Even though this is basic information that any beginner should know, you still presented this in a straightforward manner, that the novice can understand. This is the BEST fishing channel on RUclips.
Braided line is the best thing that ever happened to spinning gear. I keep four on my deck I normally do fifty percent backing and fifty percent braid. Mono is less expensive than braid plus braid is so tough it lasts longer. Good job on spooling. The leader knot is the critical knot.
Good teaching. Unlike many other demonstrations, you showed all the components working together. Good camara placement. Thanks for your mindfulness on this respect.
For people fishing rivers, that last tip works the same there - just let out line and let the river current get out any twist you may have. Works for mono just the same, so either way - when you first notice twist in your line, take the lure/bait/hook off and just let out the line and let it hang there a minute or two and you're back to twist free (virtually, anyway) spin fishing. Great video. Thanks for making it. Clearly thousands and thousands of people have found this helpful! :)
+Broward County Yes, I'm becoming a huge fan of TFO after trying out some of their rods... here's one teamed up with a 2500 shimano landing a decent tarpon on 10 lb test: ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html.
Damn ain’t that the truth! Never happened to me..... said nobody ever! 🤣 Loved hearing reel spins clockwise line comes off clockwise..... label up! Thank you saltstrong!👍
Just read a comment way down there and someone else said the same thing. You mentioned the label problem and addressed the issue. It should be coming off the spool in a cc direction. Good fishing my friend!!
Thank you soo much for these lessons. I know this is a small accomplishment but watching this video gave me the confidence to successfully spool my own reel. Plus I used braid for the first time.
Yep there is no way of putting line on a spinning reel without twist unless you take the spool off and spin it on the same way it comes off the spool of line. I use a shaft and spool cap off of an old reel and put it in a drill.
You don't have to flip the bale. If you forget, just take off the spool and reseat it after flipping the bale open. No need to cut the line and do it over.
5:07.. I watched a Roland Martin vid on spooling line onto a reel and he will keep on flipping the spool every time he sees any twists forming.. that was a first for me but I think he knows more about fishing than ALL of us Utubers ;)
Here is another tip. Let's say your spool holds 300 yards of 20 pound braid, but you have a partial spool, say 220 yards or so. That is still a lot of line and you want to use it but you don't want the line to be so low on the spool you can't cast well. Here is what you do--IF you have another spool that is exactly the same size and line capacity. Take the short spool--the 220 yard/300 yard capacity spool. Tie on a mono top shot, right to the edge, dead on. Now, take off the spool, and put on the empty same sized spool. Tie on the mono and then transfer the contents, mono first, (of course) onto the new spool. Logic dictates that the mono, and then Braid will spool onto the new, empty spool. After filling, the BRAID will come completely off right where you want it-to the edge of the new spool.
with two spools of the same capacity if you are short to the lip on your existing spool attatch mono until it is flush to the lip. now attatch the end of that mono to the new spool and wind until the new reel has the perfect amount of line on. (shorter version) amazing idea mate i will be using this tip right now!
Thx for this video.. there are more than one train of thought or opinion.. spool flat label up or spool vertical line coming off top label right side... who knows which is better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on spooling braid. I just finished my 1st spool and can’t wait to try it out. Now all I need is the lake to open up. Still iced in.
I finally bought braid line. I watched this tutorial andwas confused so I checked the comments but no one daid anything. You reeled the line clockwise...check. but you also instructed for the line to come off its spool clockwise AND with the spool sticker facing up. The line does not come off the spool clockwise w sticker facing up. Anyway I had someone hold the string spool vertically to split the difference. I tried the line for the first time and I couldnt believe the sensitivity. I did catch a largemouth on the first outing. It ran for a branch and got caught up in it. i reeled them both in no problem. I would have lost the fish with mono. Thanks for the instruction on spooling the line.
Umm yeah if you forget to flip the bail just undo the drag and take the spool off then flip the bail open and screw the spool back on and bam! it's fixed fyi. ;)
All my Daiwa or Shimano reels come with user manuals and both makers stress on NOT to apply a line from a flat laying spool on the table like you do but use vertically on a pencil or whatever. Using your way each loop creates one spiral that will backlash during casting making it look like fishing with confetti and ending up with spaghetti! Now, one needs nylon when a spool is designed for more braid than available or intended to use. In such case what I do is put on braid first and than on top of it I continue with nylon until the spool is almost full (depends on reel performance etc.) Then I remove all and wind all back in desired order. Otherwise electrician's tape will do the job. Happy fishing!
Thanks for your question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid/?RUclips&RUclips%20Annotation&RUclips
I have an electric line spooler that allows me to remove the spool from the reel and spool it with no twists whatsoever, that being said, you don't want your line twistless on the spool. When you make a cast, the line will twist one turn with every loop off the spool making hundreds of twists between the reel and the end of your line (and your next PB). When you lift your lure out of the water between casts, several twists come out...especially if you have a line-break. In short order, the first hundred foot or so off your reel ends up twisted on the spool anyway. Letting the spinning reel be a spinning reel puts all the twists on the spool and when you cast, the twists come out and you won't have any between the reel and end of line. Then when reeled back in, the reel puts the twists back onto the spool. Best practice is to spool it as you would a baitcaster, applying tension to the filler spool and not holding the line. Tight lines!
Hector Ramirez Hey Hector, I'm glad to see that you enjoyed this spooling method. It's of course impossible to not get absolutely zero line twists, so I often do this to clear out any that may have formed when spooling: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator/.
I agree that the braid should come off the end of the spool in the same rotation direction as the reel to reduce twisting. So why does Power Pro spools have a pair of notches on the rim so feeding of the spool end is so difficult?
Can spool on to an old reel first and use it to set the drag to get a consistent tension on the line while spooling the reel you are going to be using.
After you are done with putting the line on, take off drag and then spool. Place spool in medium hot water covering the whole spool for about 10 minutes and that will tighten up your line and shrink it down to where you don't have wind knots!!! Dry off and grease up spool again! Mr Hedypoo being fishing for 60 years!
Thanks for the tip. I used to do this when I used mono back in the day, but I didn't continue once I switched to braid assuming it didn't work. I'll give it a shot next time I re-spool. Fish On!
Pulling the knot at 2:27 you frayed your monofilament. Can really see the fray at 2:29. I find it easier to just cut the tag vs. fraying the line just as you have done.
Great video..THANKS... Instead of a rag or papertowel only, I always spray mine heavily with REELMAGIC. It keeps the abrasion burn down and helps treat the line as it goes on. of coarse I always use REEL MAGIC to keep my line smooth and gear clean before and after fishing.
Thank you for the video. One thing that should be done differently in my opinion, is to tie an overhand knot in the tag end to act as a stop/brake when you pull the line tight around the spool. : ) Tyler
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+Salt Strong if trying to catch larger fish offshore or surf fishing, don't use mono under braid, the braid will sink into the mono and break your line. I suggest using electrical tape or buying a reel that has a rubber strip around the spool
+Matthew Herzog I prefer monofilament. Electrical tape leaves a sticky residue on my spool and I can easily have a much bigger backing with mono so I can use less braid and save more line and money.
True, you don't need backing, but if you're using say, a 4000 shimano and decide to be ten or 8 pound braid ( some people like to use one reel on multiple rods with just changing the spool. ) then a layer of mono underneath the braid will fill up the spool in case the braid amount you bought doesn't fill the reel. My $0.02
On Lake Erie for walleye and or perch, I have always used 8lb. Braided n 10lb flourocarbon. Never lost one yet more than at the swivel knot from old age. My fault.
