Adult Child Estrangement and Mental Illness (Seven Keys To Manage Cut Off) | Ep.90

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
    @youtubemariemorinestrangement  Год назад +7

    ○ Need someone to talk to? → morinholistictherapy.com/strategy

  • @theartzscientist8012
    @theartzscientist8012 9 месяцев назад +25

    I believe that if your kids don’t respect you in their behavior, you shouldn’t mess with them. Just as I wouldn’t do in any relationship.

  • @marilynhoward4561
    @marilynhoward4561 Год назад +31

    What about a situation where a mother in law has covertly undermined the mother of said children? Our kids actually told me and my husband about the undermining that had gone on for years. At the time we didn't think too much about it because we were all getting along. But since our kids have been on their own for the last 15 years and have struggled with various things, and with them becoming woke , we have been canceled. We have been accused of toxicity and abuse. I chose to stay home and raise my children and I loved it. I was very proud of the loving home my husband and I happily provided. We are devastated.

    • @cheesecakefan4880
      @cheesecakefan4880 Год назад +17

      You are not the only parents being divorced by adults kids
      This seems to be a trend and I see alot of therapists on YT pushing some Narsasitic Mom garbage that puts kids in a victim mentality that is destroying family units
      I was a stay at home mom too
      I still have a 17yo boy at home who is a Gem of a child
      But our 22yo daughter hss always been difficult and is now estranged from us.
      I bet she will come back at some point but hopefully not too soon.
      I need a break from her drama😉

    • @jamesadamgleason9471
      @jamesadamgleason9471 8 месяцев назад +2

      You need to admit fault. We are all flawed.
      It's best described as two handicap people arguing over who's disability is better/greater.
      Humble yourself and hopefully your kids will too

    • @janehusted9570
      @janehusted9570 22 часа назад

      ​@@cheesecakefan4880
      GOOD FOR YOU SISTER❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @charvankerck9617
    @charvankerck9617 Год назад +16

    dad told me to grow up. didnt have therapists back then. i set my sites on a better life. stopped blaming others, and got my act together. lots of coaches out there on doing your best.

    • @cheesecakefan4880
      @cheesecakefan4880 Год назад +11

      Too many therapists these days
      Especially on YT
      You should see the young people under the narsasitic mother videos
      Such Victims
      I bet those daughters were no Joy to raise
      Geez is there any personal responsibility anymore?
      Young ppl today are so screwed up but I dont think its their parents fault
      I think its society, Hollywood, social media and public schools.

    • @kellyw.8120
      @kellyw.8120 9 месяцев назад +1

      I agree! They always want to make it. The parents fault! What if you’ve done everything to try to accommodate them and they just want to alienate from all the family!? I tried to talk and she won’t talk to me. I just found out she was on antidepressant drugs!

    • @hlulanizitha9920
      @hlulanizitha9920 9 месяцев назад

      This may have worked for you but what if you have a debilitating mental illness like bipolar or schizophrenia or even both simultaneously.

    • @mary-lousaikaley4771
      @mary-lousaikaley4771 8 месяцев назад +2

      My son has bipolar and is struggling. 😢 Thanks for a great video.

    • @lorihoop3831
      @lorihoop3831 3 месяца назад +1

      @mary-lousaikaley4771 just love him. I have bipolar too, and while I still love and talk to my parents I try to hide when I'm having an episode.
      I know it's hard for my parents too, trying to see both sides BEFORE we are estranged.
      I'm in therapy and trying the hardest I ever have, but sometimes I am too much and realize it.
      Trying to do better

  • @unaraggionavera
    @unaraggionavera 5 месяцев назад +12

    Thank you for such a spot on video. Having been cut off by my 19 year old whose life is a big secret is so painful especially when you know that drugs and risky relationships are involved. The worry and stress is indescribable.

    • @taramarie2358
      @taramarie2358 5 месяцев назад

      😢😢😢

    • @janehusted9570
      @janehusted9570 22 часа назад

      My heart hurts for you.
      3 yrs ago, my 47 yr old son overdosed on Meth & I took him in, thinking..... "I could save him." I set myself on fire, trying to him warm. I had to ask him to
      leave. 3 months later he was found dead. Morbid obesity/heart failure.
      They're gonna do what they wanna do, until they know better. It takes as long as it takes.❤❤❤❤

  • @timelessbeautiesbyjacqueline
    @timelessbeautiesbyjacqueline 9 месяцев назад +3

    Just found this video at a critical time with dealing with my 40 yr old daughter who has developed Borderline Personality Disorder over the last couple of years and is a completely different person and who also ended up having a baby (my granddaughter). At this point she is always volatile when communicating over-talking yelling and screaming We worry constantly for our granddaughter as she has no father around or family. We are so distressed and have been on the round and round hampster wheel for these couple of years. I am wits end. Thank you for your tips we definitely need to set more boundaries but at this point I don't know if I will even see her and my granddaughter any time soon. This has definitely affected my health.

