@@chadchadington8876 and will probably have another rough start next gen. You know, with lack of must play launch exclusives and a controller that has technology two generations old. Just because it feels nicer, doesn't mean it's new. Give me a gyroscope or something
@@teneesh3376 did you see how many launch titles they revealed? The PS5 controller features sounds cool but in reality why do you need gyro or motion sensor on a controller? Joy cons are understand cause they're separate controllers but an actual controller doesn't need it. I hope the elite controller 3 has the haptic feedback that the PS5 controller has
@@mmm.3839 honestly, there weren't any titles that excited me. Not even halo. Though the 343 games have disappointed me Also a gyroscope is great for gyro aiming. A much better way to aim then using the analog sticks. And if you don't like it, you can turn it off. But the majority of people who have tried using gyro aiming prefer it. PC users utilize the features of the ps4 controller way more then sony ever has. But also, the controller is going to be more expensive at launch. So what's the point for the controller being more expensive, other then "it feels better"
I can think of two other reason the PS2 was very successful. First off, it was the cheapest DVD player at the time of its release, which enticed a lot of non-gamers to buy it (eventually they also started playing games on it as well). Another is that between the discontinuation of the Dreamcast in March 2001 and the release of the Gamecube in September 2001, there was a five month window where PS2 was the only 6th generation console available, which allowed Sony to accumulate more sales during this time.
@@jackmeoff9299 At that time, games are everything, I had PS2 then and if I had to choose again, I would choose PS2 again, because it had the most and the best games. Back then even 3rd party games were exclusive from Capcom, Square-Enix, Konami, Rockstar and many others that were not available on any other platform. When I think of 2001 only when Xbox and GC came out for comparison and also compared to today crazy how many excellent game (Ico, Silent Hill 2, Gran Turismo 3, Metal Gear Solid 2, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy 10, Jak and Daxter, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Onimusha, SSX Tricky, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, Ace Combat 4, Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2, Grand Theft Auto III) all this in one year and almost all PS2 exclusives, later some also came to Xbox. This is the reason GAMES, not the power of the console.
@@sjuric2435 I actually owned the Dreamcast the PS2 and the Xbox I purchased them all when they came out absolutely loved the Dreamcast because it truly mimicked arcade quality graphics but unfortunately it lacked 3rd party support I felt the PS2 was a failure because it was more powerful than the Dreamcast but unfortunately much of the rendering it did lacked quality in the Dreamcast usually had a sharper and nicer picture and hands down the Xbox was King with a phenomenal game lineup I still own a fully Modded Xbox with every game ever made for Xbox on it including thousands of others I also still have my Dreamcast but I no longer have a PS2
@@jackmeoff9299 I've never had a Dreamcast, but the PS2 was stronger and quite a lot. Especially in games that printed a lot of physics and geometry like MGS2, Jak and Daxter, Shadow of Colossus, etc. Later games improved the picture quality a lot on the PS2 when they started to come with 480p support. There were also a lot of myths that the PS2 doesn't have or uses anti-aliasing, the truth is that none of those consoles used anti-aliasing in games because it was too demanding for the consoles of that time, including the Xbox, even though it is supported by hardware like the Gamecube. What the PS2 lacked was mipmapping, so the games had that characteristic PS2 look. Last week I read on the Beyond3d forum why the Game Cube never got a Burnout 3 port because it's CPU couldn't handle the game, first of all collisions and car geometry were hard to deal with on GC CPU and the game depends on a smooth 60fps. Interesting read, I didn't know that.
The only console I have out of the current Gen is a Switch. I'm still saving up money to get an OG Xbox, 360 and PS2 before I even think about getting any more new consoles.
I currently have a Xbox one, PS4, Wii and Gameboy. I used to have a Xbox 360, PS1 and PSP but no longer do. Technically I've still got the PSP but it's broke.
The PS2 was also the cheapest DVD player on the market so that helped drive the sales numbers up. Why would people buy a normal DVD player when you can buy a cheaper one that also plays video games? Sony had the perfect set up with the PS2.
@@IvanHernandez-kn5gg While I can say from experience that Sonic Heroes definitely runs best on the Xbox, its mostly on frame rate and is very much not without its other problems lol. Shadow the Hedgehog I think uses the same engine but better optimised tho, for how divisive the gameplay mechanics can be. Can say from experience also that it does NOT run better on the PS2 either though, lmao. Could not have been more glad to finally get my hands on an Xbox copy of that game after so long, several years later.
I'm so glad to see you here. All three guests have a wealth of gaming knowledge and its great that you made your voices heard. Love to see more of this.
I miss those days. Made a lot of good friends on Xbox Live playing Halo 2, Midnight Club 2, Burnout 3 so many nights that turned into early mornings. Seems like a lifetime ago. Although I owned PS2 it was only for exclusives my multiplats I played on Xbox.
Crts are underrated, we got rid of them because they were big, heavy and sucked alot of electricity, but not because they didn't provide a clear picture with vga/rgb, component or s-video, with smoother motion compared to Lcd with a natural contrast and color. HD PC Crt Monitors are esp great too, and can be used for modern and retro console or pc gaming without clarity loss between resolutions as superuser said.
@@jaydenmclean8786 You can rest assured man, the superior motion of crt over lcd is a fact, no imo is necessary. There are modern lcd techniques like strobing and black frame insertion because engineers know crt-like motion is better. If you haven't heard of this you can compare this motion test on any lcd (even your phone) and crt and immediately see the clear difference. Interesting stuff. www.testufo.com/framerates#count=1&background=stars&pps=960
The generation just before dlc, day 1 patches and a giant lack of 2d games. Though to be fair, only sony had a controller which is decent enough for 2d games. Xbox's dpad was bad and the gamecube's was tiny
@@thebotfather9508 there were on home consoles at least. Handhelds and pc is a different thing that doesn't apply to this conversation. That's a whole different can of worms. On the top of my head (talking about games made specifically for that gen and not retro rereleases), there was mega man 8, I think a metal slug game, alien hominid was ported to consoles, marvel vs capcom, street fighter 3s, and... that's all I can think of. Though do tell me some 2d games. I would like to add to the collection
Facts. I just watched a ps2 Vs Xbox hype BBC news video from 00/01. It flows exactly like this video, only this video is obviously better as it has all the info. Great stuff
I never had an XBOX but i had the PS2 and it was a great console. That time my family didn't have a lot of money and we were lucky to be able to get one, but i think it was the slimmer model of the PS2. SO MUCH NOSTALGIC moments of those years :) Kevin, thank you for showing how much those times WERE GREAT!! :)
@@MemeMaster-gz7nk you obviously weren't alive back then. No, it being a the cheapest DVD player was the biggest reason it sold 50 million more than any other console
@@EddiXP yes dvd players we're expensive and it was a huge selling point, however it wasn't the greatest reason for the ps2 success. You really think right after the first one sold 100 million the second wouldn't have more?