Good video as always but one quick question brother when u tie the 2 over hand knot and place it over spool then tie another over hand knot as your pulling the line tight to cinch it on spool the friction wouldn't cause the line to burn?
Yes, but the knot to the spool should never be tested because it'll undoubtedly break if a fish actually pulls all of the line out... instead, the angler should always stop the spool from letting out more line before it's all the way out as shown in this post: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-never-get-spooled/
Some of the newer reels have rubber on the spool for slippage. i guess you could just go straight braid or would you still recommend the mono to braid?
Thanks for the question. Please check out the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, our team can respond back directly with their recommendations. You can find it here: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid
for a couple of dollars u can by a spool holder i just stick it to my window and tie the braided line rite on the spool with a slip knot and just reel away it never slips and you can adjust the tension on the spool holder and they work great i think i paid under $10 for the spool holder
big ron you might find youre getting funny drag problems. If you dont tape or put mono backing youre probably going get ghost drag. The whole braid winds will spin on the spool and you wont realise it at first. Take my advice I had braid on all my gear and thought all my drags were out but I knew that was super unlikely.
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What kind of knot did you use? FG? Double uni? Crazy Alberto? Lol I personally use the double uni because I can remember it easily and do it. I can't tie any knots fast but I don't do anything fast. Fishing is a patient sport. Until the fish is on but you have to maintain patience
Thanks for the nice comment! The lines used in this video are 10 lb braid made by PowerPro and 10 lb mono made by Ande. In this case, the mono doesn't matter much because there is so little of it (I'd start palming the spool before ever letting a fish get that much line out). However, I sometimes fill half of the spool with mono in order to split a 300 yd spool of braid into 4 different 75 yard sections so it can cover 4 re-spools vs. just 2... because that 75 yards is still plenty of line (I've caught 40 inch reds on the flats with that sort of setup and none of the ever got into the mono section.
Basic_Fishing Yes, the same mono to braid sequence should work on any type of reel. I agree with you that braided line is best for fishing the surf... much less drag on the waves/current and the thinner/lighter braid allows for a much longer casts compared to a 100% mono setup.
melanie buie Hey Melanie, my apologies for taking so long to reply... I've been out on travel and somehow missed this comment while out. Anyhow, the line you need is dependent on the type of fishing you like to do. So far, I haven't found one brand that is the one-size-fits-all best. I typically use PowerPro since it's the easiest to find and has helped me consistently catch quality fish... most often use 10 lb test with 2500 reels for inshore fishing (great for inshore species up to ~40 inch reds on the flats), and I'll bump up to a larger reels (4000 or 5000) with 20 or 30 lb braid when going for big snook/reds in the current (inlets/passes) or when going after tarpon. Hopefully this helps!
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Doing that last tip is all you need to do to get any twist out. I’ve been doing that for years. Works great. Just make sure you do it without anything tied on. You can do it out in your yard also.
+birenmyron Be sure to give the FG knot a try... it is thinner than the Alberto and has tested to be over 20% stronger too. Here's a test we did on these knots recently: www.saltstrong.com/articles/albright-vs-alberto-vs-fg-knot/.
Good video, thank you. The one thing people forget when tying onto the spool is creating a strong enough knot that would hold the rod/reel should you lose the rod overboard. If that spool knot breaks--like a square knot would using mono--yer skrewed. A better knot will hold should you get a handle on the line if a rod goes seaward.
He's right, not many fish will spool you, unless it's something like a tarpon or a shark AR a bull red. Those things will spool your line in about a minute with his reel. Personally I've never been spooled, I always have my line locked almost all the way down, and I've been snapped off many times.
Joshua Couling Hey Joshua, thanks for the support. When using a spinning reel of any size, all you have to do to ensure all line doesn't get taken is grab onto the spool so it cannot got out (best to tighten drag all the way down first)... in most cases, the line to leader knot will break since it's most often the weakest link in the system. Always stinks to leave a hook in a fish, but better to leave it with just a couple feet of line vs a couple hundred feet.
I meant stradic. How do you like using the stradic for saltwater any corrosion problems. I ise them in fresh but was wondering how they hold up in salt
Joe Greco I absolutely love the Stradic Ci4 for inshore fishing. So far, I have not had any corrosion problems... but I've only recently upgraded to the Stradic (been using heavily since January of this year). Although I've only been using them for ~ 5 months, I did accidentally drop one in the water while paddleboard fishing and it's still working like new even though I only sprayed it down with fresh water when I got home (didn't bother with taking it apart because I was curious to see how it handled the dunk so I could do a video review about it). In fact, the reel that got dunked caught a nice tarpon with ease a month after the incident and it still is working great. Here's a video on the tarpon catch - ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html.
okay thanks a lot for that i am glad to hear that because it is one of my favorite reels to use and i am now looking forward to using them this summer down in florida for snook and tarpon.
Joe Greco Best of luck to you this summer in FL! Yes, the Stradic will do just fine out there... just be sure to spray it down with fresh water after using it.
People do it this way to save on using a lot of braid.(save money) Most times the mono don't ever get exposed to light or water. It's more like a filler. But still using 200yrds of brain is a lot to play with unless you're planing in targeting bugger fish or droning out your lines for surf casting.
Much better to put a pencil through the original spool and have someone help you by letting the line unwind as the spool turns on the pencil in the opposite direction that the spool was filled by the manufacturer. Your helper can also keep tension on the spool with his/her fingers as the line unwinds ensuring tight coils on the reel spool. Doing it this way avoids line twist that results from having the spool sitting on the table face up as you wind line on the reel. You can actually see the line twist at the first guide as he begins to fill his spool. Just my 2 cents...
I used to not care about my backer knots either. About a year ago I was smallmouth fishing using 10lb braid to a 6lb fluorocarbon leader to a neko rig senko. I was catching bass all day it was a great day. Then I had a 13 lb striper bite. I have never seen a striper bite something like that, bit this one did. I got me to within a foot of my knot and I was sweating bullets and thinking I was going to lose it. Luckily I was able to tighten my drag down enough to reel him in.
i have question i spooled braid on my catfish rod its 50 lb spider wire stealth braid i put electrical tape on for a grip but the line is loose is hat going to effect me at all
+sean house If the line is loose, then you'll likely run into problems... best to reload it (either go to an open field and walk the line out before reeling it back in or use another reel to wind it onto another spool).
Quick question for you.. If you are allowing the line come off the new package/spool with the label facing upwards so that it places the line on your reel in the same rotation as the bail is winding the line onto the spool why do you find it necessary to trail your line behind your boat on your way out to the flat, won't you then just add line twist when you reel in that 100 or so feet of line?
Trailing the line at the end isn't necessary, but it can be helpful because it's pretty much impossible to spool a spinning reel without a single twist... some twists certainly form even when using the right rotation in regards to the line spool and the reel because the diameters of the spools are different sizes.
Is it preferred to have the same size diameter on the backing and the braided line? like If I use a 0,10 braided line, should I be using a 0,10 backing as well?
It is ok to not have the same diameter lines on the spool... just know what breaking points they have so that you don't lose the top section of line in the event of a big fish getting into the backing (I typically use the same if not stronger line as backing for that reason).
After I spool the braid on would it be ok to loosen the drag and have someone hold the end of the line while I walk the pole across my yard to pull out any twists in the line?
