Source: Jury would've cleared Karen Read of murder | Banfield
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Jurors failed to reach a verdict in Karen Read’s Massachusetts trial on charges alleging she killed her boyfriend by hitting him with an SUV, leading the judge to declare a mistrial Monday. NewsNation's Ashleigh Banfield reveals new details.
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He was not hit by a car, so not guilty of all charges. This man was beaten brutally and bitten by a dog in that house.
Never proven. Medical Examiner did not say it was a beating and no dog dna
Why do another trial! The police are the criminals in this case.
Just let this poor woman get on with her life
John can't go on with his life because of her.
@@MaureenODonovanjohn did that to himself
@@MaureenODonovanhe can’t go on with his life, because he got the 💩kicked out of him
💰 ~ This case is exactly why we need bail bond reform. Otherwise she would’ve been in jail for the last over two years. I have problems with some jurisdictions and how lax they are with REPEAT criminals, that’s a different thing. And I actually think Karen probably did hit him with her car, But there is far more than reasonable doubt based on the experts and even just based on the shotty investigation. But why should a non-violent person sit in jail for two years based on the word of one detective who cannot be trusted, and the problem is you usually never find out that the detective cannot be trusted ever. We were just very lucky this time.c
Lally's just talking a big game after a huge loss. I doubt he could pull another trial together. All those witnesses would be really hard to coordinate and I doubt the McAlberts would want to perjure themselves again (everyone knows they were lying through their teeth, right?)
And hotshot Paul O’Keefe THREATENING Karen Read should be a major headline!!! John’s family siding with that SHADY group & HORRIBLE COPS is what’s shocking!!! 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I watched the defense case,
Those 2 family of cops, set her up. Because someone has to be blamed, right?
@@rickrobbins1037 don’t forget the emts, firemen Kerry Robert’s and niece were all in on “it” too. Right. She is guilty of manslaughter.
Amy, you’ve lost your mind. Karen has put this family through hell and Paul OKeefe was calm and a gentleman through the entire trial. Get a grip on yourself.
@@jackieblue6116 you can't be serious. There's no way she did this. Absolutely not guilty
I’ve been baffled by the family all along. They heard the same evidence we did. Jen’s search was at 2:27 am and that fact was supported by Higgins and Albert’s “butt dials” at 2:22 am. The injuries on John’s arm were CLEARLY dog bites. The stains on his clothes were made by a man bleeding and vomiting in an upright position. How were the O’Keefes able to dismiss all that and so much more? Miraculous stupidity. They let John down by siding with the real killers and choosing their feels rather than facts. That’s their choice and they have to live with it.
I’m still stunned that this even went to trial in the first place.
It’s embarrassing.
Great job Massachusetts police/judicial system 👏
Great job earning trust with the people on this one. The entire thing is a complete JOKE.
RED SOLO EVIDENCE CUPS! 🥤🥤
Will they EVER bother to ACTUALLY find out how John Okeefe died?? My heart breaks for his family.
Blood was in the snow, can't use swabs
Needed to get it before was gone. Remember, it was in the middle of a blizzard. Oh yeah, they didn't put up a tent. ,40 mile wind. Jackson is laughable
Yannetti and Jackson, Lenny and Squiggly
@@MaureenODonovannearest police station wasn't very far away. Wouldn't have taken long to have called dispatch and said "send someone over with a real evidence collection kit".
If the mail man can deliver you mail in a blizzard, cops should be able to do their JOBS.
Think our police/Judicial system is bad. Take a look at our Senator and elected officials. Massachusetts which once held the tea party revolt has become a communist state.
@@MaureenODonovanthere must be a lot of criminal acts going on in Alaska then. Obviously police can't investigate until the snow has gone. I remember the big white out in the UK years ago. Crime was everywhere as the snow was to bad for the police. NOT 😂
Unfortunately it is easier to believe and blame someone who doesn't react the way you like. Than 'friends' who have brainwashed you. She didn't fit in and wasn't part of their 'gang'. The trial proved she didn't do it. Lolly is a joke and Proctor is their Patsy. I wonder what he owes them?.
