How I Pack My Ultralight Frameless Backpack - For Thru Hiking
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- My backpack has no frame, it doesn't have much volume, and I don't use any stuff sacks. How can I pack it to be super comfortable, maximum efficiency, safety, and to fill all the space leaving no gear behind? I am setting off on the Pacific Crest Trail soon, and this is how I pack my pack. I have used these same methods on my Appalachian Trail thru hike, as well as the Arizona Trail, Pacific Northwest Trail, and every other long hike I've done! I believe it to be a good skill to practice as it will benefit you in multiple ways to more deeply evaluate how you pack your gear, ultralight or not!
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There is no true one best way to pack a backpack for hiking, as everyone has a slightly different bag. Mine is frameless while yours may have a frame for instance. Still I think there's some good things you can still take away from this video that is applicable to everyone!
- Pack your heaviest gear (usually food, and electronics) closest to your back and your core, as this will help to make your pack feel lighter weight, even while carrying the same gear you always do. If you have heavy items away from you towards the outside of the pack, that weight will be pulling you backwards and putting more pressure on your shoulders all day! Making the pack feel heavier, even if it isn't.
- No stuff sacks(or less!) and pack your gear loose inside the pack. Let your quilt or sleeping bag fill up the space at the bottom, your tent or shelter fill up space around your food bag, and your clothes fit into any other empty nook. Filling the space more evenly will distribute the weight inside your pack better than if you were to use stuff sacks, as a stuff sack can often be like a dense melon of weight & gear. Stuff sacks can also lead to uncomfortable lumps poking you in the back, while gear stuffed loosely will make for a more comfortable ride.
- Stuff sacks can also harm your quilt and your insulating layers. Stuffing them tightly compresses the down or synthetic insulation, and will cause those layers to be less warm when you do need them. So having insulation packed loose will allow it to breath better, and retain more of it's loft and warmth extending the life of that gear further.
- When I pack my pack, the main thing I am thinking of is the priority of gear, when throughout the day am I going to need a specific piece of gear, or am I going to need it at all. Quilt goes at the bottom since I won't need it until the very end of the day, while my medical kit, and my rain jacket goes at the very top so when I need it I can get to it easily and quickly without having to unpack everything.
- Each night look into the weather for the next day (if you can,) and the trail conditions for what is ahead. This will give you a better idea of what you will need most accessible. If it's going to be cold and windy I will need different gear at the ready vs if it will be sunny exposed and super hot.
- Keep any food, and gear you will FOR SURE need during the day on the very outside of your pack in shoulder strap pockets, mesh pockets, or fanny pack so you won't need to stop and unpack just to use it. Efficiency in this way allows you to spend more time doing what you want, hiking, and less time messing with your packs content.
- If you use a frameless pack, use your sleeping pad as a frame! Pack your foam pad first, closest to your back, and let that add rigidity and comfort to your pack. This also works with air mattresses if you deflate it, fold it down to the size of your pack, and use it as a frame. Some foam pads are too large for this, and I would just strap it to the top of my pack, which has advantages as well! Now you could use it more easily as a sit pad.
0:00 - Intro
0:21 - Pack Priority
1:02 - No Stuff Sacks
1:45 - Sleeping Pad
2:27 - Pack Liner
2:51 - Quilt
3:28 - Low Priority Gear
3:50 - Food Bag
4:48 - Ground Cloth
5:13 - Cook Pot
5:25 - Shelter
6:06 - High Priority Items
6:42 - Electronics & Medical
7:25 - Waterproof Everything
8:07 - Loosen up
8:33 - Top Priority Items
9:08 - Hang Your Socks
9:28 - Tent Stakes
9:56 - Recap
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I don't think there is any true one best way to pack a backpack, but this is how I do it! What am I missing or what do you do differently? Thanks for watching!
this is awesome and so informative!
One thing I haven't seen anywhere is how people close / roll up the V2s. Do you clip the top after buttoning before rolling? Have you tried rolling it up and then doing the clip? I don't think it makes much of a difference but maybe it does!
I used to put my neon air at the back, but I suspect this to be the cause of the reflective material showing holes when held against the light due to abrasion, so I would not recommend it anymore
@@rylanbytnar6713 I actually cut off the clips and just snap it, fold it, then roll it.
Pack everything perfectly take out something on trail, hi lump nice to meet you.