The best way to clear out twists from line in a spinning reel is to do what is shown in this post: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator/ If no access to a boat, then do the same thing in a grass field.
@@Saltstrong So just release the bail and walk it out across the yard and let the twists naturally work themselves out? I have a large yard so it's no problem.
if i am using 8 pound braid i should use 8 pound mono for that first part correct ? I'm getting a Kastking Sharky 1500 which holds 110 yards of 8 pound test, also guessing about 100 yards is the sweet spot for most situations if I'm just dock fishing?
+Gilbert Bridewell That bottom section is primarily for friction to ensure that the line sticks to the spool, so any size mono will work. But if you're loading a good amount of mono to save some money on braid, then I'd recommend going up a higher level of mono to get some more strength in case you hook into something really big. As far as line capacity goes, it's all about your target species... 100 yards is great for most species from a dock (sheepshead, snapper, trout, flounder, etc.), but it's a bit short for bigger/strong fish like tarpon or sharks. Long story short, there's no one size fits all solution... all depends on what you're targeting.
good video but the previous video I watched says to spool on the line counter clockwise? this video says you should spool on the line comming off the spool clockwise the same way as the reel? which is the correct way? does anybody know??
Hi I've never tried braid and was thinking about using but had a concern. When I tie a fluorocarbon leader to the braid will the knot interfere with my cast? I'm concerned about the knot not going through the eye very easily is this true?
+Fred Beer We recommend tying a 2 to 2.5 ft. leader so that you can make a cast without reeling the knot through the guides. But if you do have to reel the knot up into the guides, then be sure to check out the FG knot because it is the thinnest option and happens to also be the strongest braid to fluoro knot that we've tested so far. Here's a link to see exactly how we construct our leaders for inshore fishing: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-a-fishing-leader-for-snook-redfish-seatrout/
+Salt Strong Is one to assume that most casts should be done with the lure hanging 2-2.5ft from the rod tip? I have been casting with lures about 1ft from the tip of the rod.
+Ethan Knack Yes, it's best to have the extra length of line out so that you can use a 2ft" leader while also keeping from casting the knots through the guides. But using the 1 ft of line method allows for better accuracy, so I do that whenever in need of placing my lure into a tight spot.
Today I bought 270 metres of 8 pound rover air strike braid and put it on my reel with a mono backing but the braid seems very loose even though I did this exactly how you did. How can I get rid of this?
Bailey lougheed There are several ways to fix it. My top recommendation would be to use this line twist eliminator method (www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator) to let the line out and then reel it back in while applying sufficient tension on the line with your fingers and wet rag. If you don't have access to a boat, then you can go to an open field and tie the end of the line to a fixed object before walking back with the spool open... once most of the line is out, then you can slowly walk back while reeling in the line while keeping the line tight against the fixed object. If you don't have access to a boat or a field, then you can get another spool that is similar in size and reel the line onto it, and then reel it back onto the current spool using more pressure to ensure that the braid is tight.
I didn't read all of the comments but I saw the nasty one. I actually use just about the same pressure as you do: just a good firm finger pinch and reel it on tight that way. I don't buy the argument that it has to be pulled incredibly tight simply because that sort of tensile pressure would find a way to relieve itself anyway, certainly as soon as one loosens the drag at the end of the day. And, the only time I ever have line issues is, like you said, when I over-spool a reel. My Ci4+ hates that! Hmm? Aaron Martens, arguably one of the top pro bass fishermen today, says spinning reels, assuming the line spool is standing up, should be reeled "from the bottom" while bait casters are fed new line from the top. This ensures that the bias of the line remains the same. Likely, not near the issue with braid owing to its characteristics, but worth a note. *** I've seen your FG video. Have you started using it from your backer mono to braid main line now? It is mighty skinny but may not be worth the extra effort. Great stuff. Keep it coming! Brad
Brad Reid Hey Brad, thanks for leaving the nice message. The comment you referred to was from a tuna fisherman who apparently deals with big game and very strong drag systems... and I agree with him that the added tension is better. But going through all that trouble isn't necessary for inshore anglers. When applying the line, I just leave the spool logo facing up (PowerPro). It's impossible to keep all twists out, so I then often drag it behind the boat to ensure that it's as clear as possible - here's a video showing the line clearing trick (great for right after spooling and after using a lure that twists): www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator. Yes, I now use the FG knot for all braid to mono connections including the one at the bottom of the real because its so thin and strong (plus I can now tie it about as quickly as any other).
+Dave Wargo Yes, we recently made a new video to clarify the rotation needs of the spool in relation to the reel as well as to add a tip on saving money on future spools - ruclips.net/video/yxHAX0-GUkc/видео.html.
It seems like more and more reels are doing that which is great. But I still use mono backing for saving money on the braid as shown in this video: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid/
rule of thumb, for casting you take it off from the center of the spool of line, same way it was spun onto the spool of line, for spinning you pull it off the end, the same way it spins onto the reel, the end or top, and yes for left handed spinning flip that spool over label down..
Salt Strong I have read and been told that it is imperative that the line coming off the spool travel in the same direction as the spool in order to avoid line twists, birdnests and/or loops. In this case, the spool of your CI4 (when facing the reel from the rear), turns in a counter clockwise motion. I (think I) noticed, that in your video, both mono and braid are coming off the spools in a clockwise manner. Wouldn't this cause significantly more line twists? Thanks again for sharing the video.
Nam Hoang Great question! Yes, the loading should be done in opposite directions when placing a spool of line on the ground like this to minimize twists. I use PowerPro 99% of the time and they're spools always have the logo on the side that faces up and I simply assumed Fins did the same... Fins spools need to be set with logo side down. Fortunately, I always do this quick line twist eliminator trick to clear the line before using it so I didn't have any issues at all with this spool: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator.
Salt Strong +OF CV Thank you for your comments! however both left me a bit more confused as before. According to OF CV's comment, he suggests that the line coming off the spool (let's say clockwise as you look down on the spool from above as it sits on the table, should be coming on the reel in the OPPOSITE direction if you were to be looking at the reel from the butt of the reel (facing the butt of the rod towards the rod tip). This is actually (if I am seeing it correctly) how you are currently doing it in your video. However, according to your comment above (and your reply to another commentor prior), i "think" you are suggesting that you may have made a mistake in the tutorial and that the spool should be flipped, such that the line comes off the reel in the SAME direction as the spool, assuming you were looking at the reel from the end of the reel and if you were looking at the spool from the top of the spool as it sits on the table. Please correct me if I am mistaken, but it appears the two replies are contradicting each other? Perhaps we can use the CI4 as a reference to avoid any confusion, which spins counter-clockwise as I view it from the "rear". Given this, as I view the filler spool sitting on the table, which way should the line be coming off the spool? For what it's worth, I have a few bulk spools powerpro and the line comes off the spool clockwise with the label facing up (perhaps different than their filler spools?). I have a couple filler spools of Suffix 832 and that line comes off counter-clockwise the label facing up. Also, your tutorial on the FG knot is fantastic. Thanks again for the video!
Salt Strong Nice video and thanks for the work. To be clear, your video was never about which direction spool and reel should be spinning to load line. I just saw Nam's question and KNOW it is a source of confusion. Also, always remember that most nasty comments are from immature youth or puerile adults...maybe internet access from a work release program.
OF CV thank you for the clarification, and that is how I understood your comment to read. That being said, I believe that Salt Strong comment was suggesting that the line should come off the spool in the opposite direction that you are recommending.
