@@G-Rated PREACH!!! Jap and euro cars are so unrealisticly priced i'm done. Now TFL sin't entirely biased but more biased towards murica than anything else.
My family bought a Tahoe in 2002 it's never been in the shop. 190,000 Miles and starts every time still almost 60 psi oil pressure. I have owned several other cars and none have outlived this Tahoe.
Same for my family but with a 2002 Cadillac Escalade. Unfortunately, at 197k miles transmission went out at the beginning of 2024. Engine still fired right up and paint looked amazing
I’m a railroader. Our van contractor that hauls is around has some Suburbans in its fleet. They are so comfortable and the drivers like them too. We are tough on vehicles, throwing our bags 💼 in and out, our work boots 🥾 and not to mention we have many BIG dudes in our industry. These vehicles hold up even with different people driving with their different driving habits. I love the comfortability of these new Suburbans. I wish that I had one.
Toyota fanboy here. Shame they couldn't figure this out with the Sequoia. Chevy did it right with their 3rd row SUVs and the 1/2 ton baby duramax trucks.
@@killerb5726the only thing the Sequoia has going for it is a solid rear axle and best in class towing capacity. But their prices and the engine fiasco really turned me off. I’m a die hard Toyota guy but I’m looking at Super Duty Tremors for family vacations and towing instead.
Toyota Sequoia third row is a joke in the current generation. Toyota used to be amazing quality and well thought out. Now they’ve gotten very frugal and their quality is no longer best in class. The latest engine situation is an absolute disaster.
@@brucemoose2You do know that Toyota aren’t only a producer of pickup trucks right? Most of their product lineup is unibody cars & crossovers that still has better built quality over the competition. It’s just that the recent generation of trucks based models is where they dipped in terms of quality.
@@killerb5726me too… that sequoia’s space management behind the third row is a failure. Those plastic stacking shelves system?…🫤toyota will lose more customers with its direction in powertrains. Lots of them in dealers lots.eg.tundras,tacomas, sequoia’s. Landcruisers/Lexus. Turbos 6’s and turbo 4 bangers?🥴
This just proves how people are just happy in their basic chevys. If they ever modify to a new engine, I just hope it goes from a 5.3 to a 5.5 lol . Let’s get some power on this heavy thing
I would be interested in upgrading to the 6.2 if it wasn’t 92 octane rated. It’s a work truck, i upgraded for better mpg. I do like the LT 5.3 vvt. Impressive torque
I think Chevy has refreshed the Suburban and Tahoe quite nicely for this model year. So glad that the diesel is finally offered on the Z71 model and the LED lower brake lights, turn signals, and reverse lights are finally on the Suburban and Tahoe. That has been a minor nitpick of mine since this generation came out, so it’s good that’s been addressed. The new instrument panel genuinely looks excellent. The current model already had a well executed cabin, but this refresh definitely made this cabin even nicer than before. The real open pore wood on the High Country is also a neat touch. Y’all should take the new Suburban High Country up the Ike Gauntlet again with the new diesel when y’all get the chance to do so.
@@Jason_Smith609 mine is the 5.3. At around 300,000 miles I bought a Range AFM disabler for it just for peace of mind but at that mileage I think I must have been lucky and got one without the dreaded lifter issue anyway.
Because its a 2003. No active fuel management. Any 5.3 with active fuel management will have issues between 75k and 150k miles. Transmission will also fail. The failure rate on 6.2's is something like 1%-total engine failure stemming from bad crank or rod bearings.
I have a 2022 and I call it the “peace truck” because my family find their zen when on the road. Super smooth on the road the only complaint is that all my friends make me drive when we are together
Nice update on the latest. I owned a 2001 Suburban for 15 years and 225k. My daughter and her husband squeezed out another 90k over the next five years. Great vehicle and many memories. Good to see the latest. I now have a '22 Silverado LTZ with the workaday 5.3. Power is "adequate.' I tow a 7,000 lb travel trailer very nicely with it. Maybe a Duramax next time? We will see.
My wife and I have owned 5 of these over the years. Every time we try something different, we come back. This is the best Gm vehicle. I literally fit 5 people and a kitchen sink with the cabinetry in one once during a remodel.
I actually like this. The power closing and opening rear trunk is just a gimmick, mostly not needed. I actually like the 9 seats configuration too for “in a pinch” kind of situations. This is so much more utilitarian which something I thought cars should be. Much better than expedition. Chevy did a beautiful job with this.
I didn't know 9-seaters were still available. That is really cool. For a base model, that Suburban is actually pretty darn good. Forewent a lot of the extra junk you don't need, while still including a lot of actually useful features. Too bad it's still $10-15K too expensive.