Another thing that helped the PS2 that wasn’t mentioned? It was a DVD player, and basically the cheapest DVD player at the time. While the Xbox could play DVDs, it required the Xbox remote in order to use it.
What I came to the comments for. How could they fail to mention this? It was a HUGE reason they sold 150 million consoles. Sure there were great games, but that was an often talked about topic at the time. Want one of those new fangled DVD players? You'd be pretty dumb to not buy a PS2.
Xbox live, 4 controller ports, hardrive that you could burn music into and play during some games. OG Xbox is my all time favorite. Still have mine from high school.
15:42 - MGS3 never made it to the original Xbox, unless i'm misunderstanding and you're referring to the later HD collection? Sorry to nitpick! Video is really well done, loved the editing too!
@@richardwatson5730 On Xbox 360 yes, via the HD Collection. Only MGS2 Substance arrived on the OG Xbox though. Snake Eater/Subsistence never arrived on the OG Xbox. And agreed! Replaying MGS3 currently. Still remember MGS2's demo on the PS2 that came with ZoE!
@@mrratchet I remember seeing a cardboard cutout that advertised 3 on Xbox and PC as well. Then they had to retract the Xbox logo and Kojima said it was a mistake and he never intended to put it on Xbox. Don’t remember what happened to the PC version.
@DOOMSlayer Ninetendo may not come out with a home console however statistically Xbox is ranked below Nintendo and Playstation but i do get your point of view
@@udhayramnath5861 Nah. XBOX is above PlayStation and Nintendo. Microsoft brought Hard Disk, Wireless Controllers, Subscription Services, Achievements and many more. Even games, Microsoft has varieities whereas Sony doesn't
I saw the original Xbox but up screen on the Xbox one backwards compatibility and a stream of emotions and memories hit me hard, definitely was a special time to play games
Speaking as man who owned a ps2 as a kid during its inital release, as much as i loved it, i wanted the original xbox and now as an adult when i retro game, i play the original xbox over the ps2. It had it all, the custom music, the best graphics at the time, the controller, the look of the console, the games shared with ps2. I hardly have any motivation for the ps2 when i got the og xbox
My argument has changed alot over the years. PS2 was the console I have probably played the most in my lifetime and I must say the Xbox running games on my modern television in 720p and basically the ENTIRE library in 480p just makes them way more playable than the like 10 games capable of 480p on ps2 😂
Such an amazing video (insert blown mind emoji here) for many many reasons. The main thing that stood out was how well it was cut together. Creating that cohesive narrative with all the other gaming creators in there was really impressive (love collabs like that). Second best Kev video of all time, only because the greatest Kev video of all time is (of course) "Thanks Nintendo."
I agree Xbox needs more games to rival God of War, horizon zero dawn, uncharted, bloodborne etc. if they can follow this formula they might reach Sony’s level in this industry
Honestly, each platform has their own games that I really love, (especially Nintendo) but Xbox will always be special to me, with it's vastly superior Online Services in comparison to PlayStation. I made so much more memories on my Xbox 360, had so much fun, and made so many friends, and the PS3 really just had great campaign titles for me.
The original xbox was modifiable where you didn't need to buy games you just loaded them onto your hard drive. Need for speed underground, most wanted, starwars battlefront 2 mortal kombat shaolin monks many great games. It was dope.
the Xbox Series X seems like a better system due to better backwards compatibility. Sony on the other hand cheaped out and decided gamestreaming for PS1, PS2 and PS3 games was ok. it's hilarious that the PS3 could run PS1 and PS2 games (PS2 taken out in later models) but the PS5 cannot run PS1 or PS2 games and instead has to rely on streaming.
It’s hilarious that xbots buy a brand new console to play old games they can already play and think is a better console because of it. Hey tell that to the PS4 which sold over twice as much as the Xbox one also the switch which already outsold the Xbox one as well and both don’t have backwards compatibility.
@@H.E.M. The ability to play older games is good for those looking to go play older games for systems they may not even own, I had a PS2 yeah, but it broke, what do I do now? buy another PS2 or go for a system that gives me an official alternative for running PS2 games, and you gotta remember it's an inevitability that the original systems will fail, so backwards compatibility is a necessity for game perseveration, otherwise we'll be stuck with just emulating games on PC which has questionable legalities behind the ROMs. the Xbox One is a better Metal Gear Solid gaming system than the PS4, and that sounds horribly wrong. there's no excuse for why the PS5 cannot run the PS1 or PS2, the PS3 can do it, and its definitely way weaker than the PS5, oh and there's no excuse for the PS5 being unable to run PS3 games, yeah I could own a real PS3 and PS2, or shrink my setup down with 1 system that can run every previous Playstation system, heck the PS5 isn't even perfect with its PS4 backwards compatibility, which is just terrible. I'm no serious microsoft fan (in fact I hate Microsoft for ruining online multiplayer for console gaming) but at least Microsoft is actually making an effort to make it easier to play older games from previous systems, unlike the lazy fucks at Sony. and what if I'm a new fan to a system? like I moved from Xbox to playstation 5 and wanted to play an old Playstation exclusive game? well I'm shit outta luck unless we get an HD port or collection.
You know as a kid i enjoyed both systems and know the ps2 has an insanely large library but now as an adult and a collector, i actually think the xbox games aged better and prefer its exclusive library over the ps2 on the whole
Im on the opposite side. I have both but I collect heavily for the Ps2 now. Playing Ps2 games in 1080i GSM in widescreen on a 50inch HDTV with wireless ps4 controller is life lol
I love every console ! I always get all of them , they all have something to offer , from Sony and Nintendo games to Xbox and PC combo , I play my Xbox most ,I work in HVAC and I get home really late and sometimes I just don't wanna deal with PC problems , sometimes I feel like I troubleshoot and move slider more than playing ! even tho my PC is pretty beefy is just a drawback . So having a Xbox that plays games pretty good makes it my go to 3rd party machine ! Sony makes amazing games !!! And Nintendo has I believe better games than sony 🤩. In conclusion they are all great !
