I like how you are not some rich guy with every special tool there is and lifts . You are a regular guy with drive and will to do and to teach . We appreciate you brotha.
I enjoyed the drive shaft resizing, pretty neat....I've rebuilt two 700R4's....when you do yours...get the 9 pack 3-4 clutch pack...versus 6 pack....it'll last longer.
The torque converter lock up is more complicated than tci wiring provides. The original has a vacuum delay valve that allows for passing cars without lock up disconnecting. It does provide also for the converter unlocking while going up a hill. That little valve can’t be bought anymore so the whole thing is a head ache. On top of that. The positive to the lock up valve gets straight power. The negative has a connection that uses the pressure switch to lock and unlock the converter. There are 2 different style switches. He’s using 1 of them. It’s also good to have a switch in the positive to turn the converter off when needed. The whole power needs to be run through the brake light switch So while it’s complicated……it can be done However….. This set up has braking wiring. When you hit the brakes. The car is still in lock up. It will stall out. You need a cruise control brake switch to set up where the converter UNLOCKS…..WHEN HIT THE BRAKES. it’s a lot of wiring . This is how the factory is set up. This is a good video for this project but he’s light on the wiring information. It’s another video in itself What I did…..was keep my original transmission cooler lines and it all bolted right in. I had a drive shaft made as mine was out of balance from age and use. They say you can use shift point according to speed. I have done this and it doesn’t really work well. Another problem is the governor of the transmission. You can get the tv cable perfect and the shift points are weird. You have to re do the governor springs to get that fixed. There are videos on that as well I also used the shift works brake light set up and bought their adjustable cable. A very nice price and worth the higher cost. It made a huge difference I also had to notch a decent space out of my crossmember for the shifter cable to have a relaxed place to sit…..so it wasn’t bound up due to the crossmember being in the way My h pipe on the exhaust was very much in the way. It was set up to take out a turbo 350. With the 700r4 bing longer. It made putting in the trans a lot harder. The torque converter lock up was not an easy job to get right. The tv cable controls ALL THE PRESSURE. If it’s not right. It starves the transmission of fluid . IT IS BEST TO SET THIS UP…….with the pan off the car. There are videos on how to do this. I would not set it up with the pan on the car at this point.
Damn dude 🤣 when you first said you were going to shorten the drive shaft yourself I had my doubts but I was very impressed on how you tackled that project and got it to work. Def learned something if I ever have to do that myself. 🍻
Had very good luck with 700r4 with tci converter. I think it was having trans cooler and using a flex fan so it always got cooled. Second was a deep quart aluminum transmission pan to also keep things cool. Had 4th gear lockup on a toggle so i could turn off if needed. Most of time it was on.
Not knocking TCI, I run one of their lockup 10" converters in my 700R4 69 Camaro. I used this lockup kit, there are 3 different instructions that tell you 3 different things when it comes to which vacuum to run. Anyway along with that and some other things it helped me burn up my TCC. I rebuilt converter, rebuilt trans. Do yourself a favor and just use the Bowler lockup it is freaking awesome and simpler.
@@ForrestWhite-dx5ht awesome. Just an update. I never got the tcc lockup to work right. I also never really bothered to put much effort into it. Im working on this car now after it's second blown engine so if your looking for an update I'll have one soon. thanks for watching
@@JovaniDanteGriego I'm still watching the video! Haha did the 700r4 make a big difference compared to the 350? I have the th350 in a 57 bel air and it's maxing out at like 55mph! Shifting in all 3 gears. I was recommended to a 700r4 which is being rebuilt now! Gonna try the swap myself so your video has made it a good bit easier!
@@ForrestWhite-dx5ht yea the 700 is a nice upgrade. I had 3:43 gears and could comfortably do 80 to 90 on the highway. My th350 never worked so I don't have a comparison unfortunately
You need the edlebrock geometry bracket for the carburetor arm……having the cable adjusted right makes everything feel ok & normal shifting but slowly & eventually you will burn that tranny up because the geometry is off…..I found out the hard way years ago….didn’t burn my trans up because I knew enough to know that it wasn’t shifting crisp & firm like it did before rebuild & swap so I parked it & done my due diligence & found out about the geometry brackets you need for edlebrock & Holley carbs to give you the correct geometry travel that the q-jet has.
