It was not a Soviet copy, it was literally the same Carl Zeiss production line that the USSR received as reparations, because Soviet optics production lines were destroyed by the Germans.
Capitalism copies all the times, which is precisely not bad, especially if you have to start from above. That's how easily I discover the dude who made the video needs a bigger lens in his brain to catch more light.
i mean congrats to commies i guess? why shouldnt they try to adopt to better technologies? Like man thats normal af. ofc they are going to try to replicate a good design, everyone does. Thats called improvement
Are you implying that German Nazis were Communists? They were hateful towards the USSR. Because they hated Communism. Same with Poland they were Communists too.
He is from a 100% fictional country (filmed in Romania) that Sacha Baron Cohen for reasons that evade me decided to call after an actual country Kazakhstan
I mean when you literally steal the Weiss factories and all their workers and move them to the Soviet Union it’s no surprise it can compare to the original. The swirly boceh is subjective some people like it some people don’t that doesn’t make it superior. And the mass production and cheap prices are just effects of capitalism rather than communism
@@vanbogan3712 Commies are in a perpetual state of cope. "Noooo the ussr didn't fall because it was rotten to the core, but because of evil gorbachov and capitalism!!!"
Also why George Lucas said they made the best movies. Artists could be artists and get huge budgets without fear of failing to turn a profit. It was made to be art, and it’s all free on RUclips from MosFilm! Amazing
As a person who lives in post-soviet reality, I have to say that's quite an overstatement. Soviet lenses may be cool, but try to operate USSR-produced camera, for example. There is a risk of... disappointment
@@aqua-beryoverused tasteless satire, mate. do that same joke with Israel and see how quickly it becomes not satire and land you in jail for antisemitism
Communism quality? So why they were not sold in the west if they were so good? Why he had to import them? Why most of soviet companies collapsed capitalist economy?
Well, that the Soviets copied Carl Zeiss is only part of the story. They actually took most of the Zeiss factory apart and rebuilt it back home as part of post WWII repetitions.
IIRC they already had a factory made to German Spec by 1905 or 1906 (LOMO was founded in 1914's Petrograd for instance). They continued to co-operate with Weimar (the Germans were the only ones willing to trade with the Soviets) and then got some of the Zeiss factories after WW2 and of course KMZ works to this day. TLDR: The Russian has been working and perfecting optics, on a German base, for at least 100 years.
This was made using reparations equipment. Not only that, the Soviet IMPROVED the Biotar design by shortening the close focus distance. I have a Zeiss Biotar and it’s not quite as good as the Helios, but only by a margin
@@cstgraphpads2091опытный фотограф может сделать сравнение снимков и на глаз. А точные технические данные, например о разрешающей способности оптики, можно сделать по специальным мишеням (их можно распечатать на лазерном принтере) в программе Imatest. Мой товарищ делал такие сравнения не раз, сравнивая советский Zenitar-16 и Canon 15 Fisheye (не в пользу последнего). СССР улучшал просветление в поздних версиях Гелиос 44. А у товарища может быть старенький Биотар. Бедой советской оптики было неровное качество как от партии к партии, так и внутри нее. А так, хорошие (особенно за свои деньги) объективы в СССР имелись.
@@cstgraphpads2091 seriously? Based on the fact that Soviets didn't simply keep producing old German model but found a way to make it better and then sold that. Of course they would find a way to improve it.
Improve and Communism is opposite words. The Soviets NEVER improved anything, they just stole and copied. And ofcourse no Biotar or Sonnar was improved by them, only the Japanese did that ;)
That’s the problem with western society these days - it’s propagandised FAR beyond the levels of North Korea Who cares about the facts - this guy was TOLD to think communism was horrible and had no technology.. I bet he thinks the first man in space was an American capitalist 🤷♂️
At the Carl Zeiss plant, Soviet citizens also worked as slaves, whom the Nazis deported to Germany as labor. Concentration camp prisoners made up 30% of Carl Zeiss's workers. Therefore, the Soviets have the right to do whatever they want with the products of this campaign.
@@johnnewman1483 I see your neo nazi colors showing. Totally not a war reparation yeah your one sentence answer totally I'm buy it, not. back up your answer with facts, but you can't so thats why you didn't.
everyfkinbody knows borat's trivia abt it being filmed with a romanian village and the villagers not knowing what he was doing its such an overshared factoid at this point.
The murican and English public "school" system is literally RUclips ( you know the "post -truth era " online platform ) .....And despite capitalism being "obviously" the superior economic system ( smirk , when you can still afford a worldwide army to "entice" foreigners to give you their commodities for almost no money besides toilet paper ) , most of them only can afford to travel from their sofas to the refrigerator ....
No they are not. Some are OK, some even good but the quality control is abysmal (supposedly identical lenses can vary enormously in performance) and while the older (CZ especially) designs were at least sound they failed to develop them. Excellent for the money? - maybe. Excellent full stop - not by a long way..
@@SDRlegacyGermans examined russian tank optics and said they were of good quality. The reason Germans lost is because they overbuilt everything bc "muh master race" "Excellent is the enemy of good enough"
In Poland everybody is using Helios 😂 You didn’t mention that it’s only sharp in perfect middle of frame, but magic made by this lens is incredible. I got 44-3 which is almost impossible to find now :) great lens so far
- They weren't *trying* to copy, it *is* a literal copy of the Carl Zeiss Biotar 58/2. The optical construction is identical. Some early ones were even made with Zeiss components from the Jena factory. - For the same reason the swirly bokeh is not a defect but practically identical to what's produced by the Biotar. (ignoring sample variation and coating differences) - This kind of bokeh is not unique but common to a lot of fast lenses of the same era.
I have a Biotar and a Helios. The Helios is actually an improvement because the closest focus distance is much closer. Minor improvement but improvement nonetheless.
Yep. This video gets it all wrong. This cheap lens is so popular and not some secret Soviet magical lens. And there are so many different variations from different Soviet factories and revisions that it’s hard to know the good from the bad.
@@NandR 44-2 is good de clicked mine for cinema. Though your right there's other lenses like it, they all tend to cost more and unlike the 44 variants wasn't made for 50 years on end. Vostock watches has some nice models but they made them for so long so not rare and worth a bit less then otherwise, that and the weird crowns with clutch some hate /don't understand isn't broken it's just always wobbly to protect mech from hard shocks that would bend the outside of the case where the crown screws in.