Doesn’t surprise me that the jury wouldn’t go for murder.
She was over charged and then a very poor investigation.
The problem is if she hit him then she had to ignore her reverse warning sensors and to hit his car in the driveway it's impossible to ignore those sensors so therefore they must be intentional acts in the moment so this is why the CW upped the charges to begin with.
@@mykingofkings1439 She didn’t hit him according to expert witnesses. And according to anybody watching the trial.
@@blipco5Damn Right. How on earth can anyone come to any other conclusion ❓
@@mykingofkings1439 I heard that they upped the charge after listening to her nasty voicemails to John, which they saw as intent, but who knows? Also, wouldn't the backup information (and the times of the backups) be somewhere in her car data? She had a top of the line car with all of the bells and whistles.
Some of the people involved changed their stories in front of the grand jury., which helped them up the charge
See where the state cop proctor can still get his pension, that's the real crime for the taxpayers of taxachusetts!! He will be sucking up 9000 a month for the rest of his life and will probably be on some beach somewhere in Florida!! Maybe he can get a part time job as a crossing guard !! He should be on trial for impersonating a criminal investigator!!
Proctors not getting shit but fired!!
Oh my fucking god anybody with any brain cells understands Karen is Not guilty
I like the other way better...prosecutor lost, but now it's really personal.
The entre Canton Town is corrupted, even the Jury
The jury is from another town.
I guess those idiot jurors assume that when you back into someone with your car it puts dog bites on your arm. And then days later, broken taillight pieces show up. 😂
No, no, no... They "revealed themselves"!!! 🤪🥴
The tail light pieces never should’ve been admitted into evidence seeing that they were found after the crime scene was unsecured…
She sideswiped him.
There was a forensic guy invited at Melanie Little stream and he said the lab should've made an analysis to see if the tail light was broken from outside or inside.
@@mini_skinny0296 Probably a combination of both. The pieces must have been very light though seeing how they floated up through the snow.
Everyone of those jurors are terrified of retaliation….
If that’s the case, then in courts of law across the USA she would have been acquitted on the most serious charge, hung on the rest. WTF Massachusetts are you all in a different country???!!??
who calls themselves the commonwealth?
Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.
@@ByronTexas they should start calling themselves ‘the crown’.
@@acc4465 I have to be honest, I had to look it up. I thought it was only Massachusetts!
@@ByronTexas Thank you. What did you find?
WERE THEY WATCHING THE SAME TRIAL I DID???? Karen Read is INNOCENT!
This is corruption at a much higher level than CANTON. Tough Guy Albert has years of dirt on many. The FEDS are our only hope. The world is watching.
If nothing else at all is in her favor, those puncture wounds (DOG BITES) and scratches on his arm didnt come from being backed into. It's just stupid. So lets just ognore every other piece of evidence all together and say that we're going to claim she did it...
There's no legitimate explanation for those damn wounds.
This seems like misinformation. They didn’t acquit her of second degree murder. They hung on all three charges.
Who said they hung on all 3 charges? If they had only put 2nd degree murder on the jury instructions, it would have been acquittal.
@@reformcongress "Who said they hung on all 3 charges?" I mean, legally it's factually true that they hung on all 3 charges. whatever they were discussing in the jury room is sort of a moot point. At this point, I think they only way either side can move the needle in their way is to go to the media. like this video from a trusted source. with this case, I believe almost no one! haha.
@@DriftwoodbabyWhen Turtleboy does a better investigation on RUclips than CW PD, you know the DA case is crap! & DA wants another beating @ a retrial?
And they're in lies the problem.The jury still doesn't believe that he was not hit by a car. They just don't think she did it intentionally. Which means they all discounted the forensic evidence. This jury should never be allowed to serve agiain .Also, they did not give her a Breathalyzer For twelve hours later , she could have been home and had two glass of wine. They shouldn't be able to charger with the DWI . If he wasn't hit by a car , you can't charge her with leaving the scene. This is an incompetent jury. Why is it that the definition of truth is different for lawyers than the rest of us. We all know the difference between morally right and wrong.