Just picked up 2 700r`s for my nova this will help my a lot ty. Overdrive is blown in 1 of them. Can i put a 8 inch converter or does it have to be stock?
It looks like at around 30:19 someone in the background was trying to entice you to wrap it up and come inside and adjust HER linkage!!!😃 A tactic that women of hot rodders have had to perfect over the years.
I want to do this swap to my 81 T/A! I been thinking about the braided trans lines like you have, could you tell me what npt adapters and fittings you used? My stock lines are exactly the same as your stock lines were btw
I wonder if the 700 r4 will fit on a Pontiac engine? I heard that an adapter plate is needed but the 200 4 r bolts right in to a Pontiac. Do you know? Thank you for a great video:
So I’m curious, I’m actually going backwards with my build and putting a th350 in my 700r4 car, are the linkage’s the same? I want to make sure I’m getting all the proper parts when I go to make this happen
Can you tell me what year range of 2wd 2dr s10 Blazer driveshaft should fit? Or the lenght of the driveshaft on your car after you cut it? I am finding conflicting information on what will work. Thanks
i had a 350 pro built after the third one they gave my money back every one i would do a hard pull and it would blow second gear they talked me into trying a 350 that they built for drag racing . then i was at a party and a guy said any 400 at the shop u can have for 200 buck so i said lets go . i picked out the best one i could find it was all painted looking good so i said that one. it worked with no problems but a leak on the cone so i took it back to the shop because the guy gave me full paper work on it. the this older guy looks at it and fly out from the car and said were did u get this trans i said from ur kid. he was pissed and said he was not mad at me but wanted to kill his kid. then he told me this was a fully built trans even has a stage 3 shift kit it will handle over 2,000 hp he told me he had 4000 in the trans it was sold for 6500 back in mid 90's and now he has to build another one from scratch but he did fix the trans leak did a real good job on the trans. i drove it hard for years then sold the car for twice as much i had in it.
I kept blowing second gear also, 3 transmissions later SMH Feel biggest issue was tv cable adjustment on 700r4 is very critical, if little off you'll burn up 2nd it seems
@@randyjubak2858 on my pro built 350 turbo 2nd went every time on a hard pull. i found u can get 02xx 400r turbo's from motor homes and trucks they are good to 800 hp stock but are cheap to build to 2000 hp trans .they come with the heavy duty 8 bolt pump, heavy clutches and stage one shift kit they will have 02xx welded on the bell housing then u know u have one.. plus i have heard nothing good about the 700 r they seem to burn up a lot at the track same with any metric trans like the 400 metric with over drive
Thats why you buld it..i built mine monster sunshell.z pack,corvette servo with upgraged spacer plate with acumulators blocked off..thing barkes the tires.
What did you do for the plug on driver side? Where/what does it wire up to? I’m about to do a tranny swap on my 79 Camaro as well (th350 to 700r4) and was wondering about that plug and what I need to do. Thanks
thats not a sloppy shifter dude. i think thats the factory ratchet shifter option. you hold the shifter to the right, and push it up a gear, and it wont let you shift past that gear, until you do it again.
www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-790300?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKCAjw0ZiiBhBKEiwA4PT9zwIavhyKmpqWYnDE3T2ek8bmzx8I8JD_P0oTV4vJsFzssIP9S55umBoCmZkQAvD_BwE Now you may still need to change u joints and the slip yoke
Yours has the auxiliary valve. Body is on the rear driver’s corner. It has a tube that runs up to the front of the transmission.. also, there will be a Rainbow shaped casting mark over the cooler lines . The 4l 60 is an up graded 700 r4. I like the 700 R4 myself.
You need to go to #TheOldMansGarage channel and see what transmission he's running in his 79 Malibu and tell me nobody wants a 700R4 anymore of course he built a huge higher horsepower engine and now he's changing over to a bigger transmission but forever he's been running 400R4 because the 4l60E sucks....
As long as you keep your alignment and don't leave 3 inch thick welds on there. The original balancing will be just fine. This car has driven 90 on the highway repeatedly and not even a shake
I like how you are not some rich guy with every special tool there is and lifts . You are a regular guy with drive and will to do and to teach . We appreciate you brotha.
