How to Spool Braided Line on a Spinning Reel Without Line Twists or Loops
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2014
- Discover the simple tricks to spool braided fishing line on a spinning reel the right way so you never get those pesky line twists and loops in your line. Spooling a spinning reel with braided line can actually play a role in how far you cast, how long your fishing line lasts, and how many fish you catch.
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This video goes into detail on all of the important parts of the spinning reel spooling process. There are quite a few things that can impact your casting and retrieval when it comes to your spooled spinning reel.
Most of all, be sure to have constant tension on the line (both braided line and mono) while reeling it onto the spool. Without the tension, you'll be at risk of having line issues while casting... aka - wind knots.
As mentioned towards the end of the video, it is great to let your line out while idling forward in your boat and let about 100 to 200 ft of line drag without any lure or knots tied to it. This will help ensure that any twists in the line get straightened out.
But make to watch out for boats (or wave runners) behind you as your fishing line could easily get caught in their prop/intake.
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Thank you for the demo. As a kid, my pole was already setup. 32 now, finally gonna' take up fishing for some father-son time.
Even though this is basic information that any beginner should know, you still presented this in a straightforward manner, that the novice can understand. This is the BEST fishing channel on RUclips.
Braided line is the best thing that ever happened to spinning gear. I keep four on my deck I normally do fifty percent backing and fifty percent braid. Mono is less expensive than braid plus braid is so tough it lasts longer. Good job on spooling. The leader knot is the critical knot.
You don't have to flip the bale. If you forget, just take off the spool and reseat it after flipping the bale open. No need to cut the line and do it over.
Do you have to tie braided line to mono line?
@Chief Bubba You should
That guy
Thank you! Reel spins clockwise line comes off spool clockwise. Love your channel!👍
and make sure you DONT do this under a ceiling fan.....just sayin
I did and my fan hit my brand new lews speed rod
Been there!!! Never damaged a rod but I have put them in the ceiling fan! scary stuff.
Been there, done that , got the t-shirt.
Or anywhere near your cat
Damn ain’t that the truth! Never happened to me..... said nobody ever! 🤣 Loved hearing reel spins clockwise line comes off clockwise..... label up! Thank you saltstrong!👍
Good teaching. Unlike many other demonstrations, you showed all the components working together. Good camara placement. Thanks for your mindfulness on this respect.
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment on the Spooling a Spinning rod video. Fish On!
Great job explaining how to do this! You made it super easy to understand! Thanks dude!
It was our pleasure! Thanks so much for leaving such a nice comment... positive feedback like this makes us even more excited to make new fishing tip videos. We hope to hear from you again soon. Fish On!
I'm going to replace the mono on my 6' 6" medium action spinning rod with braid so I have more bite sensitivity--thanks!
Thanks for sharing your expertise on Braided line for a spinning reel...
Just read a comment way down there and someone else said the same thing. You mentioned the label problem and addressed the issue. It should be coming off the spool in a cc direction. Good fishing my friend!!
Umm yeah if you forget to flip the bail just undo the drag and take the spool off then flip the bail open and screw the spool back on and bam! it's fixed fyi. ;)
I just unscrew and remove the bail, put the line thru then screw the bail back in. Lol
Dammit, why didn't I see this before, I just cut the line and retied it, wasn't that big a deal but the shot to the ego took a minute to deal with.
@@biggiecheese5135 lol
I've had to pop the spool off more times than I'd like to admit, but it's no big deal.
Thank you soo much for these lessons. I know this is a small accomplishment but watching this video gave me the confidence to successfully spool my own reel. Plus I used braid for the first time.
I'm so glad you said at the end to just let a load off behind the boat its the best possible way to get all twists out.
Yep there is no way of putting line on a spinning reel without twist unless you take the spool off and spin it on the same way it comes off the spool of line. I use a shaft and spool cap off of an old reel and put it in a drill.
Excellent instruction...getting some new gear soon. Looking forward to trying this out.
For people fishing rivers, that last tip works the same there - just let out line and let the river current get out any twist you may have. Works for mono just the same, so either way - when you first notice twist in your line, take the lure/bait/hook off and just let out the line and let it hang there a minute or two and you're back to twist free (virtually, anyway) spin fishing. Great video. Thanks for making it. Clearly thousands and thousands of people have found this helpful! :)
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on spooling braid.
I just finished my 1st spool and can’t wait to try it out.
Now all I need is the lake to open up. Still iced in.
How'd it go?