If the *base* model Suburban is $15,000 “too expensive” then YOU’RE simply shopping outside of your means and that’s not the manufacturer’s fault nor their problem and despite all the selective nagging and complaining you see on this channel, TFL does not care how much they charge you either. You can almost consider these guys paid actors, respectfully. I’ll be glad when this “nagging and complaining about products that we can’t afford” movement is gone. It’s so exhausting to read over and over.
@@G-Rated Boy, you're quite a pissy little brat today, aren't you? Nowhere did I say I was shopping at all; but I don't have to be hungry for a burger to know that a $30 burger is too much. And the people who ARE shopping for these SUVs are often people with large families, so their finances are tighter, and that much money for a base model IS too much. Dunno what your problem with TFL in general is, but if you scorn them so much, why are you here on their videos, poisoning the comments section? And the complaining about overpriced products is going to continue for as long as they remain overpriced (which itself will unfortunately continue as long as people continue to shell out for said overpriced products).
I drive a 2021 Silverado work truck/base and absolutely love the front bench seat. I am used to my 2001 Silverado with a front bench seat and leg room it provides. I despise oversized center consoles. I had been looking at new Suburbans online and its impossible to find bench seats in one available at any dealership near me. I am coming around on a small center screen in the vehicles, but not so much on the dash right in front of the driver. I still prefer traditional gauge clusters. I would get one of these based Suburbans before any other one because they do what the others can. But for $63k, its out of my range.
The biggest problem with vehicles these days is that they are engineered for planned obsolescence with short warranty terms, expensive pricing, and subscription feature pricing. The consumer gets none of the value and the manufacturer gets all of the benefits. A 100k warranty should be standard on something that costs this much. With loan interest rates at what they are, I'm surprised people are still purchasing these vehicles.
I put a order in my 25 TAHOE Z71 , i hope that I will get it in the Spring of 2025. 😅 I forgot about the most important part about the Engine will be the 3.0L Duramax Diesel Engine. Thanks Andrea you talked me into it.!!!! 😊 My new garage should be done by then. !!!!!😅
It's a nice-looking truck inside and out. The front end and grill look real clean. Chevy's new digital dashboard make the entry level trucks appear up class. I was recently in California for almost a month and rented a Ford Expedition during this period. It had a 3.5 turbo engine. Gas mileage ranged from 12 to 17 MPG. While it was fast, comfortable and everyone I hauled around liked it, there were no compelling features that made my opinion favor it.
Real!!! I wish it had that f150 interior, same shifter and everything.The unnecessary extra screens is stupid. Just put a nice size screen just like the f150 has and don’t be overkill with it. Love how cleanly integrated the 1ft screen and shifter is. And should come with a 5.0 V8.
@@MJ-fj9yvyou might want to look at JD Power's manufacturer dependability study. Not just for 2023, check it out for multiple years prior. Chevy has been higher in that regard than Ford for quite some time.
As an owner of a yukon XL with the diesel. Its a fantastic engine and our fuel economy is beyond belief for a large vehicle (about 30 avg). About 80K miles so far. No issues.
We have a 2022 LS 9 seater with the 3.0 duramax max tow and 4WD. Great value, ours was 61k before tax. Same base trim truck 2 years later is at least 10k more, crazy! Also, no way you can tow anything with 9 people in it. The payload won’t allow it.
The question is, for those who would want a higher trim level, would they be able to option the bench? In my mind, that's an issue that the trucks already have. Other than the price, being high, the features are pretty good. Just add memory seats and pedals and it would be hard to beat in the features department.
People will complain they don't upgrade the powertrain while others complain if they do. The way of the world. The upgrades seem to hit the mark for those in the big SUV market who aren't interested in a second home instead. ;)
@@David_Journey You mean like Toyota’s compromises on pricing for their ancient & old hybrid tech that Americans pay markups for? Oh wait…again people only look for things to complain about on American products, mainly new product from *gm.* Nobody in the entire industry is offering this much for $66k yet you’re at the counter holding up the line demanding a discount. 🤡
I’m waiting on these to become available so I can order a High Country Tahoe with the 24” rims. IMO they look amazing and the inside upgrades are really nice too. All around my favorite SUV for 2025!!!
I have a 2024 Silverado with a standard bed .24 gallon gas tank. Chevy cut down the gas tanks on these models which I think is nuts!! Especially for the prices we are charged. Happy with it otherwise. I like the updates ,but the shifter stalk is weird. Great review as always
I like the redesign overall. The interior is nice and clean without going overboard. I don’t like that Chevy places their driveline controls on the left side. I wish everything doing with drive was on the right side like the shifter and 4WD controls and the trailer brake controller. Leave the light adjustments and random buttons you don’t need to see on the left side.