  • @GreenTurtle181
    @GreenTurtle181 8 месяцев назад +2

    This was such good analysis and really helped me at this time. Having boundaries for ourselves even when they have cut us off is very good advice. We do send ourselves crazy trying to find answers. Other family members just think she is evil.

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hi GreenTurtle: thank for writing. Of all the contributors to estrangement this one is particularly challenging. We want our loved one to be validated and know we love them. However, depending on the illness, the relationship can be brutal. It is heart wrenching. Do your best to stay on track to honor your wellness. Be around those who love and value you.
      You can get through ❤️💕

  • @DianaGonzalez-nc6zk
    @DianaGonzalez-nc6zk Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for some self care guidelines. [My mother disowned me when I married, then reentered my life when our first child was born. Then cut off when she remarried. Then reentered when she divorced him. And once more in her dementia when I became the successor trustee (brother passed’19; remaining brother is Schizophrenic) in collusion with sis-in-law threaten to cut me off. Over lapping those final years, each of our 3 daughters (each successively declaring they had been diagnosed bi-polar) declared dad & me “toxic” and one at a time over five years cut us off. Writing this short summary of living 55 of my 68 years in a $#%t storm makes my complicated grief almost rational. Last year, mom passed, the next month husband had an amputation. He and I are okay.] I’m having some random days of overwhelming tears. Finding your site is a lifeline back to stability.

  • @muller-petersenfamily8499
    @muller-petersenfamily8499 Год назад +10

    Thank you for your support and guidance. Mine is the last scenario you speak of. No contact 3 yrs - no acceptance of diagnosis, no contact with anyone in my family. Your work helps me very much in addition to my regular therapist. 🙏

  • @Pamalumpa
    @Pamalumpa 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this. My trans son has struggled with bipolar their whole life - diagnosed in middle school. They talk to other family members but not me. I do get news updates but it isn't the same. Honoring their need for space and sending love every day. That's all I can do right now.

  • @MarciWalden
    @MarciWalden Год назад +3

    You are so spot on about an adult child with MI .The pain of being a parent of said adult child with MI all the pain and wory and wondering . i Have learned to back of and let my adult child choose weather he wants to take hi9s meds or not the or not has landed him in a treatment facility so many times. This time 7/25/23 i do beleive he has a changed perspective and relizez he absolutly needs meds to function.so being me compliant is a huge step to get well.

  • @TYGZus777
    @TYGZus777 Год назад +10

    Substance abuse... years and years, since teenage years. Court ordered visitation with a psychopathic father who inflicted decades of emotional abuse. I fought the courts for decades but always lost. Now my child is completely unhinged. I fear for them and their little children. I grieve the loss of my beautiful child, who continues to make unhealthy choices and rebukes the idea of getting help. They have asked me over and over to stay away, and I respect the requests. Then they reach out, and the whole cycle repeats again and again. Another aggravating factor is family members who ask about them and can't comprehend the situation because they have healthy relationships with their adult children, so they press for me to do this and do that. They even go so far as calling my estranged child and guilt trip them into calling me! Now I feel bad over that, too! I most certainly did not ask them to interfere in the situation. I just would like to develop some stoicism like my mom had, so I could cope with this debilitating grief.

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  Год назад

      Dear MH:
      I'm so sorry this has happened and your daughter is struggling. Please learn how to create boundaries with those family members. You have enough to deal with !! Warmly, Marie

    • @katewetherell4846
      @katewetherell4846 Год назад +3

      Same with my adult son! I literally moved from one country to another to get my child out of court-ordered supervised visitation with a drug-addled father. But the grief over losing his dad (through my separating them and then his dad passing away from years of drug use) has followed him and he has refused counselling and any other forms of help and he has pretty much destroyed his ability to function and feel emotions with drugs. No one who hasn't had drug addicted children or other family members understands, for sure. I think that stoicism is possible-- it's just hard to do on your own, so I'm going to put myself back into Al-Anon (which I attended years ago) so I can at least give this issue over to God because as you say, the grief is so debilitating. xK

    • @kathyhenry2362
      @kathyhenry2362 Год назад

      Alanon has been a Godsend for me!@@katewetherell4846

  • @TheNELSEN
    @TheNELSEN Год назад +5

    I am so very grateful you are offering this advice! thank you

  • @TheNELSEN
    @TheNELSEN Год назад +6

    this is very helpful!!! thank you!!