Best thing about soviet products is that they aren’t made to break so you need to buy a new one all 5 years. For example some soviet mixers are legendary for being nearly indestructible and that for 60 years plus
The Soviets took a practical approach to the lenses they made, much like a lot of other products they engineered - don't fix (redesign) it if it's not broken. As you can see from the sharpness of this 1960s Helios, there was really no massive benefit in the Soviets redesigning the lens that fulfilled its purpose. Although the base design was the same as the CZJ version, the Soviets still had to recalculate the optical design based on the Soviet glass that was being produced at the time, which had slightly different characteristics. Then, from the 50-s right through to the 90's, they gradually improved the sharpness (and QC) of the Helioses they produced, so by the time the 44-6 and 44-7 were released, they were perfectly optimised for mass manufacturing, and much sharper than the original versions.
At the Carl Zeiss plant, Soviet citizens also worked as slaves, whom the Nazis deported to Germany as labor. Concentration camp prisoners made up 30% of Carl Zeiss's workers. Therefore, the Soviets have the right to do whatever they want with the products of this campaign.
Proud owner of a vintage Soviet film camera, it uses 8mm film and it's pretty scarce these days, but trust me, it's magic is on another level. The quality is so sharp, it's like... 4K of film camera quality lmao
Who makes 8mm film for cameras? The only 8mm film being made is for cinematography. You would have to buy it bulk & spool it into a cartridge yourself.
@@k-ozdragon well duh, it's kinda like a camcorder, so it uses film for video cameras but produces both photos and videos in different modes. Also, it's fully mechanical, so you need to wind up the spring to use video feature. Kinda funny gimmick, sadly I lost the original holding handle for it(sticking with a tripod for now)
@@pipipipipipipipi_ I don't see how you would use a cinema camera as a photography camera. If you could use it like one, it would only record one frame, which is about 1\16th of a second. You couldn't even isolate the image to print it, as it would be one frame in an entire massive roll of film. Film does have fairly high resolution, but 8mm is extremely small & not particularly high res; especially compared to 35mm. Not saying it definitely doesn't exist, but certainly sounds extremely strange & not the most practical. I've never heard of a film & photography combo camera. You can use 8mm film in certain photo cameras, but it has to be cut & then respooled first.
@@k-ozdragon well, that's not the case here. The film goes on standard 8mm cinema camera spools, and yes indeed, in camera mode it just snaps one picture. However, there is a slider to adjust the frame rate of the video, that way, the exposure can be customized for various occasions. So yes, it is highly unpractical and extremely bulky, but I love it, and it produces nice photos ngl. For me it is the choice between this behemoth and a cheap 35mm camera, so yeah, I opt for the first usually. Offers great customization and has two(!) sets of undetachable lens(photo and video, respectively)
@@juliap.5375In Poland we never say 'dobry dzień', it would sound extremely artificial. Nor have I encountered a situation where a Czech says "den dobry", although I could be wrong here. Borat's pronunciation, on the other hand, is clearly Polish.
They didn't conceptualise the original design. They made a new lens using an existing blueprint. This is copying. Did they have the rights to the original design? Most likely. I never said they stole the design. It's an important distinction.
@@duwang8499 yea tell me) I live in Moscow ... a lot of things were desined originaly for example famous polivox synthesizer or a spuntik, or a first ever nuclear plant...
"Where did you get that?" "I had a boeing 747 directly transport it all the way from a quaint little mountain town, 30 miles east of the capital of kazakhstan. It was then lovingly handed over to the operator of a renult traffic where it was promptly brought to my front door by a handsome gentleman in brown shorts"
There are some things you need to know about Soviet lenses (coming from a Russian photography enthusiast, both film and digital): - most of these lenses, like Jupiter-3, Jupiter-8, Mir-1/1B, Helios 44-2/44-3/44-6, have a simple rule - earlier the year of production, better the quality - best portrait monster Mir-1B is the one with “Grand Pride Brussels” line engraved; - due to mass production of Helios, you better Google their symbols: arrow and a circle - Valdai, worst kind of them all; something looking like a trapezoid curved bread - Minsk, they’re good for their price and can give a bit more light; arrow with pierced triangle end going through a trapezoid - KMZ, classic old production (if the arrow doesn’t have a tip or it’s fully painted - it means it’s newer, can be late Perestroika or even new Russian made); - Industar-50 3,5 and Industar-50-2 3,5 ARE NOT THAT BAD. TRY THEM ON FUJI! - If you are lucky to have a broken Smena Symbol or Smena-8 camera, you can look for guides on how to detach it’s beautiful lens system and adapt it to M39 (Leica mount); - better buy some M39 to your camera adapter in addition to your M42 adapter OR you can buy some cheap Soviet adapter rings from M39 to M42!
Facts. Imagine how much of a progress humanity would make once America becomes socialist. iPhones will become modular and long-lasting, everyone will have a home, and there will be space bases on the Moon and Mars
haha that's hilarious. They didn't design crap in this case, they took the whole CZ factory back to Ukraine. Hell, they even failed at that: when they took the equipment they broke and/or rendered a lot of it useless by keeping it out in the open for weeks, including the state of the art coating equipment which CZ were pioneering. Kiev? Contax. The first batches still have the "Contax" nameplate underneath the Kiev badge, visible if you take one apart. Zorki? Leica III. Kiev 88? Hasselblad copy. Cars and trucks? copied/reverse engineered from trucks the americans supplied for WW2. The only things of relevance the soviets actually designed back then were the tanks, which did have some very clever engineering behind them; their main claim to glory still was the sheer number of them they churned out, though. I'm not dissing the people, not at all. Soviet people were amazing for what they put up with and endured. But this "soviet engineering" romantizacion falls to pieces the moment you actually look stuff up and/or actually hold some of it in your hands. I FIX cameras and have been doing so for ten years. Ever opened up a Zenit? trust me, those are no engineering masterpiece. Engineers even needed to take the abysmal manufacturing tolerances into account, there was a chasm between what was designed and what actually came out of the factory. When those concessions are needed the final product will invariably be orders of magnitude worse than it could have been were the execution of the design actually competent. /rant
Size of the frame matters, in mobile phones it's tiny. And also old 645 film camera has far above image quality than modern full-frame 35mm professional devices have..
Those are really great lenses for the price. I bought two, brand new in box, for around $20 each. They'll jump in price as soon as some famous RUclipsr makes a video about them lol
Well swirl is actually present on Biotar 58mm f2. That is not defect it is simply thing that happened in that design. And a lot of German lenses from that era have swirl. So Helios 44 and Helios 40 do same because they took Zeiss formula. Jupiters doesn't swirl because they are copys of older Zeiss Sonnar design.
It's actually a flaw in the lens design called sagittal astigmatism. Lens designers worked hard to remove this flaw. Now people pay big bucks for it. Biotar recently released a new version of the Biotar 58mm with the astigmatism included. It's an amazingly sharp lens with a lot of character.
