I really hope Brown simplifies the offense like how Kingsbury is doing in Washington. I don’t care how it looks as long as Caleb develops and the Bears actually score touchdowns.
I don't know if it has to be simplified. It just has to be not stupid. Basic principles done right... Not necessarily simple because that implies Caleb can't handle it. The issue is the plays are both dumb and predictable. When we run more classic stuff, it works. Get under center, run it, and occasionally play action, roll out, hit some slants. Not exactly simple but get those basics right.
I really enjoyed the segment with Nate Tice. That was very informative and I appreciated his insights into the offense. It's also very apparent that Caleb is playing tentatively. Let him make mistakes, throw some picks, take some chances and shots at big plays and let's get this thing rolling.
He used to work for the falcons and raiders. I think the fact he’s in the media and doesn’t get punished for being wrong is why it looks weird he doesn’t work in the NFL given his credentials. He’s also the son of Mike Tice former NFL coach.
79-88 The Bears not only were competent but they drafted well, coached well, played lights out, and beat the packers all the time. What are you even talking about. I was born 81. I can say this but you sir are full of it. I been a fan since 2004. Lovie was okay but those teams were flash in pan for the most part. Never found their way on offense.
Wasn't for a lack of trying. The big change our buffoon of a head Coach wanted was to move waldron up in the booth. So this was a Poles firing. Just fire eberlose. Man what are we doing here
That’s a reach imo given the evidence we currently have. At least with Tomlin, he had several years as a successful coordinator/position coach in Tampa/Minnesota before taking the Pittsburgh gig.
@Budget-n7o I'm just saying he has been a longtime college and NFL coach in various positions. NOBODY was going to succeed in Carolina last year and you know that. I SAID Mike Tomlin vibes. I DIDN'T say their resumes are identical. Relax.
I believe they are 1000% coaching his creativity out of him and making him scared to throw an INT. Also him being mentored from Brady maybe making him stay in the pocket completely.
If the defense can bring their A+ game, they can rattle Jordan Love. The Packers are far from unbeatable. The offense & Caleb has to get back to scoring 23-30pts. to do it though.
Poles has had as many bad moves as good ones. Claypool, Davis, Velus Jones, not drafting o-line talent, thinking this roster was good enough to draft a punter in the fourth round. He’s been pretty bad overall. Add in not firing Eberflus last year. He’s a guy who has a tough time moving on from poor decisions. Can’t have that mindset as a GM.
When Tice was talking about which receivers were going to block, I just can't help but think a real leader and head coach would be able to get through guys and get them to do their jobs. You think Eberflus was ever a guy to do that? You think Dan Cambell has a problem telling his receivers to do that if they believe in him?
Never been more dejected in my 40 years as a Bears fan, watching my 8 year old go through makes it even more unnerving. I hope the QB makes it. F the Bears
Opposing defenses know the snap count. All they gotta do is wait till there's half a second left on the play clock because THAT'S when the Bears finally snap it!😂😂
Turnover battle should be out the window since we’ve lost the last 2 games in blowout fashion after winning the turnover battle. Flus has lost the locker room
I will die laughing 🤣 if Thomas Brown gets team rolling on offense and the players love him and he becomes HC next year what’s the odds of this Adam or Adam
Absolute coaching malpractice. Glad Waldron is out of the building. Thomas Brown implemented a lot of what Nate is talking about when he took over in Carolina. Bryce looked significantly better and nearly knocked off the Packers in that late season game.
He's sayin it clear...it's the offensive scheme or lack there of. They are ruining CW ! Williams will not become great without great coaching ! Nix is a game manager that simple, team is great around him
@spaceghost8995 and yet they did nothing for 3 years and expected the team to win this year. You cannot win if the OL is trash. Most of the starters were unreliable or backup/replacement level players. And expected them to protect a rookie qb.