I’m a gm fan driving an Expedition because of the abysmal towing ratings since they went independent rear suspension. They are almost 2000 pounds short compared with most of the competitors. Less than my old 07 Escalade. My travel trailer is 6700 empty.
I'm a year into a used high spec 2019 Tahoe 6.2L. Been skeptical about the '21+ models, but the '25 updates are good. Don't pay $80k new. Buy used, get some warranty, and enjoy the cruising.
1:54 what on Earth happened to the tailllights. The 2024 has perfect tailllights with SEPARATE running, brake and AMBER turn signals. The 2025 tailllights are unacceptable with red turn signals. How are US manufacturers still incapable of consistently designing safe, effective and unambiguous tailllights with separate running, brake and amber turn signals? I'm completely baffled.
I’m confused about the diesel. It’s going around the Internet and RUclips that GM already killed the 3L DuraMax for SUVs and ending it for the 1500 pickup shortly.
I'll take the suburban as it is here. Hopefully 4x4 low range is optional. No moon roof - bravo! I've been driving my Yukon xl 25 years and maybe opened the sunroof 4 or 5 times and that was at least 15 years ago. I'm just curious as to how often you will actually see a base model available or even on a lot. Most dealerships opt for optioned out vehicles up here in the northeast.
I've got a '19 Tahoe LS custom, no 3rd seat, the base has everything, I still want to see a base with heated cloth seats, they do it in the Traverse, would be great to have in the full size, leather isn't for everyone....
It's nice to finally see the 2025 Tahoe and Suburban, and their GMC twins finally get the latest version of the 3.0L diesel the LZO instead of the older LM2.
@TheeAaron minor interior design changes as well as a few exterior tweeks. But the biggest change/switch is the outgoing LM2 for the LZO Diesel. Better hp and torque. The LZO has better internals like forged steel pistons and connecting rods and better cooling.
@TruckerMike089 if you dont mind me asking........what did they screw up? I've owned both the LM2 and the current LZO Diesel. Both have been great for me so far. No problems from either. So what did they screw up?
@LPM84. Oh no problem bud. The fact that they have a belt driven oil pump mounted in the back of the engine. In order to change out you must drop either the transmission or pull the engine.
They need to make an HD version that can tow around 11,000 pounds because 7,500 is very disappointing because I really want a 7+ person suv that can take my whole family and haul a large camper on road trips and I want the diesel for better fuel economy so I'm stuck trying to hunt down a good excursion to buy
I am still so happy I bought my wife a new Suburban in 2018. Fully Loaded LT model with every option available on an LT, out the door for $52k cash. We haul a family of 6, and I tow a 6,000 Lb. TT with it and couldn't be happier. These new unibody models are at least $20k more for a less durable truck.
The only negative, which is something the GM just doesn’t do, is the lack of the middle seat headrest on both rows. Adults will snap their necks in an accident
I’m going for the z71 suburban with the 3l duramax and the 28 gallon fuel tank! Either white or all black. I want all that range for trips! I’m not gunna lie tho after seeing that ls model I would be tempted to just get that with the duramax instead of you can option it that way
My current 2016 LS Suburban is plain but has towing features. Now that I Also have a loaded Sierra AT4. i don't know if I could live with an LS. I am hooked on the 6.2.
I drive an 11' Burb 4x4 with 143k.. great vehicle taking it from Texas to Colorado soon.. One big thing to me with the new Suburbans is the lack of a solid rear axle.. Its about ground clearance for me. The lower rear control arms sit way too low for any lightly off pavement.. Other than price I still like GM's flagship..
Same. We’re taking our ‘12 Z71 Burb with 209k mikes from TX to Kansas & back this week. We also need the ground clearance. We’ll continue to buy 800’s & 900’s.
@@rich6246 I agree with what you said about which ones you’ll purchase in the future. I just got back from my property and Colorado and I can tell you several of the mountain roads once you get off the pavement, there a bunch of rutted roads that the lower control arm on the new Tahoe and suburban will absolutely hit tearing them off in some cases.. also in the aftermarket category, I was able to increase the payload capacity by removing my half/ton springs and buying three-quarter ton springs, and another thing to notice is that the towing capacity didn’t go up with the new models even with more powerful motors so I’m not convinced at all that the new ones are for me and yall whom really use them..
Does the rear independent suspension still look like the lower control arms will catch on a marble? How can they put a Z71 badge on a mall crawler? Can you take any of these on any BLM roads in the mountains? These prices are so nuts. Nope.