I bought this lens for $30 a few years back. A few weeks after that I bought a lot of vintage mostly eastern European 35mm film cameras which I thought would be bodies only for $40. 2 of them had Helios 44-2's attached to them and one a nice Pentacon 50mm/f1.8. The lenses were worth more than the bodies. It sure was a nice surprise.
My Pentacon 50 f1.8 has stuck aperture rings, I tried opening it to fix but the assembly is far too complex for me to figure out how to put it back together so I've left it as is.
You are funny. For the most part they were garbage and people at all cost tried to get foreign stuff. At some point a reel-to-reel Japanese VCR (not VHS) was priced as much as a Soviet-made car! Soviet optics was still inferior to the Japanese one and with respect to salaries was very expensive. But when tourists would come over, exchange one dollar for 10 or 25 roubles - they were happy to buy soviet optics!
Not only did they try replicating the design instead of innovating their own design, but they literally took the Weiss factories and their workers and moved them to the Soviet Union. That’s not incentivizing to innovate that’s just stealing the intellectual and private property of another country, a tactic well known to communists even today. What “incentive” did the soviets have to innovate? Bread lines? Starvation? Gulags? Disappearance for slight political disagreements? Profit IS the incentive that allows capitalist countries to innovate faster and better than any other economic system
people in communist countries desired western tech because it was better, one curious lens (a copy of a western one, that creates blurry image anywhere but in the centre) does not change that
@@Event_LUNAE_Horizon now start talking about jets, m-16 and other "UNIQUE-ALL-USA" things. Maybe someday you realize that most things had a copy or similarity in human history.
This is one of my favorite lenses on my still existing 35 mm analogue cameras. I am a lucky owner of a Zenith 12 XP equipped with this excellent 58 mm lens.
At the Carl Zeiss plant, Soviet citizens also worked as slaves, whom the Nazis deported to Germany as labor. Concentration camp prisoners made up 30% of Carl Zeiss's workers. Therefore, the Soviets have the right to do whatever they want with the products of this campaign.
@@yubin3669 A symbol being on a flag literally doesn't mean anything. Any country could put any symbol on their flag and it would not change a thing. In this case the USSR used the pretext of socialism and socialist imagery to justify the brutal dictatorship and oppression of the population, while it's actual economic model had little if anything to do with socialism.
It's a cool lens but also incredibly overhyped. Yes the bokeh is cool. But only occurs under pretty specific conditions. You need something like 1.5 to 2.5 meters to your subject, be wide open and have several meters between your subject and the background or it will do jack sh*'t. Many of these lenses you can get atm are pretty abused because the entire photo community have hoarded these due to the craze. They are fairly easy to take apart to clean and oil but still that's something you have to be up to. I find myself using my Pentax lenses a lot more than my Helios to be honest.
Don’t worry, they would have disrespected you even without Borat. Question is not about Borat, but in their inherent disrespect to anybody who’s not them.
The M42 mount is probably one of the most versatile, standard lens mounts out there. Have several M42 lenses. Used to pick them up for $5-$15 on eBay 10-15 years ago
I bought this adapter for £40, though there are cheaper ones available. I just wanted this one because it looked the nicest 🤣 amzn.to/459eHFN I also needed an M39 to M42 step up ring (which I didn't have time to talk about in the video), which was like £10. DON'T just buy an M39 to E-Mount adapter because it won't work with this lens. The image will be blurry (long story, but just trust me. I found this out the hard way 😅). The lens was around £50, but I paid a little more because I specifically wanted a silver one as it matched my Canon film camera. You can get cheaper versions. So overall, not horrendously expensive.
The cameras of the sixties had very beautiful characteristics. Unfortunately, these characteristics are not found in modern cameras, and I mean by the characteristics that we glimpse in the photo that was taken. For example, let us remember the pictures of the singer Elvis Presley. Let us examine his pictures a lot and try to look into the characteristics of the cameras of the sixties, how they have a charm and distinction that is not found in Cameras of the current era or those before it from the nineties and eighties Photography or types of cameras have strange properties and advantages, and photography still has secrets and magic that those who make cameras have not yet realized.
The swirly bokeh isn’t just a defect with the Soviet copy-the Carl Zeiss Biotar 58 mm f/2, the lens that they copied, arguably has better swirly bokeh; but people buy the Helios 44-2 because it’s cheaper.
@@d.o.g573The Soviet one is actually a bit better, since they just took the entire Zeiss production line after WW2 and improved upon some of the lens designs in the following year.
I have a Jupiter 37 MC and it's absolutely fantastic. Bought it from a polish photographer that had the original recipt and the lens looks brand new. Retrofitted to a EF mount and is tack sharp on my 5dmk3, love the look you get. While the other L lenses are nice for convenience, there is a "soul" in the pictures you get from older lenses.
Camera nerds are seriously always the coolest people. I’ve never met a photographer wether pro or hobbyist that didnt possess an encyclopedic knowledge of the most intricate parts of the art. Plus old cameras are dope, film is dope, and having the ability to do half the job of development in complete darkness is wizardry and you can’t change my fucking mind.
@@SilentAttackTV if you spool your own rolls you can shoot for next to nothing and get amazing results, film cameras and lenses were absolutely amazing and there's a ton of options. You sure can spend a TON of money on gear if you want to, but it's not like you NEED to. If you want all the digital bells and whistles then you're screwed, yeah.
Another lens with even swirlier bokeh is Helios 40-2. A 85 mm focal length and f/1.5 aperture makes it an incredible portrait lens, especially on cropped cameras. On the downside, it's quite rare (thus, pricy at $550-$800), bulky and the build quality doesn't always pass the test of time well.
1-mocking Kazakhstan for nothing very Western mentality 2- Soviet so communist so it's copy he doesn't get the concept of industrial intelligence and EVERYONE was and is doing it 3- for a"copy" they did better cheaper then the original 4- buying Chinese Communist 🤦🏼
How tf do you have an interest in photography without knowing about the technological supremacy of soviet camera tech at the time. I hate gate keeping but my dude, it’s literally *the* annoying factoid camera nerds love talking about.
I have a 44-3 and a 44-7 which was shipped by accident but I was told to just hold onto. They are very fun lenses and if you can use focus-peaking or AF confirmation chips (Canon EF adapted) then it makes hitting that *very small margin of perfect focus* a lot easier.
I have this exact one in perfect condition, its incredible, I got mine shipped from Ukraine during the beginning of the war, so it took months from delays- the seller wasn't even able to ship the lens for weeks because of all the conflict in the area.
@@mechadonia I'm not able to check anymore since I don't have that account, but I'm 90% sure that his city was almost completely leveled a few weeks after he sent it, really hope he got out before that.
It was not a Soviet copy, it was literally the same Carl Zeiss production line that the USSR received as reparations, because Soviet optics production lines were destroyed by the Germans.