Amen
This is stupid because to get to the other charges they had to believe she hit him. Dog bites and the three expert witness told them different. John was not hit by the car.
Generally, they would have to do that within 3 hours after an arrest for it. 12 hours, case dismissed on DUI.
if i recall correctly some members of the jury had their own personal beliefs and convictions, their own personal ideas about what is right and wrong. they should have asked to be relieved from the case.
Sure, blame the jury for being level headed.
If this is true, they should have marked Not Guilty to the first charge and Deadlocked on the rest. The jury form must have been confusing. I would want to hear directly from jurors before accepting this as fact.
They couldn't. The jury form had: 1. Not Guilty of the count and all lesser charges. 2. Guilty of Highest. 3. Guilty of Next Lower. 4. Guilty of Next Lower.
@@scorpion1429that was the form for Offense 002 - Manslaughter, which had lesser includeds. the form for Offense 001 - Murder in the 2nd Degree had “not guilty” and “guilty”. each charge was a separate page that should have been filled out accordingly
@@gwp4eva Ah okay
At least half didn't believe the cockamamie coverup frame up story that some 20 people set out to frame an "innocent" woman of murder. Kinda ridiculous to believe cops would beat a fellow cop to near death and leave him in their own front yard to die - like it wouldn't be found out the next morning? Someone was going to find him lying dead in the snow! What does Karen suggest their plan was going to be to explain him dead on their lawn if she didn't show up looking for him after she woke from her drunken stupor?
@@gwp4eva This is how I understood it, as well. If they reached a true verdict on count 1, they should have marked their result because there was an option at the top that said Not Guilty. I remember seeing that on the paperwork. I suspect the other instructions from the judge confused them.
If what you say is true, then why wasn't this on the verdict form? If the jury truly agreed that 2nd degree murder was off the table, that's an acquittal on that charge. It would be double jeopardy for Karen Read to be charged with that again. Aren't you an attorney?
If she wasn’t guilty of first charge how can you say she was guilty of the othe 2
the top charge of Murder 2 entails intent
@@gwp4evaYes, but you still have to prove she hit him to begin with.
@@redcharm6173apparently, 6 jurors thought she hit him, but it was an accident.
@@zirconiumdiamond1416 That’s just crazy. I wonder what they are basing their evidence on? Proctors investigation vs. the Feds? Trooper Paul didn’t have all the facts and didn’t make sense. Proctor can’t be trusted, look where’s he’s at now. Good heaves, what is going on in that town?
She’s definitely not 100% innocent no matter how you break it down . She was driving under the influence. Plus the most convincing piece of evidence to me was. He left the bar with a glass and they found glass by the body and on the car. If that’s the case, it’s more likely than not he was hit by a car.
She is FACTUALLY INNOCENT
Any DA worth his salt knows that it’s not what you believe but what you can prove in court!!!
Change the venue, jury pool, and judge. Only way there will be a trial that isn’t tainted by the “authorities“. Karen is innocent, but the good that’s come from this is the corruption being exposed.
I’m not sure why some of the jurors voted guilty? How did you they come to the conclusion she hit him with her suv beyond all doubt? Boggles my mind.
Murder 2 would be an acquittal in this scenario. so either the source is wrong, or the judge made a MASSIVE error by not inquiring whether they were able to reach a consensus on any particular charge
She WALKED OUT THE FRONT DOOR
Still can't believe what they charged her with.
And made her spend how much money on attorneys? She should sue for malicious prosecution!! 💯‼️
If you believe she hit him, it is almost inevitable that you would think that she did it intentionally. It is pretty darn unlikely that someone would accidentally hit someone in reverse hard enough to project them 30 feet. Especially when one is drunk and it is snowing outside. 24 MPH in reverse is scary even in the best circumstances.
Of course, if you believe that she didn't hit him, then the case shouldn't have been brought at all.