Luis Cruz Maybe there is something up with my brother’s Xbox One, but whenever we play it has to do an update or download that takes at least a half hour. And before that you have to sign in, confirm it with another device, etc etc. Kinda sounds like the annoying troubles you go through with PC. Is there a way to not deal with this on Xbox? I go PS and Nintendo (except I skipped Wii U), so I am not really familiar with Xbox. But I am sometimes curious to get it, for the game pass (if you think that’s worth it?). Other than that, what makes you go Xbox over PS? Is 3rd party quality just slightly better than on PS, or is there more to it?
Jehnsy93 I hope you don’t mind reading my above comment, I would like to hear your thoughts/opinions too. If not though that’s okay, I know I wrote quite a bit.
@@mikeoretta8818 I have a simple solution. I buy all the single player games that are available on Switch on the system but all the multiplayer games on PC. Exception for non demanding multiplayer games like Rocket League. But if you don't care about portability (what's wrong with you😝) go for PC/XBOX ONE.
The reason the controller was so big is because Sony blocked them from buying parts so they had to make their own circuit boards which was another way Sony tried to sabotage them
I've owned every console that's come out since the PlayStation 2. The console Wars are fun but honestly I hope none of these companies stop making consoles. Xbox has been my staple but recently I got a PlayStation Vita and I got very interested in PlayStation games. Now I have a PlayStation 4 which I use the Vita for remote play. I just also got a switch Lite as well. Hopefully I don't get joy con drift. Video games are fucking life.
Watch all your stuff Kevin, i never comment. I needed to on this one. I love your production value. The music, the graphics, the B-roll's. Top not work man!
I agree with everything you said but you failed to mention the fact that the PS2 was the cheapest dvd player anyone could buy at the time which accelerated sales especially in that first year.
Really amazing Video. You can feel that this was made with love, great editing, great research and a fantastic vibe to the video. Definetly deserves more views
Not really into the whole console war. I have owed every PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo all the way back to the NES. Each one brought something unique to the table. Crap, I remember playing my dad’s Atari!
@@StarkZaku I'm a fan of Nintendo.. but I don't consider the Wii a win... I just mean in overall the 360 had the best library and the console that for the hardcore gaming audience at the time. This is why they are a big player in the race today... if that success didn't happen... I'm not sure they would even be a threat to Sony today. I believe just about every Nintendo gamer in the early 2000s jumped over to Xbox 360 cause the Wii wasn't what they wanted.
@@StarkZaku I can't argue with that... But it takes more then sales to win the console wars... what is going to forward the brand as a whole... just because every mom in the US bought a Wii... doesn't mean it ended up being more then a glorified paperweight. Once you played Twilight Princess and Brawl, you jumped ship. Dev's had a hard time developing with motion controls. The Wii U bombed because of the Wii's failures... don't get me wrong I liked it and I still have my Wii... but I just don't think sales won that one.
Did MVG just inadvertently praise Xbox for inventing the online gaming paywall and then complain that you needed a single purchase adapter for online on PS2? Wow
This generation was the weird one where each controller was very similar and different at the same time. I prefer the layout of the ps2, but I love the overall feel of the xbox S controller. But the black, white, start and back buttons were in a weird position. Also I went through so many controllers because of one manufactering flaw. Over time, the red cable would get strained over time. Until it becomes so damaged, that the controller would constantly disconnect The gamecube controller was there. I don't get the praise
Am I the only person watching him play a game ALONE in a bedroom wearing a mask? Reminds me of the people I see driving down the street alone with a mask on. LMAO!
I was an Xbot through and through; never had any interest in PlayStation until the PS3 came out. My fanboyism was short lived; while I played my 360 more, the PS3 was an amazing piece of hardware. Loved it.
Wrong, - the Emotion Engine was by FAR and away the most powerful CPU w/ it's Vector Units and multithreading SuperScalar architecture, Ken. Get your facts straight, and honestly it's surprising you would make this huge blunder given you have Austin or someone else to tel you - or should have told you: *You can't compare clock-speeds off DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURES!" - A little perusing around Beyond3D Forums with actual game devs will shed some real truth on the power the PS2 had CPU-wise. The GPU is where the Xbox really got its advantage. If not for it, it would've been trash by comparison to the PS2. The PS2 had insanely fast RAM, data path sets and w/ the fully-programmable VU's pull off shit the Xbox simply couldn't do: Zone of Enders II (60FPS w/ more particle shit than a fireworks show), maintaining a higher frame rate in MGS and the like. But it wasn't the 'weakest' - just different. Btw, compare Area 51 on the two systems and you'll soon realize Halo, in some - most of its - capacity, could've been done on the PS2. Insane graphics w/o breaking a sweat.
Isn't it frustrating when ppl who don't understand the technical aspects of consoles talk about them deceiving thousands (or millions if you're James Rofle) creating a false narrative. Something that I've realized is that ppl only, and I mean only pay attention to graphical power, game and cpu performance be damned ppl are blind to that (especially in regard to the retro systems). My only question is, Zone ote II is a magnificent game but it suffers from slowdown tremendously, probably as a result of things being pushed too far. So it's a showcase game but at the same time it isnt? Idk
@@retrosoul8770 id say the best games that show case console is jak and daxter the game is open world has no loading times and runs at 60 FPS also games like onimusha 4 another ps2 exclusive the has really good draw distance and high frame rate and some of the best graphics on the ps2 if not some of the best graphics in this era there’s so much more games like kingdom hearts 2 that showed the power of ps2 and I would say shadow of the colossus but even tho it look good the frame rate was bad soo
@@armorwolf7934 Yeah Ps2s has many graphical and performance showcase games. Some others I've discovered within the past few yrs of digging into the library are Transformers, Genji Dawn of the Samurai, Valkyrie Profile 2, Ace Combat 4-Zero, Shadow of Rome, Dragon Q VIII, Shox etc. Ps2 has so many gems, greatest library oat imo.
I was a PS2 kid and still love it today, but I have thought about buying an xbox on ebay, but buying a console that old seems a bit risky, and unused in the box ones are expensive as hell
This generation of consoles was amazing. Everyone brought their all.
But the ps2 won that generation. Slighty due to some people buying it as a dvd player. But mostly games. Though I will always love the OG xbox more
xbox this gen had a rough start
@@chadchadington8876 and will probably have another rough start next gen. You know, with lack of must play launch exclusives and a controller that has technology two generations old.