Thank you! The sheer arrogance of people…
@@blueguitar4419 the british thinking they're the smartest again
Capitalism copies all the times, which is precisely not bad, especially if you have to start from above.
That's how easily I discover the dude who made the video needs a bigger lens in his brain to catch more light.
I wouldn't call stealing blueprints and machinery from occupied part of the Germany as "reparations"
Ok, but they did copy thousands of other tech. The 8080 being the most egregious example
"You know, communism."
Wait till he finds out who Carl Zeiss was manufacturing glass for in the 1930s and 1940s lmao.
Never ask:
A man his wage
A woman her weight
A German what their grandfathers were doing from 1933-1945.
i mean congrats to commies i guess? why shouldnt they try to adopt to better technologies? Like man thats normal af. ofc they are going to try to replicate a good design, everyone does. Thats called improvement
You are a communist ? Sad liddle men
Are you implying that German Nazis were Communists? They were hateful towards the USSR. Because they hated Communism. Same with Poland they were Communists too.
Zeiss would've been dead by that time, he was prevalent in the 1840s
Anglo political literacy never ceases to amaze
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I'm amazed, I've never seen those 3 words together before.
Anglo political illiteracy😂
go outside
I was wondering how far down I would have to go to find the angry tankie!
“Because, Communism”… Gets a Chinese Lens Adapter from Amazon.
And Zeiss Jena in GDR
I’m loving all the butt hurt commies
@@Jakob_DK Orestor, later Pentacon, are *very* decent lens.
Which is made by a Capitalist market (China realized Communism doesn't work)
China isn’t communist
There is a special place in hell for those who insert Borat references when they mention Kazakhstan
Isn’t Borat from Kazakhstan in the movie though?
He is from a 100% fictional country (filmed in Romania) that Sacha Baron Cohen for reasons that evade me decided to call after an actual country Kazakhstan
Borat, while funny, is really stereotypical and plan wrong at times
It’s not really better with Kazakhstan than it was in a movie.
@@theDuplicitous have you been to Kazakhstan?
>cuz you know, "communism"
>continues to describe how it's superior to the original
I mean when you literally steal the Weiss factories and all their workers and move them to the Soviet Union it’s no surprise it can compare to the original. The swirly boceh is subjective some people like it some people don’t that doesn’t make it superior. And the mass production and cheap prices are just effects of capitalism rather than communism
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Y so mad?
@@abnoxiouscommie what do you mean lol. Commies are perpetually mad.
@@vanbogan3712 Commies are in a perpetual state of cope.
"Noooo the ussr didn't fall because it was rotten to the core, but because of evil gorbachov and capitalism!!!"
soviets made amazing quality things with great documentation bc they didn’t have to put in planned obsolescence to get more profit
Also why George Lucas said they made the best movies. Artists could be artists and get huge budgets without fear of failing to turn a profit. It was made to be art, and it’s all free on RUclips from MosFilm! Amazing
As a person who lives in post-soviet reality, I have to say that's quite an overstatement. Soviet lenses may be cool, but try to operate USSR-produced camera, for example. There is a risk of... disappointment
@@d.whillmar1740 let's agree that the Soviet Union did a lot of things ver well. Not everything, but a lot. Despite a widespread myth.
@@d.whillmar1740 I have an East German film camera. It still works as opposed to my Pentax K1000. Both are from 1983.
@@TheFaveteLinguis a lot, as long as it was produced for a small group of privileged party-affiliated people or to export abroad.
It's so disheartening to see that the only association with my country is a comedy film that wasn't even filmed in my country
And that it abused romanian locals for a quick buck.
Yeah fuck SBC's racist ass honestly
Yeah seeing him play that clip after he actually did business with a real person from Kazakhstan made me cringe.
It's a piece of satire mate
@@aqua-beryoverused tasteless satire, mate. do that same joke with Israel and see how quickly it becomes not satire and land you in jail for antisemitism
"Considering it's age it operates smoothly and surprising still sharp", you know, Communism quality 😁😁😁
It's sharp only in the center of the frame, so... yep. Looks like communist propaganda: appears to be sharp in the middle, but sucks everywhere else.
Communism quality? So why they were not sold in the west if they were so good? Why he had to import them? Why most of soviet companies collapsed capitalist economy?
Like their housing complexes right? Still standing very nicely(Those lenses are german)
@@BrazilianImperialistmore like ur favelas
@@BrazilianImperialist bro you got dumpstered
Well, that the Soviets copied Carl Zeiss is only part of the story. They actually took most of the Zeiss factory apart and rebuilt it back home as part of post WWII repetitions.
IIRC they already had a factory made to German Spec by 1905 or 1906 (LOMO was founded in 1914's Petrograd for instance).
They continued to co-operate with Weimar (the Germans were the only ones willing to trade with the Soviets) and then got some of the Zeiss factories after WW2 and of course KMZ works to this day.
TLDR: The Russian has been working and perfecting optics, on a German base, for at least 100 years.
@@Thund3r0vYou forgot to say that the Weimar Republic also didn't have a lot of trading partners because of tons of sanctions.
The Americans stripped the Zeiss works at Jena first and took all the good stuff into their sector.
and thats why murica never produced any good lenses?@@snarkymatt585
REPETITIONS 😂😂😂
Most politically literate british person.
Still better than any american
“CoMmUnIsM” 💀🤡🙈😮😢
@@yeetjones927 grrr urrrrghhhh stupid americans11!!!!!!
No actually.
@@yeetjones927Only difference is the Brit knows where more countries are because they stole from those countries lmao
why is bro over complicating "I paid for shipping" 💀
Paid*
@@taylan7094*payeaid
@@taylan7094 .*
Hmmm, maybe the video isn’t actually about shipping and rather about a lens
@palmberry5576 I was talking about the beginning
This was made using reparations equipment. Not only that, the Soviet IMPROVED the Biotar design by shortening the close focus distance. I have a Zeiss Biotar and it’s not quite as good as the Helios, but only by a margin
Based on what evidence?
@@cstgraphpads2091опытный фотограф может сделать сравнение снимков и на глаз. А точные технические данные, например о разрешающей способности оптики, можно сделать по специальным мишеням (их можно распечатать на лазерном принтере) в программе Imatest. Мой товарищ делал такие сравнения не раз, сравнивая советский Zenitar-16 и Canon 15 Fisheye (не в пользу последнего). СССР улучшал просветление в поздних версиях Гелиос 44. А у товарища может быть старенький Биотар. Бедой советской оптики было неровное качество как от партии к партии, так и внутри нее. А так, хорошие (особенно за свои деньги) объективы в СССР имелись.
@@cstgraphpads2091 seriously? Based on the fact that Soviets didn't simply keep producing old German model but found a way to make it better and then sold that. Of course they would find a way to improve it.
