I've been having issues with my brother and his girlfriend and how they have been raising my baby nephew. He's not even a year old and they wanna try "weening him off being carried" because they "don't wanna spoil him." My nephew is, again, not even a year old and they wanna try disciplining him that way. In my mind, I was like "WTF?! What kind of people are you?!" Babies can't communicate the way we do and if they'e crying then something is wrong. If they wanna be held, they're not being spoiled, they need attention and care. They went as far as depriving him of that attention to the point where my nephew was crying so hard I could hear it from the other house and he started coughing. My brother was even yelling at him and complaining about how "kids think they can do whatever they want"...again to a baby who isn't even one yet. Ignoring your children is dangerous and abusive and doing so while masking it as "discipline" says a lot about you as a person. Whenever I intervene, guess how long it takes me to calm him down and put him to sleep? 30 minutes. Other times it's less than that. Put down your phone, stop what your doing, and pay attention to your babies.
The "You'll follow and adhere to all of my whims without complaint regardless of how unfair they are and I'll punish you if you don't" attitude is how my stepmother parented while my father was passive in the whole thing. And that attitude way directed towards me and my brother more than it was towards her biological kids. Her kids could do no wrong: despite the fact that several of her kids are compulsive liars and theives. So my father decided that there was clearly nothing wrong with his kids, despite the fact that I was clearly dealing with anxiety and depression. I didn't even start getting therapy until not getting me therapy could literally drive me into harming myself. She had such a negative impact on my mental health: she 'expected more' from me and my brother than she did from her kids; even the ones who were older than the two of us, often told me that I didn't look good in clothes I really liked, only gave me one or two dresses for church (which she and my father forced me to go to despite the fact that I didn't believe the church), and punished me and my brother more often than her own kids. But I think the worst part of her parenting was that we weren't allowed to talk about our biological mother because according to her 'she was our mom'. Like; our mother died and not even a full year later our dad gets remarried and the woman he marries takes our mother's place and tries to wipe our mother out of our lives. And somehow people wonder why I don't like my stepmother and why I don't call her 'mom' unless I'm forced to be around her. Sorry, kinda started ranting there. But I'm really glad to hear people actually speak up against that sort of parenting. I love your videos so much.
As someone who wrote a story with a literal baby being a literal baby for 6 years, I can double confirm Lily's point with the fact that if you don't have the baby doing something interesting for the audience, they are INCREDIBLY BORING to write for. Half the time the parent would simply just be holding the baby while dealing with whatever was going on in their life and that was it. The baby felt almost inconsequential until the baby was either brought up directly or got involved in the situation. If you don't have the baby acting up like Flurry Heart, or doing something else equally zany and hilarious, the baby is nothing more than a plot device that exists. This is why, especially in cartoons, babies always act far more intelligent and mature than they should at the age they are. This is why Lily is so on point with this entire video. It's not bad writing for babies to be acting the way they do in the show, it's just good entertainment.
MY LITTLE PONY IS NOT REALISTIC!! me: *opens window and grins at the cries of many many people who take mlp too serious and look for realistic points in a damn cartoon* i love the sound of despair like this in the morning its pastel talking horses ppl....stop looking for realistic in something that has talking pastel horses!!
Bronies: “Flurry Heart is terrible!” Me: “She’s literally just a baby.” Bronies: “She must die in a fire!” I’m glad I don’t associate myself with the bronies anymore.
Did the Cake twins get this much shit throwing after the episode Pinky Pie babysat them? My memories are vague but they got Pinkie's full attention and they still got into mischief. In fact, the twins were about as smart as Flurry Heart so Flurry's intelligence isn't that unusual.
Every time Flurry was on screen, I was going, "Awwwwww," or "Isn't she adorable." What sorcery did Hasbro cause to create Flurry Heart, as she clearly cannot be the work of any mortal.
I very much appreciate your being willing to share such a personal example like that, and not pretending that it's anything less than what it is. It shows that these kinds of abuse aren't as uncommon as they're thought to be.
I was raised in a similar way with a heaping dose of fear on top of it, so I never acted out against my parents. I didn't have a rebel phase, which is really important for the psychological development during the teenage life period. I'm now an adult and I just now start to see these problems. And it's not just my parents. I am a social worker meaning I work with dysfunctional families EVERY DAY. And the amount of misinformation about parenting and crude behavior towards their children makes you wish, that these people never would have reproduced. Sometimes the only thing we can do is relocate the child in a foster family to avoid major psychological and/or physical damage done to it And the fact, that so many people think that a child, a literal BABY, acting out is the childs fault makes me want to bang my head in the wall. Okay enough with ranting. Thank you Lily for getting it and showcasing how wrong these people are
THIS. I work in the children's department at a library, and I have seen great parenting, and awful parenting, back to back. One of the most heartbreaking things was watching a little kid try to get attention from his mom-- and I mean, this little guy waddled, he had to have only been like 3, tops-- and his mom kept shooing him away to go play with his other 3 siblings. She was on her phone. I don't want to assume she wasn't doing something important, but... she seemed pretty fixated for the 2 hours they hung out there. :( They left when he started sobbing and screaming, and she was legitimately frustrated about it.
