The Misunderstood Vocal Difference Between 1990 & 1993 - Mariah Carey - Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @williamrocha4069
    @williamrocha4069 2 года назад +121

    Music Box is truly her PEAK, strong and full lows, supported belting with amazing resonance and vibrato, head voice is fuller than the other eras, her whistle were at the best.
    Pitch, stamina, breath support, agility, transitions, everything was so well balanced and perfectly executed. We should inspire in MB for our techniques.

    • @galileerwamiye3669
      @galileerwamiye3669 2 года назад +8

      Finally someone said it !!!

    • @williamrocha4069
      @williamrocha4069 2 года назад +3

      @@galileerwamiye3669 just saying the facts right💅🏽

    • @MCsVoice97
      @MCsVoice97 2 года назад +9

      yes! totally agree with this, daydream is amazing as well the fludity the runs are mind blowing but she started to get a bit pitchy

    • @williamrocha4069
      @williamrocha4069 2 года назад +4

      @@MCsVoice97 I love daydream too!
      Maybe she had more impressive vocals in that era, but technically speaking, MB was better, she had more core, pitch, breath support, head voice, whistles and overall consistency
      But DD has amazing upper belts and agility, her falsetto is pretty good too

    • @MCsVoice97
      @MCsVoice97 2 года назад +3

      ​@@williamrocha4069 absolutely

  • @dinasilva9263
    @dinasilva9263 2 года назад +109

    The prime MARIAH(both 1990-1993) is really something else. I'm so happy that i grew up in the 90's and i could see those eras.

    • @thefamilitchichannel1341
      @thefamilitchichannel1341 2 года назад +9

      somewould say her prime goes all the way to 96.

    • @dinasilva9263
      @dinasilva9263 2 года назад +9

      @@thefamilitchichannel1341 of course, to me even more than that, but i was talking about this vídeo.

    • @dereklong7757
      @dereklong7757 2 года назад +3

      @@thefamilitchichannel1341 Thats not her prime.. Her prime actually started in 2002

    • @DaydreamCarey1234
      @DaydreamCarey1234 2 года назад +7

      @@dereklong7757 2001*

    • @fnb8171
      @fnb8171 2 года назад

      @@dereklong7757 bullshit

  • @yasirismail7704
    @yasirismail7704 2 года назад +33

    I think a lot of people forgot that mariah admitted to smoking before her first album came out. I think that added the coarser "smoky" tone to her voice. Then with proper treatment and a different mask placement we got music box and daydream

    • @vincentkohlumcfan22
      @vincentkohlumcfan22 10 месяцев назад

      Is she still smoking? I’m just rly curious

    • @Mainemaine416
      @Mainemaine416 4 месяца назад +1

      @@vincentkohlumcfan22no she stopped while recording her first album because it was messing with her voice

  • @onedollarbleach6891
    @onedollarbleach6891 2 года назад +15

    One thing I love about mb era is her tone and phrasing. Her style sounded so classic here, it’s reminiscent of her musical influences but her take on it. The music box styling ushered in the new “Mariah Carey” sound and solidified her as a household name

  • @sandhyanagarajan
    @sandhyanagarajan 8 месяцев назад +5

    Music Box was truly her vocal prime. She had everything during that era-strong and full lows, supported, resonant belting with amazing vibrato, head voice was fuller than the other eras, her whistles were at its peak. Stamina, breath support, agility, transitions, everything was so well balanced and perfectly executed! Especially during the complex runs, it's so difficult to keep the pitch accurate! We should inspire in MB for our techniques (and I'm trying lol, I can kind of do the Vision Of Love run now but it's still a bit slower than Mariah's and also a bit off-pitch so I'm still working on it lol)

    • @PhenixJoe
      @PhenixJoe 7 месяцев назад +1

      MB absolutely was her vocal prime!

    • @sandhyanagarajan
      @sandhyanagarajan 7 месяцев назад

      @@PhenixJoe yes

    • @whitneyhouston1122
      @whitneyhouston1122 3 месяца назад

      Omg that's literally so cool, my voice I noticed lately sounds like musicbox era/Daydream era tone wise and stuff so like I'm working on it, today it sounded so raspy like Butterfly era because I'm tired but back to you come on almost mastering the VOL run!!! How's it going now? I've 98% mastered the VOL run from msg in 1995 I gotta work on my breath support😭😂.