Flus. He's responsible for hiring his own staff, which is crazy to think there has now been 8 members of his staff that either resigned or were fired the past 14 months, but yet flus still has a job.
i am starting to worry that kiran amegadjie is another tev jenkins. he is super talented but the dude cant stay healthy. he got his big chance to start after being injured for a year and immediately got hurt At this point, i dont believe in any of our Olineman. I thought kiran could play LG, Wright could play RG and bates could play center. then, you go and draft/sign 2 new tackles next year.
The competition between rookie QBs is a worthless narrative. Feeding that click-bait conversation shows that you are not serious about the team and more bent towards the QB fan boys who like to pretend that this is any kind of issue for the Bears. It is strictly media fodder and does not help our rookie QB at all. Who cares who is better? It's a team sport.
The Claypool Trade and it's not even close. Come on you actually gave up draft capital a second round one at that. Nate Davis has been in the league it was a free agent signing who actually had talent and upside how was Poles going to predict injuries and a life-changing event like him losing his mother you guys can be inhuman at times mentally and emotionally that type of tragedy can allow someone to totally check out. How are we to know if Nate Davis is ever the same again. Unlike Claypool Nate Davis was not known to be a cancer in the locker room Claypool has all the talent in the world, but was traded from Pittsburgh because of his superficial attitude which has now had him traded a few times since Nate Davis did have questions about maybe his passion for the game, but he was never a cancer to the locker room I just think a combination of tragedy and injury maybe took a toll on the man's emotional stability and hunger to play football. Are people also forgetting that Chicago was not and maybe still isn't a desirable place for the top free agents to come join actually Poles may be helping that by trading players like Justin and roquan to winning organizations where they actually wanted to go, by actually sticking by a player who's going through tragedy like Nate Davis instead of just looking at him as an asset actually showing emotion and Care like he did for the one player they had to cut doing training camp players see those things and actually think now that's an organization that cares about their players. I love how the media just comfortably forgets that the Bears are not a desired place to come especially with their history and the weather doesn't help Ryan actually tried to go after a lot of big name free agents on the offensive and defensive line players like Danielle Hunter and The Center I believe his name is Lloyd cushenberry, but one chose to go home the other chose to go to a warmer climate and a place that offered more money so that's Ryan's fault as well how about adding a little bit of context instead of just finger pointing at every decision that's being made and this is coming from someone who can be very critical of certain moves that Ryan has made or has not made, but I do understand what he inherited and it wasn't good by any means you guys are acting like the mccaskey's this is not the charted franchise that everyone loves that's probably why they had to pay a little extra to a player like DeAndre Swift who the New York Giants also wanted this off-season if we're going to be "reporters and Sports writers" let's give more contexts, details, and factual information to our analysis gentleman.
To me it's always hit or miss when signing a free agent because you don't know the motivation of that player it is not like when you draft a player when you're doing background checks on the kid from as early as his high school days
Davis had the bad reputation coming in for not wanting to practice in Tennessee. Vrable said so, but poles ignored that. Most people gave Davis a pass last year because of the death in family, but not this year. He's a professional. At this point, he's just stealing money
@sophisticatedthoughts...1638 By your reasoning we shouldn't have hired Eric Washington who Vrabel worked with. I would take a former player observation on player that I am signing in free agency. He had all the information and choose to ignore like the offensive line.