Thanks man! I appreciate this comment
I enjoyed the drive shaft resizing, pretty neat....I've rebuilt two 700R4's....when you do yours...get the 9 pack 3-4 clutch pack...versus 6 pack....it'll last longer.
Thanks man! The 700r4 is finally starting to slip in 1st so I might build it up soon
The torque converter lock up is more complicated than tci wiring provides.
The original has a vacuum delay valve that allows for passing cars without lock up disconnecting. It does provide also for the converter unlocking while going up a hill. That little valve can’t be bought anymore so the whole thing is a head ache.
On top of that. The positive to the lock up valve gets straight power.
The negative has a connection that uses the pressure switch to lock and unlock the converter. There are 2 different style switches. He’s using 1 of them.
It’s also good to have a switch in the positive to turn the converter off when needed. The whole power needs to be run through the brake light switch
So while it’s complicated……it can be done
However…..
This set up has braking wiring. When you hit the brakes. The car is still in lock up. It will stall out. You need a cruise control brake switch to set up where the converter UNLOCKS…..WHEN HIT THE BRAKES. it’s a lot of wiring .
This is how the factory is set up.
This is a good video for this project but he’s light on the wiring information. It’s another video in itself
What I did…..was keep my original transmission cooler lines and it all bolted right in.
I had a drive shaft made as mine was out of balance from age and use. They say you can use shift point according to speed. I have done this and it doesn’t really work well.
Another problem is the governor of the transmission. You can get the tv cable perfect and the shift points are weird. You have to re do the governor springs to get that fixed. There are videos on that as well
I also used the shift works brake light set up and bought their adjustable cable. A very nice price and worth the higher cost. It made a huge difference
I also had to notch a decent space out of my crossmember for the shifter cable to have a relaxed place to sit…..so it wasn’t bound up due to the crossmember being in the way
My h pipe on the exhaust was very much in the way. It was set up to take out a turbo 350. With the 700r4 bing longer. It made putting in the trans a lot harder.
The torque converter lock up was not an easy job to get right.
The tv cable controls ALL THE PRESSURE. If it’s not right. It starves the transmission of fluid .
IT IS BEST TO SET THIS UP…….with the pan off the car. There are videos on how to do this.
I would not set it up with the pan on the car at this point.
Hey so im kind of lost here. Im about to do the same exact thing as the video. But what should i do or what should i not do?
Thanks for this man, genuine swap with a genuine guy with just parts some people will probably actually own. Might have to swap up my TH350.
Thanks for the comment man!
I am. I put a 700r4 in my 95 chevy k1500. Along with a new motor with a cam,high rise,edelbrock avs2, and a msd hei. Love the old stuff!!
Damn dude 🤣 when you first said you were going to shorten the drive shaft yourself I had my doubts but I was very impressed on how you tackled that project and got it to work. Def learned something if I ever have to do that myself. 🍻
It not as bad as it sounds! I was scared at first too lol
Not the smoothest video but far from the worst and very good content. Thank you!
Wow thanks for that comment
Had very good luck with 700r4 with tci converter. I think it was having trans cooler and using a flex fan so it always got cooled. Second was a deep quart aluminum transmission pan to also keep things cool. Had 4th gear lockup on a toggle so i could turn off if needed. Most of time it was on.
Where did you get your tci converter
Not knocking TCI, I run one of their lockup 10" converters in my 700R4 69 Camaro. I used this lockup kit, there are 3 different instructions that tell you 3 different things when it comes to which vacuum to run. Anyway along with that and some other things it helped me burn up my TCC. I rebuilt converter, rebuilt trans. Do yourself a favor and just use the Bowler lockup it is freaking awesome and simpler.
Thank you for this video! I have to do the same exact thing!
@@ForrestWhite-dx5ht awesome. Just an update. I never got the tcc lockup to work right. I also never really bothered to put much effort into it. Im working on this car now after it's second blown engine so if your looking for an update I'll have one soon. thanks for watching
@@JovaniDanteGriego I'm still watching the video! Haha did the 700r4 make a big difference compared to the 350? I have the th350 in a 57 bel air and it's maxing out at like 55mph! Shifting in all 3 gears. I was recommended to a 700r4 which is being rebuilt now! Gonna try the swap myself so your video has made it a good bit easier!