Improve and Communism is opposite words. The Soviets NEVER improved anything, they just stole and copied. And ofcourse no Biotar or Sonnar was improved by them, only the Japanese did that ;)
@@Keysersoze30click bait bot, get away
Why would the Communists need to copy a Carl Zeiss JENA lens? That was East German Zeiss.
That’s the problem with western society these days - it’s propagandised FAR beyond the levels of North Korea
Who cares about the facts - this guy was TOLD to think communism was horrible and had no technology..
I bet he thinks the first man in space was an American capitalist 🤷♂️
At the Carl Zeiss plant, Soviet citizens also worked as slaves, whom the Nazis deported to Germany as labor. Concentration camp prisoners made up 30% of Carl Zeiss's workers. Therefore, the Soviets have the right to do whatever they want with the products of this campaign.
@@VictorLarsen-fy9lslies my father worked stop misinformation
@@johnnewman1483 I see your neo nazi colors showing. Totally not a war reparation yeah your one sentence answer totally I'm buy it, not. back up your answer with facts, but you can't so thats why you didn't.
Should someone tell this guy that Kazaksh don't look even remotely like Borat?
they are proud of their ignorance
he doesnt really mean it, chill.
everyfkinbody knows borat's trivia abt it being filmed with a romanian village and the villagers not knowing what he was doing its such an overshared factoid at this point.
That’s the joke around Borat.
The murican and English public "school" system is literally RUclips ( you know the "post -truth era " online platform ) .....And despite capitalism being "obviously" the superior economic system ( smirk , when you can still afford a worldwide army to "entice" foreigners to give you their commodities for almost no money besides toilet paper ) , most of them only can afford to travel from their sofas to the refrigerator ....
Borat jokes must cause an immediate permanent ban.
Great success! 👍🏻👨🏻👍🏻
sneed
Seethe. Cope. Mald.
Why? It’s a great movie.
Why BOrat for Kazakhstan? Borat is like from ROmania or Bulgaria. Khazakhstan they are ASIANS!
Soviet optics are excellent.
Of course, because the optics are German
Ask to the t34 tankers
Yeah no.
No they are not. Some are OK, some even good but the quality control is abysmal (supposedly identical lenses can vary enormously in performance) and while the older (CZ especially) designs were at least sound they failed to develop them. Excellent for the money? - maybe. Excellent full stop - not by a long way..
@@SDRlegacyGermans examined russian tank optics and said they were of good quality. The reason Germans lost is because they overbuilt everything bc "muh master race"
"Excellent is the enemy of good enough"
In Poland everybody is using Helios 😂 You didn’t mention that it’s only sharp in perfect middle of frame, but magic made by this lens is incredible. I got 44-3 which is almost impossible to find now :) great lens so far
Why thou
@@ko-Daegunot everyone uses Helios. Source: I'm Helios
Jaksiemasz
As a polish person, i can confirm i don't know anything about photography
@@Wilma5532Most of these lenses come from Poland. Source: eBay
The 44-2 was one of the most produced lenses ever.
- They weren't *trying* to copy, it *is* a literal copy of the Carl Zeiss Biotar 58/2. The optical construction is identical. Some early ones were even made with Zeiss components from the Jena factory.
- For the same reason the swirly bokeh is not a defect but practically identical to what's produced by the Biotar. (ignoring sample variation and coating differences)
- This kind of bokeh is not unique but common to a lot of fast lenses of the same era.
I have a Biotar and a Helios. The Helios is actually an improvement because the closest focus distance is much closer. Minor improvement but improvement nonetheless.
Yep. This video gets it all wrong. This cheap lens is so popular and not some secret Soviet magical lens. And there are so many different variations from different Soviet factories and revisions that it’s hard to know the good from the bad.
It's unique in price
@@NandRthe one with the line and circles and arrows is best the one he has is second best It looks like trapezoid. Rest not good
@@NandR 44-2 is good de clicked mine for cinema. Though your right there's other lenses like it, they all tend to cost more and unlike the 44 variants wasn't made for 50 years on end. Vostock watches has some nice models but they made them for so long so not rare and worth a bit less then otherwise, that and the weird crowns with clutch some hate /don't understand isn't broken it's just always wobbly to protect mech from hard shocks that would bend the outside of the case where the crown screws in.
The Soviets made some pretty great things
Like thin women!
Like soup lines!
Like famine!
@@Omar-lq3riAmerica one upped them there with starving homeless on the street, glory to America
@@user-dt4sr8yl2rHey! Don’t forget pushing several countries into poverty and/or dictatorship through imperialism, it’s a TWO up!
Soviet lenses are actually quite good.
*decent*
Best thing about soviet products is that they aren’t made to break so you need to buy a new one all 5 years. For example some soviet mixers are legendary for being nearly indestructible and that for 60 years plus
@@janekmundt579 As indestructible as shitty and unmovable.
@@janekmundt579 the soviet color TV set of my childhood lasted more than 20 years. We sold it still functioning.
@@janekmundt579there's glass from the GDR that doesn't break if it falls
when planned obsolescence wasn't as prevalent as now
I mean, if it wasn't manufactured with profits in mind, why would they plan to make it obsolete?
Because the only planned thing about production was the economy based on satisfaction of people’s needs and not profit maximization of capitalists
Now everything is 'cause, you know, capitalism.
@@guilhermesiqueirafigueredo9790 Don't we all love buying the same shit every 2-3 years?
@@Shredding101 make that monthly for printer ink
The Soviets took a practical approach to the lenses they made, much like a lot of other products they engineered - don't fix (redesign) it if it's not broken.
As you can see from the sharpness of this 1960s Helios, there was really no massive benefit in the Soviets redesigning the lens that fulfilled its purpose.
Although the base design was the same as the CZJ version, the Soviets still had to recalculate the optical design based on the Soviet glass that was being produced at the time, which had slightly different characteristics.
Then, from the 50-s right through to the 90's, they gradually improved the sharpness (and QC) of the Helioses they produced, so by the time the 44-6 and 44-7 were released, they were perfectly optimised for mass manufacturing, and much sharper than the original versions.
At the Carl Zeiss plant, Soviet citizens also worked as slaves, whom the Nazis deported to Germany as labor. Concentration camp prisoners made up 30% of Carl Zeiss's workers. Therefore, the Soviets have the right to do whatever they want with the products of this campaign.
Please, don't use Borat to show Kazakhstan
Please, don't try to dictate humour.
@@TomCalton least racist british
@@TomCalton “Humour” 🤡
@@TomCalton uses Borat speaking bad Polish to represent Kazachstan, wth xd
Хорошая шутка . Мне понравилось!