You have helped me SO MUCH to become more lightweight for my PCT trek this summer. I never thought I'd be the backpacker who weighs her gear, but I'm here and I'm loving it! I'm far from ultralight, but I've cut literally my base weight in half thanks to your advice. It's going to save my poor knees and back from so much of the pain I've experienced in the past. You have been a huge inspiration! Keep it up and happy hiking!
Definitely don't go as nuts as me but it's a great practice to carry a bit less weight, hopefully enjoy the hike more, and find the things you truly want and the things that keep you safe!
You no doubt have never thought of this but you have, and still are, helping me pack my burros' pack saddle bags as ultralight and efficient and comfortable as possible!!! We all thank you so much! I don't think anyone who does burro packing has made huge efforts to go ultralight as much as possible. But I am. Same issues as w a human backpacking, such as overuse injuries, joint trauma, ability to go further, etc etc should be considered for our pack animals.
It may seem like a "woosy" way of packing into the backcountry but I'll tell ya, everything from logistics, planning where to go, where to camp, what to bring, how to pack, what one has to do once in camp (lots more work!), and the worries and priorities one has, become exponentially more complicated
That is awesome!!!!! Thank you so much for letting me know. I hope the burros appreciate it!! And though I have not thought of that animal specifically I do always look at dogs with the backpacking gear and feel like the human should be the one carrying it lol
As always, another very helpful video. I've been able to reduce my pack weight by 50%. Not truly ultralight, but went from 35 pounds (true beginner) to 25 pounds, now 15 pounds. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
Thanks for the packing update Jupiter. I'll be following along as you hike :)
Been checking out your backpacking advice and adventures. Keep ‘em coming!
Good ideas which make you think about your own habits. Very much appreciated, as always.
Sooo good bro! Hiking the Colorado trail in a few weeks and your vids have been life changing! Double high fives my brutha
One tip I've picked up over the years is to wrap my ground cloth (I'm a hammock camper so my ground cloth is only like 3x3') around my stakes to pad them a bit, before throwing them in the stretch pocket with my tarp. I don't know, but it feels like cheap protection at the pointy ends of the stakes. And if I did poke q hole in my ground cloth, it's not really a big deal. My ground cloth is just intended to keep my stuff a little cleaner under my tarp. It doesn't really need to be 100% waterproof.
Man just what the doctor ordered. Thanks for showing us this!
You are super eloquent and friendly. Lots of good advice; feels like getting good advice from a friend without being dogmatically persuaded. Many thanks & greetings from Germany.
This is valuable knowledge right here. I have been using too many stuff sacks. I thank you and my back thanks you as well.
I always appreciate when you make these kind of videos because it gives me ideas of my own that help fine tune all the details of my hiking life. Thank you.
I definitely realize that not everything I do in backpacking works for most people (my sleeping pad for instance!) but always hope in some way I can provide information that is applicable to anyone. As always everyone does stuff different, and there is no 'best' way to backpack. And that's the fun! Though I am glad that these vids are helpful and provide ideas to add to their own backpacking world
Excellent message. Your strategies are finding their way into the rest of my life as well. Ultra lite backpacker mind…. :)
This so an informative video. I am transitioning into a lightweight backpacker. Just purchase a very light backpack and on the process of trimming down my backpacking gears. Your other videos help me a lot to trim down. Next month, I am going for a 6-day trek and will gonna put it to the test if I’m successful in going light.
Awesome Jupiter. Your videos have been so helpful to me in how to stay lightweight as well as other small things you have shared throughout your videos. Found your channel a few months ago and this is my first comment, but awesome videos and awesome advise and suggestions. Happy trails!
happy to have you here!
Always amazed by how little you carry. Thank you!
My packs not huge but seeing his is like he's going on a day or two hike. Very impressive.
Holy shiz I thought you were crazy about no stuff sack but this worked really well for me! I have so much more free space in my pack now. I was worried that I could barely fit 4 days of food but now I could make it up to 10 days for sure. 🤯🤯🤯
Good stuff Jupiter. Met you on the Long Trail the day you were heading into the Stagecoach Inn in Waterbury. Always enjoy your content! 🤘🕓
Your videos are excellent.
This was really helpful. Thanks for all the tips!
Thank you for addressing how you deal with wet items. It seems most leave that important detail out of their videos.
I also priority pack, also put sleeping bag loose in bottom of pack, but inside large turkey roasting bag mostly by itself, with another bag for everything else. Wanna keep that bag dry specially if something else leaks. Good explanations!
