State Of Origin Game 3 Review Show with Wally Lewis & Ryan Girdler
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- James Graham is joined by Origin royalty with the King Wally Lewis & Blues legend Ryan Girdler to recap one of the best deciders in recent memory. The team go through the heroes that etched their name into history for NSW, talk what went wrong for QLD, we put the spotlight on Slater's selections for game 3 & talk the moments that sealed NSW's victory.
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I used to hate King Wally when he played for the Maroons, but I love listening to him now. He seems like a chill, kind and funny bloke great to see him on.
Agreed 100%. I grew up calling him a *anker. The mans a legend. He seems like a champion bloke. Very honest and humble.
There was nothing to hate about Wally, he was a real gentleman on the field.
@@markbowman2890 Except for the fact that he broke our hearts south of the border time and again. He played hard and tough though. A king on and off the field.
@@bushybill7189except every time brett kenny played five eighth
I'm a Qlders and hate NSW but through out the series they were the better team.. I love Billy but imo I think he didn't address the physicality issue its always won through the middle to give space for the backs... For me Girds was on the money in everything he said was exactly what I was thinking.. Wally well he is the King 👑😂😂.. Just happy he's still giving us his time... Loved the podcast mate keep em coming 💯👌
I don't hate the toads, I do hate when NSW born players are running around in maroon, drives me absolutely nuts.
Great chat. Shout out to King Wally, gracious in defeat
He always is, and he's gracious and humble in victory as well! Long live the King!!
Everything Billy wasn't!!!
Sookie Geordie cud learn a thing or 2
The King is the real deal but he also knows what the toads do when they have been shamed.
Great to see the legendary Wally Lewis on a post-origin podcast
Great to hear such objective views n brilliant takes on the game from legends of the 2 states, all be it a few days in the aftermath.
BEWARE THE DROPPED BALL!
That was drubbed into me in the 1960’s. (Same age as King Wally and Wayne “Junior” Pearce.)
Everyone gets thrown off balance when the ball hits the ground. That first try came from not one, but two fumbles in a row. It breaks the defence as often as a chip kick does…and I don’t know why. But it does.
Billy was sucked into playing Ponga because QLD had some success throwing it wide and running NSW around in the 2nd game. But game 3 is like a grand final, everyone lifts, the defence is tighter, so that wide running game plan doesn’t have the space to work.
God bless you Ryan Girdler, my Panthers hero. AM from PNG and since that small 1 minute with Brandy and late Ben Alexander, Mark Geyer, Brad Izzard and Royce in Sydney during my time at RMC Duntroon, ACT, I have been a Panther till now. Every time I see heroes like you Ryan, I can only thank you for giving us your fans a premiership. Take care. Panthers got good fan base in PNG.
Yer hes good on the show honest n funny
Love listening to Wally The King. That's how the greats talk. I hate him for being the King, but he sure deserved it. Love his wisdom.
We NSW were always going to dominate through the middle but Queensland held them and so often their brilliant backs will get the ball and score it just didn't happen this time, this was such a close game, really enjoyed it.
Good spot Jimmy - speaking of short drop-outs, who remembers in the commentary when Joey mentioned Richie Mo'unga's possible influence on Luai's kicking technique, as he was bought into camp this week?
Yep, I heard that.
QLD selectors have something to answer for not picking Fifita.
Great discussion guys. What a great series. The highest quality sports event in the world calendar. It is a must watch, even from here in W. Cumbria, England.
Love how the king speaks absolute legend! I’m way too young to ever watch him play but love the way he talks about the game!
You would have loved to see him play. Tough, smart, conniving, cheeky, a game changer. That’s why he’s the King……..
Meh. he's over rated.
@@kw5732 cough cough and your claim to fame is???????????
@@MBKMA69 troll doll
@@magicmike2319 and your claim to fame is???? Oh that’s right open mouthed at the Oxford St Mardi Gras…….
Cleary or Moses, a great quandary for NSW.