  • @KristyChristensen-x2n
    @KristyChristensen-x2n Месяц назад

    Thank you for this video, helped me realize I was doing the right thing.

  • @CJ-jq4lv
    @CJ-jq4lv 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you.

  • @jagmalhotra8334
    @jagmalhotra8334 Год назад +3

    Very professional meaningful information. Thanks

  • @Pamela-zv1ln
    @Pamela-zv1ln 7 месяцев назад +2

    #Syracuseny, with drug abuse too. How can adults seek help for their child from the courts.

  • @loraliecataldi1975
    @loraliecataldi1975 5 месяцев назад

    Both my son and I are on the autism spectrum, I am a life long semi-survivor of severe covert narcissistic abuse by both parents, developed early onset mental illness at age 9 and the same happened to my son.

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  5 месяцев назад

      Hi thanks for writing. I’m sorry this happened to you and your son. I hope you are getting support.

  • @monitadelarosa
    @monitadelarosa 9 месяцев назад +2

    PLEASE HELP!!! I fill the form on your website. Haven’t heard back. We are in exactly that situation. We are thinking our 26 year old son has Schizophrenia 🥺 we haven’t been able to diagnose him because he won’t do it. We are desperate!! Someone please help 😞😢 he still lives with us.

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  9 месяцев назад

      Please email me
      Morinholistictherapy@gmail.com
      Sorry about the website form
      I’ll look into it.

  • @lindamcmillan8626
    @lindamcmillan8626 Год назад +2

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @laura4corner
    @laura4corner 6 дней назад

    My son blames me for his bio polar disease and drug abuse. I was NEVER abusive, but I did enable him and bailed him out way more than I should have. He's been to jail and prison, all due to the drug abuse and his mental illness. I'm so physically ill, my body is barely hanging in there. I've told him I need to break away due to his abusive way he talks to me. He can be very nice at times and I know how much he loves me, and I love him BUT,..I just can't take it anymore. He wants me to apologize to HIM and he is the abusive one. HIs father, grandfather, aunt and my grandfather all committed suicide. It's always been somewhat of a threat. I'm so broken it's crossed my mind many times. He lives out of state and has NO healthy relationships but I don't want to be cleaning up his problems . I just need peace.... so hard.

  • @carlamariarichardson7214
    @carlamariarichardson7214 4 месяца назад +1

    My son has ADHD. It has caused my other son to blame and is now estranged from me. I'm deeply hurt. I've tried for years to help my ADHD son with no help, understanding or support not even from therapist.

    • @dmarvel6332
      @dmarvel6332 3 месяца назад

      ❤ I see you and I understand it’s so hard. Please try to find a therapist that believes in God’s power of Christ follower of Christian. My therapist is amazing and she helps me to believe and know and remember God’s truth that he never leaves her for six hours in this world is not perfect and we are going to have struggles in life and it just so happens. We have the struggle of a difficult or a mentally difficult child in our life even if they are in adult there still are adult child may God give you peace, in the name of Jesus.

  • @mistiblu9442
    @mistiblu9442 Год назад

    Good reminder to set boundaries.

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  Год назад

      So true!

    • @vanlifebayou
      @vanlifebayou Год назад +2

      Yep I let my boundaries down and went to dinner. There, my daughter in law and soon to be daughter in law sat at the other end of the table from me. They laughed at me, rolled their eyes etc. my husband told me in the car how awful they were when I wasn’t looking. I’ve cried for days. Now,back to my normal clarity of thinking,I know it’s their “mean girl” cult. Reminded myself that going in public with them is dangerous for me, and it won’t happen again.

  • @Smartbeautifulawesome
    @Smartbeautifulawesome 8 месяцев назад

    Someone said I was erratic I wasn’t even doing anything…that is strange

  • @JacylnFord
    @JacylnFord 2 месяца назад

    I am Jacyln Marie Ford. I was born on December 03 1980....i am ablut to enter into Sober Living for 6 to 12 months.... i am finally breaking the cycle it is scary for me to break the cycle....