So... If you want - and need - 9 seats, wouldn't a van be an easier to live with choice? At a similar size it's even more spacious, has a bigger boot and better modularity, plus - I can presume - it's more fuel efficient.
@@Tbar24 they have them here. Yet you still complain about their absence in a completely separate vehicle just for the sake of complaining? Such a typical tone around these parts whenever it’s a *gm.* It’s REALLY weird.
@@Tbar24 how doesn’t it make sense? The Tahoe and Traverse aren’t the same prices and one offers way more than the other so perhaps the argument was made that the more expensive product (Tahoe) keeping more physical controls as well as receiving the heavy technological upgrades were feasible and more important especially for customers with so many extra options over the Traverse. It makes plenty of sense to me.
I Grew up in a 04 Suburban. Great vehicle for road trips, very comfortable, not great on MPG. But if you look past that you can have yourself a pretty sleek looking vehicle. Now I joke with my mother saying we need another suburban!
I'm custom ordering a H.C this winter Feb/Mar. Can I order the High Country WITHOUT the Panasonic Sunroof? For me it's a deal breaker for the hail here in Colorado. Or do I have to go with the Premier for that Non option?
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I like how he starts laughing as he says it’s the most affordable version 😂
Because TFL are trolls to American brands only. They never talk about the prices of Japanese or German products, like RARELY ever.
@@G-Rated PREACH!!! Jap and euro cars are so unrealisticly priced i'm done. Now TFL sin't entirely biased but more biased towards murica than anything else.
@@G-Ratedthe peanut gallery has spoken
@@Big.W. right, and what do you drive?
Because he knows nobody is gonna want to dump that much money into a Chevy.
My family bought a Tahoe in 2002 it's never been in the shop. 190,000 Miles and starts every time still almost 60 psi oil pressure.
I have owned several other cars and none have outlived this Tahoe.
Super!
Same for my family but with a 2002 Cadillac Escalade. Unfortunately, at 197k miles transmission went out at the beginning of 2024. Engine still fired right up and paint looked amazing
Unfortunately these new ones are no where near as reliable as the old ones lol. They’ll crap out before 100k miles pretty much guaranteed those days.
I’m a railroader. Our van contractor that hauls is around has some Suburbans in its fleet. They are so comfortable and the drivers like them too. We are tough on vehicles, throwing our bags 💼 in and out, our work boots 🥾 and not to mention we have many BIG dudes in our industry. These vehicles hold up even with different people driving with their different driving habits. I love the comfortability of these new Suburbans. I wish that I had one.
Toyota fanboy here. Shame they couldn't figure this out with the Sequoia. Chevy did it right with their 3rd row SUVs and the 1/2 ton baby duramax trucks.
Not a Toyota Fanboy but I was rooting for the refreshed sequoia and was disappointed.
@@killerb5726the only thing the Sequoia has going for it is a solid rear axle and best in class towing capacity.
But their prices and the engine fiasco really turned me off.
I’m a die hard Toyota guy but I’m looking at Super Duty Tremors for family vacations and towing instead.
Toyota Sequoia third row is a joke in the current generation. Toyota used to be amazing quality and well thought out. Now they’ve gotten very frugal and their quality is no longer best in class. The latest engine situation is an absolute disaster.
@@brucemoose2You do know that Toyota aren’t only a producer of pickup trucks right? Most of their product lineup is unibody cars & crossovers that still has better built quality over the competition. It’s just that the recent generation of trucks based models is where they dipped in terms of quality.
@@killerb5726me too… that sequoia’s space management behind the third row is a failure. Those plastic stacking shelves system?…🫤toyota will lose more customers with its direction in powertrains. Lots of them in dealers lots.eg.tundras,tacomas, sequoia’s. Landcruisers/Lexus. Turbos 6’s and turbo 4 bangers?🥴
This just proves how people are just happy in their basic chevys. If they ever modify to a new engine, I just hope it goes from a 5.3 to a 5.5 lol . Let’s get some power on this heavy thing
I would be interested in upgrading to the 6.2 if it wasn’t 92 octane rated. It’s a work truck, i upgraded for better mpg. I do like the LT 5.3 vvt. Impressive torque
Going from a 6.2 to a 5.3 the only difference Ive noticed is it’s about 24$ cheaper to fill…shame they still don’t take E85
I think Chevy has refreshed the Suburban and Tahoe quite nicely for this model year. So glad that the diesel is finally offered on the Z71 model and the LED lower brake lights, turn signals, and reverse lights are finally on the Suburban and Tahoe. That has been a minor nitpick of mine since this generation came out, so it’s good that’s been addressed.