I adore Flurry Heart. Whenever she's on screen my brain just devolves to "BABY." and I can't control it. I don't even like real babies that much. Just Flurry.
When it comes to bronies and children there's basically 2 kinds of people: those who hate and advocate the abuse of children, and those who love children juuust a little too much if you know what I mean.
Honestly, I've always gotten frustrated with Brony analysts, because whenever I would watch their reviews, they'd always get distracted by a meme, or by a pointless comment, or they would lose their suspension of disbelief. I'm glad someone pointed this out.
Another "this is why we can't have nice things, thanks bronies" episode. Seriously the community is in need of some serious mental help, maybe with some self hugging jackets.
This right here. I mean obviously im not the only sob story righting out in the comments that this is so me, but i remeber so many times growing up with my abusive mother of being punished and not understanding it. My mom was a single parent raising 3 kids so i get that leaving us at home while she went grocery shopiing wasnt an option, let alone working 3 jobs day and nioght, but so many times my brothers and I would be in doctors offices or grocery store goofing around or whining because we were bored, because we didn't have the mental capacity to sit still for an hour an a half and be quite, my brothers more so with ADHD and ADD, and yet my brothers and I were yelled at daily for it. FOr misbehaving and acting out and were told to sit still and be quite. We get home and be scolded again for "acting out" and not listening. I remeber us looking at eachother, heads down and so confused because we knew we had done something bad but couldnt understand what it was. THat something was our fault, bubt saw nothing wrong in what we did. This even came out in school as we were raised in a very secluded private catholic schools where teachers were very close with parents and as such scolded students equally. I would repeated get in trouble after class in grades k through 3 from goofing around when i was supposed to be sitting or for playing with earasers and would regularaly throw tantrums after an hour or two of solid sitting in class because i just couldnt understand why i was so frustrated and got in trouble. And my brothers and I blamed OURSELVES for it! for years! It resulted in us thinking everything, even if we couldnt control it, was our fault. All because such a crutal point of development was stomped on and tainted. EVen now as adults, I still by habit take the blame for more then my fair share and lack self forgivness. I hold on to mistakes and focus on them for days to weeks or months because repeating them to me is seem as detrimental even if it was out of my control to begin with. Twilight in this episode is the gaurdian I wish I had. Who could releise the miostake and clearly see the differnce between intervening to stop a dangerious situation and punishing kids for no reason. But many kids didnt get that luxury and its infurating to hear people who have no idea what its like to be flurry in this "situation" lecturing about the complete opposite.
Whenever people talk about "discipline" when talking about parenting or children in general, I get VERY very uncomfortable. Idc about MLP, but thank you for talking about this!
If Flurry Heart had been a new male alicorn prince, literally no other changes, not even physical appearance, Bronies would have been 10000000000000 percent in love with the character, the idea of born alicorns, called the writers brave, write a million fanfics, demanded MORE of him, WHY won't the writers show him more????????sexismmmmmmmmmmm
I remember seeing my sister watching an analysis video criticizing flurryheart by saying she was invented just for toys/merchandise. keep in mind, the MLP franchise has ALWAYS been a toy commercial from the start.
The amount these people (Silver, Wolf etc) bitch and moan while failing to pay attention to what's*actually* going on in the show, one has to wonder why they bother watching it at all. Good video Lily.
A baby... Really? I thought things couldn't get any worse for the Brony fandom, and yet, situations such as these exist. But seriously, Flurry's a freaking baby!
5:44 - 7:33 Damn. And to think I made two painfully long videos about how magic in Equestria is related to or is science. I need to seriously sit down and reconsider my priorities and life choices. Thanks for the wake-up call.
Oh! So it's not just me who thought the brony community was being really dumb with "A Flurry of Emotions" and ignoring the theme that was spelled out for them.. good to know
The adult male fans of an animated childrens show about ponies are crying about a lack of realism and a baby charcter ment to help sell toys/exist as a pure baby? I-
Tysm for making this video. Fans act like Flurry killed their grandma or something when she’s just a freaking cartoon baby. She’s just a silly and adorable little foal. There are also those who got mad over her existence “retconning” Celestia and Luna being born Alicorns when that was never stated to be official in the actual show. Who cares if they weren’t born Alicorns?
