Cognitive Focus in Octagram | Season 18 Cognitive Mechanics Email Lectures | CS Joseph

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @Clover501
    @Clover501 11 месяцев назад +26

    *Cognitive Focus wheels*
    Soul Temple
    ENFPs and ISTJs: 24:04
    ESTPs and INFJs: 25:09
    Heart Temple
    ENTPs and ISFJs: 26:06
    ESFPs and INTJs: 26:58
    Mind Temple
    ESTJs and INFPs: 27:56
    ENFJs and ISTPs: 28:38
    Body Temple
    ESFJs and INTPs: 29:18
    ENTJs and ISFPs: 30:05

  • @fificore
    @fificore 11 месяцев назад +21

    How to be SD/SF:
    -Be born to rich or well-off parents.
    -Make sure they don't sabotage you.
    Delusion + Support = Success.

    • @Saavys
      @Saavys 11 месяцев назад

      @@otonashishiroushuuya4241😂

    • @H3XED_OwO
      @H3XED_OwO 11 месяцев назад +2

      that's what i got out of it lmao

    • @A54D3J
      @A54D3J 2 месяца назад

      lol I’m sdsf

  • @jojoqueenofswords932
    @jojoqueenofswords932 5 месяцев назад

    Hi Chase, I’m loving your work on Cognitive Focus and Development. I can split my life so far into 3 distinct phases. You are entirely right SDUF can get to SDSF but it looks more like SDU/SF. And no going back to childhood. The UF years have brought me a wealth of experiences and understanding and coupled with a renewed SF can bring real creativity and breakthrough. I need to grieve the losses though - I think that’s key.

  • @supremegentleman4276
    @supremegentleman4276 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’m an ISTJ and recently started dating an INTJ girl. I thought we’d be pretty similar but tbh we’re so different.
    For example she’s so afraid of humiliation, embarrassment, rejection, harsh truths and not having her ego stroked. She’s very opinionated and really bad at small talk.
    And not me. I’m fine with embarrassment, rejection and harsh truths. I even seek it out. And even if I disagree with a perspective, I can learn from it and treat it diplomatically, and I’m good at small talk.
    I guess all I can say is she reminds me of a very immature version of myself.
    And I know over time I’m gonna have to tell her all the truth, no matter how harsh it is, but since I’m still a gentle soul deep down, I’ll be empathetic all the way through. I only say this for their benefit.

  • @JungINFJ
    @JungINFJ 11 месяцев назад +4

    17:10 Bro what are you talking about? You've accomplished so much in this last decade. This community and science/channel for instance! lol cutting edge stuff here and so fascinating.

    • @naletai
      @naletai 11 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed

  • @cadayx
    @cadayx 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the upload, Chase!

  • @JungINFJ
    @JungINFJ 11 месяцев назад +1

    9:30 focus poles: deadly sins and living virtues (development poles are shadow and aspirational poles)
    subconscious focused rely on living virtue to develop subconscious. SF give of their virtue and receive of their deadly sin
    unconscious focused rely on deadly sin to develop unconscious. UF expresses deadly sin outwardly and receive living virtue internally.
    15:42 how do you motivate yourself (deadly sin or living virtue UF/SF)

  • @Saavys
    @Saavys 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! The octagram is a very intriguing concept.

  • @paigeheartly8936
    @paigeheartly8936 11 месяцев назад +1

    UD/SF INFP here 😉 dating a SD/UF ISTP and he is a total rain on every parade! He doesn’t like anything joyful, doesn’t like music, he says he wants to live in reality and he finds joy in his miserable job lol. I love him.

  • @blackkitty9098
    @blackkitty9098 11 месяцев назад

    Damnn...thats accurate. Thanks for the upload

  • @martinfelix8940
    @martinfelix8940 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ok now I know that I am subconscious focused ENFJ 😂 I thought the opposite...
    Very good lecture, it's actually nice to see when you humble yourself to to this kind of work, generally I don't like it when ENTPs talk like everything that comes out of their mouth is true ( I had an eargasm when you said "it is a hypothesis"), even if a lot of times they hit the truth in a very accurate way. I think that ENTPs make very good mentors actors actually, I can see it through your podcasts and at work ( it seems to me that in hospitals the most represented type is the ENTP )

  • @pthfnder450
    @pthfnder450 11 месяцев назад +2

    Would being both the subconscious and unconscious developed be called enlightenment? -or how is that measured by the Octagram?