If Madge is smart you play Cleary 7 and Moses at 6. Unfortunately Luai is going to have to work miracles with the Tigers to get the call up again as a starter or maybe you have him as your utility.
@@MrCeegeezyhmm.. I like your thinking. Interesting..
@@MrCeegeezy Cleary at 9, Moses at 7 and Luai at 6?
Girdler is an amazing analyst. Great communicator and razor sharp mind. The other two here aren’t catching the points he is making.
hey so I love to soak up the talk that surrounds the NRL throughout the season from a whole bunch of different voices and I have to say that this podcast is the best of thelot by a long way. I really am impressed by James Graham...his knowledge of the game is second to none but the fact he manages to articulate his view points so fluently is just inspiring seeing as he transformed sam burgess face into lookin like SLOTH from the goonies {} in one tackle using only his head yet never slurrrrrrs a word..... im all about this one..."hey you guy's"
Mitch killed it, he is 29 now and into the golden years. Nathan is still only 26, he came in when he was in his early 20s, to origin, as a half. Jarome will be half at wests. Nico is still in the conversation.
Mitch is definitely the incumbent but what a dilemma to have.
I think everyone also sleeps on how well Moses played in the Original game he broke his back.
QLD "won" game 1 against a 12 man NSW squad, then was bullied in game 2 and had no answers in game 3. epic
Bro moses should of got player of the series straight up. He won the game for the blues
Jimmy, you missed your opportunity to say NO when Girds asked if he could ask you a question. I was waiting for it😂😂😂
This NSW TEAM will be hard to beat in the next 3 years, now they've settled in their positions.
some people are calling for Cleary to replace Luai, would you replace Luai with Cleary?
OTHER THAN THAT THE ENTERTAINMENT FROM BOTH TEAMS WAS INCREDIBLE.
RUGBY UNION HAS NOTHING OVER LEAGUE..
Luai has proved that he is a handful with the ability to play structured and unstructured play in a way that threatens the opposition. I don't like his swagger but their are parts to his personality that are genuine. I am a Qld'er so that is a compliment. At the moment it is Moses before Cleary because he has the best long kicking game. next year Luai will be playing halfback so there might be three to chose from. Queensland desperately need a strong centre to match Mitchell or Best. They also need one or two big forwards to comeback in order to strengthen the middle. Only when they plug that gap will the fast players come into their own. You have to earn the right by what you do in the middle. Queensland must generate a better kicking game. One good kick and chase changes the game. Thurston did it. ( If Australia can ever get a Union side as good as the All Blacks then Union can be as good as League)
Last time NSW talked it up about a blue dynasty it lasted one season. Next year with flegs and Tino back watch out blues
@@jeffbain6817 LMAO, YOU ALSO NEED TO CHANGE YOUR BACKLINE, ALL THEY DO IS RUN SIDEWAYS HOPING FOR WALSH TO DO SOMETHING, HAMMER & COBBO ARE LONG RANGE RUNNERS IN SPACE, NSW HAVE SHUT THAT BRIDGE DOWN LOL, YOUR WINGERS ARE NOT HARD RUNNING LIKE TO'O, WALSH IS NOT MADE FOR ORIGIN, EVERYTIME HE FALLS DOWN HE CRY LOL
Rugby Union has nothing over League.....in Australia
@@kagolekuisi Union has far too many stoppages for drinks and their TMO is a real pain. We have had periods where our Wallaby team was worth watching, really great games. Not so currently. I played both games in. my teens, with the preference for League. A friend introduced me to the tactical subtleties of Union so that I could see it with greater appreciation.
Why are analysts so surprised about Moses ? He has literally been playing like this consistently for 3 years or so
Good on you King Wally. Great player who I hated and your professionalism in your commentary is next level. Almost on a par with Gus. Excellent.
59:04 I’d slot Watson into centre before moving an edge back rower there.
If all 3 are fit and playing well, I'd expect Madge to pick Cleary 7, Moses 6 and Luai 14. Cleary's defence, kicking game (esp. short), and organisation are made to fit Madge's style. Moses is a must for his long kicking game alone, and Luai provides cover for playmakers, backline, hooker and lock.
