put Astra++ badges on the back!

  • @histriamagna1014
    @histriamagna1014 Год назад +1

    In a weird way Hyundai is using this concept for the new IONIC 5.

  • @ZafiraSteve
    @ZafiraSteve Год назад

    4:37
    It does have rear window switches in the front. The slider between the two front window switches is to control either the front or rear windows. Slide up for front, slide down for rear. Hope that helps
    12:11
    Also, the front end is identical parts to the Vectra, it differs from the B pillers back.
    15:04
    The vectra Estate is 8 inches longer than a Signum.
    Many incorrect facts within this upload!

  • @JAY61ish
    @JAY61ish Год назад +1

    Always like the Signum. dunno why just did/do.. Put an Irmscher style grill on it though.. Thing is ..The general public have no imagination so buy what everyone else buys.. just look at the numbers of boring SUV's on the roads.. if they didn't have badges on them they would all be the same ..

  • @frazzleface753
    @frazzleface753 Год назад

    I think I would forego the fridge. Listening to two different audio sources? I wonder how that sounds?!

  • @JamesSmith-td5iq
    @JamesSmith-td5iq Год назад

    The "really interesting bus" is a modernised RF green line coach.

  • @jennydonne8946
    @jennydonne8946 Год назад +3

    Nice car, lovely colour. Improved by the facelift but ruined by the stupid indicator and wiper stalks. Same stalks as the Astra g, when I used my brothers Astra g it was a good car but the indicator stalk was infuriating

    • @karlbarpov3818
      @karlbarpov3818 Год назад +2

      I've got a Vectra C at the moment, had an Astra G and don't remember it having the same indicator stalks. Was it the Astra H?

    • @BrooksterMax
      @BrooksterMax Год назад +2

      @@karlbarpov3818 yes I think it was the later H, I don’t remember the G having this. The G still had the stalks from the early 90s.

    • @jennydonne8946
      @jennydonne8946 Год назад +2

      @@karlbarpov3818 was the 5th generation Astra H? My mistake I ment the h