I have a problem. I wanted to start with mono to save some of my braid for another spool. I'm using a Shimano Sahara and I reeled in maybe 2 layers of mono and then did a double uni to braid. The problem is both the original knot(mono to spool) and the braid to mono knot interfere with my braid coming off the spool when I sling that sucker really far. What should I do? Can I just do a basic overhand knot for the mono to braid since I don't plan on fishing it down to that knot anyways? I want to reiterate that when I cast the braid gets stuck on the leader knot and the original spool knot which I just did 2 overhand knots for that as well. Sometimes it slips and I feel a thump thump thump over the knots as the braid is coming off, and sometimes it just sticks and my lure stops suddenly mid flight
It's a 2500 reel(forgot to mention). 20 lb braid. I was actually thinking that I didn't put enough on but it appears that I am about 1/8 inch from max capacity which is what I hear you should leave. Maybe my estimation on the 1/8 inch is off a bit. My buddy who is experienced told me today that a double uni should be fine for mono to braid in the spool. He said I may not have clipped the tag end down enough but I clipped it as close as possible. I'm pretty sure you are right that I can afford to put more on there. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I am still learning a lot of this stuff
I recommend spooling it on until there is a 1/16 inch gap from the outer layer of the spool of line and the top edge of the reel. And with a 2500 size reel, I always use 10 lb braid which has plenty of power to handle big fish. Here's footage of a tarpon I landed on a 2500 reel with 10 lb braid: ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html
Haha that's awesome man! Well, I primarily bass fish and am on a budget(aka I don't have the money to buy a setup for every situation) so I kind of plan to have a versatile setup, one of which is capable of pulling bass out of semi-substantial cover if need be but mostly finesse application. I use 20 lb braid to a 16 lb. fluoro leader. Perhaps 20 lb. is overkill for what I had in mind, I'm not too sure. Maybe 15 lb. would be a better compromise? Just sort of kicking myself at the thought of switching because I just bought 450 yards of 20 lb. Again, I appreciate your insight.
I believe what I will do is re-spool until the 1/16 inch mark and see if that takes care of my long cast issue. If not, I will highly consider a lower pound braid. Because that makes sense, less diameter braid, more line length on spool. Thanks for the help. Have a good one.
The drag from the water is surprisingly strong... just get about 6 ft of it to be touching the water, and it'll be enough drag to pull the rest of the line out of the spool.
i got a question, what do you if you the braid doesnt fill up the spool on the reel? like as in you would put some mono underneath the braid for braid to stick on to it, but then you use up all your braid 300m and it only fills up your spool about 3/4 of the way
Here's a post that shows how to manage your line so that all re-spools use the exact amount of line you need to have no wasted line: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid/
I use an Albright knot when putting mono to braid, the knot will hold even if you go below it on the spool. I put the link in the comments section!! Your welcome!! 👍👊😁💪🎣 Tight lines !!!
Great video thanks mate..looking to scrap my mono line that came with the reel. Went for a flick last night and got wind knots every second cast squidding. I find if you are casting so much from land, and squidding, its best to have braided line, that stuff launches like a mf and no wind knots.
I am always in search for the best overall value rod, so I get new ones frequently to test out for our members. Here's a link to see which ones have been reviewed so far: www.saltstrong.com/article_categories/fishing-rods/
Thank you for the demo. As a kid, my pole was already setup. 32 now, finally gonna' take up fishing for some father-son time.
Even though this is basic information that any beginner should know, you still presented this in a straightforward manner, that the novice can understand. This is the BEST fishing channel on RUclips.
Braided line is the best thing that ever happened to spinning gear. I keep four on my deck I normally do fifty percent backing and fifty percent braid. Mono is less expensive than braid plus braid is so tough it lasts longer. Good job on spooling. The leader knot is the critical knot.
Good teaching. Unlike many other demonstrations, you showed all the components working together. Good camara placement. Thanks for your mindfulness on this respect.
Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment on the Spooling a Spinning rod video. Fish On!
For people fishing rivers, that last tip works the same there - just let out line and let the river current get out any twist you may have. Works for mono just the same, so either way - when you first notice twist in your line, take the lure/bait/hook off and just let out the line and let it hang there a minute or two and you're back to twist free (virtually, anyway) spin fishing. Great video. Thanks for making it. Clearly thousands and thousands of people have found this helpful! :)
Thanks!
MR-FLIP, the reel used in this video is a Shimano Stradic CI4 (3000 series). Thanks for leaving a comment. Fish On!
temple fork outfitters rod ???? nice i have a 4000 saros fi on it nice combo 7'6"
+Broward County Yes, I'm becoming a huge fan of TFO after trying out some of their rods... here's one teamed up with a 2500 shimano landing a decent tarpon on 10 lb test: ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html.
+Salt Strong likewise landed a nice 41" snook in jupiter fl backcountry
+Broward County Nice work... Fish On!
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and make sure you DONT do this under a ceiling fan.....just sayin
I did and my fan hit my brand new lews speed rod
Been there!!! Never damaged a rod but I have put them in the ceiling fan! scary stuff.
Been there, done that , got the t-shirt.
Or anywhere near your cat
Damn ain’t that the truth! Never happened to me..... said nobody ever! 🤣 Loved hearing reel spins clockwise line comes off clockwise..... label up! Thank you saltstrong!👍
Just read a comment way down there and someone else said the same thing. You mentioned the label problem and addressed the issue. It should be coming off the spool in a cc direction. Good fishing my friend!!
Thank you! Reel spins clockwise line comes off spool clockwise. Love your channel!👍
Thank you soo much for these lessons. I know this is a small accomplishment but watching this video gave me the confidence to successfully spool my own reel. Plus I used braid for the first time.
I'm going to replace the mono on my 6' 6" medium action spinning rod with braid so I have more bite sensitivity--thanks!
thank u, the only actually clear guide through every step
Thank you for checking it out!
I'm so glad you said at the end to just let a load off behind the boat its the best possible way to get all twists out.
Yep there is no way of putting line on a spinning reel without twist unless you take the spool off and spin it on the same way it comes off the spool of line. I use a shaft and spool cap off of an old reel and put it in a drill.
You don't have to flip the bale. If you forget, just take off the spool and reseat it after flipping the bale open. No need to cut the line and do it over.
Do you have to tie braided line to mono line?
@Chief Bubba You should
That guy
5:07.. I watched a Roland Martin vid on spooling line onto a reel and he will keep on flipping the spool every time he sees any twists forming.. that was a first for me but I think he knows more about fishing than ALL of us Utubers ;)
Here is another tip. Let's say your spool holds 300 yards of 20 pound braid, but you have a partial spool, say 220 yards or so. That is still a lot of line and you want to use it but you don't want the line to be so low on the spool you can't cast well. Here is what you do--IF you have another spool that is exactly the same size and line capacity. Take the short spool--the 220 yard/300 yard capacity spool. Tie on a mono top shot, right to the edge, dead on. Now, take off the spool, and put on the empty same sized spool. Tie on the mono and then transfer the contents, mono first, (of course) onto the new spool. Logic dictates that the mono, and then Braid will spool onto the new, empty spool. After filling, the BRAID will come completely off right where you want it-to the edge of the new spool.
+Jmichael Isbell holy crap that's brilliant
had to read that 3 times to understand but that's a great idea!
Wish I could say I though of it, but someone showed me of course. As you say, simple but brilliant idea that has to work.