Wally is gracious because he still owns the blues
Was happy c barnett out there. Thought was great. Cheers
Why have kafusi? talking about Fifita over ponga. Ponga link with Walsh at interchange yes. Should of got rid of Kafusi or cape well for Fifita
Fantastic chat, well done boys
King Wally is a genuine bloke.
QLD was missing two of their best front rowers, and that deficiency may be fixed next year. NSW will have the biggest problem next year when they have to chose between Moses and Cleary for their number 7.
Cleary or Moses doesn’t matter, it’s a win win situation
@@markbowman2890 stick to a winning team. Cleary has not won a series since 21. QLD have the problem of oldies not performing, hunt, cherry, Munster 7 and dearden 6, Mahoney 14.
@@michaelslavin1601 You are misunderstanding the quality of Moses' kicking game. He won the yardage game and he defused the resets from goal line dropouts. Small moments that were game changers. Part of his natural game.
@@markbowman2890 not at all, they both have great long and short kicking games. Cleary probably shaves him in game management under pressure. That’s why it doesn’t matter who they play in 2025 at halfback between Moses and Cleary
@@michaelslavin1601 We need to do this scientifically. I believe that the hang time for a Moses kick is longer than any one else other than Burton. The amount of height and length allows the chasers to get downfield further. The stats seem to back this up. Look at where Qld started most of their sets. Cleary is long and accurate, but he does not get as much air as the other two. Both of the tries on Wednesday came from unbroken play. Qld had an answer for the structured plays. Moses was the best player in game 2 and he was instrumental in closing the gate in game 3. he is exceptional, and I am a Q'lander who does not follow Parramatta.
Great discussion, gentlemen!
I am Blues, I thing for Queensland, their No.6 Tom was the beat on the field
How does Gurds look older than Walley…..😂
Actually boys, the left side edge was vulnerable at stages. As was proved by the two times Best got through the line. Obviously dropping the ball both times. Unfortunately, the boys didn’t go back down that side enough. In saying that such a great show of patience and control from all the boys. Wonderful game guys. Thank you for allowing us NSW brethren to finally walk with our heads held high. 👕Blue Pride restored 👕 😁
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What do you mean for the way he acts ?? It’s called competitive, you know passion 🙄 Listen Jarome has shown what it is to be an origin player representing your state. You want rivalry well he has ignited and revived the origin spirit since he debut give the man some credit.
Romey is so polite, he even took time to wave goodbye to the toad supporters who were leaving early.
@@SlaintheMhath True QLD Spirit the whole game they would have have given him shit 💩 which hey game on and when he does something grubby like waving good bye that’s just disrespectful. Can’t even stay behind to support your QLD team bunch of fairies🤣🤫
I think Billy had to make the choice to cut 1 of these 3
Walsh ponga or dearden
Harry grant start keep hunt as utility player gives you 3 forward rotation have fifita off the bench
That means you cut Walsh play ponga
Cut ponga play Walsh
Cut dearden play ponga 6 and Walsh 1
Knowing you have hunt as utility
This is a more standard bench
But we are Queensland we don’t cut people
Look there are more and more quality qld players you can’t play them all
I know a lot of people who think like me. That origin ruins the comp for two months. Why not compromise and play at the end of the year?
Yep ,one game .winner takes all. Million dollar prize
I can see Hunt retiring from rep football and Walsh playing a “Craig Wing” role. The Hammer or most likely Ponga to fullback. DCE may go around again, Munster will be back at 5/8. Still a pretty fair backline.
Yer billys got some work ons. But queensland always give everything. But maybe bit more go foward could help. Great game thanx
This game felt like the first 60 mins was the softening up period.
To be competitive come 2025 soo, maroons need a new # 7, 2,3,4,5,6,8,10, 11 & 12...just a suggestion....
