63 catches for 628 yds? No way Odunze averages only 10 yds a reception. JSN was in the slot for Waldron last year which is why he averaged that low per reception.
Can't solve every problem in one off-season guys. I wish they went inside out too but thats just not where the best opportunities were. Solve it for next year and we're set!
Oooorrrrr...have competition like every other team...if Nate keep doing what he's doing why not get someone in there that's going to be there..he's not a pro bowler..
I don’t know/ according to ESPN analytics per Mina Kines, the Bears OL ranked 2nd in the NFL in run block win rate and 5th in the NFL in pass block win rate last season. Shelton and Bates are an upgrade over Patrick and Whitehair. Not having Fields in the pocket causing extra sacks will make the OL look better to the eye. It can’t be stressed enough how bad Fields is in the pocket.
@paulieprinceton4550 1st, you have to know blocking schemes on play calls. 2nd you have down and distance vs defense calls. Last, the eye test- we had a play where the whole left side pulled and we got blown up. The problem with analytics is they have +/- gained without the knowledge of play design called. We haven't had a solid Center for years and the interior OL has been oft injured. It wasn't till the last 6/7 weeks we had 4/5ths our starting OL. It's gonna be a wait and see before we get chemistry on OL. OL is like a choreography dance of big men.
They don’t have enough money for more players because Caleb’s dad is trying to get OVER $45mil rookie contract fully guaranteed, Caleb’s dad is going to be a problem with Caleb’s contracts & his dad is the one that wanted a % of the team that drafts him, he’s an idiot & will be a pain in their asses now & future 🤔🤔🤔
I still don’t think this defense is legit. They beat up on bad offenses/QB’s who don’t push the needle. This is still a 6/7 win team in my opinion. I need to see it to believe it.
Detroit, top 5. They are a bad offense? Held GB to only 17, at home, without their top CB. They were 7-10 last year, with a worse WR core,QB and o-line, I mean, don’t overthink this bruh. They are legit.
Bears were a top 5 defense analytically after Sweat and Eberflus started calling plays. The defense was the top scoring unit in the NFL during this stretch. Some of it also was the better health. I’m pretty sure the Bears played a game with their top 3 CB’s and both starting safety’s out.
We need another legitimate DEFENSIVE END to pair with Sweat that will also allow Walker to kick inside more often. I'm so sick of this franchise and it's media schmucks trying to sell us on a bunch UDFAs, scrap heap FAs, and late round "potential" players. We all already know how this is going to go again, and again and again every year. STOP wasting your breaths trying to convince us all that the Bears putting all of the eggs in one basket with only one standout DEFENSIVE END is going to carry the defense. Its not going to. The defense needs another difference maker DE to help overcome the fact that the Bears have a sh!tty Head Coach who resume has absolutely NOTHING that proves he.should be a Head Coach. Not one thing. When Bears media has to resort to hinting that Matt Eberflus will lead the Bears to contender status because he can bench press 300 pounds and also grew a beard, your HC probably fcking SUCKS. Ryan Poles turned JIM HARBAUGH away TWICE so that he could hire and keep Matt Eberflus. That is such a bad moronic move that it's almost hilarious. I'm with the rest of the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the fanbase that aren't spending another dime on the Bears until they build some other than another new GREEN BAY doormat and stop trying to constantly treat their paying customers as though they're clueless and lowly fans. After 35 years of buying the BEARS/MCCASKEYS circus, I AINT DRINKING SH!T anymore until this franchise finally PROVES that they are annual WINNERS that represent the HEART AND SOUL market of the NFL instead of the usual MCCASKEY popcorn stand.
The head coach hasn't proven anything other than he can call defenses and neither has the offensive line. It's gonna be a problem this year and someone needs to ask Flus If he has a plan to stop Green Bay. Rook QB gonna be running for his life
According to ESPN analytics per Mina Kines in a livestream about rookie QB’s a few weeks ago, the Bears OL this past season ranked 2nd in the NFL in run block win rate and 5th in the NFL in pass block win rate. Maybe they are not that good this upcoming season, but they didn’t lose anyone important and upgraded with Shelton and Bates over Patrick and Whitehair. Justin Fields is so bad in the pocket and causing so many additional sacks and hits he has people believing the OL was bad.
@@paulieprinceton4550 Watch all the games last year and forget about ESPN 'analytics' esp because of fields taking off. And that head coach is notorious for not having them prepared the first five games. Bates is more of a guard than a center yet it's a competition. There is zero depth at all on the O-line. All of them no-names.+ They dont practice.
Shelton and Waldron have history and he knows the system. It’s not that difficult. Shelton has years of being a starter as well. Pickens and Dexter will never be close to the player Jalen carter is
Excellent Bears commentary and solid takes on this team.
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63 catches for 628 yds? No way Odunze averages only 10 yds a reception. JSN was in the slot for Waldron last year which is why he averaged that low per reception.
Jahnsie, they were dropping passes left and right on JF1!! 😂 No comparison!! Look at the fuckin targets Caleb has, ALL vets!
Can't solve every problem in one off-season guys. I wish they went inside out too but thats just not where the best opportunities were. Solve it for next year and we're set!
How often will Waldron call 2 and 3 TE plays to give Caleb good protection, especially if our center and RG positions suck.
He’s runs a ton of that if you watch Seattle from last year
Hoge is back! Well done. Covering in depth. If these guys are concerned , i’m concerned.
Oooorrrrr...have competition like every other team...if Nate keep doing what he's doing why not get someone in there that's going to be there..he's not a pro bowler..