Yeah, but I explained it horribly. I am revising it, to say it more plainly, see above
its slightly hard to follow
with two spools of the same capacity if you are short to the lip on your existing spool attatch mono until it is flush to the lip. now attatch the end of that mono to the new spool and wind until the new reel has the perfect amount of line on. (shorter version) amazing idea mate i will be using this tip right now!
Thx for this video.. there are more than one train of thought or opinion.. spool flat label up or spool vertical line coming off top label right side... who knows which is better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on spooling braid.
I just finished my 1st spool and can’t wait to try it out.
Now all I need is the lake to open up. Still iced in.
How'd it go?
I finally bought braid line. I watched this tutorial andwas confused so I checked the comments but no one daid anything. You reeled the line clockwise...check. but you also instructed for the line to come off its spool clockwise AND with the spool sticker facing up. The line does not come off the spool clockwise w sticker facing up. Anyway I had someone hold the string spool vertically to split the difference. I tried the line for the first time and I couldnt believe the sensitivity. I did catch a largemouth on the first outing. It ran for a branch and got caught up in it. i reeled them both in no problem. I would have lost the fish with mono. Thanks for the instruction on spooling the line.
Thanks for the feedback!
Umm yeah if you forget to flip the bail just undo the drag and take the spool off then flip the bail open and screw the spool back on and bam! it's fixed fyi. ;)
I just unscrew and remove the bail, put the line thru then screw the bail back in. Lol
Dammit, why didn't I see this before, I just cut the line and retied it, wasn't that big a deal but the shot to the ego took a minute to deal with.
@@biggiecheese5135 lol
I've had to pop the spool off more times than I'd like to admit, but it's no big deal.
I've never tried mono -> braid first, brilliant man!
What’s the point of it
All my Daiwa or Shimano reels come with user manuals and both makers stress on NOT to apply a line from a flat laying spool on the table like you do but use vertically on a pencil or whatever. Using your way each loop creates one spiral that will backlash during casting making it look like fishing with confetti and ending up with spaghetti! Now, one needs nylon when a spool is designed for more braid than available or intended to use. In such case what I do is put on braid first and than on top of it I continue with nylon until the spool is almost full (depends on reel performance etc.) Then I remove all and wind all back in desired order. Otherwise electrician's tape will do the job. Happy fishing!
Great video thanks what is the pound test for the backing
Thanks for your question! Make sure to ask this over on the actual blog or in the Community
where the coaches spend their time. The blog can be found here: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid/?RUclips&RUclips%20Annotation&RUclips
I have an electric line spooler that allows me to remove the spool from the reel and spool it with no twists whatsoever, that being said, you don't want your line twistless on the spool. When you make a cast, the line will twist one turn with every loop off the spool making hundreds of twists between the reel and the end of your line (and your next PB). When you lift your lure out of the water between casts, several twists come out...especially if you have a line-break. In short order, the first hundred foot or so off your reel ends up twisted on the spool anyway. Letting the spinning reel be a spinning reel puts all the twists on the spool and when you cast, the twists come out and you won't have any between the reel and end of line. Then when reeled back in, the reel puts the twists back onto the spool. Best practice is to spool it as you would a baitcaster, applying tension to the filler spool and not holding the line. Tight lines!
Love them Stradic reels. Have 6 of them now.
You should have bought daiwa ballistics👍
Now I build my own rods to. Excellent with the Stradics.
I have a shimano stradic ci4+ 3000 too! Good reels! I used your method and spooled it with sufix 832 20lb braid in a camo color. Thank you sir!
Hector Ramirez Hey Hector, I'm glad to see that you enjoyed this spooling method. It's of course impossible to not get absolutely zero line twists, so I often do this to clear out any that may have formed when spooling: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator/.
Salt Strong I'll try it! Thanks again.
I agree that the braid should come off the end of the spool in the same rotation direction as the reel to reduce twisting. So why does Power Pro spools have a pair of notches on the rim so feeding of the spool end is so difficult?
Can spool on to an old reel first and use it to set the drag to get a consistent tension on the line while spooling the reel you are going to be using.
Thanks! Exactly the info I needed!
Glad it was helpful!
These guys always have research and experience behind their advice
After you are done with putting the line on, take off drag and then spool. Place spool in medium hot water covering the whole spool for about 10 minutes and that will tighten up your line and shrink it down to where you don't have wind knots!!! Dry off and grease up spool again! Mr Hedypoo being fishing for 60 years!
Thanks for the tip. I used to do this when I used mono back in the day, but I didn't continue once I switched to braid assuming it didn't work. I'll give it a shot next time I re-spool. Fish On!
+Salt Strong 👍
Salt Strong knowledge
I tried that and it works fine! Thanks for the tip
Don Julio and spelling for 3 months
Cool red color STRADIC!!
I like this model😍😘😁❤️💕
Pulling the knot at 2:27 you frayed your monofilament. Can really see the fray at 2:29. I find it easier to just cut the tag vs. fraying the line just as you have done.
Thanks for sharing your expertise on Braided line for a spinning reel...
Great video..THANKS...
Instead of a rag or papertowel only, I always spray mine heavily with REELMAGIC. It keeps the abrasion burn down and helps treat the line as it goes on.
of coarse I always use REEL MAGIC to keep my line smooth and gear clean before and after fishing.
Thank you for the video.
One thing that should be done differently in my opinion, is to tie an overhand knot in the tag end to act as a stop/brake when you pull the line tight around the spool.
: ) Tyler
i liked because it’s been 4 years with no like
I use power pro braid 10 lb and it spools fine on mine, plus I use about a foot leader of 20lb invisible for a leader
what brand is that casting rod?
We do apologize as this video is several years old and we are not sure what we were using in the video at this time. We do recommend checking out the rods that we all our coaches are using daily now here: fishstrong.com/collections/rods-1 and let us know if we can help in any way. Thank you!
@Salt Strong, but when you put a wet tissue and squeeze thebraid , you wiped an important layer from it that protects it
Thanks for the input
very well explained. Worked well. Thank you.
Glad to see that you enjoyed the video. Tight Lines!
Some nice, thick electrical tape on the spool will keep the braid from slipping. No need for mono layer.
+Matthew Herzog Yes, the electrical tape on the spool is certainly a good option. Thanks for leaving the helpful comment. Fish On!
Very smart! Thank you both
+Salt Strong if trying to catch larger fish offshore or surf fishing, don't use mono under braid, the braid will sink into the mono and break your line. I suggest using electrical tape or buying a reel that has a rubber strip around the spool
+Matthew Herzog That's what I do. Works great.
+Matthew Herzog I prefer monofilament. Electrical tape leaves a sticky residue on my spool and I can easily have a much bigger backing with mono so I can use less braid and save more line and money.
True, you don't need backing, but if you're using say, a 4000 shimano and decide to be ten or 8 pound braid ( some people like to use one reel on multiple rods with just changing the spool. ) then a layer of mono underneath the braid will fill up the spool in case the braid amount you bought doesn't fill the reel. My $0.02
I have banax ST 7000c .
Can i it the same way ?
But my reel is only SHOWS LINE
Should the pound test of the mono line be the same as braided?
On Lake Erie for walleye and or perch, I have always used 8lb. Braided n 10lb flourocarbon. Never lost one yet more than at the swivel knot from old age. My fault.
Good video as always but one quick question brother when u tie the 2 over hand knot and place it over spool then tie another over hand knot as your pulling the line tight to cinch it on spool the friction wouldn't cause the line to burn?