Proud owner of a vintage Soviet film camera, it uses 8mm film and it's pretty scarce these days, but trust me, it's magic is on another level. The quality is so sharp, it's like... 4K of film camera quality lmao
Who makes 8mm film for cameras? The only 8mm film being made is for cinematography. You would have to buy it bulk & spool it into a cartridge yourself.
That’s film it depends on the quality of your film mostly
@@k-ozdragon well duh, it's kinda like a camcorder, so it uses film for video cameras but produces both photos and videos in different modes. Also, it's fully mechanical, so you need to wind up the spring to use video feature. Kinda funny gimmick, sadly I lost the original holding handle for it(sticking with a tripod for now)
@@pipipipipipipipi_ I don't see how you would use a cinema camera as a photography camera. If you could use it like one, it would only record one frame, which is about 1\16th of a second. You couldn't even isolate the image to print it, as it would be one frame in an entire massive roll of film. Film does have fairly high resolution, but 8mm is extremely small & not particularly high res; especially compared to 35mm.
Not saying it definitely doesn't exist, but certainly sounds extremely strange & not the most practical. I've never heard of a film & photography combo camera. You can use 8mm film in certain photo cameras, but it has to be cut & then respooled first.
@@k-ozdragon well, that's not the case here. The film goes on standard 8mm cinema camera spools, and yes indeed, in camera mode it just snaps one picture. However, there is a slider to adjust the frame rate of the video, that way, the exposure can be customized for various occasions. So yes, it is highly unpractical and extremely bulky, but I love it, and it produces nice photos ngl. For me it is the choice between this behemoth and a cheap 35mm camera, so yeah, I opt for the first usually. Offers great customization and has two(!) sets of undetachable lens(photo and video, respectively)
Fun fact: Borat's utterance is actually Czech, spelling correctly "Jak se máš?" meaning "How are you?"
He rather speaks Polish ("Jak się masz?") since in another place he says Polish "Dzień dobry" (good day), not Czech "Dobrý den".
not fun and not fact
@@maciejpankow1092 In any Slav language you can say Dzien dobry or Dobry den, there are no difference. In a lot languages both forms used randomly
@@juliap.5375In Poland we never say 'dobry dzień', it would sound extremely artificial. Nor have I encountered a situation where a Czech says "den dobry", although I could be wrong here. Borat's pronunciation, on the other hand, is clearly Polish.
And this is great!
soviets didn't copy, the took over carl zeiss factories, and made the same lenses on a budget.
They didn't conceptualise the original design. They made a new lens using an existing blueprint. This is copying. Did they have the rights to the original design? Most likely. I never said they stole the design. It's an important distinction.
@@TomCalton I dont think anyone could dispute or call them out on stealing when they literally occupied factories that produced them.
@@TomCaltonbrother, stick to the camera shit and out of the politics. You’re embarrassing yourself
@@TomCaltonyou’re such a cop out. You made an ignorant statement and won’t admit it.
@@Event_LUNAE_Horizonreparations equals stealing? Not sure about that one son
Smartest Angloid alive:
Zeiss Optics is in Jena and that was in Eastern Germany. So communism. Actually socialism to be precise
"Because COMMUNISM" Wha... What? Is communism known for copying? Am I missing something here?
The overused joke is cOmUnIsM iS wEn No [ insert product ]
Well not communism perse, but the Soviets were known to be copycats.
@@duwang8499 I thought it's common all around the world...
@@blacktriangleband4231 Yeah it is.
But the Soviets... were rather high skilled in the topic of "Let's try to copy this!".
@@duwang8499 yea tell me) I live in Moscow ... a lot of things were desined originaly for example famous polivox synthesizer or a spuntik, or a first ever nuclear plant...
"Where did you get that?"
"I had a boeing 747 directly transport it all the way from a quaint little mountain town, 30 miles east of the capital of kazakhstan. It was then lovingly handed over to the operator of a renult traffic where it was promptly brought to my front door by a handsome gentleman in brown shorts"
Model pics were awesome she looks beautiful in the pics great results from a Soviet lens
There are some things you need to know about Soviet lenses (coming from a Russian photography enthusiast, both film and digital):
- most of these lenses, like Jupiter-3, Jupiter-8, Mir-1/1B, Helios 44-2/44-3/44-6, have a simple rule - earlier the year of production, better the quality
- best portrait monster Mir-1B is the one with “Grand Pride Brussels” line engraved;
- due to mass production of Helios, you better Google their symbols: arrow and a circle - Valdai, worst kind of them all; something looking like a trapezoid curved bread - Minsk, they’re good for their price and can give a bit more light; arrow with pierced triangle end going through a trapezoid - KMZ, classic old production (if the arrow doesn’t have a tip or it’s fully painted - it means it’s newer, can be late Perestroika or even new Russian made);
- Industar-50 3,5 and Industar-50-2 3,5 ARE NOT THAT BAD. TRY THEM ON FUJI!
- If you are lucky to have a broken Smena Symbol or Smena-8 camera, you can look for guides on how to detach it’s beautiful lens system and adapt it to M39 (Leica mount);
- better buy some M39 to your camera adapter in addition to your M42 adapter OR you can buy some cheap Soviet adapter rings from M39 to M42!
Thanks for all that information. Slava Russia 🇷🇺
@@derkonig162 Incredible amounts of bias can be found only in wild animals... And also most of russians, arent ya similar actually?
@@F.B.I1american talking about bias, very funny go on buddy
@@2-u american?, Bold of you to assume, as bold as being russian
Love the Industar-50-2!
Solviet were the best engineers at the time from tanks to tools
Facts. Imagine how much of a progress humanity would make once America becomes socialist.
iPhones will become modular and long-lasting, everyone will have a home, and there will be space bases on the Moon and Mars
@@Shifftee yeah but to bad americans were tricked into living into living socialism that benifits the rich like we pay taxes but for what
haha that's hilarious. They didn't design crap in this case, they took the whole CZ factory back to Ukraine. Hell, they even failed at that: when they took the equipment they broke and/or rendered a lot of it useless by keeping it out in the open for weeks, including the state of the art coating equipment which CZ were pioneering. Kiev? Contax. The first batches still have the "Contax" nameplate underneath the Kiev badge, visible if you take one apart. Zorki? Leica III. Kiev 88? Hasselblad copy. Cars and trucks? copied/reverse engineered from trucks the americans supplied for WW2. The only things of relevance the soviets actually designed back then were the tanks, which did have some very clever engineering behind them; their main claim to glory still was the sheer number of them they churned out, though.