The new instrument panel genuinely looks excellent. The current model already had a well executed cabin, but this refresh definitely made this cabin even nicer than before. The real open pore wood on the High Country is also a neat touch.
Y’all should take the new Suburban High Country up the Ike Gauntlet again with the new diesel when y’all get the chance to do so.
Still rocking out my 07 tahoe. Got over 350k miles on this bad thing.
Same with my 07 Yukon except "only" 304,000 miles.
@@Xterraforce what motor is in yours? I have the 4.8L
@@Jason_Smith609 mine is the 5.3. At around 300,000 miles I bought a Range AFM disabler for it just for peace of mind but at that mileage I think I must have been lucky and got one without the dreaded lifter issue anyway.
Jason_smit... We have a 2011 suburban 2500 with a 250000 miles still running strong
Still rocking out my 2000 Yukon XL
I've got more than 350K rust holes all around what's left of the body.😂
215K on the LM7 and it runs like a top.
They need to bring back a 2500 or 3500 Suburban.
The fact that you get power front seats and 360 view camera on the base model suburban is crazy value . I might consider a ‘25 Tahoe LS
I have a 03 Tahoe LS that seats 9- it’s a beast with 300k miles and runs smooth with no problems
Because its a 2003. No active fuel management. Any 5.3 with active fuel management will have issues between 75k and 150k miles. Transmission will also fail. The failure rate on 6.2's is something like 1%-total engine failure stemming from bad crank or rod bearings.
I have a 2022 and I call it the “peace truck” because my family find their zen when on the road. Super smooth on the road the only complaint is that all my friends make me drive when we are together
Nice update on the latest. I owned a 2001 Suburban for 15 years and 225k. My daughter and her husband squeezed out another 90k over the next five years. Great vehicle and many memories. Good to see the latest. I now have a '22 Silverado LTZ with the workaday 5.3. Power is "adequate.' I tow a 7,000 lb travel trailer very nicely with it. Maybe a Duramax next time? We will see.
My wife and I have owned 5 of these over the years. Every time we try something different, we come back. This is the best Gm vehicle. I literally fit 5 people and a kitchen sink with the cabinetry in one once during a remodel.
I actually like this. The power closing and opening rear trunk is just a gimmick, mostly not needed. I actually like the 9 seats configuration too for “in a pinch” kind of situations. This is so much more utilitarian which something I thought cars should be. Much better than expedition. Chevy did a beautiful job with this.
I didn't know 9-seaters were still available. That is really cool. For a base model, that Suburban is actually pretty darn good. Forewent a lot of the extra junk you don't need, while still including a lot of actually useful features. Too bad it's still $10-15K too expensive.
If the *base* model Suburban is $15,000 “too expensive” then YOU’RE simply shopping outside of your means and that’s not the manufacturer’s fault nor their problem and despite all the selective nagging and complaining you see on this channel, TFL does not care how much they charge you either. You can almost consider these guys paid actors, respectfully.
I’ll be glad when this “nagging and complaining about products that we can’t afford” movement is gone. It’s so exhausting to read over and over.
@@G-Rated Boy, you're quite a pissy little brat today, aren't you? Nowhere did I say I was shopping at all; but I don't have to be hungry for a burger to know that a $30 burger is too much. And the people who ARE shopping for these SUVs are often people with large families, so their finances are tighter, and that much money for a base model IS too much. Dunno what your problem with TFL in general is, but if you scorn them so much, why are you here on their videos, poisoning the comments section? And the complaining about overpriced products is going to continue for as long as they remain overpriced (which itself will unfortunately continue as long as people continue to shell out for said overpriced products).
I think Chevy knocked it out of the park with this base trim. 👍👍
Love it. This will be a good replacement for my 9 seat Ford Excursion. Thank you Chevy for making this with a front bench seat.
I drive a 2021 Silverado work truck/base and absolutely love the front bench seat. I am used to my 2001 Silverado with a front bench seat and leg room it provides. I despise oversized center consoles. I had been looking at new Suburbans online and its impossible to find bench seats in one available at any dealership near me. I am coming around on a small center screen in the vehicles, but not so much on the dash right in front of the driver. I still prefer traditional gauge clusters. I would get one of these based Suburbans before any other one because they do what the others can. But for $63k, its out of my range.
The biggest problem with vehicles these days is that they are engineered for planned obsolescence with short warranty terms, expensive pricing, and subscription feature pricing. The consumer gets none of the value and the manufacturer gets all of the benefits. A 100k warranty should be standard on something that costs this much. With loan interest rates at what they are, I'm surprised people are still purchasing these vehicles.