The problem with calling discipline abuse is that you use the whiteman’s definition of discipline. Beatings and screaming matches, while effective in the short term, should be used only in extreme cases. Effective discipline is emotional blackmail. It worked for us Americans for eons before you crossed the sea and it still works today (as a disobedient child in my youth myself, I can testify to that), though many of you are too soft these days for any discipline at all, and have the mistaken impression that explaining things to children works better than making them feel bad, mentally or physically, which is not to say that inappropriate behavior shouldn’t be made a learning experience, merely that it seems you’re doing it wrong, as it seems to mass breed entitlement.
*Effective discipline is emotional blackmail. It worked for us Americans for eons before you crossed the sea and it still works today (as a disobedient child in my youth myself, I can testify to that)* It's stupid things like this that make me lowkey glad my own heritage is going extinct. Sorry bro, emotional blackmail is even more serious abuse than beatings will ever be. And neither are used by parents who aren't fucking terrible at being parents.
The way you pronounce Babu is pretty much half of why I come here.
Flurry Heart is the sweetest little thing and even though I've basically abandoned the series. I still adore her cute little face.
I've been having issues with my brother and his girlfriend and how they have been raising my baby nephew. He's not even a year old and they wanna try "weening him off being carried" because they "don't wanna spoil him." My nephew is, again, not even a year old and they wanna try disciplining him that way. In my mind, I was like "WTF?! What kind of people are you?!" Babies can't communicate the way we do and if they'e crying then something is wrong. If they wanna be held, they're not being spoiled, they need attention and care. They went as far as depriving him of that attention to the point where my nephew was crying so hard I could hear it from the other house and he started coughing. My brother was even yelling at him and complaining about how "kids think they can do whatever they want"...again to a baby who isn't even one yet. Ignoring your children is dangerous and abusive and doing so while masking it as "discipline" says a lot about you as a person. Whenever I intervene, guess how long it takes me to calm him down and put him to sleep? 30 minutes. Other times it's less than that. Put down your phone, stop what your doing, and pay attention to your babies.
"Ready? Here it goes"
*Literally an advertisement*
"MY LITTLE PONY IS NOT REALISTIC"
*falls out of chair*
The "You'll follow and adhere to all of my whims without complaint regardless of how unfair they are and I'll punish you if you don't" attitude is how my stepmother parented while my father was passive in the whole thing. And that attitude way directed towards me and my brother more than it was towards her biological kids. Her kids could do no wrong: despite the fact that several of her kids are compulsive liars and theives. So my father decided that there was clearly nothing wrong with his kids, despite the fact that I was clearly dealing with anxiety and depression. I didn't even start getting therapy until not getting me therapy could literally drive me into harming myself. She had such a negative impact on my mental health: she 'expected more' from me and my brother than she did from her kids; even the ones who were older than the two of us, often told me that I didn't look good in clothes I really liked, only gave me one or two dresses for church (which she and my father forced me to go to despite the fact that I didn't believe the church), and punished me and my brother more often than her own kids. But I think the worst part of her parenting was that we weren't allowed to talk about our biological mother because according to her 'she was our mom'. Like; our mother died and not even a full year later our dad gets remarried and the woman he marries takes our mother's place and tries to wipe our mother out of our lives. And somehow people wonder why I don't like my stepmother and why I don't call her 'mom' unless I'm forced to be around her.
Sorry, kinda started ranting there.
But I'm really glad to hear people actually speak up against that sort of parenting. I love your videos so much.
The borderline sadism I've seen some bronies show to a litteral baby is very worrysome.
As someone who wrote a story with a literal baby being a literal baby for 6 years, I can double confirm Lily's point with the fact that if you don't have the baby doing something interesting for the audience, they are INCREDIBLY BORING to write for.
Half the time the parent would simply just be holding the baby while dealing with whatever was going on in their life and that was it. The baby felt almost inconsequential until the baby was either brought up directly or got involved in the situation. If you don't have the baby acting up like Flurry Heart, or doing something else equally zany and hilarious, the baby is nothing more than a plot device that exists. This is why, especially in cartoons, babies always act far more intelligent and mature than they should at the age they are.
This is why Lily is so on point with this entire video. It's not bad writing for babies to be acting the way they do in the show, it's just good entertainment.
MY LITTLE PONY IS NOT REALISTIC!!
me: *opens window and grins at the cries of many many people who take mlp too serious and look for realistic points in a damn cartoon* i love the sound of despair like this in the morning
its pastel talking horses ppl....stop looking for realistic in something that has talking pastel horses!!