Im still unconvinced on Walsh, he doesn’t seem to work in around the ruck much and plays that run out behind the back line but runs sideways too much. Would like to see stats him vs Edwards, he is not a worker.Kick game is too short , lacking go forward especially wingers and centres from kick return. Guys in the middle dug deep but cant match blues. Hamma is a freak natural runner but was in effective under the pump. Deardon stood up impressive. Cant rely on rub of the green need to physically dominate first then go to players. If you cant dominate or equal in the centre , play makers nullified .
Walsh is 21. Edwards is 28. Edwards is at the prime of his career having played for nearly a decade, Walsh is still barely more than a rookie. Comparing the two is deeply unfair to Walsh.
Moses or cleary shit its a year away. C then both great
Moses will be the NSW 7 in the future unless injured. Cleary has lost too many deciders to be considered in front of Moses.
DCEs kicking game was terrible. The dropouts aside - he failed two 4020 attempts, one which was on the third tackle as Girds mentioned around 28:20 and none of the kicks on the fifth ever gave the QLD defence a good building block.
NSW did a great job of being grubs. They got under DCEs skin, they put pressure on Walsh with the late hits. It put them off. But QLD didnt fix that. You cant just cry about it. Cop the sin bin in game 2 and smack someone and end it - or - do the same thing back.
How did blues get under DCL skin when he instigated the fight. While Walsh boot hits a blues player in the head. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Qld just don’t get Origin 😂.
Wally Lewis best saying when he was at Wakefield playing against Whitehaven away a big Whitehaven prop lays ine on wally and he says fucking nothing different about him and us and wally replied about £900 quid mate haha
Moses can kick the ball 10-15M more than Cleary. That makes a difference in Origin. Madge won’t drop Moses. He will always be Madge’s first choice.
Unless he gets injured. It's good that NSW got the option of either Moses or Cleary.
You talk about Nate Myles gobbing off at big Joe after he put Walsh out of the first game as something terrible
but dismiss the physical involvement of a non playing member for NSW ??
Hypocrisy .
Difference between antagonizing a player uncalled for and trying to separate players when there's 10 QLDers on 2 NSW players. Not hypocritical at all, one is actually ACTIVELY seeking confrontation, while the other is trying to prevent further physical violence from getting out of hand.
QLDers will always try to say they're hard done by ffs lol
Yep 10 vs 2. Qld cowards
why Girds looking like he 100 years old lol
Ryan Girdler said Gagai is a great defender. Righto champ. Gagai's crap defence has been a meme for years now.
LMFAO i was glad when Billy picked him.
Dad’s army got found out when it was 13 players in game two and three.
Gagai is past his prime, just a club player now. Trouble is that there are no big powerful centres in Queensland right now. If I was David Fifita i would be learning how to play centre.
Cleary has been Gagais daddy 😂
NSW sucked the energy out of QLD - even the hammer had nothing left in the last 10 mins when space opened up - also Walsh was carrying an injury and had no pace to affect the game. I fear McGuire will have quite a negative impact on RL in the long run where QLD will have to meet grunt with grunt.
Why is it a negative impact. Grunt and hard hits is what origin is all about
Walsh was limpin abit wasent fst as seen.
Gone and Dusted back to club land football till another 12 months awaits
Ryan girdler in grey hair 😢🥺
Well its still there though😂
All my hair is grey and Girds is at least ten years older then me.
Girdler has such positive perspectives….not.
Qlders lack passion for the jersey
next year my friend. you will get your passion.
So qld were bloody awful buf still nearly got away with it against all odds a lopsided penalty count and 6 again against.,add cherry Evans poor kicking game and qld did something right..
I don't know if they were awful. It was a very defensive game. NSW didn't create many try scoring opportunities either but got them when they needed to.
9-6 penalty count isn’t lopsided. Particularly when one was putting a nsw player in a dangerous position and Walsh kicking the head
Wambulance alert
I wonder have King Wally and Mark Geyer reconcile after that punches thrown at one of those Origin?
Yes. I saw footage of them hanging each other on channel 9.
Bluuuueeeessssss! aaahhhhh!