I own a 2024 LZO in a Trail Boss. Very impressed by the power and MPG's.
1. Love the cloth
2. Love manual lift gate (less crap to break)
3. Front Bench seat!? Yes!!
I love the physical buttons.
I put a order in my 25 TAHOE Z71 , i hope that I will get it in the Spring of 2025. 😅 I forgot about the most important part about the Engine will be the 3.0L Duramax Diesel Engine. Thanks Andrea you talked me into it.!!!! 😊 My new garage should be done by then. !!!!!😅
Talking about the temperature in Texas in October- “fall” in Texas is a state of mind…
I love how these trucks drive on the freeway. Very comfortable and very easy to drive.
It's a nice-looking truck inside and out. The front end and grill look real clean. Chevy's new digital dashboard make the entry level trucks appear up class.
I was recently in California for almost a month and rented a Ford Expedition during this period. It had a 3.5 turbo engine. Gas mileage ranged from 12 to 17 MPG. While it was fast, comfortable and everyone I hauled around liked it, there were no compelling features that made my opinion favor it.
Lunch break while watching tfl = good time 🔥
Thanks so much for watching!
The interior kills the new Expedition!
Real!!! I wish it had that f150 interior, same shifter and everything.The unnecessary extra screens is stupid. Just put a nice size screen just like the f150 has and don’t be overkill with it. Love how cleanly integrated the 1ft screen and shifter is. And should come with a 5.0 V8.
Haha quit with the wishful thinking
Don’t worry, Chevy will be killing itself well under 50k miles 😂
In your dreams maybe 😂
@@MJ-fj9yvyou might want to look at JD Power's manufacturer dependability study. Not just for 2023, check it out for multiple years prior. Chevy has been higher in that regard than Ford for quite some time.
I have a 2016 Tahoe, runs like a Dream and I love it.
As an owner of a yukon XL with the diesel. Its a fantastic engine and our fuel economy is beyond belief for a large vehicle (about 30 avg). About 80K miles so far. No issues.
We have a 2022 LS 9 seater with the 3.0 duramax max tow and 4WD. Great value, ours was 61k before tax. Same base trim truck 2 years later is at least 10k more, crazy!
Also, no way you can tow anything with 9 people in it. The payload won’t allow it.
That red on that zl1 is 🔥
I like how they did make more features in the base grade! Worth the extra money!
With the diesel and towing capacity this beats the Land Cruiser.
GM is absolutely killing it with their interiors. The android based infotainment system is so nice
Yeah if you like all black, cheap plastic! 😂
I love the bench seat in the front! About time a American OEM did this
I like this more than the new Ford Expedition.
The question is, for those who would want a higher trim level, would they be able to option the bench? In my mind, that's an issue that the trucks already have. Other than the price, being high, the features are pretty good. Just add memory seats and pedals and it would be hard to beat in the features department.
People will complain they don't upgrade the powertrain while others complain if they do. The way of the world.
The upgrades seem to hit the mark for those in the big SUV market who aren't interested in a second home instead. ;)
You could compensate with lower price for ancient inefficient tech
@@David_Journey You mean like Toyota’s compromises on pricing for their ancient & old hybrid tech that Americans pay markups for? Oh wait…again people only look for things to complain about on American products, mainly new product from *gm.* Nobody in the entire industry is offering this much for $66k yet you’re at the counter holding up the line demanding a discount. 🤡
I’m waiting on these to become available so I can order a High Country Tahoe with the 24” rims. IMO they look amazing and the inside upgrades are really nice too. All around my favorite SUV for 2025!!!
I could fit 34 sheets of dry wall in mine when you remove the defunct rear seats . Plus all my tools for work .
I have a 2024 Silverado with a standard bed .24 gallon gas tank. Chevy cut down the gas tanks on these models which I think is nuts!! Especially for the prices we are charged. Happy with it otherwise. I like the updates ,but the shifter stalk is weird. Great review as always
My 2007 Tahoe has a front bench like that. Wished the center console didn't hit the knees
I wish you could get fog lights on lower trimmed models..
Andre really is the best at this.
I wish GM provides option to add power liftgates on the base trim!
I like the redesign overall. The interior is nice and clean without going overboard.
I don’t like that Chevy places their driveline controls on the left side. I wish everything doing with drive was on the right side like the shifter and 4WD controls and the trailer brake controller. Leave the light adjustments and random buttons you don’t need to see on the left side.