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  2 месяца назад

      Your fears are valid. You have the courage within you already. Remember you will be supported during your recovery. Take it one day at at time.

  • @eyeseeme3
    @eyeseeme3 Год назад +13

    What I would add as far as what a parent could do is work on themselves and see where they can take accountability in their part of the behavior of the child and the upbringing

    • @theresehill1660
      @theresehill1660 Год назад +9

      Stop blaming the parents .
      I have a borderline daughter that has made it her mission to destroy me.
      I have 2 other children who are fine.
      All these videos do is validate her cruelty. And justsifies it.
      So she doesn't have to take responsibility

    • @eyeseeme3
      @eyeseeme3 Год назад +2

      @@theresehill1660 not blaming the parents but pointing out their accountibility matters

    • @cheesecakefan4880
      @cheesecakefan4880 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@eyeseeme3 Some parents have done nothing wrong
      Many young people these days are being destroyed by social media and the wifi

    • @eyeseeme3
      @eyeseeme3 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@cheesecakefan4880 there is no such thing as a perfect parent. Everyone needs to take accountability in life, parents are no exception. Also there are abusive parents. And even parents that meant well can inflict trauma without realizing. There needs to be mutual understanding

    • @meridithmatthews
      @meridithmatthews 6 месяцев назад +1

      You must be a proud parent bc ur kids turned out excellent. When you don’t know what is going on, you should keep your opinion to yourself esp if there is genetic involved and of course like you, blames parents like us that suffer the most.

  • @PilgrimHymns
    @PilgrimHymns Год назад +1

    What about a child who has never been afraid of anything and who has done so many "scary" things? Sometimes I don't even want to know what she's doing until it's over and I know she is still alive. :) But here's my question. What if she's been encouraged to get a diagnosis, but she just won't? It's not about encouraging her to take meds. She won't even get a diagnosis, much less take any meds. She won't even go to the doctor for normal health issues. She has been "forced" twice to do a mental health evaluation, but the legal and health systems are broken and don't seem to be able to help. Any advice?

  • @Pamela-zv1ln
    @Pamela-zv1ln 7 месяцев назад

    Im listen. But hear circle of words. How to Solve problems. 😅😮😮 boundary, communication, support ( both) or not, validation your or self. Cant i get a court oder of harming his self

  • @joanherron3248
    @joanherron3248 Месяц назад

    My 46 yr old daughter has mental illness..but my hubby tells me it’s my fault because I have empathy for her. He tells me I’m making her worse. How do I show empathy without her acting like a little child. I don’t know how to be with her

  • @janetjohnson4403
    @janetjohnson4403 Год назад

    Ok so have a 36 year old son his father had schizophrenia he committed suicid in 2000 now my son is homeless and refuses to get checked out for this mental illness what can I do .

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  Год назад +1

      @janetjohnson4403 Thank you for writing. I am sorry for your loss and now what is happening with your son. Does your son have a caseworker? If so, they can be helpful in getting treatment. If your son continues to be unwilling to get treatment, the best thing you can do is get support for yourself to help you deal with the stress. Does he speak to you?

  • @kellyw.8120
    @kellyw.8120 9 месяцев назад

    My daughter is depressed because her baby sister is doing better than her. My daughter thinks she had it better than her and that’s not true. She refuses to acknowledge that her sister busted her butt to get where she’s at. She blames me for how she turn out and she constantly throws the pass in my face. She will acknowledge the new me and is holding onto the past mistakes. I admit, I wasn’t the perfect parent by far but I had since then tried to make it up and tried to be a better person. I don’t know what to do and just recently found out she’s on depressants!

    • @jamesadamgleason9471
      @jamesadamgleason9471 8 месяцев назад

      Admit fault and grow together. You were wrong and untill you fully admit it, you will be viewd as a hypocrite

    • @Smartbeautifulawesome
      @Smartbeautifulawesome 8 месяцев назад +1

      Well don’t compare they’re all different my sisters and I don’t get along anymore we used to sort of but not really…just love them as individuals not worry so much. Also sometimes people change and grow

  • @PromoCodeLady
    @PromoCodeLady 19 дней назад

    It 's even worse when CPS seized the kids and the parent did everything to get them back and had a fraudulent social workers. Horrible.

    • @amycarter9083
      @amycarter9083 6 дней назад

      So sorry. Absolute thievery. Such heartache for so many.

  • @koziparker
    @koziparker Месяц назад

    Should we still give them money if they won’t get treatment for their mental health?