Bronies: “Flurry Heart is terrible!”
Me: “She’s literally just a baby.”
Bronies: “She must die in a fire!”
I’m glad I don’t associate myself with the bronies anymore.
Did the Cake twins get this much shit throwing after the episode Pinky Pie babysat them? My memories are vague but they got Pinkie's full attention and they still got into mischief. In fact, the twins were about as smart as Flurry Heart so Flurry's intelligence isn't that unusual.
Every time Flurry was on screen, I was going, "Awwwwww," or "Isn't she adorable."
What sorcery did Hasbro cause to create Flurry Heart, as she clearly cannot be the work of any mortal.
I very much appreciate your being willing to share such a personal example like that, and not pretending that it's anything less than what it is. It shows that these kinds of abuse aren't as uncommon as they're thought to be.
I was raised in a similar way with a heaping dose of fear on top of it, so I never acted out against my parents. I didn't have a rebel phase, which is really important for the psychological development during the teenage life period. I'm now an adult and I just now start to see these problems. And it's not just my parents. I am a social worker meaning I work with dysfunctional families EVERY DAY. And the amount of misinformation about parenting and crude behavior towards their children makes you wish, that these people never would have reproduced. Sometimes the only thing we can do is relocate the child in a foster family to avoid major psychological and/or physical damage done to it
And the fact, that so many people think that a child, a literal BABY, acting out is the childs fault makes me want to bang my head in the wall.
Okay enough with ranting. Thank you Lily for getting it and showcasing how wrong these people are
THIS. I work in the children's department at a library, and I have seen great parenting, and awful parenting, back to back. One of the most heartbreaking things was watching a little kid try to get attention from his mom-- and I mean, this little guy waddled, he had to have only been like 3, tops-- and his mom kept shooing him away to go play with his other 3 siblings. She was on her phone. I don't want to assume she wasn't doing something important, but... she seemed pretty fixated for the 2 hours they hung out there. :( They left when he started sobbing and screaming, and she was legitimately frustrated about it.
“Having only one active character doesn’t work.”
I’d like to call to the stand Castaway starring Tom Hanks.
I love this series too much
This was all the vindication I never knew I needed both for the BABU and me as a kid.
The pretentious tone you use for the bronies omg , its beautiful!XD
I adore Flurry Heart. Whenever she's on screen my brain just devolves to "BABY." and I can't control it. I don't even like real babies that much. Just Flurry.
When it comes to bronies and children there's basically 2 kinds of people: those who hate and advocate the abuse of children, and those who love children juuust a little too much if you know what I mean.
I am a single parent with a 2 year old, and I say to Lily "PREACH IT, GIRL!!!".
I always love hearing your baby talk about lil babies or cute characters ☺️❤️
Honestly, I've always gotten frustrated with Brony analysts, because whenever I would watch their reviews, they'd always get distracted by a meme, or by a pointless comment, or they would lose their suspension of disbelief. I'm glad someone pointed this out.
Another "this is why we can't have nice things, thanks bronies" episode.
Seriously the community is in need of some serious mental help, maybe with some self hugging jackets.
This right here. I mean obviously im not the only sob story righting out in the comments that this is so me, but i remeber so many times growing up with my abusive mother of being punished and not understanding it. My mom was a single parent raising 3 kids so i get that leaving us at home while she went grocery shopiing wasnt an option, let alone working 3 jobs day and nioght, but so many times my brothers and I would be in doctors offices or grocery store goofing around or whining because we were bored, because we didn't have the mental capacity to sit still for an hour an a half and be quite, my brothers more so with ADHD and ADD, and yet my brothers and I were yelled at daily for it. FOr misbehaving and acting out and were told to sit still and be quite. We get home and be scolded again for "acting out" and not listening. I remeber us looking at eachother, heads down and so confused because we knew we had done something bad but couldnt understand what it was. THat something was our fault, bubt saw nothing wrong in what we did. This even came out in school as we were raised in a very secluded private catholic schools where teachers were very close with parents and as such scolded students equally. I would repeated get in trouble after class in grades k through 3 from goofing around when i was supposed to be sitting or for playing with earasers and would regularaly throw tantrums after an hour or two of solid sitting in class because i just couldnt understand why i was so frustrated and got in trouble. And my brothers and I blamed OURSELVES for it! for years! It resulted in us thinking everything, even if we couldnt control it, was our fault. All because such a crutal point of development was stomped on and tainted. EVen now as adults, I still by habit take the blame for more then my fair share and lack self forgivness. I hold on to mistakes and focus on them for days to weeks or months because repeating them to me is seem as detrimental even if it was out of my control to begin with. Twilight in this episode is the gaurdian I wish I had. Who could releise the miostake and clearly see the differnce between intervening to stop a dangerious situation and punishing kids for no reason. But many kids didnt get that luxury and its infurating to hear people who have no idea what its like to be flurry in this "situation" lecturing about the complete opposite.