Manslaughter always seemed like an incredibly unlikely outcome (she did hit him and leave him in the snow, but she didn't mean to). But, this reporting claims the half the jury thought that is what happened, so who knows, I guess.
She's innocent police coverup
Banfield, you should ashamed how you reported this.
If everything you report is true, then this suggests the verdict forms in Massachusetts need work and that the jury was confused about their not guilty on the second degree charge. Scary
If they had a unanimous decision on one of the charges, double jeopardy should attach to that charge meaning she can not be tried on it again (they could still retry the other two.) It's crazy that the verdict form let this remain ambiguous.
I think it was intentional
the framing of Karen Read was intentional
I have always supported LE however this case should serve as a warning! It is time for those who still are of strong MORAL CHARACTER in LE to clean house…otherwise ALL citizens are left at the mercy of some criminals in uniform.
it was proven that he was not hit by a car. Karen Read is innocent. What is wrong with some of the Jurors. Where they intimidated/scared by B. Albert, Jen McEvil and Coleen? The sure stared them down during closing.
I believe the last two witnesses that were not hired by either side myself, but I guess it depends on what witness’s you believe.
I just don’t get it I just can’t believe that people actually believe that she really hit him with her vehicle I just don’t get it just don’t understand how he would ever get those marks on his arm and how the hell he got 2 black and blue eyes I just don’t understand how that would happen and the marks on the outside of his hands
Brutal reporting, you have zero credibility left.
different laws for different people especially for law enforcement and privilege 🎉
There will be alot more noise the 2nd time around. O'Keefe supporters are not going to sit idly by and watch this injustice again.
And another thing I really feel bad for her parents because they been spending there retirement in a dam court house it’s all so stupid I feel for his parents too like we all want justice but don’t be putting a innocent person in jail for life for something that she didn’t do
One important thing that can be proven beyond all doubt is that the taillight pieces were planted evidence. She's innocent.
Maybe it would be better in the retrial if the FBI handled the investigation instead of the massachusetts state police and prosecutor, And judge. There is clearly something wrong here.
state police were in charge of the investigation to prevent the appearance of bias. Then gave the appearance of bias. What makes you think the FBI would be different?
Never interact with police. They'll pin something on you and not lose a minute of sleep.
It was a rig job by the Commonwealth
Guilty
Such a waste of money to the taxpayers. It was proven that her car did not hit him. So dumb to continue this.
They did not prove what did happen then either.
They won’t retry this case.
Nobody knows till a juror speaks. News Nation and Court TV just throw around any rumor on twitter and talk about like it’s a fact.
This is what happens when the prosecution plays stupid games. Entering that video into evidence with 40 minutes missing, inverted and with inaccurate records destroys their credibility. Every "expert" they put on was stained by that event, not to mention some of their "police" experts being in way over their heads. If you WANTED to believe she accidentally did it, good luck explaining all the witnesses losing or destroying their data., not to mention their dog.
She is absolutely 💯 guilty.
only of being a badge bunny.
But what was the split? Why hasn't that come out?
How does that juror know that? She didnt deliberate with the jurors. She was excused. So she doesn't know, what went on in there.
Bad field just saying whatever. Claims from a source spread as fact on National News smh
Then why didn’t they come out with Not Guilty on 2nd degree? I don’t think your source is correct👎🏽👎🏽
Because they are supposed to decide all counts.
Not only to say that "we know the answer to one count, but we are hung on others".
@@PetriTemisevathat’s not true. they decide each charge individually. if they agreed that Murder 2 was off the table, they should have filled out that verdict form accordingly. that’s the first thing the judge should have asked them when she spoke to them privately, if they had reached a consensus on ANY charge
it’s not an all-for-one. you hang on the charges you hang on
@@gwp4eva Can you name one case where a hung jury has published in court, while the process is still going on, on which charges they agreed, and on which charges they disagreed?
Are you suggesting that if there is for example 10 counts, the jury could come back and say that we agree that the suspect is not guilty for 3 charges, but we can not decide on the rest 7 charges?
What would be the following steps?