    • @sandhyanagarajan
      @sandhyanagarajan 3 месяца назад

      @@whitneyhouston1122 the vol run is better now…like you I’ve 98% got it

  • @kylarreger4016
    @kylarreger4016 2 года назад +26

    I loved her voice in 1993 super consultant she was belting her highest highs and her lowest lows with perfect consistency except for her music box tour where she was sick for most of it

    • @ce3540
      @ce3540 2 года назад +6

      Are you saying consistently as far as her technique went during that time? Or consistently in terms of the amount of upper-belts she sang? Because her technique in the tour was as consistent as it was in performances before the tour.

  • @mariahcareydaydreamera2526
    @mariahcareydaydreamera2526 2 года назад +58

    I admit it.😋 Even though I think my belts above D5 are better and my falsetto is more accesable and consistent, i admit that Musicboxriah is objectively better vocally cause her voice is more balanced, all registers are similiary strong😇 Charmbraceletriah is also very balanced era☺️
    Btw 7:06 this F#5 is perfectly on pitch, the “you got ME feel…” F#5 from final chorus from this performance peaked at G5🙂

    • @quarantineera8907
      @quarantineera8907 2 года назад +7

      Your voice is just free but not better lol

    • @mariahcareydaydreamera2526
      @mariahcareydaydreamera2526 2 года назад +21

      @@quarantineera8907 i have lighter and brighter mix which is more healthy on the upper belts. Stop constantly spilling hate on me, you’re so annoying ;)

    • @quarantineera8907
      @quarantineera8907 2 года назад

      @@mariahcareydaydreamera2526 You sound like a squirrel hows that healthy

    • @emc2era988
      @emc2era988 2 года назад +7

      @@mariahcareydaydreamera2526 thank you for being respectful ❤. We need more lambs like you

    • @rosemont2283
      @rosemont2283 2 года назад +3

      @@quarantineera8907 actually her voice was kinda less free

  • @MisterGolightly
    @MisterGolightly 2 года назад +9

    Ok, but the transitions.. PERFECTION! 💜

  • @aeric6145
    @aeric6145 2 года назад +10

    I’m glad how you talked about how even a year for progress in the voice is still very fast! I think a lot of people forget how intimate the voice is and how much rest it needs to grow.

  • @rutgernewman828
    @rutgernewman828 2 года назад +23

    I love her technique in ‘93, especially when you showcased her belts, it sounded so much better than ‘90, although ‘90 sounded good as well

  • @kylarreger4016
    @kylarreger4016 2 года назад +47

    I think it's also important that even with good technique Mariah's voice still declined due to her the natural fragility of Mariah's voice because of her nodules even when she didn't perform and tour that often mostly small tours and tv show appearances

    • @ce3540
      @ce3540 2 года назад +9

      you cannot affirm that she had nodules in her prime. In her prime, her voice was audibly healthy.

    • @williamrocha4069
      @williamrocha4069 2 года назад +18

      @@ce3540 she said she has nodules since 6 years

    • @ismaelm.mbaangue9147
      @ismaelm.mbaangue9147 2 года назад +2

      @@ce3540 She had.

    • @michaelwatson5722
      @michaelwatson5722 2 года назад +8

      @@williamrocha4069 she might of had nodules at 6, but nodules can and do heal especially when you're young and growing.
      There are no signs of nodules from Mariah from 1990-95.

    • @williamrocha4069
      @williamrocha4069 2 года назад +2

      @@michaelwatson5722 so she could've the nodules, than healed and the had again?

  • @minhkhoiphan1406
    @minhkhoiphan1406 2 года назад +9

    you are so right, that is why I love Emotions era

  • @VOM27
    @VOM27 2 года назад +7

    5:15 I love when Emotionsriah uses a more nasal placement to give that jazz/blues sounding to her voice.

  • @jonathan_8100
    @jonathan_8100 2 года назад +3

    7:45 the resonance! Its ringing in my ear, incredible notes.