Just because it feels nicer, doesn't mean it's new. Give me a gyroscope or something
@@teneesh3376 did you see how many launch titles they revealed? The PS5 controller features sounds cool but in reality why do you need gyro or motion sensor on a controller? Joy cons are understand cause they're separate controllers but an actual controller doesn't need it. I hope the elite controller 3 has the haptic feedback that the PS5 controller has
@@mmm.3839 honestly, there weren't any titles that excited me. Not even halo. Though the 343 games have disappointed me
Also a gyroscope is great for gyro aiming. A much better way to aim then using the analog sticks. And if you don't like it, you can turn it off. But the majority of people who have tried using gyro aiming prefer it. PC users utilize the features of the ps4 controller way more then sony ever has. But also, the controller is going to be more expensive at launch. So what's the point for the controller being more expensive, other then "it feels better"
PS2 was legendary for rpgs.
What about KoTOR, Elder Scrolls, Fable?
I wish we could get RPGs like that again
Smt3 Dds1 & 2 persona 3 and 4
That was ps1
It was you dio
I can think of two other reason the PS2 was very successful. First off, it was the cheapest DVD player at the time of its release, which enticed a lot of non-gamers to buy it (eventually they also started playing games on it as well). Another is that between the discontinuation of the Dreamcast in March 2001 and the release of the Gamecube in September 2001, there was a five month window where PS2 was the only 6th generation console available, which allowed Sony to accumulate more sales during this time.
True but the Xbox was so much more powerful than the PS2 it's hard to believe that the Xbox didn't do better
@@jackmeoff9299 At that time, games are everything, I had PS2 then and if I had to choose again, I would choose PS2 again, because it had the most and the best games. Back then even 3rd party games were exclusive from Capcom, Square-Enix, Konami, Rockstar and many others that were not available on any other platform.
When I think of 2001 only when Xbox and GC came out for comparison and also compared to today crazy how many excellent game (Ico, Silent Hill 2, Gran Turismo 3, Metal Gear Solid 2, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy 10, Jak and Daxter, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Onimusha, SSX Tricky, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, Ace Combat 4, Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2, Grand Theft Auto III) all this in one year and almost all PS2 exclusives, later some also came to Xbox. This is the reason GAMES, not the power of the console.
@@sjuric2435 I actually owned the Dreamcast the PS2 and the Xbox I purchased them all when they came out absolutely loved the Dreamcast because it truly mimicked arcade quality graphics but unfortunately it lacked 3rd party support I felt the PS2 was a failure because it was more powerful than the Dreamcast but unfortunately much of the rendering it did lacked quality in the Dreamcast usually had a sharper and nicer picture and hands down the Xbox was King with a phenomenal game lineup I still own a fully Modded Xbox with every game ever made for Xbox on it including thousands of others I also still have my Dreamcast but I no longer have a PS2
@@sjuric2435 once you play an Xbox game and then go play the same game on a PS2 you would think the Xbox was a PS3 by comparison
@@jackmeoff9299 I've never had a Dreamcast, but the PS2 was stronger and quite a lot. Especially in games that printed a lot of physics and geometry like MGS2, Jak and Daxter, Shadow of Colossus, etc. Later games improved the picture quality a lot on the PS2 when they started to come with 480p support. There were also a lot of myths that the PS2 doesn't have or uses anti-aliasing, the truth is that none of those consoles used anti-aliasing in games because it was too demanding for the consoles of that time, including the Xbox, even though it is supported by hardware like the Gamecube. What the PS2 lacked was mipmapping, so the games had that characteristic PS2 look. Last week I read on the Beyond3d forum why the Game Cube never got a Burnout 3 port because it's CPU couldn't handle the game, first of all collisions and car geometry were hard to deal with on GC CPU and the game depends on a smooth 60fps. Interesting read, I didn't know that.
Who here owns a PlayStation, Xbox and a Nintendo console at once like I do because games are fun? Press X to unite!
The only console I have out of the current Gen is a Switch. I'm still saving up money to get an OG Xbox, 360 and PS2 before I even think about getting any more new consoles.
@@chironthecuddley6144 check on shopgoodwill.com. You can routinely find both of those consoles for very cheap.
@@JeromeADavis My local shops have them rotating in and out constantly, so I can find them pretty easily for cheap.
I currently have a Xbox one, PS4, Wii and Gameboy. I used to have a Xbox 360, PS1 and PSP but no longer do. Technically I've still got the PSP but it's broke.
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Am i the only one who loves all platforms?
Nope👈
Nah! I love them all myself.
I do too. The whole "console war" shit is obnoxious and dumb.
I love them all but I prefer Sony
I love them all fellow jo jo fan
I'm officially retiring from being a fanboy. join me brothers and sisters. ALL CONSOLES ARE AMAZING!!
No the Wii U the best Jk
I love the PlayStation, the PC, and Nintendo switch, I'm not sure about the Xbox tho
Not all, depends on the gen. Nintendo got a HUGE dub for the Wii, failed the Wii U, then came back for the switch.
Agreed I love Playstation, Nintendo, Sega and Xbox. If Sega brings out a console, I will buy it even if it doesn't have any exclusive games.
Not all consoles are amazing
The ps2 will always have a special place in my heart .
Same
Sme
Ps2 honestly was trash. Xbox And GameCube we’re better
@@Hardcoredawg420 in my opinion how was it trash?
@@Hardcoredawg420 are you joking ? ps2 is like the best console ever made
The PS2 was also the cheapest DVD player on the market so that helped drive the sales numbers up. Why would people buy a normal DVD player when you can buy a cheaper one that also plays video games? Sony had the perfect set up with the PS2.
I mean yeah, but they could have done better with sonic heroes for ps2
But it had scratch problem, if dvd had light lil bit scratches theres chance of Error in readin
@@IvanHernandez-kn5gg While I can say from experience that Sonic Heroes definitely runs best on the Xbox, its mostly on frame rate and is very much not without its other problems lol.
Shadow the Hedgehog I think uses the same engine but better optimised tho, for how divisive the gameplay mechanics can be. Can say from experience also that it does NOT run better on the PS2 either though, lmao. Could not have been more glad to finally get my hands on an Xbox copy of that game after so long, several years later.
First console with CD's, DVD's and games at the same time. I remember hearing this all the time.
Thank you SO MUCH for having me!! Long live the PS2 and it's glorious library!
Thanks for letting me take part!!
I'm so glad to see you here. All three guests have a wealth of gaming knowledge and its great that you made your voices heard. Love to see more of this.
You ruined the video. Thanks. 😢
@@MobileDecay 😂
I remember the time sony completely destroyed Sega out of the console market.
I'll always remember that day.