@@slicksophistication517 I swear to God reading comprehension is everything. Stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room and actually read and comprehend things. How in the hell does one particular opinion point to someone's overall reasoning buddy? I simply stated that his former coaches opinion about his desire should not be the overall determining factor into whether or not you sign a player. By your reasoning any player with any red flags or anything being said negative about them should not be traded for, drafted or signed in free agency right. Please explain to me why would any franchise want to draft Jalen Carter knowing he was possibly involved in two people dying can't get any worse than that yet he was a top 10 draft pick, he also had questions about how much he loved the game,but because the GM unlike you has to factor in other variables then just the red flags that come with that player. Why did the New York Jets invest in Aaron Rodgers a player getting older coming off of an injury who is known to be aloof and self-centered at times? Why did Tom Brady and Tampa Bay Buccaneers give a contract to Antonio Brown who is known to be a disruption in the locker room and a very self-centered player? We can do this all day long so now you're going to sit here and tell me Nate Davis was the only questionable player that has been signed by a team that has had red flags or has had a coach or player say something negative about them. That argument is almost a waste of time, also all you geniuses fail to realize whoever said Nate Davis was Ryan's first option you can want to sign as many players as you want they have to want to come to your franchise. Danielle Hunter is the perfect example that I used as well in my comment that you evidently purposely skipped over so that you can try to zero in on an opinion and make it my "thought process" or "logic" which is what reason it is Ryan Poles made an offer to Danielle Hunter that was reported to be equally the same as the Texans do you know Danielle chose the Texans because he is from Texas that seems to go over all you people who know everything heads. I say that to say this at the time a starting Right Guard was needed I don't believe that Nate Davis was His first option, however the position still needed to be filled Nate Davis fit the scheme that the Bears were running at the time and he was still I believe only 26 years of age so even if he did have some bad habits it's possible that this player still had room to grow you're arguing with me and the GM of the Chicago Bears evidently thought the same so why don't you send him a message questioning his reasoning because he's the one that made the signing all I'm doing is giving context to what actually happened that seems to be above your comprehension and I'm not even trying to be disrespectful, but when you half ass read my original comment and and then act like I'm wrong when Ryan Poles himself actually did what I stated buy giving him a contract so by his reasoning he does not agree with you do you think that Ryan didn't get that same information he evaluated the situation for himself and chose to give that player a chance to prove himself I never once said it was the right decision I was just giving context to why the decision was made.
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Wow! Nate Tice is amazing! He's puts forth such a nice blend of football acumen and positivity. Thanks for having him as a guest, again, Adams.
This moment will forever be known as the Thomas Brown Affair.
What can Brown do for you
I really hope Brown simplifies the offense like how Kingsbury is doing in Washington. I don’t care how it looks as long as Caleb develops and the Bears actually score touchdowns.
I don't know if it has to be simplified. It just has to be not stupid. Basic principles done right... Not necessarily simple because that implies Caleb can't handle it. The issue is the plays are both dumb and predictable. When we run more classic stuff, it works. Get under center, run it, and occasionally play action, roll out, hit some slants. Not exactly simple but get those basics right.
Nate Tice gave a lot of good insight, great guest.
I really enjoyed the segment with Nate Tice. That was very informative and I appreciated his insights into the offense. It's also very apparent that Caleb is playing tentatively. Let him make mistakes, throw some picks, take some chances and shots at big plays and let's get this thing rolling.
Nate Tice is an elite offense evaluator. Why has no one poached him? Even for their analytics department?
He used to work for the falcons and raiders. I think the fact he’s in the media and doesn’t get punished for being wrong is why it looks weird he doesn’t work in the NFL given his credentials. He’s also the son of Mike Tice former NFL coach.
Great stuff...love when you guys have Nate on
wow!! i was looking for exactly ‘that’ guy. Thanks guys.. great show
I've been a Bear's fan since 75 i just want a competent football team once in my lifetime 🐻⬇️
Hey, at least you lived through 85, might be all you get 😅
Since 1970 for me, so I lived through Justin Fields 1.0 AKA Bobby Douglas.
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you've had several but i get what you are saying
79-88
The Bears not only were competent but they drafted well, coached well, played lights out, and beat the packers all the time. What are you even talking about. I was born 81. I can say this but you sir are full of it.
I been a fan since 2004. Lovie was okay but those teams were flash in pan for the most part. Never found their way on offense.
Just a supposition, let’s say Thomas Brown makes improvements in the Bears offense and Caleb’s development. Does he take the HC position?