@@ForrestWhite-dx5ht yea the 700 is a nice upgrade. I had 3:43 gears and could comfortably do 80 to 90 on the highway. My th350 never worked so I don't have a comparison unfortunately
You need the edlebrock geometry bracket for the carburetor arm……having the cable adjusted right makes everything feel ok & normal shifting but slowly & eventually you will burn that tranny up because the geometry is off…..I found out the hard way years ago….didn’t burn my trans up because I knew enough to know that it wasn’t shifting crisp & firm like it did before rebuild & swap so I parked it & done my due diligence & found out about the geometry brackets you need for edlebrock & Holley carbs to give you the correct geometry travel that the q-jet has.
Good eye. I did end up corecting the geometry a bit with some diy.
Just picked up 2 700r`s for my nova this will help my a lot ty. Overdrive is blown in 1 of them. Can i put a 8 inch converter or does it have to be stock?
Cool dude, hopefully mine will be like that and not hard.
It'll be fine!
Yes that TV cable has an adjustment on it
It looks like at around 30:19 someone in the background was trying to entice you to wrap it up and come inside and adjust HER linkage!!!😃 A tactic that women of hot rodders have had to perfect over the years.
Beautiful car👍
Thanks!
I want to do this swap to my 81 T/A! I been thinking about the braided trans lines like you have, could you tell me what npt adapters and fittings you used? My stock lines are exactly the same as your stock lines were btw
Look up 4l60e an6 adapter that will get you the right fittings
If I'm not mistaken the 200-4r is the same length as the th350. Might be a different yoke because its metric like the 700r4.
Correct
I wonder if the 700 r4 will fit on a Pontiac engine? I heard that an adapter plate is needed but the 200 4 r bolts right in to a Pontiac. Do you know? Thank you for a great video:
BOP (Buick, olds Pontiac) all use a different bell housing then Chevy
So I’m curious, I’m actually going backwards with my build and putting a th350 in my 700r4 car, are the linkage’s the same? I want to make sure I’m getting all the proper parts when I go to make this happen
Yes it's cable operated
So what about external wiring for the 700r4?
Right were the cable goes in the bracket their is an adjustment just push the button in on the cable right were it hooks to the bracket
Can you tell me what year range of 2wd 2dr s10 Blazer driveshaft should fit? Or the lenght of the driveshaft on your car after you cut it? I am finding conflicting information on what will work. Thanks
I'll try to get that info for you
@@JovaniDanteGriego great, thank you!
Your gonna hate that lock up
i had a 350 pro built after the third one they gave my money back every one i would do a hard pull and it would blow second gear they talked me into trying a 350 that they built for drag racing . then i was at a party and a guy said any 400 at the shop u can have for 200 buck so i said lets go . i picked out the best one i could find it was all painted looking good so i said that one. it worked with no problems but a leak on the cone so i took it back to the shop because the guy gave me full paper work on it. the this older guy looks at it and fly out from the car and said were did u get this trans i said from ur kid. he was pissed and said he was not mad at me but wanted to kill his kid. then he told me this was a fully built trans even has a stage 3 shift kit it will handle over 2,000 hp he told me he had 4000 in the trans it was sold for 6500 back in mid 90's and now he has to build another one from scratch but he did fix the trans leak did a real good job on the trans. i drove it hard for years then sold the car for twice as much i had in it.
I kept blowing second gear also, 3 transmissions later SMH Feel biggest issue was tv cable adjustment on 700r4 is very critical, if little off you'll burn up 2nd it seems
@@randyjubak2858 on my pro built 350 turbo 2nd went every time on a hard pull. i found u can get 02xx 400r turbo's from motor homes and trucks they are good to 800 hp stock but are cheap to build to 2000 hp trans .they come with the heavy duty 8 bolt pump, heavy clutches and stage one shift kit they will have 02xx welded on the bell housing then u know u have one.. plus i have heard nothing good about the 700 r they seem to burn up a lot at the track same with any metric trans like the 400 metric with over drive
I HAD A 84 Z28 CAMERO WITH THIS TRANNY. AND I DROVE IT HARD ALL THE TIME AND BURT 2 OF THESE 700R UP AS STOCK THEY CANNOT TAKE THE PUNISHEMNT.