It hurts
Sega still makes great games though they left the console market.
@@SuiteLifeofDioBrando uhhhhhhh
Sega
@@thetalkativefos716 anything but me
Does no one remember when Splinter Cell came out for the original Xbox?? That shit blew my mind back then with all the crazy lighting
I remember. It looked awesome.
I remember. It looked awesome.
Yes I remember! Splinter cell was amazing.
That was the game that made me want an Xbox.
@@bopsa yea what happen??
I miss those days. Made a lot of good friends on Xbox Live playing Halo 2, Midnight Club 2, Burnout 3 so many nights that turned into early mornings. Seems like a lifetime ago. Although I owned PS2 it was only for exclusives my multiplats I played on Xbox.
Sad you made friends with Xbox online
Crazy how sharp OG Halo looks on a CRT
Crts work very well even with non native resolution not like LCDs
Crts are underrated, we got rid of them because they were big, heavy and sucked alot of electricity, but not because they didn't provide a clear picture with vga/rgb, component or s-video, with smoother motion compared to Lcd with a natural contrast and color. HD PC Crt Monitors are esp great too, and can be used for modern and retro console or pc gaming without clarity loss between resolutions as superuser said.
@@retrosoul8770 I definitely agree with you, also CRT's had no input lag (well, the analogue ones) and better motion IMO.
@@jaydenmclean8786 You can rest assured man, the superior motion of crt over lcd is a fact, no imo is necessary. There are modern lcd techniques like strobing and black frame insertion because engineers know crt-like motion is better.
If you haven't heard of this you can compare this motion test on any lcd (even your phone) and crt and immediately see the clear difference. Interesting stuff. www.testufo.com/framerates#count=1&background=stars&pps=960
Meanwhile I’m playing a super smash melee and Mario Kart double dash.
Can’t forget those games
I see no problem with that...
👌🔥Melee... what an experience!
And now, it's playstation Vs game pass
I think it’s more of PlayStation vs Xbox, XCloud, GamePass, and PC at this point.
@@stinkynacho2362 nope it's actually PlayStation vs streaming
I disagree Microsoft is competing with Netflix so...
Since when was movies and TV shows even remotely similar to video games?
The movie and video game markets are two completely different markets
@Sonic the hedgehog Ummmm, the Xbox consoles still exist tho? We’re not there yet buddy 😂
The best generation of video games this world will ever see
Pretty much!
hmm idk... Sony, Microsoft, Sony & Sega all going at it... I might have to agree.
The generation just before dlc, day 1 patches and a giant lack of 2d games. Though to be fair, only sony had a controller which is decent enough for 2d games. Xbox's dpad was bad and the gamecube's was tiny
@@teneesh3376 wut? there is no shortage of 2D games lol... especially if you play on PC.
@@thebotfather9508 there were on home consoles at least. Handhelds and pc is a different thing that doesn't apply to this conversation. That's a whole different can of worms. On the top of my head (talking about games made specifically for that gen and not retro rereleases), there was mega man 8, I think a metal slug game, alien hominid was ported to consoles, marvel vs capcom, street fighter 3s, and... that's all I can think of. Though do tell me some 2d games. I would like to add to the collection
Only ogs know the real console wars, Nintendo and Sega
Atari versus Apple
@Vertex no, kids these days don't even know what Sega is, and since every virgin is playing fortnite I doubt they care about Nintendo and Sega
@@SunnyMin_ 😂
@@SunnyMin_ bitches grow up with Fortnite on PS4, but legends grow up with Super Mario Galaxy on Wii.
HeyItsMeAlex16 no one plays fortnite anymore lmao, also everyone knows sega, who doesn’t, everyone knows sonic
The production level in these videos are very professional and high class. Could fool anyone for a TV series.
Facts. I just watched a ps2 Vs Xbox hype BBC news video from 00/01. It flows exactly like this video, only this video is obviously better as it has all the info. Great stuff
The whole console war thing is not my thing tbh for me i love all consoles plus console wars are just immature gamers
and #PonyBots
I've always had both the only difference is the exclusives
The original Xbox is still the coolest console I own. Immensely powerful for its time and if just looked like some alien box.
Nathan Nesen don’t get me wrong the PlayStation has some awesome games. But something about that startup screen gets me every time.
i had a ps2. I've always wanted to play an og xbox. of course i have a 360 and one.
@@Spiccolo1202 Never too late! They are still relatively cheap on eBay.
And the graphics too
The ps2 was disgustingly underpowered. I enjoyed mine but if I had an Xbox I wouldve been having a Blast with Xbox live and halo.
What about the ps2 dvd capabilities? That was a HUUUUGE selling point
Xbox had DVD playback as well, but I’m pretty sure you needed an add on to play DVD movies and music. Correct me if I’m wrong
@jackthegamer
No, you needed an add-on.
It was small and it plugged in the front, and I owned one.
@@IBrokeMySpaceKey yeah it had that kit, reason why it’s separate because it would’ve made the Xbox more expensive.
I never had an XBOX but i had the PS2 and it was a great console. That time my family didn't have a lot of money and we were lucky to be able to get one, but i think it was the slimmer model of the PS2. SO MUCH NOSTALGIC moments of those years :) Kevin, thank you for showing how much those times WERE GREAT!! :)
Jeez how did you miss the DVD player lol. That was the biggest reason it sold astronomical numbers
Eddie Hoo DVD player was the selling point for kids to convince parents to buy it. More than a gaming system.
@@zzygyy man I know I used it as a bargaining chip lol!
No, the biggest reason was the hype from the ps1, which sold 100m units,
@@MemeMaster-gz7nk you obviously weren't alive back then. No, it being a the cheapest DVD player was the biggest reason it sold 50 million more than any other console
@@EddiXP yes dvd players we're expensive and it was a huge selling point, however it wasn't the greatest reason for the ps2 success. You really think right after the first one sold 100 million the second wouldn't have more?
Another thing that helped the PS2 that wasn’t mentioned? It was a DVD player, and basically the cheapest DVD player at the time. While the Xbox could play DVDs, it required the Xbox remote in order to use it.
Definitely it played a part of the ps2 success
Its a video game console. Foe video games. Who didnt have a dvd player. Plus super easy to mod and burn games to the hdd. Xbox was a beast.
What I came to the comments for. How could they fail to mention this? It was a HUGE reason they sold 150 million consoles. Sure there were great games, but that was an often talked about topic at the time.
Want one of those new fangled DVD players? You'd be pretty dumb to not buy a PS2.