  • @sir3958
    @sir3958 2 года назад +21

    1990-1993
    lol there was really no change sus literally walked in a star class vocalist & got better at singing.
    That’s really all it was💀 it truly confuses my why people act so dramatic about her vocal prowess in early years leading to her mature years

    • @strangerthings88
      @strangerthings88 2 года назад +8

      Omg THANK YOU the obsession is just ridiculous like damn

    • @VOM27
      @VOM27 2 года назад +5

      That’s why people need to see the video before writing shit.

    • @pmalkan0829
      @pmalkan0829 2 года назад +2

      There was a subtle change and refinement of her technique that made a huge difference imo

    • @sir3958
      @sir3958 2 года назад +5

      @@pmalkan0829 lol umm you’re right 💀💀💀 yet that is almost verbatim what I said.
      However again no there was relatively no change in her voice just progression. Sis literally got better at singing…. That would mean refinement, better breath control, better technique

    • @pmalkan0829
      @pmalkan0829 2 года назад

      @@sir3958 I just put it more eloquently you're welcome ❤️

  • @Lambs4lyf
    @Lambs4lyf 2 года назад +5

    Omg i love this video it shows the difference between a chesty and heady mixed belt very clearly

  • @ChristianDixie11
    @ChristianDixie11 Год назад +1

    Emotions was essentially a polished version of ‘debut’

  • @maryhaunny944
    @maryhaunny944 2 года назад +8

    My vocal rating for her:
    1.) 1992 (but we don’t know unplugged undubbed 😬)
    2.) 1993 & 1991
    3.) 1995
    5.) 1990
    6.) 1996
    7.) 2003
    8.) 1997
    9.) 1998
    10.) 2010

  • @SpaceCond0r
    @SpaceCond0r 2 года назад +3

    Great video! I agree with a lot of the points you made. Although I think people need to stop trying argue over what her “prime” is. There are so many variables and factors that affect someone’s voice that it is impossible to boil it down to specific years.

  • @anghangin923
    @anghangin923 2 года назад +4

    Vocal fatigue and mental stress changed her tone in the butterfly and rainbow eras
    . She recovered during Glitter and Charmbracelet era but was overworked again in TEOM. If TEOM flopped, she could have kept the charmbracelet vocal for a decade at least.

    • @whitepaper5241
      @whitepaper5241 Год назад +1

      The thing is, TEOM was a massive success in 2005, and in that same year, her vocals were just as consistent as they were during Charmbracelet era. But she went on tour in 2006, knowing full well her voice was dry, raspy, tired and inconsistent. The only thing that makes her voice worse is the fact that she doesn't train her voice really well by hiring a vocal coach who can understand her current voice and all the potentials that she has with it.

  • @tasosGRvocals
    @tasosGRvocals 2 года назад +3

    Αmazing analysis, enjoyed every part of it!! I adore her voice in music box era!! Balanced in every sense of it!!

  • @PauloHenrique-ls5qy
    @PauloHenrique-ls5qy 2 года назад +13

    Her voice was sweeter in 1993

  • @imNotZack_
    @imNotZack_ 2 года назад +9

    7:06 just a sharp F#5

  • @whoevr
    @whoevr 2 года назад +1

    5:59 wow i don’t remember watching this performance. her outfit is so cool

  • @somespecies
    @somespecies 2 года назад

    Gosh these video transitions are so satisfying! haha

  • @ismaelm.mbaangue9147
    @ismaelm.mbaangue9147 2 года назад +2

    My Favs years from her vocally in the 90's:
    95> 92> 94> 93/96> 90/91/98> 97> 99.

  • @kingjames507
    @kingjames507 2 года назад +6

    the way she implements vibrato on her sustained notes is so eargasm to me idk maybe i’m weird

  • @MimiC_98
    @MimiC_98 Год назад

    THIS VIDEO IS A MASTERPIECE

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 2 года назад +7

    1993 is golden

  • @ilikepurple2938
    @ilikepurple2938 2 года назад +6

    I think 96---->97/98 transitions
    was not intended. They're more likely to be a consequence of vocal damage.