MR-FLIP, the reel used in this video is a Shimano Stradic CI4 (3000 series). Thanks for leaving a comment. Fish On!
temple fork outfitters rod ???? nice i have a 4000 saros fi on it nice combo 7'6"
+Broward County Yes, I'm becoming a huge fan of TFO after trying out some of their rods... here's one teamed up with a 2500 shimano landing a decent tarpon on 10 lb test: ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html.
+Salt Strong likewise landed a nice 41" snook in jupiter fl backcountry
+Broward County Nice work... Fish On!
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Thank you for making this video! Good stuff 😎
Right on!!! I have always been wanting to find out the good tricks.
Hey Benaiah, we're thrilled to see that you enjoyed the video. If you like the simple tricks in this video, then you'll love the ones we give on our website - www.saltstrong.com.
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Sure do; thanks!
Here is another tip. Let's say your spool holds 300 yards of 20 pound braid, but you have a partial spool, say 220 yards or so. That is still a lot of line and you want to use it but you don't want the line to be so low on the spool you can't cast well. Here is what you do--IF you have another spool that is exactly the same size and line capacity. Take the short spool--the 220 yard/300 yard capacity spool. Tie on a mono top shot, right to the edge, dead on. Now, take off the spool, and put on the empty same sized spool. Tie on the mono and then transfer the contents, mono first, (of course) onto the new spool. Logic dictates that the mono, and then Braid will spool onto the new, empty spool. After filling, the BRAID will come completely off right where you want it-to the edge of the new spool.
+Jmichael Isbell holy crap that's brilliant
had to read that 3 times to understand but that's a great idea!
Wish I could say I though of it, but someone showed me of course. As you say, simple but brilliant idea that has to work.
Yeah, but I explained it horribly. I am revising it, to say it more plainly, see above
its slightly hard to follow
with two spools of the same capacity if you are short to the lip on your existing spool attatch mono until it is flush to the lip. now attatch the end of that mono to the new spool and wind until the new reel has the perfect amount of line on. (shorter version) amazing idea mate i will be using this tip right now!
I've never tried mono -> braid first, brilliant man!
What’s the point of it
thank u, the only actually clear guide through every step
Thank you for checking it out!
Great video! Thanks, it was very informative and helpful.
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment on this line spooling video. Fish On!
Thanks for a well done informative video! It helped me.
Cool red color STRADIC!!
I like this model😍😘😁❤️💕
this video helped me a lot, thank you.
Another great vid!
Great video..THANKS...
Instead of a rag or papertowel only, I always spray mine heavily with REELMAGIC. It keeps the abrasion burn down and helps treat the line as it goes on.
of coarse I always use REEL MAGIC to keep my line smooth and gear clean before and after fishing.
Great video. Very informative. I subbed and liked!! Keep up the good work
I really like the action of the reel.
Great video. Thanks for posting.
very well explained. Worked well. Thank you.
Glad to see that you enjoyed the video. Tight Lines!
yes I like your website a lot to learn thank you so much
Thank you..Very clear. Great help.
Really helpful video, thank you.
Great Video and info thanks for the Knot lesson Tanner.
Ron Gamblin Thanks for leaving the nice comment Ron. Fish On!
I have a shimano stradic ci4+ 3000 too! Good reels! I used your method and spooled it with sufix 832 20lb braid in a camo color. Thank you sir!
Hector Ramirez Hey Hector, I'm glad to see that you enjoyed this spooling method. It's of course impossible to not get absolutely zero line twists, so I often do this to clear out any that may have formed when spooling: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator/.
Salt Strong I'll try it! Thanks again.
Good video, thank you.
The one thing people forget when tying onto the spool is creating a strong enough knot that would hold the rod/reel should you lose the rod overboard. If that spool knot breaks--like a square knot would using mono--yer skrewed. A better knot will hold should you get a handle on the line if a rod goes seaward.
Been there, done that, this is a great point!
Love them Stradic reels. Have 6 of them now.
You should have bought daiwa ballistics👍
Now I build my own rods to. Excellent with the Stradics.
Thank you for the video.
One thing that should be done differently in my opinion, is to tie an overhand knot in the tag end to act as a stop/brake when you pull the line tight around the spool.
: ) Tyler
i liked because it’s been 4 years with no like
Thanks! Exactly the info I needed!
Glad it was helpful!
cheers Mate, well done
👍👍👍 great job teacher.
+salt strong u are the best thanks that helped a lot I couldn't put my line it would just get tangled and I kept using all of my line
Fins, I love that braided line. Casts smooth& super far!