I hated the fact that they forced you to buy the remote to play DVDs. I wanted to see my Shrek without having to shell out an extra $20.
Jo12dan James calm down fanboy
Man I had like 1200 song downloaded to my OG Xbox and never got close to maxing they memory dam that was the best
Xbox live, 4 controller ports, hardrive that you could burn music into and play during some games. OG Xbox is my all time favorite. Still have mine from high school.
yeah. i'ma need more of this retro-gaming content from you fam.
I personally think this was the greatest console generation of all time
Agree
@Foaad Hisham I can also agree with that because i had a wii and a 360 they were also great
A lot of the reasons PlayStation sells really well is because of the exclusives
And because of the success of ps1, the first console built up hype for the next
@@demonetization1455 ya I can get behind that as well
The Xbox will always have a special place in my heart.
I bought a PS2 the day that the XBOX launched. My uncle bought the XBOX, along with Shrek...and Halo.
We played Halo almost every single day.
15:42 - MGS3 never made it to the original Xbox, unless i'm misunderstanding and you're referring to the later HD collection? Sorry to nitpick! Video is really well done, loved the editing too!
2 and 3 both came to Xbox under the substance titles. Great games.
@@richardwatson5730 On Xbox 360 yes, via the HD Collection. Only MGS2 Substance arrived on the OG Xbox though. Snake Eater/Subsistence never arrived on the OG Xbox.
And agreed! Replaying MGS3 currently. Still remember MGS2's demo on the PS2 that came with ZoE!
@@mrratchet I remember seeing a cardboard cutout that advertised 3 on Xbox and PC as well. Then they had to retract the Xbox logo and Kojima said it was a mistake and he never intended to put it on Xbox. Don’t remember what happened to the PC version.
The truth is xbox was never even a competitor with playstation its actually Nintendo
@DOOMSlayer Ninetendo may not come out with a home console however statistically Xbox is ranked below Nintendo and Playstation but i do get your point of view
@@udhayramnath5861 Nah. XBOX is above PlayStation and Nintendo. Microsoft brought Hard Disk, Wireless Controllers, Subscription Services, Achievements and many more. Even games, Microsoft has varieities whereas Sony doesn't
For their first console, how unbelievable was the xbox?
Awesome!
I saw the original Xbox but up screen on the Xbox one backwards compatibility and a stream of emotions and memories hit me hard, definitely was a special time to play games
5:55 awesome grandma!
I completely stopped paying attention to the video when I realized the background music was Gungor’s “Walking With Our Eyes Closed” lol
I miss these days I grew up with the n64 and ps2
9:23 Footage of Halo Infinite running on the Series X (lmao)
Only thing is halo infinite running on series x hasn't been seen by any of the public
I'm actually excited about the new PS5 controller
Speaking as man who owned a ps2 as a kid during its inital release, as much as i loved it, i wanted the original xbox and now as an adult when i retro game, i play the original xbox over the ps2. It had it all, the custom music, the best graphics at the time, the controller, the look of the console, the games shared with ps2. I hardly have any motivation for the ps2 when i got the og xbox
I've just ordered a OG Xbox can't wait to play the games that I played on PS2 back then 😊😊
@@mall231 and their exclusives, at the time og Xbox had alot of exclusives
My argument has changed alot over the years. PS2 was the console I have probably played the most in my lifetime and I must say the Xbox running games on my modern television in 720p and basically the ENTIRE library in 480p just makes them way more playable than the like 10 games capable of 480p on ps2 😂
xbox had better graphics but ps2 had better games
@@Gencturk92 any games that were on both its better on Xbox
@@SwampFox178 yeah but everyone in that generation had ps2, i only knew one person that had xbox
Such an amazing video (insert blown mind emoji here) for many many reasons. The main thing that stood out was how well it was cut together. Creating that cohesive narrative with all the other gaming creators in there was really impressive (love collabs like that). Second best Kev video of all time, only because the greatest Kev video of all time is (of course) "Thanks Nintendo."
PlayStation is killing it but Xbox needs to step up. I respect Xbox but they need more than just Halo.
we dont even need to get next gen to play our exclusives lol so No, why spend money to enter next gen when you dont have too, Microsofts moto. choice
I agree Xbox needs more games to rival God of War, horizon zero dawn, uncharted, bloodborne etc. if they can follow this formula they might reach Sony’s level in this industry
@Muhammed Javed can’t really get your fan base to upgrade to next gen when you don’t have any next gen games lol
What the point getting a Xbox cause all of their games on pc so I might as well get a ps5
@@tayyab0987 Very true. However why make next gen in the first place?
Honestly, each platform has their own games that I really love, (especially Nintendo) but Xbox will always be special to me, with it's vastly superior Online Services in comparison to PlayStation. I made so much more memories on my Xbox 360, had so much fun, and made so many friends, and the PS3 really just had great campaign titles for me.
The original xbox was modifiable where you didn't need to buy games you just loaded them onto your hard drive. Need for speed underground, most wanted, starwars battlefront 2 mortal kombat shaolin monks many great games. It was dope.
Not even a competition 😂 putting the fridge that plays halo vs the greatest selling console of all time
This is some quaaaality content
the Xbox Series X seems like a better system due to better backwards compatibility.
Sony on the other hand cheaped out and decided gamestreaming for PS1, PS2 and PS3 games was ok.
it's hilarious that the PS3 could run PS1 and PS2 games (PS2 taken out in later models) but the PS5 cannot run PS1 or PS2 games and instead has to rely on streaming.
It’s hilarious that xbots buy a brand new console to play old games they can already play and think is a better console because of it. Hey tell that to the PS4 which sold over twice as much as the Xbox one also the switch which already outsold the Xbox one as well and both don’t have backwards compatibility.
@@H.E.M. The ability to play older games is good for those looking to go play older games for systems they may not even own, I had a PS2 yeah, but it broke, what do I do now? buy another PS2 or go for a system that gives me an official alternative for running PS2 games, and you gotta remember it's an inevitability that the original systems will fail, so backwards compatibility is a necessity for game perseveration, otherwise we'll be stuck with just emulating games on PC which has questionable legalities behind the ROMs.
the Xbox One is a better Metal Gear Solid gaming system than the PS4, and that sounds horribly wrong.
there's no excuse for why the PS5 cannot run the PS1 or PS2, the PS3 can do it, and its definitely way weaker than the PS5, oh and there's no excuse for the PS5 being unable to run PS3 games, yeah I could own a real PS3 and PS2, or shrink my setup down with 1 system that can run every previous Playstation system, heck the PS5 isn't even perfect with its PS4 backwards compatibility, which is just terrible.