Yes, but the knot to the spool should never be tested because it'll undoubtedly break if a fish actually pulls all of the line out... instead, the angler should always stop the spool from letting out more line before it's all the way out as shown in this post: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-never-get-spooled/
Some of the newer reels have rubber on the spool for slippage. i guess you could just go straight braid or would you still recommend the mono to braid?
I still use a mono backing so I can save money on braid (the mono fills up some space that otherwise would take a lot of braid to fill up.
@@Saltstrong Thanks. I am going to try it.
I have 0,30mm mono on right now and want to supplement with 0,18mm multi, will that cause trouble?
Thanks for the question. Please check out the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, our team can respond back directly with their recommendations. You can find it here: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid
👍👍👍 great job teacher.
for a couple of dollars u can by a spool holder i just stick it to my window and tie the braided line rite on the spool with a slip knot and just reel away it never slips and you can adjust the tension on the spool holder and they work great i think i paid under $10 for the spool holder
big ron you might find youre getting funny drag problems. If you dont tape or put mono backing youre probably going get ghost drag. The whole braid winds will spin on the spool and you wont realise it at first. Take my advice I had braid on all my gear and thought all my drags were out but I knew that was super unlikely.
Right on!!! I have always been wanting to find out the good tricks.
Hey Benaiah, we're thrilled to see that you enjoyed the video. If you like the simple tricks in this video, then you'll love the ones we give on our website - www.saltstrong.com.
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Sure do; thanks!
What kind of knot did you use? FG? Double uni? Crazy Alberto? Lol I personally use the double uni because I can remember it easily and do it. I can't tie any knots fast but I don't do anything fast. Fishing is a patient sport. Until the fish is on but you have to maintain patience
what was the weight of the braid and the mono? good video btw
Thanks for the nice comment! The lines used in this video are 10 lb braid made by PowerPro and 10 lb mono made by Ande. In this case, the mono doesn't matter much because there is so little of it (I'd start palming the spool before ever letting a fish get that much line out). However, I sometimes fill half of the spool with mono in order to split a 300 yd spool of braid into 4 different 75 yard sections so it can cover 4 re-spools vs. just 2... because that 75 yards is still plenty of line (I've caught 40 inch reds on the flats with that sort of setup and none of the ever got into the mono section.
ohk cool thanks for that. so i can use the same principle on a surfcasting reel?
Basic_Fishing Yes, the same mono to braid sequence should work on any type of reel. I agree with you that braided line is best for fishing the surf... much less drag on the waves/current and the thinner/lighter braid allows for a much longer casts compared to a 100% mono setup.
ok cool thank you
Do you suggest using braid in ponds and lakes?
I use braid for everything
dylan ward So do I, Dylan... even tie lures with spare braid since it's so strong and durable - www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-a-bucktail-jig.
I have a penn fierce4000. For my ugly stik gx2 7' mh what's a good braided line for that? Nice video by the way.
melanie buie Hey Melanie, my apologies for taking so long to reply... I've been out on travel and somehow missed this comment while out. Anyhow, the line you need is dependent on the type of fishing you like to do. So far, I haven't found one brand that is the one-size-fits-all best. I typically use PowerPro since it's the easiest to find and has helped me consistently catch quality fish... most often use 10 lb test with 2500 reels for inshore fishing (great for inshore species up to ~40 inch reds on the flats), and I'll bump up to a larger reels (4000 or 5000) with 20 or 30 lb braid when going for big snook/reds in the current (inlets/passes) or when going after tarpon. Hopefully this helps!
Thanks that helps. Keep the video coming. .
melanie buie My pleasure, Malanie! We'll certainly keep the videos coming. If you haven't already done so, be sure to subscribe to our email newsletter on our website because we send subscribers our best fishing tips in addition to the most viral fishing videos on the web every week. Here's a link to our new site - www.saltstrong.com.
Doing that last tip is all you need to do to get any twist out. I’ve been doing that for years. Works great. Just make sure you do it without anything tied on. You can do it out in your yard also.
Mono to braid use crazy Alberto knot super easy and strong
+birenmyron Be sure to give the FG knot a try... it is thinner than the Alberto and has tested to be over 20% stronger too. Here's a test we did on these knots recently: www.saltstrong.com/articles/albright-vs-alberto-vs-fg-knot/.
Good video, thank you.
The one thing people forget when tying onto the spool is creating a strong enough knot that would hold the rod/reel should you lose the rod overboard. If that spool knot breaks--like a square knot would using mono--yer skrewed. A better knot will hold should you get a handle on the line if a rod goes seaward.
Been there, done that, this is a great point!
Some reels have little rubber strips on the spool so you can use braid direct
Helpful video, I'm a beginner so I'm wondering how much leader length do I need to attach to the braid after spooling that in, thanks!
Welcome! Thanks for checking it out!
He's right, not many fish will spool you, unless it's something like a tarpon or a shark AR a bull red. Those things will spool your line in about a minute with his reel. Personally I've never been spooled, I always have my line locked almost all the way down, and I've been snapped off many times.
Joshua Couling Hey Joshua, thanks for the support. When using a spinning reel of any size, all you have to do to ensure all line doesn't get taken is grab onto the spool so it cannot got out (best to tighten drag all the way down first)... in most cases, the line to leader knot will break since it's most often the weakest link in the system. Always stinks to leave a hook in a fish, but better to leave it with just a couple feet of line vs a couple hundred feet.
how do you like the stride in salt water does it hold up well?
Joe Greco Hey Joe, thanks for leaving the comment. I have never used the stride so unfortunately cannot give you a helpful answer to the question.
I meant stradic. How do you like using the stradic for saltwater any corrosion problems. I ise them in fresh but was wondering how they hold up in salt
Joe Greco I absolutely love the Stradic Ci4 for inshore fishing. So far, I have not had any corrosion problems... but I've only recently upgraded to the Stradic (been using heavily since January of this year).
Although I've only been using them for ~ 5 months, I did accidentally drop one in the water while paddleboard fishing and it's still working like new even though I only sprayed it down with fresh water when I got home (didn't bother with taking it apart because I was curious to see how it handled the dunk so I could do a video review about it).
In fact, the reel that got dunked caught a nice tarpon with ease a month after the incident and it still is working great. Here's a video on the tarpon catch - ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html.
okay thanks a lot for that i am glad to hear that because it is one of my favorite reels to use and i am now looking forward to using them this summer down in florida for snook and tarpon.
Joe Greco Best of luck to you this summer in FL! Yes, the Stradic will do just fine out there... just be sure to spray it down with fresh water after using it.
If a reel is braid ready do you still recommend a mono backing?
I was wondering that myself I put a mono backing on it.
People do it this way to save on using a lot of braid.(save money) Most times the mono don't ever get exposed to light or water. It's more like a filler. But still using 200yrds of brain is a lot to play with unless you're planing in targeting bugger fish or droning out your lines for surf casting.
Much better to put a pencil through the original spool and have someone help you by letting the line unwind as the spool turns on the pencil in the opposite direction that the spool was filled by the manufacturer. Your helper can also keep tension on the spool with his/her fingers as the line unwinds ensuring tight coils on the reel spool. Doing it this way avoids line twist that results from having the spool sitting on the table face up as you wind line on the reel. You can actually see the line twist at the first guide as he begins to fill his spool. Just my 2 cents...