I'm not dissing the people, not at all. Soviet people were amazing for what they put up with and endured. But this "soviet engineering" romantizacion falls to pieces the moment you actually look stuff up and/or actually hold some of it in your hands. I FIX cameras and have been doing so for ten years. Ever opened up a Zenit? trust me, those are no engineering masterpiece. Engineers even needed to take the abysmal manufacturing tolerances into account, there was a chasm between what was designed and what actually came out of the factory. When those concessions are needed the final product will invariably be orders of magnitude worse than it could have been were the execution of the design actually competent.
/rant
Have my fathers old Soviet shirt it looks it’s brand new ngl.
@@Shiffteethis but unironically
Its from the 1960s and its still atleast 4 times better than my phone camera
It’s only crisp like that in the center of the lense, but as he said that’s why people like it.
xd
Well there is a limit to bruteforcing physics with computers - professional optics didn't shrink when they went digital.
Size of the frame matters, in mobile phones it's tiny. And also old 645 film camera has far above image quality than modern full-frame 35mm professional devices have..
Was that soviet anthem earrape realy neccesary
If you want Swirl try the 16KP-1.2/50 projection lens.
Those are really great lenses for the price. I bought two, brand new in box, for around $20 each. They'll jump in price as soon as some famous RUclipsr makes a video about them lol
Better 1.4/65 version, you can even put aperture mechanism in it.
Fun fact: Karl Zeiss made all the sniper rifle optics for the German army in WW2z
Ford factories worked in Nazi Germany and bypassed the sanctions on the importation of equipment and materials imposed on the country
And that's a bad thing how? Just means German snipers had good scopes.
Well swirl is actually present on Biotar 58mm f2. That is not defect it is simply thing that happened in that design. And a lot of German lenses from that era have swirl. So Helios 44 and Helios 40 do same because they took Zeiss formula. Jupiters doesn't swirl because they are copys of older Zeiss Sonnar design.
Nice! Thanks for the clarification ☺️
It's actually a flaw in the lens design called sagittal astigmatism. Lens designers worked hard to remove this flaw. Now people pay big bucks for it. Biotar recently released a new version of the Biotar 58mm with the astigmatism included. It's an amazingly sharp lens with a lot of character.
I bought this lens for $30 a few years back. A few weeks after that I bought a lot of vintage mostly eastern European 35mm film cameras which I thought would be bodies only for $40. 2 of them had Helios 44-2's attached to them and one a nice Pentacon 50mm/f1.8. The lenses were worth more than the bodies. It sure was a nice surprise.
ive got the same pentacon lens and yeah its real nice
My Pentacon 50 f1.8 has stuck aperture rings, I tried opening it to fix but the assembly is far too complex for me to figure out how to put it back together so I've left it as is.
Well that popular zeiss lens was incidentaly built by communists as well as the Carl Zeiss was in Jena, East Germany (DDR).
Those balloons caught me off guard..
Soviet products where the best
You are funny. For the most part they were garbage and people at all cost tried to get foreign stuff. At some point a reel-to-reel Japanese VCR (not VHS) was priced as much as a Soviet-made car! Soviet optics was still inferior to the Japanese one and with respect to salaries was very expensive. But when tourists would come over, exchange one dollar for 10 or 25 roubles - they were happy to buy soviet optics!
@@vrokhlenko i still use a lot of soviet tech, amplifiers, tools, lenses etc... works perfect...
The part that is German, yes.
what is it? it doesn't shine and doesn't fit in the ass
-Soviet device that glows in the ass
You had the incentive to innovate, not to make a profit. And you get such durable things people nowadays can only dream of.
Not only did they try replicating the design instead of innovating their own design, but they literally took the Weiss factories and their workers and moved them to the Soviet Union. That’s not incentivizing to innovate that’s just stealing the intellectual and private property of another country, a tactic well known to communists even today. What “incentive” did the soviets have to innovate? Bread lines? Starvation? Gulags? Disappearance for slight political disagreements? Profit IS the incentive that allows capitalist countries to innovate faster and better than any other economic system
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tankie on that capitalism hating copium, praising german lens that soviets copied 1:1 as an "achievement
people in communist countries desired western tech because it was better, one curious lens (a copy of a western one, that creates blurry image anywhere but in the centre) does not change that
@@Event_LUNAE_Horizon now start talking about jets, m-16 and other "UNIQUE-ALL-USA" things. Maybe someday you realize that most things had a copy or similarity in human history.
This is one of my favorite lenses on my still existing 35 mm analogue cameras. I am a lucky owner of a Zenith 12 XP equipped with this excellent 58 mm lens.
Brits getting absolutely smoked never gets old
People don't have the most basic understanding of what communism is
It's failed Everytime cry harder
@@Schrödinger10485 it shows that you also don't understand what it is, otherwise you wouldn't think that stupidity
I have the anamorphic mod of this lens and it’s amazing, not the sharpest lens but very beautiful fall off and flaring
You can buy this literally everywhere 😂
The shipping was more than the lens is worth.
At the Carl Zeiss plant, Soviet citizens also worked as slaves, whom the Nazis deported to Germany as labor. Concentration camp prisoners made up 30% of Carl Zeiss's workers. Therefore, the Soviets have the right to do whatever they want with the products of this campaign.
"You know, communism."
The Soviet Union was State-Capitalist.
care to explain the hammer and sickle on the top left corner of the flag of USSR?
@@yubin3669 You're kidding, right? This is a joke, correct?
@@Mr-DNA_ I am straight forward, explain.
@@yubin3669 A symbol being on a flag literally doesn't mean anything. Any country could put any symbol on their flag and it would not change a thing. In this case the USSR used the pretext of socialism and socialist imagery to justify the brutal dictatorship and oppression of the population, while it's actual economic model had little if anything to do with socialism.
@@Mr-DNA_ That's a good explanation, I am not familiar to the economic system of the USSR so I wont argue with anything, thank you.
I stumbled across the 13 blade version for £1 at a charity shop, with original pouch and russian papers. Still can't believe it.
It's a cool lens but also incredibly overhyped. Yes the bokeh is cool. But only occurs under pretty specific conditions. You need something like 1.5 to 2.5 meters to your subject, be wide open and have several meters between your subject and the background or it will do jack sh*'t. Many of these lenses you can get atm are pretty abused because the entire photo community have hoarded these due to the craze. They are fairly easy to take apart to clean and oil but still that's something you have to be up to. I find myself using my Pentax lenses a lot more than my Helios to be honest.
I swear if i hear one more Borat joke about Kazakhstan i will make shure nobody gets potassium
Very nice 👍👍👍
Omg please stop using Borat reference to Kazakhstan, it’s an awful movie that disrespects our culture and country
Don’t worry, they would have disrespected you even without Borat. Question is not about Borat, but in their inherent disrespect to anybody who’s not them.
I got it along with a 1970s zenit b film camera and their leather case for 30€ at a flea market
Nice!