I'm no serious microsoft fan (in fact I hate Microsoft for ruining online multiplayer for console gaming) but at least Microsoft is actually making an effort to make it easier to play older games from previous systems, unlike the lazy fucks at Sony.
and what if I'm a new fan to a system? like I moved from Xbox to playstation 5 and wanted to play an old Playstation exclusive game? well I'm shit outta luck unless we get an HD port or collection.
@@WednesdayMan backwards compatibility is a nice feature and it's always good to have but it's not necessary for consoles success.
@@jayarcher3331 first off, you're right that it is good to have, you're wrong on the part where it isn't necessary for consoles.
@@WednesdayMan if you feel it is then more power to you.
You know as a kid i enjoyed both systems and know the ps2 has an insanely large library but now as an adult and a collector, i actually think the xbox games aged better and prefer its exclusive library over the ps2 on the whole
Im on the opposite side. I have both but I collect heavily for the Ps2 now. Playing Ps2 games in 1080i GSM in widescreen on a 50inch HDTV with wireless ps4 controller is life lol
I love every console ! I always get all of them , they all have something to offer , from Sony and Nintendo games to Xbox and PC combo , I play my Xbox most ,I work in HVAC and I get home really late and sometimes I just don't wanna deal with PC problems , sometimes I feel like I troubleshoot and move slider more than playing ! even tho my PC is pretty beefy is just a drawback . So having a Xbox that plays games pretty good makes it my go to 3rd party machine ! Sony makes amazing games !!! And Nintendo has I believe better games than sony 🤩. In conclusion they are all great !
In conclusion: Nintendo has the best 1st party games, PlayStation the best 3rd party games and XBOX/PC the best quality.
Luis Cruz Maybe there is something up with my brother’s Xbox One, but whenever we play it has to do an update or download that takes at least a half hour. And before that you have to sign in, confirm it with another device, etc etc. Kinda sounds like the annoying troubles you go through with PC. Is there a way to not deal with this on Xbox?
I go PS and Nintendo (except I skipped Wii U), so I am not really familiar with Xbox. But I am sometimes curious to get it, for the game pass (if you think that’s worth it?). Other than that, what makes you go Xbox over PS? Is 3rd party quality just slightly better than on PS, or is there more to it?
Jehnsy93 I hope you don’t mind reading my above comment, I would like to hear your thoughts/opinions too. If not though that’s okay, I know I wrote quite a bit.
@@mikeoretta8818 I have a simple solution. I buy all the single player games that are available on Switch on the system but all the multiplayer games on PC. Exception for non demanding multiplayer games like Rocket League. But if you don't care about portability (what's wrong with you😝) go for PC/XBOX ONE.
very rich very rich.... got it, got it.. ai ai sir, please send me you old consoles, would help
can we just appreciate the work that went into this video
PS2 with Ethernet adapter, and HDD.... Playing Socom and FFXI online was bliss!!!
I respect all systems though.
No one played ps2 online. Everyone played XBOX LIVE
@@Texasmade713 ignorant. Stay in Texas.
The ps2 game black looked better than some xbox360 and ps3 games it’s crazy
I love this video
would love to See if you could find a game on most consoles and see the differences
I believe Spyro A Hero's Tail and Crash Bandicoot Wrath of Cortex were available on all three platforms and maybe even Rouge Ops.
Gta san andreas. The og xbox had more loaded into the environment( trees, bushes, people, vehicles) and looked slighty sharper than the ps2 version.
Ps2 > Xbox. Modding helped push the Ps2 to its max potential. GSM using 1080i with OPL widescreen support wins.
Woot woot modern vintage gamer!
The editing and effects in this video are really good.
Favorite generation of gaming. There was no dlc and mostly single player games
Yall need to include the music Playlist in these videos.
Sublab & Azaleh - Aufbruch :)
@@briancoglitore4297 You are the GOAT my friend. Thank you!
3:17 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK BILL🤣🤣🤣 it gets me every time, the rock in 2001 was pure gold
Hey my original NES is still working after 36 years. Talk about quality.
The reason the controller was so big is because Sony blocked them from buying parts so they had to make their own circuit boards which was another way Sony tried to sabotage them
PS2 is the best console to me in my opinion and will have a special place in my brain
yeah i remember everyone had it, i only knew 1 person who had xbox...xbox would have been good if it released before ps2
I've owned every console that's come out since the PlayStation 2. The console Wars are fun but honestly I hope none of these companies stop making consoles. Xbox has been my staple but recently I got a PlayStation Vita and I got very interested in PlayStation games. Now I have a PlayStation 4 which I use the Vita for remote play. I just also got a switch Lite as well. Hopefully I don't get joy con drift. Video games are fucking life.
Watch all your stuff Kevin, i never comment. I needed to on this one. I love your production value. The music, the graphics, the B-roll's. Top not work man!
Let me also add that all your content is high qaulity! This one just stood out for me.
The truth is no matter how powerful the xbox is, the ps has much better titles. Hence forth , ps5 wins.
Cry more..
Keep on lying. Even with games, sony can't make varieties like Microsoft does 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love learning about the past. This was great! I’m sure this took a huge amount of time to produce. I hope you do many more videos like this
Everyone watching this rn hasn't seen half the vid
This comment didn't age well.
I have
I litterly just finished the vid
Oh wow your right for me
Shut it nobody cares all your doing is copying the BOTS
I agree with everything you said but you failed to mention the fact that the PS2 was the cheapest dvd player anyone could buy at the time which accelerated sales especially in that first year.
Really amazing Video. You can feel that this was made with love, great editing, great research and a fantastic vibe to the video. Definetly deserves more views
Hello everyone I am ......... CONSOLES WARS ARE STUPID
True, I only hate the Playstation fanboys
@@arthureaterofworlds5176 I only hate the Xbox fanboys
True, but I remember this quote so much "30 fps is more cinematic!" Hate it so much.
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 You pretty much right that's why I have a PC
@@arthureaterofworlds5176 I hate the pc elitist
Not really into the whole console war. I have owed every PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo all the way back to the NES. Each one brought something unique to the table. Crap, I remember playing my dad’s Atari!
This man has a lot of space on the Playstation 2
PS2 had the greatest collection of boxing games for any system in history. That alone is why I love it so much.
The main reason Xbox is still in the competition... is the fact that the 360 won the 7th Gen...