It'd have to be pretty good, which I can't really imagine
Wasn't for a lack of trying. The big change our buffoon of a head Coach wanted was to move waldron up in the booth. So this was a Poles firing. Just fire eberlose. Man what are we doing here
Flus stays. Bench Caleb. Play Bagent. Win football games.😊
@@NOTREALLYHANKAARON Eberflus was 10-24 going into this season, 14-29 now, but yeah Caleb is the problem
@@Ep1cRainbow Caleb is the problem. Who next getting fired? Wats WOKEY POLES record?
Once again, Nate Tice is THE guest.
I get Mike Tomlin vibes from Thomas Brown. Maybe he should be our next coach. Tomlin was mostly unknown before Pittsburgh.
That’s a reach imo given the evidence we currently have. At least with Tomlin, he had several years as a successful coordinator/position coach in Tampa/Minnesota before taking the Pittsburgh gig.
@Budget-n7o Thomas Brown does too.
@@spaceghost8995 when has Thomas brown been a successful coordinator in the NFL?
@Budget-n7o I'm just saying he has been a longtime college and NFL coach in various positions. NOBODY was going to succeed in Carolina last year and you know that. I SAID Mike Tomlin vibes. I DIDN'T say their resumes are identical. Relax.
Might as well have been no change if they’re not firing Flus MINIMUM
I believe they are 1000% coaching his creativity out of him and making him scared to throw an INT.
Also him being mentored from Brady maybe making him stay in the pocket completely.
Nate Davis out now too.
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GOOD
If the defense can bring their A+ game, they can rattle Jordan Love. The Packers are far from unbeatable. The offense & Caleb has to get back to scoring 23-30pts. to do it though.
Billings is out. From what I see I think GB will rush for well over 200 yards.
Poles has had as many bad moves as good ones. Claypool, Davis, Velus Jones, not drafting o-line talent, thinking this roster was good enough to draft a punter in the fourth round. He’s been pretty bad overall. Add in not firing Eberflus last year. He’s a guy who has a tough time moving on from poor decisions. Can’t have that mindset as a GM.
Eliminate the DJ Moore, 1st round pick trade… Poles moves are mediocre at best.
When Tice was talking about which receivers were going to block, I just can't help but think a real leader and head coach would be able to get through guys and get them to do their jobs. You think Eberflus was ever a guy to do that? You think Dan Cambell has a problem telling his receivers to do that if they believe in him?
Never been more dejected in my 40 years as a Bears fan, watching my 8 year old go through makes it even more unnerving. I hope the QB makes it. F the Bears
Opposing defenses know the snap count. All they gotta do is wait till there's half a second left on the play clock because THAT'S when the Bears finally snap it!😂😂
My question is has Eberflus put his thumb on CW with the no INT at any cost stuff. I mean is he dogmatic with the "we must win the turnover battle"?
Turnover battle should be out the window since we’ve lost the last 2 games in blowout fashion after winning the turnover battle. Flus has lost the locker room
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Do you think the offensive strategy is limited by the OL? All the changes make sense, but can the OL work with those changes?
I will die laughing 🤣 if Thomas Brown gets team rolling on offense and the players love him and he becomes HC next year what’s the odds of this Adam or Adam
What is going on with Jaquan Brisker!??!!!??
so Nate Dogg can watch the tape and see all these flaws and the bears hired the Guy he's talking about... wow classic Bears
Justic for Mugs! George McCaskey is a giant chach
Absolute coaching malpractice. Glad Waldron is out of the building. Thomas Brown implemented a lot of what Nate is talking about when he took over in Carolina. Bryce looked significantly better and nearly knocked off the Packers in that late season game.
George McCaskey & his greed are the root of all the Bears problems.
And the McCaskey’s are murders
He's sayin it clear...it's the offensive scheme or lack there of. They are ruining CW ! Williams will not become great without great coaching ! Nix is a game manager that simple, team is great around him
The Bears always a day late and a dollar short
So are we starting a fire Poles hire Tice movement here or what?