Double arbor knot is pretty strong to the point where the tag end will need to be cut if too long. I've just attached braid directly to the spool. Albright knot between braid and fluorocarbon leader and you're all set. I haven't had knots break, the line itself does before the knot.
I use power pro braid 10 lb and it spools fine on mine, plus I use about a foot leader of 20lb invisible for a leader
Question: After you've retied leaders, had break offs, etc., do you remove the braid and add more mono then respool he braid or do you simply toss the remaining braid and spool again with new braid? Thanks
5:07.. I watched a Roland Martin vid on spooling line onto a reel and he will keep on flipping the spool every time he sees any twists forming.. that was a first for me but I think he knows more about fishing than ALL of us Utubers ;)
Some nice, thick electrical tape on the spool will keep the braid from slipping. No need for mono layer.
+Matthew Herzog Yes, the electrical tape on the spool is certainly a good option. Thanks for leaving the helpful comment. Fish On!
Very smart! Thank you both
+Salt Strong if trying to catch larger fish offshore or surf fishing, don't use mono under braid, the braid will sink into the mono and break your line. I suggest using electrical tape or buying a reel that has a rubber strip around the spool
+Matthew Herzog That's what I do. Works great.
+Matthew Herzog I prefer monofilament. Electrical tape leaves a sticky residue on my spool and I can easily have a much bigger backing with mono so I can use less braid and save more line and money.
I finally bought braid line. I watched this tutorial andwas confused so I checked the comments but no one daid anything. You reeled the line clockwise...check. but you also instructed for the line to come off its spool clockwise AND with the spool sticker facing up. The line does not come off the spool clockwise w sticker facing up. Anyway I had someone hold the string spool vertically to split the difference. I tried the line for the first time and I couldnt believe the sensitivity. I did catch a largemouth on the first outing. It ran for a branch and got caught up in it. i reeled them both in no problem. I would have lost the fish with mono. Thanks for the instruction on spooling the line.
Thanks for the feedback!
How many meters or yards on an empty reel? Thanks for the vid
Nice vid. Thanks!!
Thx for this video.. there are more than one train of thought or opinion.. spool flat label up or spool vertical line coming off top label right side... who knows which is better.
Thanks for sharing... God Bless
All my Daiwa or Shimano reels come with user manuals and both makers stress on NOT to apply a line from a flat laying spool on the table like you do but use vertically on a pencil or whatever. Using your way each loop creates one spiral that will backlash during casting making it look like fishing with confetti and ending up with spaghetti! Now, one needs nylon when a spool is designed for more braid than available or intended to use. In such case what I do is put on braid first and than on top of it I continue with nylon until the spool is almost full (depends on reel performance etc.) Then I remove all and wind all back in desired order. Otherwise electrician's tape will do the job. Happy fishing!
Mono to braid use crazy Alberto knot super easy and strong
+birenmyron Be sure to give the FG knot a try... it is thinner than the Alberto and has tested to be over 20% stronger too. Here's a test we did on these knots recently: www.saltstrong.com/articles/albright-vs-alberto-vs-fg-knot/.
Great info!
Thank you... great job
Thanks for watching!
for a couple of dollars u can by a spool holder i just stick it to my window and tie the braided line rite on the spool with a slip knot and just reel away it never slips and you can adjust the tension on the spool holder and they work great i think i paid under $10 for the spool holder
big ron you might find youre getting funny drag problems. If you dont tape or put mono backing youre probably going get ghost drag. The whole braid winds will spin on the spool and you wont realise it at first. Take my advice I had braid on all my gear and thought all my drags were out but I knew that was super unlikely.
nice demo.
Doing that last tip is all you need to do to get any twist out. I’ve been doing that for years. Works great. Just make sure you do it without anything tied on. You can do it out in your yard also.
Thank you so much
Nice video. Thanks for the tips.
Eric Cantley Our pleasure Eric! Thanks for making time to leave a nice comment. Fish On!
Thanks for sharing . keep it up
samir wanderung Our pleasure! Thanks for leaving the nice comment. We'll certainly continue to publish more educational videos about fishing. Be sure to subscribe to www.saltstrong.com/ (if you haven't already done so) to ensure you get notified of our latest and greatest videos.
These guys always have research and experience behind their advice
excellent video
very helpful...thanks!!
dirty1223 Thanks for leaving the nice comment! We're glad to see that you enjoyed this "how to spool a spinning reel" video. We wish you the very best on your next day out on the water!
Thanks !