I’m a gm fan driving an Expedition because of the abysmal towing ratings since they went independent rear suspension. They are almost 2000 pounds short compared with most of the competitors. Less than my old 07 Escalade. My travel trailer is 6700 empty.
I like the Wagoneer for towing
Andre that diesel Z71 with 3.73s would be the bomb for towing sir!
My absolutely dream the Z71 in red. I hope we get one of these in Germany
I'm a year into a used high spec 2019 Tahoe 6.2L. Been skeptical about the '21+ models, but the '25 updates are good. Don't pay $80k new. Buy used, get some warranty, and enjoy the cruising.
Obviously the best looking - ext/int SUV. Not to mention, best selling. Chevy always!
1:54 what on Earth happened to the tailllights. The 2024 has perfect tailllights with SEPARATE running, brake and AMBER turn signals. The 2025 tailllights are unacceptable with red turn signals. How are US manufacturers still incapable of consistently designing safe, effective and unambiguous tailllights with separate running, brake and amber turn signals? I'm completely baffled.
I hate the auto industry bruh, it’s like they’ve purposely been cheaping out since 2019
Love it n love the pocket under the hood between the grill n radiator
I'd go basic level as long as I could option a heated steering wheel.
I’m confused about the diesel. It’s going around the Internet and RUclips that GM already killed the 3L DuraMax for SUVs and ending it for the 1500 pickup shortly.
Andre, would you consider this or an expedition for your next family road trip/boat hauler? Instead of a pickup?
True and tried 5.3L engine but can't solve lifter tick.
I appreciate that 6.2 liter V-8 engine
I'll take the suburban as it is here. Hopefully 4x4 low range is optional.
No moon roof - bravo!
I've been driving my Yukon xl 25 years and maybe opened the sunroof 4 or 5 times and that was at least 15 years ago.
I'm just curious as to how often you will actually see a base model available or even on a lot. Most dealerships opt for optioned out vehicles up here in the northeast.
I've got a '19 Tahoe LS custom, no 3rd seat, the base has everything, I still want to see a base with heated cloth seats, they do it in the Traverse, would be great to have in the full size, leather isn't for everyone....
The Suburban diesel base 9 passenger is my house home. I have been living in it for 6 years time for the new one😅😊
You literally live in it?
Yes I do 🎉
@@thomasbordi8726 where do you park to sleep at night? How do you shower? Stay safe!
Andre awesome review! Can you see this classic with an Airstream? Wonder if you can get 3.73 gears?
It’s a land yacht for families and I like it.
It's nice to finally see the 2025 Tahoe and Suburban, and their GMC twins finally get the latest version of the 3.0L diesel the LZO instead of the older LM2.
Is the 2025 different than the 2024?
I'd never buy that engine. GM proved that they could screw up an inline six diesel.
@TheeAaron minor interior design changes as well as a few exterior tweeks. But the biggest change/switch is the outgoing LM2 for the LZO Diesel. Better hp and torque. The LZO has better internals like forged steel pistons and connecting rods and better cooling.
@TruckerMike089 if you dont mind me asking........what did they screw up? I've owned both the LM2 and the current LZO Diesel. Both have been great for me so far. No problems from either. So what did they screw up?
@LPM84. Oh no problem bud. The fact that they have a belt driven oil pump mounted in the back of the engine. In order to change out you must drop either the transmission or pull the engine.
Andre was 6’3 in a previous episode, 6’2 forever before that, and now he’s almost 6’3.
I would go with the Expedition. 😀
I really like the style of the Z71 grill on the Tahoe. I hope the new Silverado Z71 gets the same or a similar one.
They need to make an HD version that can tow around 11,000 pounds because 7,500 is very disappointing because I really want a 7+ person suv that can take my whole family and haul a large camper on road trips and I want the diesel for better fuel economy so I'm stuck trying to hunt down a good excursion to buy
Agreed. Make a 2500 Burb with the 6.6 gas
I'm with you there man. Won't even consider a new suburban with the price and towing and payload numbers similar to a Ranger
9 passenger is the way I would have it. Would splurge on the LZ0 as well! 👍
If I had nothing but money it would be the Chevy Tahoe with the Diesel.
Our 2011 Chevy suburban 2500 looks like it has the same seats
I am still so happy I bought my wife a new Suburban in 2018. Fully Loaded LT model with every option available on an LT, out the door for $52k cash. We haul a family of 6, and I tow a 6,000 Lb. TT with it and couldn't be happier. These new unibody models are at least $20k more for a less durable truck.
This is still a body on frame vehicle. The only difference is the rear suspension is now independent.
Not unibody
Great work at always Andre and yes, they are very, very very nice trucks.