Bears are more entertaining off the field then on the field
Stop saying he can handle all this he can’t or we wouldn’t be complaining about how much is on his plate
Fields singing with Cleveland this years 25....!!!.draft choice will double there team
Lots of changes! This will ensure a huuge win against packers and lions next 😂😂
No INTs is good. Any FUM?
Lots of sacks. That's on Caleb. Inaccurate throws. That's on Caleb. Fumble at the goal line. Caleb again. 🤣
Go get Brian Flores after the season ends with a the right OC
The change in the coaching staff wont reflect in the score. The packers will win convincingly
Caleb Williams is Brian Bosworth
Stupidity is nothing to laugh at, but 😄
@@jimsnyder6310.... Cult of personality... Fake, fabricated and entitled.... Nothing but hype at this point
There is no fixing this, keep pretending this OL isn't the key to the disfunction. You cannot run an NFL O with an OL that fails
It's not like they DON'T KNOW the O line is bad.
@spaceghost8995 and yet they did nothing for 3 years and expected the team to win this year.
You cannot win if the OL is trash. Most of the starters were unreliable or backup/replacement level players. And expected them to protect a rookie qb.
@@tric5122 Oh they did things but none of it worked. lol
This Oline consists of third stringers and backups right now…
@@N0t_p0p18 Captain Obvious checking in.
Who hired Waldron? Poles or Flus!
Flus. He's responsible for hiring his own staff, which is crazy to think there has now been 8 members of his staff that either resigned or were fired the past 14 months, but yet flus still has a job.
God Flus is incredibly trash and yet here we are still our head coach
Caleb gets people fired. Becuz he SUKS. 😂
@@NOTREALLYHANKAARON another crazy caleb troll lol
@skeeter1858 who? Where?
i am starting to worry that kiran amegadjie is another tev jenkins. he is super talented but the dude cant stay healthy. he got his big chance to start after being injured for a year and immediately got hurt
At this point, i dont believe in any of our Olineman.
I thought kiran could play LG, Wright could play RG and bates could play center.
then, you go and draft/sign 2 new tackles next year.
Ok
He should have been fired a long time ago. I could call better plays
then he did. The defense knew every play they ran.
I have 0 faith in anyone involved in the Bears
nate tice for HC
Nate Tice is a nepo baby
Fire flus
The competition between rookie QBs is a worthless narrative. Feeding that click-bait conversation shows that you are not serious about the team and more bent towards the QB fan boys who like to pretend that this is any kind of issue for the Bears. It is strictly media fodder and does not help our rookie QB at all. Who cares who is better? It's a team sport.
Now what ? another L.....
Nate with all due respect we're absolutely not worried about Maye lol
You traded the muscle now watch the cookie crumble 😂😂😂😂😂😂so Fields really was Superman 😭😭😭
The Claypool Trade and it's not even close. Come on you actually gave up draft capital a second round one at that. Nate Davis has been in the league it was a free agent signing who actually had talent and upside how was Poles going to predict injuries and a life-changing event like him losing his mother you guys can be inhuman at times mentally and emotionally that type of tragedy can allow someone to totally check out. How are we to know if Nate Davis is ever the same again. Unlike Claypool Nate Davis was not known to be a cancer in the locker room Claypool has all the talent in the world, but was traded from Pittsburgh because of his superficial attitude which has now had him traded a few times since Nate Davis did have questions about maybe his passion for the game, but he was never a cancer to the locker room I just think a combination of tragedy and injury maybe took a toll on the man's emotional stability and hunger to play football. Are people also forgetting that Chicago was not and maybe still isn't a desirable place for the top free agents to come join actually Poles may be helping that by trading players like Justin and roquan to winning organizations where they actually wanted to go, by actually sticking by a player who's going through tragedy like Nate Davis instead of just looking at him as an asset actually showing emotion and Care like he did for the one player they had to cut doing training camp players see those things and actually think now that's an organization that cares about their players. I love how the media just comfortably forgets that the Bears are not a desired place to come especially with their history and the weather doesn't help Ryan actually tried to go after a lot of big name free agents on the offensive and defensive line players like Danielle Hunter and The Center I believe his name is Lloyd cushenberry, but one chose to go home the other chose to go to a warmer climate and a place that offered more money so that's Ryan's fault as well how about adding a little bit of context instead of just finger pointing at every decision that's being made and this is coming from someone who can be very critical of certain moves that Ryan has made or has not made, but I do understand what he inherited and it wasn't good by any means you guys are acting like the mccaskey's this is not the charted franchise that everyone loves that's probably why they had to pay a little extra to a player like DeAndre Swift who the New York Giants also wanted this off-season if we're going to be "reporters and Sports writers" let's give more contexts, details, and factual information to our analysis gentleman.