I don't recall such a thing ever having happened. After jury reaches its decision, only then they will give out their verdict, on each charge.
@@PetriTemiseva yep. Exactly
@PetriTemiseva You have no idea what you’re talking about. If there was a unanimous not guilty vote on the top charge, she would be acquitted of that charge and hung on the lesser offenses. The state would not be allowed to retry her on the second degree murder charge, only the lesser offenses.
I was wondering if they would be allowed to find not guilty one some and undecided on others
It comes downs to to who/ what do you believe more, the words of Jenn McCabe and co, or the observational empirical evidence. Personally, I'm putting my money on PHD's, biomechanics and physics.
This didn’t age well. Has she admitted there were no sources to this theory? At least because of her extremely sloppy “journalism” the jury has come out to say oh no we were unanimous on the first charge. Who was her source one of the Canton ghouls? The jury also stated that they felt intimidated by the McAlberts during closing. 👏🏼 as usual Ashley
The defense did a great job. Now they have most of the pieces of the puzzle to get Karen acquitted. But there is more work to do. I want them to do a more thorough accident re-recreation to show that it was not possible for John to be hit in reverse at 24mph in the snow at night on a curved street without any decent lighting and sustain those injuries in the process. The taillight wasn’t broken in multiple pieces. A cop testified to this fact. He wasn’t the only one who saw the taillight wasn’t broken in a bunch of pieces and missing. All the missing videos, uncollected evidence, conveniently destroyed cell phones, deleted evidence, not interviewing people, all the other evidence
INCORRECT VIDEO HEADLINE, MEANS THE OPPOSITE
Correction: Jury DID clear her of murder and hung on other charges. Bev comes in and declares the whole thing a mistrial which is not ok. If they were unanimous on Not Guilty for any of those charges then those specific charges are DONE.
Yeah no kidding even his brother said that when he was in the court room when he testified he said he didn’t know what happened until he seen his brother and the way he looked he even said himself that he looked like he beaten now he’s switching his story all of a sudden because she she spoke to them probably because of everything that was going on
I have no faith in the jury system when 6 people could listen to that evidence and think the CW proved John was hit by a car
honestly, I don't believe that. I feel like the "trusted" source was a plant at this point. if someone wants to put their name to it, I might believe them.
Too bad Ashley didn't know at the time, that this would turn out to be a bigger deal than what she reported. Maybe because it was through an unreliable source.
Split??? Jury is crazy to think those injuries were from a car. Not Guilty
Had they just marked the top one of NG then jeopardy would have attached. For all the talk of a lawyer on the jury, that part is a shame
Would have acquitted of murder: is this information or speculation? Cite a source.
I don’t find this information credible. What is the source?
So found innocent on 2nd degree and mistrial on lesser charges.
Karen the snake 🐍
She admitted it and I believe her.
At the same time she admitted to it, she also admitted to getting her period when she had johns blood on her.
Well Karen Read can't use Jackson for her defense, since the two had dinner and got intimate posing for the cameras while the jury was deliberating.
You mean the "photo" which was proved to have been photoshopped? And badly so. DO YOUR RESEARCH better next time before spreading misinformation.
Some of them wanted the lesser but some did not
Turtle boys hunting that jury 😢
I agree it was not proven as a murder, but they did prove manslaughter. The conspiracy story is just not believable. Cleary some of the officers in this case should lose their badges. But to go as far as saying over 10 people participated in framing her for a murder is ridiculous! Her attorneys didn't need to take that route but it does make for an interesting Netflix documentary.
I have to wonder if you even watched the trial.😳
No. They surly did not.
I call Bullshit! Get better sources!
I agree.
why do u call bullshit?
@@gregdahlen4375 BS to her means Karen Read should have been found guilty! It's sad but it's not the jurors alone who were divided around the Karen Read charges!
@@gregdahlen4375because if they all agreed that the top charge of Murder 2 was off the table, then that’s an acquittal. it’s not an all-for-one deal, you decide on each offense individually
so either the source is wrong, or the judge made a MASSIVE mistake by not inquiring whether they had been able to reach a consensus on any particular count
@@gwp4eva exactly
Then it should have been not guilty
AB you are a disgrace to News ..