Tahoe,Suburban,Yukon and Escalade owns the large SUV world…nothing competes.
Love front bench seat for snuggles at the drive in
Super stoked that they are finally making a Duramax Z71 option
It’s cool!
The only negative, which is something the GM just doesn’t do, is the lack of the middle seat headrest on both rows. Adults will snap their necks in an accident
Thank you for answering my only question within the first minute bench seat Yes thank you
I like the interior even for a base model it has everything i need
Do all of these not have the autonstart stop? Do they not have the cylinder deactivation? Soooo glad mine dosent
Holy crap you guys were just a couple miles from me. Hope you liked Fort Worth.
I’m going for the z71 suburban with the 3l duramax and the 28 gallon fuel tank! Either white or all black. I want all that range for trips! I’m not gunna lie tho after seeing that ls model I would be tempted to just get that with the duramax instead of you can option it that way
That Suburban looks more menacing
Gonna have to address the lifters in the 5.3.
Just tune it. Easy peasy.
My current 2016 LS Suburban is plain but has towing features. Now that I Also have a loaded Sierra AT4. i don't know if I could live with an LS. I am hooked on the 6.2.
Did you try the Diesel variant (MPG)?
The 2025 expedition looks 10× better from the inside out then the taho
So glad to see a 9 seater!!
Base trim with a powered liftgate would be cool
60k and you get the base model.....
What times we live in.....😮
I drive an 11' Burb 4x4 with 143k.. great vehicle taking it from Texas to Colorado soon.. One big thing to me with the new Suburbans is the lack of a solid rear axle.. Its about ground clearance for me. The lower rear control arms sit way too low for any lightly off pavement.. Other than price I still like GM's flagship..
It looked good off-road seen it on TFL
Same. We’re taking our ‘12 Z71 Burb with 209k mikes from TX to Kansas & back this week.
We also need the ground clearance. We’ll continue to buy 800’s & 900’s.
@@rich6246 I agree with what you said about which ones you’ll purchase in the future. I just got back from my property and Colorado and I can tell you several of the mountain roads once you get off the pavement, there a bunch of rutted roads that the lower control arm on the new Tahoe and suburban will absolutely hit tearing them off in some cases.. also in the aftermarket category, I was able to increase the payload capacity by removing my half/ton springs and buying three-quarter ton springs, and another thing to notice is that the towing capacity didn’t go up with the new models even with more powerful motors so I’m not convinced at all that the new ones are for me and yall whom really use them..
Does the rear independent suspension still look like the lower control arms will catch on a marble? How can they put a Z71 badge on a mall crawler? Can you take any of these on any BLM roads in the mountains? These prices are so nuts. Nope.
Would be nice to have the front seat removable to offer walk through capability.
So... If you want - and need - 9 seats, wouldn't a van be an easier to live with choice? At a similar size it's even more spacious, has a bigger boot and better modularity, plus - I can presume - it's more fuel efficient.
Not if you need ground clearance.
@@rich6246And how many people buy full-size SUVs to use them off tarmac?
The big suv and trucks get regular switches for light control but the smaller suvs and trucks have it in the screen…come on GM!
@@Tbar24 they have them here. Yet you still complain about their absence in a completely separate vehicle just for the sake of complaining? Such a typical tone around these parts whenever it’s a *gm.* It’s REALLY weird.
Light control? I haven't touched the lights in my truck in the 3 years I owned it
@@G-Rated I’m not complaining for the sake of complaining jerk…just saying that it makes no sense.
@@davidleeosbourne2727 Many people like to have easy control of lighting for different purposes. Just saying.
@@Tbar24 how doesn’t it make sense? The Tahoe and Traverse aren’t the same prices and one offers way more than the other so perhaps the argument was made that the more expensive product (Tahoe) keeping more physical controls as well as receiving the heavy technological upgrades were feasible and more important especially for customers with so many extra options over the Traverse. It makes plenty of sense to me.
Welcome to Texas it’ll be hot for at least the rest of the month during the day
I Grew up in a 04 Suburban. Great vehicle for road trips, very comfortable, not great on MPG. But if you look past that you can have yourself a pretty sleek looking vehicle. Now I joke with my mother saying we need another suburban!
Our ‘04 Burb has 270k.
I'm custom ordering a H.C this winter Feb/Mar. Can I order the High Country WITHOUT the Panasonic Sunroof? For me it's a deal breaker for the hail here in Colorado. Or do I have to go with the Premier for that Non option?
The online configurator should be up soon. We can check.
I Really Wish Chevrolet And GM Would Bring Back Manual Transmission For SUGs and Trucks 👍🏻👍🏻