Not really a win, since it was outsold 2 -1 near the end
@@StarkZaku I'm a fan of Nintendo.. but I don't consider the Wii a win... I just mean in overall the 360 had the best library and the console that for the hardcore gaming audience at the time. This is why they are a big player in the race today... if that success didn't happen... I'm not sure they would even be a threat to Sony today. I believe just about every Nintendo gamer in the early 2000s jumped over to Xbox 360 cause the Wii wasn't what they wanted.
@@blazenfate Sales maybe
@@StarkZaku I can't argue with that... But it takes more then sales to win the console wars... what is going to forward the brand as a whole... just because every mom in the US bought a Wii... doesn't mean it ended up being more then a glorified paperweight. Once you played Twilight Princess and Brawl, you jumped ship. Dev's had a hard time developing with motion controls. The Wii U bombed because of the Wii's failures... don't get me wrong I liked it and I still have my Wii... but I just don't think sales won that one.
Love this production style Kevin. Really works well with this retrospective format. Really really well done 👍
Did MVG just inadvertently praise Xbox for inventing the online gaming paywall and then complain that you needed a single purchase adapter for online on PS2? Wow
The PS2 had crazy exclusives but the Xbox was so ahead of its time in terms of graphics and performance.
@zebrasAreHorses mf thinks a PS2 is worth a lot 💀💀💀
Good timing for this video. Just bought a modded Xbox online. Just for the nostalgia trip 😀
This generation was the weird one where each controller was very similar and different at the same time. I prefer the layout of the ps2, but I love the overall feel of the xbox S controller. But the black, white, start and back buttons were in a weird position.
Also I went through so many controllers because of one manufactering flaw. Over time, the red cable would get strained over time. Until it becomes so damaged, that the controller would constantly disconnect
The gamecube controller was there. I don't get the praise
I think the xbox is a little bit better because it had more of a appeal to couch Co-op with its 4 controller ports
Am I the only person watching him play a game ALONE in a bedroom wearing a mask? Reminds me of the people I see driving down the street alone with a mask on. LMAO!
Ugh, Dreamcast guy in the intro.........
Its Xbox all the way, all my friends and I all loved the original Xbox and stayed with Xbox all this time.
Yea I played Xbox for 11 years. But I switched to PS3 in 2012 then got a PS4. Xbox has no good exclusives anymore
@@Texasmade713 Xbox 360 is the last console with GOOD exclusives,xbox one just have the same games in pc.
@@Texasmade713 Oh yeah Spiderman is sooo good.
This is the RUclips content avengers mashup we needed
I was an Xbot through and through; never had any interest in PlayStation until the PS3 came out. My fanboyism was short lived; while I played my 360 more, the PS3 was an amazing piece of hardware. Loved it.
The Xbox is the greatest game console ever made till this day in my opinion
Agree. Microsoft brought everything to revolutionize gaming. Hard Disk, XBOX LIVE, Wireless Controllers, Achievements and so more
Yeah Kevin likes Xbox more than Playstation.
Really? I feel he likes ps more🤷♂️
@@martinperez1064 nah
Did is totally a Xbox guy.
6 gen era ill never forget online gaming for my first time besides on pc
Wow one of you best videos ever, you should talk about old consoles in a series
Let's just appreciate the editing on this video. I love it! 🥰
Wrong, - the Emotion Engine was by FAR and away the most powerful CPU w/ it's Vector Units and multithreading SuperScalar architecture, Ken. Get your facts straight, and honestly it's surprising you would make this huge blunder given you have Austin or someone else to tel you - or should have told you: *You can't compare clock-speeds off DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURES!" - A little perusing around Beyond3D Forums with actual game devs will shed some real truth on the power the PS2 had CPU-wise.
The GPU is where the Xbox really got its advantage. If not for it, it would've been trash by comparison to the PS2. The PS2 had insanely fast RAM, data path sets and w/ the fully-programmable VU's pull off shit the Xbox simply couldn't do: Zone of Enders II (60FPS w/ more particle shit than a fireworks show), maintaining a higher frame rate in MGS and the like.
But it wasn't the 'weakest' - just different. Btw, compare Area 51 on the two systems and you'll soon realize Halo, in some - most of its - capacity, could've been done on the PS2. Insane graphics w/o breaking a sweat.
Isn't it frustrating when ppl who don't understand the technical aspects of consoles talk about them deceiving thousands (or millions if you're James Rofle) creating a false narrative. Something that I've realized is that ppl only, and I mean only pay attention to graphical power, game and cpu performance be damned ppl are blind to that (especially in regard to the retro systems).
My only question is, Zone ote II is a magnificent game but it suffers from slowdown tremendously, probably as a result of things being pushed too far. So it's a showcase game but at the same time it isnt? Idk
@@retrosoul8770 id say the best games that show case console is jak and daxter the game is open world has no loading times and runs at 60 FPS also games like onimusha 4 another ps2 exclusive the has really good draw distance and high frame rate and some of the best graphics on the ps2 if not some of the best graphics in this era there’s so much more games like kingdom hearts 2 that showed the power of ps2 and I would say shadow of the colossus but even tho it look good the frame rate was bad soo
@@armorwolf7934 Yeah Ps2s has many graphical and performance showcase games. Some others I've discovered within the past few yrs of digging into the library are Transformers, Genji Dawn of the Samurai, Valkyrie Profile 2, Ace Combat 4-Zero, Shadow of Rome, Dragon Q VIII, Shox etc. Ps2 has so many gems, greatest library oat imo.
@@retrosoul8770 oh yes genji dawn of the samurai such a underrated game
When your a hard Fanboy and try to explain why the og xbox was weaker than the ps2
This guy can actually win the stupidity price
The PS2 sold well because it was the cheapest DVD player at launch.
I was a PS2 kid and still love it today, but I have thought about buying an xbox on ebay, but buying a console that old seems a bit risky, and unused in the box ones are expensive as hell
Get you a good modded xbox and you'll never touch your ps2.
PS5 Exclusives>
Who else is getting the new PlayStation rather then the new Xbox
Me playstation is always been better
PlayStation has the games. Xbox still milking halo.
Imma wait for sony to show something
@@Snaketrainer sony has shown everything
@@File.hype.exe_is_not_respondin price? Lineup? Any good game at the start of the generation?
Im waiting for both companies to show what they offer
I grew up playing the PlayStation 2 but as I got older I liked the OG Xbox more then the PlayStation 2
Got ps1, ps2, ps3, psp and ps4 and except the ps1 all of them work fine, apparently in India Sony marketed it way better than Microsoft!