To me it's always hit or miss when signing a free agent because you don't know the motivation of that player it is not like when you draft a player when you're doing background checks on the kid from as early as his high school days
Davis had the bad reputation coming in for not wanting to practice in Tennessee. Vrable said so, but poles ignored that. Most people gave Davis a pass last year because of the death in family, but not this year. He's a professional. At this point, he's just stealing money
@sophisticatedthoughts...1638 By your reasoning we shouldn't have hired Eric Washington who Vrabel worked with. I would take a former player observation on player that I am signing in free agency. He had all the information and choose to ignore like the offensive line.
@@slicksophistication517 I swear to God reading comprehension is everything. Stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room and actually read and comprehend things. How in the hell does one particular opinion point to someone's overall reasoning buddy? I simply stated that his former coaches opinion about his desire should not be the overall determining factor into whether or not you sign a player. By your reasoning any player with any red flags or anything being said negative about them should not be traded for, drafted or signed in free agency right. Please explain to me why would any franchise want to draft Jalen Carter knowing he was possibly involved in two people dying can't get any worse than that yet he was a top 10 draft pick, he also had questions about how much he loved the game,but because the GM unlike you has to factor in other variables then just the red flags that come with that player. Why did the New York Jets invest in Aaron Rodgers a player getting older coming off of an injury who is known to be aloof and self-centered at times? Why did Tom Brady and Tampa Bay Buccaneers give a contract to Antonio Brown who is known to be a disruption in the locker room and a very self-centered player? We can do this all day long so now you're going to sit here and tell me Nate Davis was the only questionable player that has been signed by a team that has had red flags or has had a coach or player say something negative about them. That argument is almost a waste of time, also all you geniuses fail to realize whoever said Nate Davis was Ryan's first option you can want to sign as many players as you want they have to want to come to your franchise. Danielle Hunter is the perfect example that I used as well in my comment that you evidently purposely skipped over so that you can try to zero in on an opinion and make it my "thought process" or "logic" which is what reason it is Ryan Poles made an offer to Danielle Hunter that was reported to be equally the same as the Texans do you know Danielle chose the Texans because he is from Texas that seems to go over all you people who know everything heads. I say that to say this at the time a starting Right Guard was needed I don't believe that Nate Davis was His first option, however the position still needed to be filled Nate Davis fit the scheme that the Bears were running at the time and he was still I believe only 26 years of age so even if he did have some bad habits it's possible that this player still had room to grow you're arguing with me and the GM of the Chicago Bears evidently thought the same so why don't you send him a message questioning his reasoning because he's the one that made the signing all I'm doing is giving context to what actually happened that seems to be above your comprehension and I'm not even trying to be disrespectful, but when you half ass read my original comment and and then act like I'm wrong when Ryan Poles himself actually did what I stated buy giving him a contract so by his reasoning he does not agree with you do you think that Ryan didn't get that same information he evaluated the situation for himself and chose to give that player a chance to prove himself I never once said it was the right decision I was just giving context to why the decision was made.
More 2 back sets. More 2 back sets. More 2 back sets. TOO EASY to key on 4 or 23 when their alone.