I didn't like what we failed to do with IOL/C. We gotta go heavy on both lines next draft. Not necessarily at the top but for depth and development.
I don’t know/ according to ESPN analytics per Mina Kines, the Bears OL ranked 2nd in the NFL in run block win rate and 5th in the NFL in pass block win rate last season. Shelton and Bates are an upgrade over Patrick and Whitehair. Not having Fields in the pocket causing extra sacks will make the OL look better to the eye. It can’t be stressed enough how bad Fields is in the pocket.
@paulieprinceton4550 1st, you have to know blocking schemes on play calls. 2nd you have down and distance vs defense calls. Last, the eye test- we had a play where the whole left side pulled and we got blown up. The problem with analytics is they have +/- gained without the knowledge of play design called. We haven't had a solid Center for years and the interior OL has been oft injured. It wasn't till the last 6/7 weeks we had 4/5ths our starting OL. It's gonna be a wait and see before we get chemistry on OL. OL is like a choreography dance of big men.
Play it out with who we have
I'm still not drinking the kool-aid until I see a above 500 season
If now isn’t the time for unbridled optimism, I don’t know when is!
…never. It’s time to see some results
Be vulnerable. Join us. It’s fun over here.
The Bears will never lose another game. In fact, most of their opponents will forfeit by halftime!!!
Fair.
Gervon "The Orc" Dexter
So Hoge you really believe that Ryan Poles just forgot about the center position, really.
Can they win more than 8 games even with the 3rd easiest schedule
UGH!!! NEITHER of you know that was ZZ Top?!?!?!?
A perfect fathers day involves no golf. Not driving by a course, hearing about it on the radio, or seeing any mention of it.
They don’t have enough money for more players because Caleb’s dad is trying to get OVER $45mil rookie contract fully guaranteed, Caleb’s dad is going to be a problem with Caleb’s contracts & his dad is the one that wanted a % of the team that drafts him, he’s an idiot & will be a pain in their asses now & future 🤔🤔🤔
How do u question if 2 players picked last year are “bad draft picks” you guys really struggle with this job.
I still don’t think this defense is legit. They beat up on bad offenses/QB’s who don’t push the needle. This is still a 6/7 win team in my opinion. I need to see it to believe it.
Detroit, top 5. They are a bad offense? Held GB to only 17, at home, without their top CB. They were 7-10 last year, with a worse WR core,QB and o-line, I mean, don’t overthink this bruh. They are legit.
Bears were a top 5 defense analytically after Sweat and Eberflus started calling plays. The defense was the top scoring unit in the NFL during this stretch. Some of it also was the better health. I’m pretty sure the Bears played a game with their top 3 CB’s and both starting safety’s out.
We need another legitimate DEFENSIVE END to pair with Sweat that will also allow Walker to kick inside more often. I'm so sick of this franchise and it's media schmucks trying to sell us on a bunch UDFAs, scrap heap FAs, and late round "potential" players. We all already know how this is going to go again, and again and again every year. STOP wasting your breaths trying to convince us all that the Bears putting all of the eggs in one basket with only one standout DEFENSIVE END is going to carry the defense. Its not going to. The defense needs another difference maker DE to help overcome the fact that the Bears have a sh!tty Head Coach who resume has absolutely NOTHING that proves he.should be a Head Coach. Not one thing. When Bears media has to resort to hinting that Matt Eberflus will lead the Bears to contender status because he can bench press 300 pounds and also grew a beard, your HC probably fcking SUCKS. Ryan Poles turned JIM HARBAUGH away TWICE so that he could hire and keep Matt Eberflus. That is such a bad moronic move that it's almost hilarious. I'm with the rest of the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the fanbase that aren't spending another dime on the Bears until they build some other than another new GREEN BAY doormat and stop trying to constantly treat their paying customers as though they're clueless and lowly fans. After 35 years of buying the BEARS/MCCASKEYS circus, I AINT DRINKING SH!T anymore until this franchise finally PROVES that they are annual WINNERS that represent the HEART AND SOUL market of the NFL instead of the usual MCCASKEY popcorn stand.
Nate Davis is the problem. Probably needs to go.
Yall way off. Rome will be the number 1 wr on this team. He's that good
I've honestly been thinking this more and more. Rome is #1 and leads in yards but DJ is the big play merchant and leads in TDs.
The community already has its excuse. Let’s go!
The head coach hasn't proven anything other than he can call defenses and neither has the offensive line. It's gonna be a problem this year and someone needs to ask Flus If he has a plan to stop Green Bay. Rook QB gonna be running for his life
I find it funny that flus grows a beard and everybody forgets that he’s a very unproven coach
According to ESPN analytics per Mina Kines in a livestream about rookie QB’s a few weeks ago, the Bears OL this past season ranked 2nd in the NFL in run block win rate and 5th in the NFL in pass block win rate. Maybe they are not that good this upcoming season, but they didn’t lose anyone important and upgraded with Shelton and Bates over Patrick and Whitehair. Justin Fields is so bad in the pocket and causing so many additional sacks and hits he has people believing the OL was bad.
@@paulieprinceton4550 Watch all the games last year and forget about ESPN 'analytics' esp because of fields taking off. And that head coach is notorious for not having them prepared the first five games. Bates is more of a guard than a center yet it's a competition. There is zero depth at all on the O-line. All of them no-names.+ They dont practice.
Shelton and Waldron have history and he knows the system. It’s not that difficult. Shelton has years of being a starter as well. Pickens and Dexter will never be close to the player Jalen carter is