But the thing is he was not hit by a car therefore not guilty on all counts
This is factually just not true. The jury was factually 10-2 Guilty. Those are the facts, this entire video should be deleted.
Why is it she never went home??
This lady is so smug.
Shes innocent of all charges!
She shoukd be free!!!
I certainly don't have all the facts but her smug demeanor just doesn't sit right with me.
Thank you!
She and her lawyers are the ones who got this social media fiasco going! Smdh
second degree smug demeanor, lol
Maybe you should watch the trial before you come to any conclusions.
@@WVAGirlLenny and Squiggy
Thank the lord I had not a clue how any human could even consider convicting on murder 2 and I watched the entire trial and Lally and the commonwealth another level of embarrassing. I started to believe today that Lally confused the hell out of the jury with his 70 witnesses and the endless testimonies that could put you to sleep or as Jen McCabe Would say wake you up in “shock and horror “to not believe what your seeing or hearing. Pretty amazing that 30 years after OJ the defense team for OJ would’ve had them begging for mercy and probably pee their pants on the stand. Unbelievable they want to try karen again those Albert’s and mcccabes are def hiding something NOT a DOUbT in my mind. Corruption is real there
She is the victem
Not Turtle boy again!! 🤣
His trial is coming up. 34 counts.
Did you hear where someone left a dead turtle at his front door?
In my opinion...the case doesn't move forward!
Doubt it.
Doubt it.
i want to know if the coverup story made any impact on them.
i’m going to guess no.
just a waste of time having those people testify. and the fictional closing argument was as well.
Wow
Oh cmon she did it accidentally or on purpose plain and simple!
No way she will be found guilty of anything but a DUI
Even then she will get off. She last drove a car around 1:30 am. She was tested at 9 am. Who's to say she didn't drink more after she got home?
How do they prove she was drunk, did anyone test her at the time? NO
Yes I agree but I think they want to try and charge her with something
@@ThomasJones-ij6hvShe was caught at 5:08 returning to the scene on library video
Then she drove to Jen house, screaming outside.
@@chhansen9813She was tested at 8 at hospital. Was still drunk at that time
She didn’t even hit him.
She herself admitted she did and already knew he was dead when she called Kerry, she said that. Also told Paul's wife they probably will never see her again. Why? She knew she did it.
@@sandrah0330 That is all according to the very people who wiped their phones and got rid of them. Watch the trial. She’s innocent. Ray Charles could see it. It’s just that clear.
Canton PO could attend the funeral of a PO in NYC but couldn't go to the funeral of a fellow BPO.
Then have the nerve to show up in court on closing arguments day to intimidate the jury, you would need to be reallystupid not to see what's so evident to everybody else.
Somebody needs to open Paul O'Keefe's eyes and show him what has been going on bc he's in denial and that threat he made to Karen Read shows it.
I'm afraid he might try to do something to her or that somebody else knowing he's already on record threatening her might do some harm to her and then blame it on him.
I don’t think Paul threatened her, saying you’re not done yet to me would mean another trial.
And I believe that Paul believes that she hit John. So I would expect him to be pissed at Karen.
6 ?
Maybe that is why there was no "not guilty" box to check
“Trusted source” BS! Name them if you want us to believe your slop news reporting. Until an actual juror, and not an alternate that never made it into the actual room speaks out all this is speculation.
The jurors have a right to privacy if they ask for anonymity.
@@reformcongress
Agreed, so I’m sure this trusted source is not a juror. It’s some u tube blogger just talking crap.
I thought if it was Not Guilty on the 1st charge, it was Not Guilty on ALL charges. I’m so confused.
No there were other choices on the form
They said she is not guilty of murder, but they deadlocked on manslaughter as half the jury felt she did it, just not trying to kill him.
Maura Healy, please stop our embarressment.
Yes. That is also what my news said
Andrea said exactly this.