    • @regularwhitneyfanhatingonm5050
      @regularwhitneyfanhatingonm5050 2 года назад

      when she was under Motola, she wasn't able to drink and probably had to train everyday to sound perfect (and she did 99% of the time).
      It went downhill really fast because she didn't take care of her voice (or body), maybe because of her mental illness. It stills saddens me, because that man abused her to her limits and now she doesnt even bother to recover her gift

    • @VOM27
      @VOM27 2 года назад +4

      Vocal fatigue, not vocal damage

    • @MCsVoice97
      @MCsVoice97 2 года назад +4

      @@VOM27 of course damage, she never fully recovered, even though she had great moments after 97

    • @THEE.apples
      @THEE.apples 2 года назад +4

      @@VOM27 both

  • @frankbjr1250
    @frankbjr1250 2 года назад +1

    I think her peek is opinion. I love her slightly older voice where it has deep, rich tones. It’s just preference for us - and for me her being on this earth is prime.

  • @jadepatrick7644
    @jadepatrick7644 Год назад

    I would argue the debut 1990-94. And we have to take into account the "production" side. She also says herself Tommy intended to smooth her out to make her more mainstream. Pop singers typically sing with a moderately raised larynx ranging around 50/50 mix. Her nasal has always been on point, to me. I can't help but imagine tommy requiring her to some strict vocal coaching which probably was miserable but helped her stamina.

  • @pedromurilo1050
    @pedromurilo1050 2 года назад +1

    The channel Black Music Archive once did a video showing how she was inconsistent above Eb5 from 1990 to 1992. She used to sing a heavier R&B (just like Patti, Aretha and Whitney) but in 1993 she started to sing in a more pop way, with a lighter, softer voice. I think it was way healthier for her

    • @rosemont2283
      @rosemont2283 2 года назад +2

      That channel is not good at analyzing people’s voices.

    • @pedromurilo1050
      @pedromurilo1050 2 года назад +2

      @@rosemont2283 I think it is great and accurated, but anyway, each one with it's opinions.

    • @odumosuolusegun2781
      @odumosuolusegun2781 2 года назад

      @@pedromurilo1050 it is not good. If singing light was good for her why is it that it lasted just a year and in 1997, her voice became thin, raspy and nasal?she over brightened her voice and constricted it

    • @pedromurilo1050
      @pedromurilo1050 2 года назад +1

      @@odumosuolusegun2781 I will try to explain you. Bright tone does not necessarily means constricted voice. She actually got some extra comfort in her high range. What actually happened it's emotional damage. She was going through a divorce in late 1996 and she started recording the Butterfly album in january 1997, and her voice was good still. It's got throaty in late 1997 and got worse with the Butterfly Tour + recordind Rainbow + Rainbow Tour + recording the soundtrack and making Glitter + problems with label, movie extreme flop, death of her father, break up with her boyfriend + family feud + mental breakdown

  • @malou1563
    @malou1563 2 года назад +1

    0:32 that f#4 is resonant as hell

  • @jadepatrick7644
    @jadepatrick7644 Год назад +1

    Respectfully, i think you're confusing raised larynx with nasality. It shouldn't be a crutch but nasality (I'm moderation) bridges the chest voice to head voice. It also can cancel out difficult consonants and glottals that normally pause airflow while singing

  • @michaelwatson5722
    @michaelwatson5722 2 года назад +2

    She was just as chesty during music box
    Her technique was just more refined

  • @jake_thefox4675
    @jake_thefox4675 2 года назад +2

    do a video abt 1994-1997 pls 😍

  • @adolfovigil2348
    @adolfovigil2348 2 года назад +1

    Llegué temprano 😄

  • @kijanayoung2000
    @kijanayoung2000 2 года назад +5

    In 1992 the lows were not impressive in that If It's Over Performance
    The lows were the most troubled. She couldn't support them. And she used a low larynx on them.
    The belts are incredible as obvious
    The whistle was airy the way it would be in 1996
    When Mariah's belts work well, her whistles and lows usually don't.