I used to not care about my backer knots either. About a year ago I was smallmouth fishing using 10lb braid to a 6lb fluorocarbon leader to a neko rig senko. I was catching bass all day it was a great day. Then I had a 13 lb striper bite. I have never seen a striper bite something like that, bit this one did. I got me to within a foot of my knot and I was sweating bullets and thinking I was going to lose it. Luckily I was able to tighten my drag down enough to reel him in.
😂 RUclips recommends me this AFTER my line on my spool looks a mess.
Glad we could help haha!
i have question i spooled braid on my catfish rod its 50 lb spider wire stealth braid i put electrical tape on for a grip but the line is loose is hat going to effect me at all
+sean house If the line is loose, then you'll likely run into problems... best to reload it (either go to an open field and walk the line out before reeling it back in or use another reel to wind it onto another spool).
I'm winding the line unto an empty spool by hand than reeling it back in
Quick question for you.. If you are allowing the line come off the new package/spool with the label facing upwards so that it places the line on your reel in the same rotation as the bail is winding the line onto the spool why do you find it necessary to trail your line behind your boat on your way out to the flat, won't you then just add line twist when you reel in that 100 or so feet of line?
Trailing the line at the end isn't necessary, but it can be helpful because it's pretty much impossible to spool a spinning reel without a single twist... some twists certainly form even when using the right rotation in regards to the line spool and the reel because the diameters of the spools are different sizes.
Thank you for the quick response!
Is it preferred to have the same size diameter on the backing and the braided line? like If I use a 0,10 braided line, should I be using a 0,10 backing as well?
It is ok to not have the same diameter lines on the spool... just know what breaking points they have so that you don't lose the top section of line in the event of a big fish getting into the backing (I typically use the same if not stronger line as backing for that reason).
After I spool the braid on would it be ok to loosen the drag and have someone hold the end of the line while I walk the pole across my yard to pull out any twists in the line?
The best way to clear out twists from line in a spinning reel is to do what is shown in this post: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator/
If no access to a boat, then do the same thing in a grass field.
@@Saltstrong So just release the bail and walk it out across the yard and let the twists naturally work themselves out? I have a large yard so it's no problem.
Great video. Thanks for posting.
Excellent instruction...getting some new gear soon. Looking forward to trying this out.
I know this is from a while ago but do we not have to put the spool in hot water before using rod
Blood knots braid to mono or braid to wind on flouro leader have done me well. Have yet to have either fail.
if i am using 8 pound braid i should use 8 pound mono for that first part correct ? I'm getting a Kastking Sharky 1500 which holds 110 yards of 8 pound test, also guessing about 100 yards is the sweet spot for most situations if I'm just dock fishing?
+Gilbert Bridewell That bottom section is primarily for friction to ensure that the line sticks to the spool, so any size mono will work. But if you're loading a good amount of mono to save some money on braid, then I'd recommend going up a higher level of mono to get some more strength in case you hook into something really big. As far as line capacity goes, it's all about your target species... 100 yards is great for most species from a dock (sheepshead, snapper, trout, flounder, etc.), but it's a bit short for bigger/strong fish like tarpon or sharks. Long story short, there's no one size fits all solution... all depends on what you're targeting.
Thanks a bunch :)
+Salt Strong Very wise advise
good video but the previous video I watched says to spool on the line counter clockwise? this video says you should spool on the line comming off the spool clockwise the same way as the reel? which is the correct way? does anybody know??
I have a BG MQ 4000, 20lb braid can get 280.
Is it best to spool half mono then half braid, vs spooling the full 280?
Should you wet the rag? Will that not help the braid lay better? Ive head someone say that one time.
Nice explanation bro.
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
Hi I've never tried braid and was thinking about using but had a concern. When I tie a fluorocarbon leader to the braid will the knot interfere with my cast? I'm concerned about the knot not going through the eye very easily is this true?
+Fred Beer We recommend tying a 2 to 2.5 ft. leader so that you can make a cast without reeling the knot through the guides. But if you do have to reel the knot up into the guides, then be sure to check out the FG knot because it is the thinnest option and happens to also be the strongest braid to fluoro knot that we've tested so far. Here's a link to see exactly how we construct our leaders for inshore fishing: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-a-fishing-leader-for-snook-redfish-seatrout/
+Salt Strong Is one to assume that most casts should be done with the lure hanging 2-2.5ft from the rod tip? I have been casting with lures about 1ft from the tip of the rod.
+Ethan Knack Yes, it's best to have the extra length of line out so that you can use a 2ft" leader while also keeping from casting the knots through the guides.
But using the 1 ft of line method allows for better accuracy, so I do that whenever in need of placing my lure into a tight spot.
Today I bought 270 metres of 8 pound rover air strike braid and put it on my reel with a mono backing but the braid seems very loose even though I did this exactly how you did. How can I get rid of this?
Bailey lougheed There are several ways to fix it. My top recommendation would be to use this line twist eliminator method (www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator) to let the line out and then reel it back in while applying sufficient tension on the line with your fingers and wet rag.
If you don't have access to a boat, then you can go to an open field and tie the end of the line to a fixed object before walking back with the spool open... once most of the line is out, then you can slowly walk back while reeling in the line while keeping the line tight against the fixed object.
If you don't have access to a boat or a field, then you can get another spool that is similar in size and reel the line onto it, and then reel it back onto the current spool using more pressure to ensure that the braid is tight.
Ok thanks I will try that soon.
I didn't read all of the comments but I saw the nasty one. I actually use just about the same pressure as you do: just a good firm finger pinch and reel it on tight that way. I don't buy the argument that it has to be pulled incredibly tight simply because that sort of tensile pressure would find a way to relieve itself anyway, certainly as soon as one loosens the drag at the end of the day. And, the only time I ever have line issues is, like you said, when I over-spool a reel. My Ci4+ hates that! Hmm? Aaron Martens, arguably one of the top pro bass fishermen today, says spinning reels, assuming the line spool is standing up, should be reeled "from the bottom" while bait casters are fed new line from the top. This ensures that the bias of the line remains the same. Likely, not near the issue with braid owing to its characteristics, but worth a note. *** I've seen your FG video. Have you started using it from your backer mono to braid main line now? It is mighty skinny but may not be worth the extra effort. Great stuff. Keep it coming! Brad
Brad Reid Hey Brad, thanks for leaving the nice message. The comment you referred to was from a tuna fisherman who apparently deals with big game and very strong drag systems... and I agree with him that the added tension is better. But going through all that trouble isn't necessary for inshore anglers.
When applying the line, I just leave the spool logo facing up (PowerPro). It's impossible to keep all twists out, so I then often drag it behind the boat to ensure that it's as clear as possible - here's a video showing the line clearing trick (great for right after spooling and after using a lure that twists): www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator.
Yes, I now use the FG knot for all braid to mono connections including the one at the bottom of the real because its so thin and strong (plus I can now tie it about as quickly as any other).
this video helped me a lot, thank you.
Clockwise is wrong, line should come off counter clockwise
+Dave Wargo Yes, we recently made a new video to clarify the rotation needs of the spool in relation to the reel as well as to add a tip on saving money on future spools - ruclips.net/video/yxHAX0-GUkc/видео.html.
@@Saltstrong If you know this video is absolutely WRONG,,, which it is,,,, TAKE IT DOWN
why is that
@@Saltstrong Take this video down if it's not correct. Come on!