When using 5lb power pro, I got massive twist on the line on the line from where I was pinching it all the way onto the reel spool. No twist on the line coming off the line spool and on the line above where I was pinching it.
When pulling the line off the drag the it was very tight twist. With the bail arm open and pulling the line off there was no twist so I thought this was OK as this is how the line comes off the reel spool when casting but while casting/fishing, the line twist was still there.
Not sure what I was doing wrong??
You look like Ross from Friends lol. Thanks for the video
The fg knot is useful for binding braided and mono/fluoro
Thank you.
good video but the previous video I watched says to spool on the line counter clockwise? this video says you should spool on the line comming off the spool clockwise the same way as the reel? which is the correct way? does anybody know??
Nice explanation bro.
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
You are awesome bro
Thank u so much
good video very informative however if you put the spool in a bucket of water that keeps the tension on
Some reels have little rubber strips on the spool so you can use braid direct
You said any knot, I've seen uniknot work well and holds both lines well, what do you think?
Helpful video, I'm a beginner so I'm wondering how much leader length do I need to attach to the braid after spooling that in, thanks!
Welcome! Thanks for checking it out!
I insert my metal spooled type rod holder thorough the spool of new line, place it on the floor, add tension with one foot on each side, and reel in. You can easily control the tension my applying or releasing the pressure of your feet
And ive done that with a pencil between my toes😂
Blood knots braid to mono or braid to wind on flouro leader have done me well. Have yet to have either fail.
I used to not care about my backer knots either. About a year ago I was smallmouth fishing using 10lb braid to a 6lb fluorocarbon leader to a neko rig senko. I was catching bass all day it was a great day. Then I had a 13 lb striper bite. I have never seen a striper bite something like that, bit this one did. I got me to within a foot of my knot and I was sweating bullets and thinking I was going to lose it. Luckily I was able to tighten my drag down enough to reel him in.
Determining from which way? Is it clock wise lookin from over top
Good tips
So I have an older Penn Fierce 4000 . It’s pretty lightweight but powerful enough for heavier fish of course . It says no lower than 15lb braid on the reel . I accidentally didn’t look and bought 10lb braid online . Can I still use it on this reel ? Would it mess up the dynamic or something ? Thanks in advance
I have an electric line spooler that allows me to remove the spool from the reel and spool it with no twists whatsoever, that being said, you don't want your line twistless on the spool. When you make a cast, the line will twist one turn with every loop off the spool making hundreds of twists between the reel and the end of your line (and your next PB). When you lift your lure out of the water between casts, several twists come out...especially if you have a line-break. In short order, the first hundred foot or so off your reel ends up twisted on the spool anyway. Letting the spinning reel be a spinning reel puts all the twists on the spool and when you cast, the twists come out and you won't have any between the reel and end of line. Then when reeled back in, the reel puts the twists back onto the spool. Best practice is to spool it as you would a baitcaster, applying tension to the filler spool and not holding the line. Tight lines!
Great video and great info.I have several questions if I could ask them .
Haven't saltwater fished in years and everything today seems a little different.
Are new reels such as the Penn Battle II set up to handle braided line without the Monofilament line Pre-load? or do you still recommend pre-loading with mono.
and Can the Mono line used for pre-load be of a different pound rating then the pound rating of the braided line. Ex. 20lb mono attached to 80lb Braided
any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you
Hey George, we're glad to see that you're getting back into fishing. Yes, some of the reel manufacturers are now including a rubber sliver in their spools so it can grip onto the braid allowing for the mono layer to not be needed (however, I often fill the spool a quarter or halfway full with mono to save on braid... since I typically fish via boat, kayak, or paddle board, I can always chase down a fish before it ever gets all the braid out). I've never used the Penn Battle II, but it looks like it has that rubber section, so mono isn't required. Yes, any sized mono can be used as backing and can be connected to the braid... here are some knots you may want to use for that connection - www.saltstrong.com/articles/best-fishing-knot-for-braided-line.
thank you I will do that
After you are done with putting the line on, take off drag and then spool. Place spool in medium hot water covering the whole spool for about 10 minutes and that will tighten up your line and shrink it down to where you don't have wind knots!!! Dry off and grease up spool again! Mr Hedypoo being fishing for 60 years!
Thanks for the tip. I used to do this when I used mono back in the day, but I didn't continue once I switched to braid assuming it didn't work. I'll give it a shot next time I re-spool. Fish On!