    • @odumosuolusegun2781
      @odumosuolusegun2781 2 года назад +9

      Thank you for telling them and again, using one performance to prove a point is stupid. 3ven in 1990 and 91, there is are performances like Cant let go at arse4nio hall that shows amazing technique,.; I think pivoting Mariah on just some If it over performance is very reductive. It just proves she never really sang live convincingly. I think Lambs should start showcasing other performances that were equally good. I already knew that this video was going to pivot itself around If its over. smdh. It is over played and old

    • @kijanayoung2000
      @kijanayoung2000 2 года назад

      @@odumosuolusegun2781 I 100% agree

    • @SeanMichael1992
      @SeanMichael1992 11 месяцев назад

      @@odumosuolusegun2781a year later and I agree

  • @motivateprofit
    @motivateprofit 2 года назад +1

    i believe years 1992 and 1993 were her best vocal years ever and NOT 1996. Those years had the perfect mix voice and sounded her most natural unlike 1996. And her Grammys 1992 and music box tour proved that. super consistent too

  • @usedtobe1197
    @usedtobe1197 2 года назад +3

    1993 pra mim é o melhor timbre dela!!!!

  • @noncatholiccatholicrat6309
    @noncatholiccatholicrat6309 2 года назад +1

    ok but what about her merry Christmas era??? that was almost as good

  • @Venusencarnate
    @Venusencarnate 2 года назад

    Do a part 2 for her buttetfly fly era to nowdays

  • @whitneyhouston1122
    @whitneyhouston1122 Год назад +1

    Personally I felt like 1993-1996 was more of her prime.

  • @usedtobe1197
    @usedtobe1197 2 года назад +13

    Faça a transição da era Glitte para a era Charmbracelet! Na tour de 2003 ouve uma nítida evolução de voz entre julho de 2003 á dezembro de 2003

    • @FranciscoNS1992
      @FranciscoNS1992 2 года назад

      YESSSSSSS

    • @pedromurilo1050
      @pedromurilo1050 2 года назад

      É muito bom porque na era Glitter ela teve um colapso mental e estava com a voz desgastada graças à turnê Rainbow. Charmbracelet é dado por muitos como o verdadeiro vocal prime dela. Muito consistente, cada registro vocal estava no ponto.

  • @vitaliscarey
    @vitaliscarey 2 года назад +2

    1993 was great 👌

  • @Mommyyriah
    @Mommyyriah 4 месяца назад +1

    4:10 this performance was from 1993

  • @benw3864
    @benw3864 2 года назад +4

    Her voice after 92 into 93 gained a lot of weight too because it was changing. Your voice matures all the way through your 30s, so that super thin tone she had between 90 and 92 was also something she probably grew out of. We know this because over the entirety of her career her voice has always added on more and more weight as time has gone on. Even without purposefully changing her technique (because Mimi in reality hasn't changed her technique since the mid-90s as her voice has naturally gotten heavier with age which is her biggest downfall), her voice became a lot heavier and deeper as seen with how her voice gained more bulk from 97 through Charm.

    • @tonnymitch4016
      @tonnymitch4016 7 месяцев назад

      She didn’t have a super thin tone in 90-92.. her voice was more heavy and deeper compared to 93-96

  • @maryhaunny944
    @maryhaunny944 2 года назад +5

    Answer: Her vocal cords got thinner as the years went on and her technique and tone changed because of it
    I love the lambily but y’all are so extra coming up with these theories and shiiit y’all think her voice sounds better as time went on because her cords got thinner and she had a lighter sound that’s it. Let me sleep now 😴

    • @onedollarbleach6891
      @onedollarbleach6891 2 года назад +1

      Your chords don’t thin in the span of 3 years when ur in ur early 20’s……

    • @quannguyen1381
      @quannguyen1381 Год назад

      ​@@onedollarbleach6891With the BIG help of nodules make it thin faster than kardashians on ozempic

  • @carlcarey327
    @carlcarey327 2 года назад +1

    Can you change your intro music? Its been ages 😫

  • @ISANJEEVME
    @ISANJEEVME 2 года назад

    Just read somewhere' move ahead'. Does it make sense.