Flurry Heart is literally just a cute little babu.
Whenever people talk about "discipline" when talking about parenting or children in general, I get VERY very uncomfortable. Idc about MLP, but thank you for talking about this!
In this house we stan all babus! Also I'm pleasantly surprised that Lily liked baby Sinclair too, not many people I know like that adorable dino
The thought of bronies having children one day genuinely disturbs me
If Flurry Heart had been a new male alicorn prince, literally no other changes, not even physical appearance, Bronies would have been 10000000000000 percent in love with the character, the idea of born alicorns, called the writers brave, write a million fanfics, demanded MORE of him, WHY won't the writers show him more????????sexismmmmmmmmmmm
Lily, every now and then you hit it right on the head. As a parent I feel the same as you do on this topic.
I’m a female brony and the majority of the fandom give me headaches. Bad enough I have chronic migraines!
I remember seeing my sister watching an analysis video criticizing flurryheart by saying she was invented just for toys/merchandise. keep in mind, the MLP franchise has ALWAYS been a toy commercial from the start.
The amount these people (Silver, Wolf etc) bitch and moan while failing to pay attention to what's*actually* going on in the show, one has to wonder why they bother watching it at all. Good video Lily.
You're one of the few who love Flurry Heart and I love you for it ^_^
yasssss the queen came out with another video!!
A baby... Really? I thought things couldn't get any worse for the Brony fandom, and yet, situations such as these exist.
But seriously, Flurry's a freaking baby!
lily said she was gonna let us in on a secret then i got an ad right after the sentence man i like that secret
Generational trauma bad, mlp episode good: this is what I got from this video
5:44 - 7:33 Damn. And to think I made two painfully long videos about how magic in Equestria is related to or is science.
I need to seriously sit down and reconsider my priorities and life choices. Thanks for the wake-up call.
6:17 Mother fuggin' "Don't Think Twice!"
I'm gonna say it again: Mightiest mom that ever momed!
If... If this kinda thing needs therapy, I might need to talk to someone.
The way that she says shmall babu is adorable omfg
Oh! So it's not just me who thought the brony community was being really dumb with "A Flurry of Emotions" and ignoring the theme that was spelled out for them.. good to know
The adult male fans of an animated childrens show about ponies are crying about a lack of realism and a baby charcter ment to help sell toys/exist as a pure baby? I-
Wait so people think a baby is terrible character no shit its a baby
I remember being against Flurry Heart when she was introduced to the show, now I’m like “BABU IN SIGHT 8D”
I can't hate a baby pony or baby anything.
Look at her
LOOK AT HER!
She's a cute Lil fluffles ❤️
I mean it just feels mean to hate her
THIS. EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS!
Nah I’m a sensitive person and I thought this exact way when I watched the episode. ISH JUST A SHWEET BABU WHO WANTS TO PWAY!!
Great, yet another reason for me to
1)Feel regret for misjudging a fictional character
2)Not have any children ever
Flurry’s so adorable
Tysm for making this video. Fans act like Flurry killed their grandma or something when she’s just a freaking cartoon baby. She’s just a silly and adorable little foal. There are also those who got mad over her existence “retconning” Celestia and Luna being born Alicorns when that was never stated to be official in the actual show. Who cares if they weren’t born Alicorns?
Babu lol
Seriously? The bronies actually had annoyance of a baby.....acting and doing what all babies normally do. I hate it here sometimes 😒
The problem with calling discipline abuse is that you use the whiteman’s definition of discipline. Beatings and screaming matches, while effective in the short term, should be used only in extreme cases. Effective discipline is emotional blackmail. It worked for us Americans for eons before you crossed the sea and it still works today (as a disobedient child in my youth myself, I can testify to that), though many of you are too soft these days for any discipline at all, and have the mistaken impression that explaining things to children works better than making them feel bad, mentally or physically, which is not to say that inappropriate behavior shouldn’t be made a learning experience, merely that it seems you’re doing it wrong, as it seems to mass breed entitlement.
*Effective discipline is emotional blackmail. It worked for us Americans for eons before you crossed the sea and it still works today (as a disobedient child in my youth myself, I can testify to that)*
It's stupid things like this that make me lowkey glad my own heritage is going extinct. Sorry bro, emotional blackmail is even more serious abuse than beatings will ever be. And neither are used by parents who aren't fucking terrible at being parents.