Helios 44 is one of the most interesting lenses ever made🔥🔥🔥
Another favorite of mine is Super Takumar 🔥
"kazakhstan" part sounds like "jak sie masz", and its polish )))
Awesome Lens!
Without visual aid I'd have thought you was talking about a gun
The M42 mount is probably one of the most versatile, standard lens mounts out there. Have several M42 lenses. Used to pick them up for $5-$15 on eBay 10-15 years ago
“Uh my name a borat”
How much for the lense and the adapter? It looks really special!
I bought this adapter for £40, though there are cheaper ones available. I just wanted this one because it looked the nicest 🤣
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I also needed an M39 to M42 step up ring (which I didn't have time to talk about in the video), which was like £10. DON'T just buy an M39 to E-Mount adapter because it won't work with this lens. The image will be blurry (long story, but just trust me. I found this out the hard way 😅).
The lens was around £50, but I paid a little more because I specifically wanted a silver one as it matched my Canon film camera. You can get cheaper versions. So overall, not horrendously expensive.
Don't buy a cheap one, it will damage your camera. K&F makes a good one for around $40. Avoid the cheap $15 ones
In soviet there's a saying, if it works it works, don't ask me how and why but it works ☭
The cameras of the sixties had very beautiful characteristics. Unfortunately, these characteristics are not found in modern cameras, and I mean by the characteristics that we glimpse in the photo that was taken. For example, let us remember the pictures of the singer Elvis Presley. Let us examine his pictures a lot and try to look into the characteristics of the cameras of the sixties, how they have a charm and distinction that is not found in Cameras of the current era or those before it from the nineties and eighties
Photography or types of cameras have strange properties and advantages, and photography still has secrets and magic that those who make cameras have not yet realized.
We have some old Carl Ziess, yashica, and Meyer-Gorlitz lenses that were all
So the Soviets created a better version?
It's the same thing. Nearly identical to a CZ Biotar.
The only real difference is the boceh and that’s purely subjective so if you like the swirly edges then yeah you can call it better
Been wanting this lens for awhile. With the uptick in business it might be time to try it out
I love this lens. I use it as my main lens
He basically describes package delivery as something exciting. 🤣
The swirly bokeh isn’t just a defect with the Soviet copy-the Carl Zeiss Biotar 58 mm f/2, the lens that they copied, arguably has better swirly bokeh; but people buy the Helios 44-2 because it’s cheaper.
Smartest American ☝️
Borat jokes are so dumb bruh
Me: *buys Photoshop filter for $1.99*
This "jackshemash" in Polish means "How are you"
Not 44-2, it's simple 44.
I am happy to see, that you taked my advice to buy the KZM Version after your first Helios Lens!
"You know communism" ahh yes corporate spyonage isnt a thing in capitalism.
The Borat joke hasn't aged well. It's time to leave it. Just because you British self deprecate for humour doesn't mean that others operate that way.
They occupied zeiss jena factory and a lot of machines, engineers from Zeiss etc got in USSR after ww2.
This is an incredible lens. Once I sat down and compared it with some of my others, I was shocked at its performance.
did you try the original German one ?
@@d.o.g573The Soviet one is actually a bit better, since they just took the entire Zeiss production line after WW2 and improved upon some of the lens designs in the following year.
I have a Jupiter 37 MC and it's absolutely fantastic. Bought it from a polish photographer that had the original recipt and the lens looks brand new. Retrofitted to a EF mount and is tack sharp on my 5dmk3, love the look you get. While the other L lenses are nice for convenience, there is a "soul" in the pictures you get from older lenses.
people in the comments offended because he dissed communism, yuck
Seems no one can take a joke anymore 🤷🏻♂️
The image quality and lens durability is because the soviets built their shit to last ages
Built without planned obscolensce
Camera nerds are seriously always the coolest people. I’ve never met a photographer wether pro or hobbyist that didnt possess an encyclopedic knowledge of the most intricate parts of the art.
Plus old cameras are dope, film is dope, and having the ability to do half the job of development in complete darkness is wizardry and you can’t change my fucking mind.
Probably because gear is expensive as fuck and you can't really throw away money by buying something that might not be good
@@SilentAttackTV if you spool your own rolls you can shoot for next to nothing and get amazing results, film cameras and lenses were absolutely amazing and there's a ton of options. You sure can spend a TON of money on gear if you want to, but it's not like you NEED to. If you want all the digital bells and whistles then you're screwed, yeah.
Another lens with even swirlier bokeh is Helios 40-2. A 85 mm focal length and f/1.5 aperture makes it an incredible portrait lens, especially on cropped cameras. On the downside, it's quite rare (thus, pricy at $550-$800), bulky and the build quality doesn't always pass the test of time well.
That has nothing to do with communism..😅😅
Communism is when you pay for shipping/j
Isn’t this about exactly what the Petzval lens does? Which in 2013 was successfully crowdfunded!
i have this lens and it's amazing!
The perfect loop doesn't exi-wow
For real. I was all the way to borat before I caught on.
You can hear the nasty cut, and not just because he says "and that's why" before the loop like everyone else who tries this shit
1-mocking Kazakhstan for nothing very Western mentality
2- Soviet so communist so it's copy he doesn't get the concept of industrial intelligence and EVERYONE was and is doing it
3- for a"copy" they did better cheaper then the original
4- buying Chinese Communist 🤦🏼
Don't think. The main thing is to blame communism for everything, even if it makes you look like an idiot in the end.
I like that 90% of comments are slandering him for his "communist" take. This world is not lost yet.
wait till he finds out that Jena, the city where Karl Zeiss comes from, was in eastern germany
What about that, what do you want to say, is there something special about Jena
I have an old Zenit-E lying around with the same Helios 44-2 lens lying around. I use it to this day and it produces sharp quality. Razor sharp.
How tf do you have an interest in photography without knowing about the technological supremacy of soviet camera tech at the time. I hate gate keeping but my dude, it’s literally *the* annoying factoid camera nerds love talking about.
That portrait is amazing
Commies lost their sh..t😂
I have a 44-3 and a 44-7 which was shipped by accident but I was told to just hold onto. They are very fun lenses and if you can use focus-peaking or AF confirmation chips (Canon EF adapted) then it makes hitting that *very small margin of perfect focus* a lot easier.
I have this exact one in perfect condition, its incredible, I got mine shipped from Ukraine during the beginning of the war, so it took months from delays- the seller wasn't even able to ship the lens for weeks because of all the conflict in the area.
Very impressive he got it out to you at all while his country was being bombed, that’s a man that stands on business
@@mechadonia I'm not able to check anymore since I don't have that account, but I'm 90% sure that his city was almost completely leveled a few weeks after he sent it, really hope he got out before that.