  • @skip031890
    @skip031890 2 года назад +1

    And I was dDrifftaAAAAAAAAAAnnnn!

  • @SinfulCadence
    @SinfulCadence 2 года назад +1

    2:15 love is what really gave it away on first listen
    The crazy part is it actually sounds and looks more impressive on daydream mariah, than the actual Tokyo vocals. 😳
    6:53 sounded like a different person 😂

  • @shikaii9912
    @shikaii9912 2 года назад

    0:32 I literally head Whitney

  • @AnonymousXtinaSinger
    @AnonymousXtinaSinger 2 года назад +2

    Music Box was great vocally. But my unpopular opinion is that MB is the most inconsistent era out of the 4 eras from 90-96. I know it's hard to tell because she didn't tour for Debut and Emotions. But the 93 part of MB was really good for lows, mids and whistles. 94 was a little rough. Personally I feel like Emotions era and Daydream were just more consistent in every register than MB.

    • @ce3540
      @ce3540 2 года назад +10

      I disagree with you in Music Box era being the most inconsistent in terms of technique. As this video mentioned her technical problems in the Debut era were with overdrive-ish belts along with less vocal freedom on certain notes, while in Music Box era, she did a better job/the best job she has done in her career with singing as free with minimal/unnecessary tension as much as possible. Her technique was the most refined in 1993. Her lows were good, her mid-belts were the best, and her upper-belts were the best it had been along with her upper-belts in Daydream. Even in the tour when she encountered some choices while sick, for instance with dodging and vocal changes, her technique was still the most polished, and was as polished as it was in earlier promotional performances. In 1994, the performances she did were definitely not as good as the ones in 1993. Her upper-belts weren't as consistent. In Daydream era, her upper-belts are more consistent and she sang a lot of good upper-belts in performances/concerts, but her voice started to be introduced to unnecessary tensions like tense, thin, and squeezed notes. Her voice started to encounter problems like these in some performances in 1994. Her voice in Emotions era was the most polished after Music Box era, but still dealt with some problems she faced pre-1993 with technique and her technique as a whole-era wasn't as consistent as 1993, as you can see with what TQOL pointed out in this video.

    • @AnonymousXtinaSinger
      @AnonymousXtinaSinger 2 года назад +2

      @@ce3540 I shouldn't have mentioned her debut in my comment because she was trying to figure out her voice in a live setting. But I didn't necessarily mean her technique, but her overall voice and registers. Her technique during MB was very clean and I feel it set her at vocalist status instead of just a great singer. So I agree with you there. But I feel that Emotions era, overall, had more consistency from bottom to top. I can't see MB era performing If Its Over like the Grammys performance. Above E5 (and sometimes D5) was pretty inconsistent for MB. Emotions era, she displayed power AND range in her belts effortlessly. Her lows were really strong, and whistles were actually neck and neck. MB era low and Mid belts and clarity were the highlight of the era, but to me, that's really about it. 95-96 may not have had the lows like MB, or didn't focus as much on whistles, but the clarity, fluidity, RESONANCE, And upper belts were on point 90 percent of the time.

    • @michaelwatson5722
      @michaelwatson5722 2 года назад +6

      @@AnonymousXtinaSinger using "if it's over" as an example is not good idea because the Grammys is the only time she sang that song successfully.
      All the other performances of that song have rough, tense, and strained vocals.
      Her lows, belts, hv and whistles were all good during music box. She was consistent up till F5. She also had the least amount of pitch issues compared to all the other eras.

    • @odumosuolusegun2781
      @odumosuolusegun2781 2 года назад +5

      @@michaelwatson5722 Thank you. I HATE THAT THEY PIVOT EVERYTHING around one performance as if she did not sing as good in 91, her can't let go at Arsenio hall is underrated

  • @whoevr
    @whoevr 2 года назад

    nice plot twist s’skss

  • @Thesongbirdsupreme
    @Thesongbirdsupreme 2 года назад

    0:19 meow?

  • @eDryden97
    @eDryden97 2 года назад

    I’m dead we don’t speak of 97 (1:44) hehe

  • @jeromeesguerra2727
    @jeromeesguerra2727 2 года назад

    song of intro