Thats why you buld it..i built mine monster sunshell.z pack,corvette servo with upgraged spacer plate with acumulators blocked off..thing barkes the tires.
Corvett servo
That trans is out of an 89 firebird/trans am. Camaros switched over to VSS in 90
You are correct
Hey im about to do this to an 80 Camaro. Do you still have the links where you got the stuff?
I don't think I do, I think I got most things in summit. I don't recommend the OD switch harness I bought though. Id try to see what else there is.
Hey where you out of I need somebody to finish up my c10 ls swap wiring I’m in socal
All you need is a bigger servo and you’ll be good to go
I've got a Corvette servo and it handles the abuse
Where did you buy the wiring kit for the trans?
Summit. But I would look for other options
What did you do for the plug on driver side? Where/what does it wire up to? I’m about to do a tranny swap on my 79 Camaro as well (th350 to 700r4) and was wondering about that plug and what I need to do. Thanks
Don’t have to plug it up I have a 1980 camaro with 700r drives good
I don't think that's what he said. He said 'i have a 1980 Camaro with a 700r4' (meaning he probably swapped it in)
thats not a sloppy shifter dude. i think thats the factory ratchet shifter option. you hold the shifter to the right, and push it up a gear, and it wont let you shift past that gear, until you do it again.
Nah it was definitely just sloppy as shit lol
@@JovaniDanteGriego look up the 2nd gen f body factory slap stick shifter
How would you put a turbo 400 with a 5.7 LS
@@draddog2259 same way, they all bolt up the same. You might need a different flex plate with the proper spacing and torque converter pattern
I'm looking for a 700r chevy trans....
question a 1981 gmc 350 gearbox could fit a 1995 450 engine??
What's a 450?
OH YEAH THIS TRANY SHIFTS HARD ENOUGH TO BARK.THE TIRES STOCK IT DONT NEED A SHIFT KIT.
Can you drop the link for the bracket that lets you go all the way to low gear ?
www.jegs.com/i/Supertrapp/845/SC2262/10002/-1?gclid=CjwKCAjw0N6hBhAUEiwAXab-TXUsjWQaA7BIsGregjUb_zBisgkHHJmX7NsBzFgtornNVHUSM3NhNRoCpT8QAvD_BwE
Thanks for the help do you think this would work for my 78 Malibu ?
No idea. You'd have to find out
I'm hope you didn't put the old transmission filter back in🙄 Dude you had it down that far you might as well put a new one in.......
did it drop your rpm ?
I never had the car before the transmission but I imagine a 4th gear would definitely drop the rpm down
@@JovaniDanteGriego did it drop rpm
Say guy? Can u send me the link to the (drop - in) driveshafe
www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-790300?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKCAjw0ZiiBhBKEiwA4PT9zwIavhyKmpqWYnDE3T2ek8bmzx8I8JD_P0oTV4vJsFzssIP9S55umBoCmZkQAvD_BwE
Now you may still need to change u joints and the slip yoke
700 R4 was only through 1986 year model 87 to 93 or 4L 60 from 93 you have the 4L60 E.
Isn't a 4l60 just a renamed 700r4?
It has an auxiliary valve body, the TCC is controlled by the computer.
@@alchampion340 oh ok! Good to know. So from what you saw in the video is mine a 4l60 or 700r4
Yours has the auxiliary valve. Body is on the rear driver’s corner. It has a tube that runs up to the front of the transmission.. also, there will be a Rainbow shaped casting mark over the cooler lines . The 4l 60 is an up graded 700 r4. I like the 700 R4 myself.
@@alchampion340 thanks for the info man!
You need to go to #TheOldMansGarage channel and see what transmission he's running in his 79 Malibu and tell me nobody wants a 700R4 anymore of course he built a huge higher horsepower engine and now he's changing over to a bigger transmission but forever he's been running 400R4 because the 4l60E sucks....
I don't disagree, I'm just saying that it's not a hot commodity anymore. The 4l80e is what the big power auto guys want. Or manual transmission
You forget balancing that shaft
As long as you keep your alignment and don't leave 3 inch thick welds on there. The original balancing will be just fine. This car has driven 90 on the highway repeatedly and not even a shake