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  Месяц назад

      This is a difficult decision. Its hard to tell if threatening to stop support will motivate a decision to get treatment.
      Some peoplejust plainly refuse. Can they survive on their own?

  • @rachelbrown6659
    @rachelbrown6659 6 месяцев назад +3

    My 27 year old daughter suffers from mental illness. This thing has ruined her life so far. She was doing fine a few years ago. She had a job attended ,college was in a relationship, got married then all of a sudden she got very depressed tried to commit suicide more than once she deals with anxiety, low vitamin Deficiency, was diagnosed with being bipolar. She has lost everything her job, can't really attend college like she desires to also had to separate from her husband because he's not able to deal with all of this. He himself has a disability of being visioned impaired. She sees a psychiatrist and is on medication for it I'm a Christian woman. I trust in God for my daughter's healing. I just wanted to reach out to other parents that may deal with a child whether they are small or grown that deals with mental illness. I need help on what to do on how to cope with this.

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  6 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks for writing. I’m sorry you’re going through this. I hope your daughter gets treatment and feels better. Bipolar is a brutal mental illness. Believing in God is a great comfort. Support from a professional for parents whose adult children struggle with mental illness is extremely important. Sometimes we need someone who understands and knows to help manage the magnitude of the situation. I wish you the best.

    • @dmarvel6332
      @dmarvel6332 3 месяца назад +3

      I See you and understand you , I too have a son 25 since 17 , all sudden he became angry , cannabis dependent and has MI with ADHD and maybe bi polar , he has distance himself a couple of times since 17 years old for months at a time he has had multiple jobs and always finds fault with the management. I pray constantly I have a therapist and a mentor. That is the key to have community of people that help you understand it’s not you it’s about them and they need to heal. I am also a Christian and we need to trust God and God‘s plan we are to go on with our lives at the plant he has for us and we pray that someday we would be able to have a healthy relationship with our son or daughter may God be with you he says he never wastes anything that’s difficult. I believe God will use their difficulties at this time to grow them close to him. I pray for healing for your daughter and healing for my son, in Jesus name.

    • @Pbs400
      @Pbs400 2 месяца назад

      @@dmarvel6332this sounds exactly like my 24 year old daughter! Started when she was 17. We truly believe she is bi polar, but she refuses to seek help We finally had to get her out of our home.We are praying daily that God helps her! We have tried everything, but she became violent, verbal abuse, manipulative etc we had to make her leave.

  • @tsol438
    @tsol438 4 месяца назад +3

    12 min into this video and not really hearing sympathy for caregivers that try everything we can to keep the adult mentally ill from being homeless where the situation is that it's not safe to live with them.

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for writing and pointing out the gaps in this video's coverage. I know firsthand what you are speaking about. It is not safe, and the alternative is to have no safe living options for our family members. I am truly sorry you are going through this. I sincerely wish for some type of help for those of us in this caregiver roll.

    • @chocolatesugar4434
      @chocolatesugar4434 2 месяца назад +2

      My son punched me and I don’t know if I should support him or disown him. But I do feel for him, I know he’s struggling with something but he won’t speak to anyone or get help.

    • @tsol438
      @tsol438 2 месяца назад

      @@chocolatesugar4434 Maybe support him but keep him distanced. That's the only solution I found. Mine threatened to shoot me if he ever got a gun. That allowed me to get a restraining order. He now hops from group home to group home. Refuses to work so we support him financially....bare necessities. We don't give him cash or buy cigs. Shelter, hygiene supplies and food only. You shouldn't have to live with an abuser. Take care of yourself first. ❤️❤️❤️

    • @mmorin881
      @mmorin881 2 месяца назад

      @@chocolatesugar4434its not ok for anyone to harm you. Have you tried setting boundaries with the help of a therapist?

  • @samjarrett5905
    @samjarrett5905 10 месяцев назад +1

    The parent seems to blame you and your ilness the oldet they fet

    • @youtubemariemorinestrangement
      @youtubemariemorinestrangement  10 месяцев назад +1

      @samjarrett5905 Thank you for writing. I get it. I agree with you. What are your thoughts on how some people tend to blame others for areas they don't want to look at or take responsibility for?

  • @rh5524
    @rh5524 11 месяцев назад

    Pretty much there is not much hope is there for either side. They have to accept that we lost our chil drand just move on with our lives. And they lost.
    Pretty much dear alive. And you just see that child when they were little. And they were happy and they had no worry in the world and then genetics and circumstances. Around everythand there is no way back for Ida party just acceptance of c***