    • @anilalaf
      @anilalaf 8 месяцев назад

      enlightment accoring to this model is integration of all 4 parts of the mind

  • @supremegentleman4276
    @supremegentleman4276 11 месяцев назад

    I’m ISTJ. Heavily relate to ESTP and INFJ sin poles. A little bit to the ISTJ ENFP sin pole.

  • @stefanobesliu6458
    @stefanobesliu6458 11 месяцев назад +4

    If UD|UF people struggle immensely when it comes to relating to other people and forming relationships, doesnt that mean that ESTPs and INFJs have it the hardest being UD|UF and getting out of it?
    I mean, i constantly lust after what other people have and put in the effort, but i never actually feel happy or satisfied. Besides lacking someone to whom i relate, i simply always see what i do as bare-minimum or underwhelming. I constantly see other people's successes in relationships and future plans, while i feel like i am moving nowhere. I consistently feel like my future is just not exciting and i wont really be a top performer at anything. Its like i want an amazing life, but i am aware of the fact that my opportunities are just not as good as those of other people, despite my abilities being pretty good if people actually paid the attention listening to me. Being given the benefit of the doubt has never been harder

    • @EvaJhonsan
      @EvaJhonsan 11 месяцев назад +2

      I don't know about another enfps but i am also stuck in same situation . I can't relate to others and everything is so bland it kills me everyday.I see myself going nowhere it weighs me down so bad i can't even barely move sometimes. I am on my phone like an addict for days . In the end all that i wants is someone to comfort me and provide complete acceptance.
      Thankfully i have youtube and i surround my self with infjs.Ngl it motivates me and gives me faith. Maybe if you could be around enfps. I am not saying take responsibility for them but just be there , sit back and enjoy your time if the situation allows.
      That might help you if you re 100% sure ur an INFJ.

  • @Florenzik
    @Florenzik 11 месяцев назад +2

    I will not lie to you I havent watched the video yet but I am going to, I just wanted to ask you if you ever feel an infinite sort of emptiness that consumes you unless you have a higher ambition that challenges you? Is that an entp thing or is that just a mental illness?

  • @emilyminteer4767
    @emilyminteer4767 11 месяцев назад +1

    What's the difference between being outwardly generous and helping people achieve greedy goals?

    • @Nyalloyd
      @Nyalloyd 10 месяцев назад

      Seems like it would be a different intention.

  • @mosesunic9535
    @mosesunic9535 11 месяцев назад

    would it b possible for the ideal state sd/sf to inhibit the other octagramms in a way where if tht perceived reality is stressed so does one transitions into those other two sides, as don't we all live in our own perceived imagination? in essence sd/sf being the origin state of the consciousness?

  • @lujainomar5788
    @lujainomar5788 11 месяцев назад

    Question, when is the how to type yourself coarse dropping? Or when can I expect it to drop?

  • @HolmisMusic
    @HolmisMusic 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing Content in this Video, as usual.
    Btw I can totally varify that it is possible to change from SD/UF to SD/SF again .. But it will take a lot of time and effort, and it requires immense suffering, pain, discipline and Willpower ☠️ Holy shit what a Journey, but definitely worth it

  • @xnooraxxsnx4537
    @xnooraxxsnx4537 11 месяцев назад +1

    I am a UD UF ENFJ but I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO Tolerance for humiliation. I like it when others critique me and ensure that I’m not stuck in an echo chamber. But I don’t enjoy it. I constantly notice other peoples shortcomings and achievements since I’m always in the background doing nothing but listening and paying attention. It’s also the reason why I would rather be corrected then embarrass myself like they sometimes do. I just want them to say it nicely and respectfully. Did I get something wrong?

    • @kamilsiwczyk4877
      @kamilsiwczyk4877 9 месяцев назад

      Yo iam ud uf infp, wanna link up on discord or smthing?

  • @Testfortest142
    @Testfortest142 11 месяцев назад

    The only question you'll ever need is (in this context): what is wise? And if you never lie to yourself then you always have an answer :)
    For bonus points use the power of inversion and be very hard on the situation and soft on yourself, so for example am I either going to be envious of other people like a " ....." or am I just going to do it the NORMAL/right way.
    Last thing: What would someone who is 200000x better than me do? this thing or that thing.
    Even for people without TI parent I think they know deep down the obvious choice.

    • @shanpurble
      @shanpurble 11 месяцев назад

      You're on to somethig.

    • @Testfortest142
      @Testfortest142 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@shanpurble It needs context, take this lightheartedly please

  • @nemesis27
    @nemesis27 11 месяцев назад

    How can i become UD as 20 yo INTP ?

  • @davidpapojr8531
    @davidpapojr8531 3 месяца назад +1

    Ok none of this helps gn