@@tasu4571 haha surprised youtube hasnt taken it down for "false information" like they do with anything related to political and covid19
If string is already on reel how do you attach to bail correctly to start running line through eyes
Open the bail (so the little metal bar is up) and then take the line out and run it through, and then close the bail
Newer Penn reels don't need mono first, they have a non-slip coating on the spool.
It seems like more and more reels are doing that which is great. But I still use mono backing for saving money on the braid as shown in this video: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid/
rule of thumb, for casting you take it off from the center of the spool of line, same way it was spun onto the spool of line, for spinning you pull it off the end, the same way it spins onto the reel, the end or top, and yes for left handed spinning flip that spool over label down..
Thanks for the feedback!
Salt Strong I have read and been told that it is imperative that the line coming off the spool travel in the same direction as the spool in order to avoid line twists, birdnests and/or loops. In this case, the spool of your CI4 (when facing the reel from the rear), turns in a counter clockwise motion. I (think I) noticed, that in your video, both mono and braid are coming off the spools in a clockwise manner. Wouldn't this cause significantly more line twists? Thanks again for sharing the video.
OF CV Awesome comment!!! Thanks for the great clarification.
Nam Hoang Great question! Yes, the loading should be done in opposite directions when placing a spool of line on the ground like this to minimize twists. I use PowerPro 99% of the time and they're spools always have the logo on the side that faces up and I simply assumed Fins did the same... Fins spools need to be set with logo side down.
Fortunately, I always do this quick line twist eliminator trick to clear the line before using it so I didn't have any issues at all with this spool: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fishing-line-twist-eliminator.
Salt Strong +OF CV Thank you for your comments! however both left me a bit more confused as before. According to OF CV's comment, he suggests that the line coming off the spool (let's say clockwise as you look down on the spool from above as it sits on the table, should be coming on the reel in the OPPOSITE direction if you were to be looking at the reel from the butt of the reel (facing the butt of the rod towards the rod tip). This is actually (if I am seeing it correctly) how you are currently doing it in your video. However, according to your comment above (and your reply to another commentor prior), i "think" you are suggesting that you may have made a mistake in the tutorial and that the spool should be flipped, such that the line comes off the reel in the SAME direction as the spool, assuming you were looking at the reel from the end of the reel and if you were looking at the spool from the top of the spool as it sits on the table.
Please correct me if I am mistaken, but it appears the two replies are contradicting each other?
Perhaps we can use the CI4 as a reference to avoid any confusion, which spins counter-clockwise as I view it from the "rear". Given this, as I view the filler spool sitting on the table, which way should the line be coming off the spool?
For what it's worth, I have a few bulk spools powerpro and the line comes off the spool clockwise with the label facing up (perhaps different than their filler spools?). I have a couple filler spools of Suffix 832 and that line comes off counter-clockwise the label facing up.
Also, your tutorial on the FG knot is fantastic. Thanks again for the video!
Salt Strong Nice video and thanks for the work. To be clear, your video was never about which direction spool and reel should be spinning to load line. I just saw Nam's question and KNOW it is a source of confusion. Also, always remember that most nasty comments are from immature youth or puerile adults...maybe internet access from a work release program.
OF CV thank you for the clarification, and that is how I understood your comment to read. That being said, I believe that Salt Strong comment was suggesting that the line should come off the spool in the opposite direction that you are recommending.
So keep label up?
I have a problem. I wanted to start with mono to save some of my braid for another spool. I'm using a Shimano Sahara and I reeled in maybe 2 layers of mono and then did a double uni to braid. The problem is both the original knot(mono to spool) and the braid to mono knot interfere with my braid coming off the spool when I sling that sucker really far. What should I do? Can I just do a basic overhand knot for the mono to braid since I don't plan on fishing it down to that knot anyways? I want to reiterate that when I cast the braid gets stuck on the leader knot and the original spool knot which I just did 2 overhand knots for that as well. Sometimes it slips and I feel a thump thump thump over the knots as the braid is coming off, and sometimes it just sticks and my lure stops suddenly mid flight
Sounds like you don't have enough layers of braid over the knot. What size reel are you using and what size braid do you have spooled?
It's a 2500 reel(forgot to mention). 20 lb braid. I was actually thinking that I didn't put enough on but it appears that I am about 1/8 inch from max capacity which is what I hear you should leave. Maybe my estimation on the 1/8 inch is off a bit. My buddy who is experienced told me today that a double uni should be fine for mono to braid in the spool. He said I may not have clipped the tag end down enough but I clipped it as close as possible. I'm pretty sure you are right that I can afford to put more on there. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I am still learning a lot of this stuff
I recommend spooling it on until there is a 1/16 inch gap from the outer layer of the spool of line and the top edge of the reel. And with a 2500 size reel, I always use 10 lb braid which has plenty of power to handle big fish. Here's footage of a tarpon I landed on a 2500 reel with 10 lb braid: ruclips.net/video/K9cJeyjxeFk/видео.html
Haha that's awesome man! Well, I primarily bass fish and am on a budget(aka I don't have the money to buy a setup for every situation) so I kind of plan to have a versatile setup, one of which is capable of pulling bass out of semi-substantial cover if need be but mostly finesse application. I use 20 lb braid to a 16 lb. fluoro leader. Perhaps 20 lb. is overkill for what I had in mind, I'm not too sure. Maybe 15 lb. would be a better compromise? Just sort of kicking myself at the thought of switching because I just bought 450 yards of 20 lb. Again, I appreciate your insight.
I believe what I will do is re-spool until the 1/16 inch mark and see if that takes care of my long cast issue. If not, I will highly consider a lower pound braid. Because that makes sense, less diameter braid, more line length on spool. Thanks for the help. Have a good one.
Thx now i spool me reel in wrong way. How to fix this if I don't have a boat or field with grass around?
How do you "idle out and let 100 yards out" if you don't tie anything on? I can't imagine any line coming off the spool if nothing is tied to the end?
The drag from the water is surprisingly strong... just get about 6 ft of it to be touching the water, and it'll be enough drag to pull the rest of the line out of the spool.
You said any knot, I've seen uniknot work well and holds both lines well, what do you think?
i got a question, what do you if you the braid doesnt fill up the spool
on the reel? like as in you would put some mono underneath the braid for
braid to stick on to it, but then you use up all your braid 300m and it
only fills up your spool about 3/4 of the way
add more backings (mono) or buy a 1500 yd braid spool so you wont have to worry about not enough lines
Here's a post that shows how to manage your line so that all re-spools use the exact amount of line you need to have no wasted line: www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-spool-a-spinning-reel-with-braid/
I use an Albright knot when putting mono to braid, the knot will hold even if you go below it on the spool. I put the link in the comments section!! Your welcome!!
👍👊😁💪🎣 Tight lines !!!
I prefer dacron since mono is obsolete and a uni to uni knot so I don't have that big honkin connection.
Thanks for the feedback!
Great video thanks mate..looking to scrap my mono line that came with the reel. Went for a flick last night and got wind knots every second cast squidding. I find if you are casting so much from land, and squidding, its best to have braided line, that stuff launches like a mf and no wind knots.
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
Great Video and info thanks for the Knot lesson Tanner.
Ron Gamblin Thanks for leaving the nice comment Ron. Fish On!
Does braid tear the rods eyelets?
i've heard so
What brand is the braided line &test#? Thanks
10 lb braid make by Fins was used in this line spooling video.
What rod did you use sir
I am always in search for the best overall value rod, so I get new ones frequently to test out for our members. Here's a link to see which ones have been reviewed so far: www.saltstrong.com/article_categories/fishing-rods/