+Salt Strong 👍
Salt Strong knowledge
I tried that and it works fine! Thanks for the tip
Don Julio and spelling for 3 months
Braid to leader knot: Alberto Knot 💯
Random User I’ll check it out
@Jiggin Johnson ty lol
Uni knot
Fg fools
I use the same method for loading braid onto both fixed spools and multipliers. Only thing I do differently is to use a wet cloth. That way I can really put the braid on nice and tight without fear of it over heating as it goes on the spool. Which as you can imagine, with very light braid / mono / fluoro, heat can potentially be a big problem affecting the lines strength.
Other than that, great video, thanks!
If you haven't done one already, how about a video on how to ensure your braids "line lay" on the spool is nice and even / level and not in a hugely concave or convex shape??
Thanks for the nice comment. Yes, a wet cloth is certainly a necessity for spooling a spinning reel most effectively. In response to your comment about concave or convex issues on the spool… is there a particular spinning reel that you're finding does this frequently. Most spinning reels I've used are pretty good about speeding the line properly.
Salt Strong
Hello mate.
The problem isn't happening to me - any more. It used to when I first began using braid on fixed spool reels. The problem occurred on almost all the reels I was using at the time. Quite what the actual cause was, I dont know. But I did notice that the reels in question were rated from say X amount of yards of 10lb mono to Z amount of yards of 18lb mono. Even though the braids breaking strain I was using fitted nicely within these parameters, it was the thickness of much much lighter lines than those stated for any of the reels.
I cured it simply by basically hand coiling some old or cheap mono into a reverse profile of the concave or convex issue on the reel I was spooling at the time. This way, when the braid went onto the reel, it pretty much levelled itself out by the time the spool was topped off with braid.
The reason I said about maybe you doing a video on how you would counter this problem is because of the question from "Teen fishing channel" below. As when I read the question, it was the first thing which came to mind.
Something to bear in mind with the problem this young guy's facing is the possibility of a large 8000 size reel perhaps being filled with a braid whose equivalent thickness may be less than the recommended line breaking strains / diameters. Perhaps patiently reverse profiling that line lay may work for him / her. Or maybe as you suggested, the reel is simply faulty by not having the spool and the rotor arm properly lined up with each other.
I can hear the voices of some of my peers saying will simply fill the spool with the correct thickness of braid. Bad idea in my opinion. Who wants to go attempting to casting lightweight lures or baits with 50lb to 80lb braid? Not my idea of being fun or sporting if you should manage to hook a fish which you can pretty much skull-drag back to yourself ;)
MrTatts64 Thanks for the great tips!!! Yes, we completely agree that it's best to not try to match the line thickness of braid to the recommend thickness of the reel because that would be way overpowered for most needs and would drastically decrease casting performance. So far, I've never encountered spooling issues from using light braid... but that may be due to my preference to always use the smallest reel possible because even the small spinning reels these days have very strong drag systems. For example, I've caught multiple 40+ inch redfish along with an 80b tarpon on a 3000 series Shimano, and I too often see people using 4000+ size reels to fish the flats (that's more $ and power than needed in my opinion). Thanks again for the super helpful comments on spooling reels. Fish On!
I have a BG MQ 4000, 20lb braid can get 280.
Is it best to spool half mono then half braid, vs spooling the full 280?
Great video(s)! I didn't read all 581 comments, so let me apologize, in advance, if this is a dupe. I like the info here but , I think you are missing a very important advantage to starting off with a single or double layer of mono on the spool. First off, unless you're using 100# test, it will not seriously impact the line capacity. but most importantly, should you tie into a monster, or a shark, or something that could potentially empty your spool, that couple of yards of mono will act as an indicator to warn you of what;s about to happen. A while back, I tied into a beauty of a salmon, using borrowed gear that I found in the garage of the house we were staying at (near Seattle). I made the mistake of not inspecting the gear too closely. The mono it was spooled with was old, oxidized, and brittle, and here wasn't much of it. I was babying the line with this big fish on and, before I knew it, I was fishing "on the knot". Luckily, my daughter-in-law's brother came by and I was able to send him back to the hose for a net and he climbed dome the rocks of the jetty, and netted the fish.
True, you don't need backing, but if you're using say, a 4000 shimano and decide to be ten or 8 pound braid ( some people like to use one reel on multiple rods with just changing the spool. ) then a layer of mono underneath the braid will fill up the spool in case the braid amount you bought doesn't fill the reel. My $0.02
Tnx so much
I have a rod that I break down to go backpacking. I want to pack the loaded reel separately. How do I keep the line from coming off the reel?
when you forget to flip the bail open all you have to do is obviously cut and redo your knot or take your spool off and flip the bail open and reinstall your spool.