I appreciate your explanations! Thank you :)
Great information, I’ve been thinking about ditching stuff sacks
Give it a try sometime! Or lose one at a time and see what you think
Gracias. Buenos tips y vídeos siempre. 👍
Amazing. We´ll both start our more or less "half year" hike soon, but I carry so much more stuff! Very interesting how you organize yourself, would love to tru hike too. Enjoy the preparations!
Definitely enjoying the trip prep!! Hope you enjoy your travels this year as well!
insightful. thank you JupiterHikes.
Very informative! I basically do the same but (assuming I’m not in griz country) I will take all my current day’s food after eating breakfast and have that in my front mesh pocket in a separate ziploc to prevent me from having to dig into the middle of my bag to get my food for the day, while it is still the thing in the very center of my pack. Thanks for the great videos over the years!
I forgot to mention, but also carry all of my days food on the outside of my pack!
I’ve evolved over the years to a similar system, thanks in part to your inspiration. I’ve trimmed my summer kit down to around 8 pounds base weight, enabling me to use a 35 L pack, and I used this setup 2 years ago to hike my first unsupported 100-miler. I’ve gradually ditched all my stuff sacks except the DCF stuff sack for my down quilt. I just can’t bring myself to forego the extra layer of moisture protection for my sleep system here in the eastern US where conditions are often wet, wet, wet. I think out west I’d be ok with just the pack liner to protect it. TBH, I don’t recall ever having much moisture breach my pack liner, but everything else I have dries pretty quickly. Talk me off the ledge?
Nice!!
I use a DCF wallet to hold my stakes and keep them at the bottom of my pack. It also hold my DCF tape and patches for my Uberlight pad.
How does that work? When I stop to pitch up for the night, my priority is to get my shelter up, especially if the wet stuff is flying in sideways at me. So the last thing I want to be doing is digging down to the bottom of my pack, exposing everything to the weather, before I can raise and secure my shelter.
When it's up, I can unpack in dry protected space, whatever I want next: in my case my sleep mat for comfort and warmth and my cook kit so that a hot drink and the boiling water for hydrating my meal are on the way ready to enjoy asap. While the water boils, I can unpack anything else I need.
Before tear-down, having breakfasted and dressed to suit the weather, everything gets packed away while inside my tent. One last look-around, and a check to be sure there's nothing leftin the pockets and nothing forgotten left lying on the floor, and it gets packed or stowed last, complete with poles n pegs so it's readily available later when I want to make camp.
Saves time st both ends of the day, and there's the peace of mind from knowing nothing has been forgotten and left behind.
So nice and helpful, but sad that the backpack is sold out, as I need an ultralight backpack for my 1 month trip through the balkan mountains next week ;) Have a wonderful weekend.
❤ya brother thanks for sharing your passion
Sometimes I wish I could go ultralight. But I like my q core sleep pad and camp chair lol. Good video bud
Everyones got their things! The beauty in backpacking is all the different ways of doing it and the style everyone brings
I think your way of packing is really efficient and it's certainly not a disadvantage to compress the quilt as little as possible, but I've seen tests claiming high quality down don't degrade by repeated compressions (compress for long time storage is a different matter). I wouldn't worry about fairly hard compression when needed.
Cook pot!!!!! lol. I went stoveless this year. Excited to try new things.
Still stoveless! But wanted to include the cookpot since that is what most people still use
Compression down doesnt damage it, if you do it when the down is wet, it will over time - but dry down can actually be compressed for a long time without any damage :) - but agree with you in how i store it while on a hike, because its often not completely dry when storing it in your pack
Tent stakes are the only thing I think would really benefit from having a separate ditty bag for the reasons you mentioned and how dirty they are.
Foodbag, quiltbag, clothesbag, stakesbag, stovebag, electronicsbag, tentbag, trashbag... Guess I'm a bag guy. Compressing my quilt does feel wrong as I make it into a flat panel against my back which probs is killing the loft. I think come spring I need to try something new, great tips again!
Very informative
Obviously the trade-off between comfort and weight is where the tough decisions have to be made. I really can't commit to not having an enclosed tent in favour of a tarp and an inflatable sleeping pad with pillow is important for me. This all means I'll never achieve the lightest pack possible however I will get the rest I need. In Australia we have so many creepy crawlies and rodents at night that tarps are not really an option although there are a few who do use them.
I'm always freaking out about my tent stakes puncturing something. Here's what I do with my 6 shepherd hook tent stakes - I cut about a 1" x 1.5" rectangle of regular cardboard. I insert the pointed side into the holes already in the end of the cardboard between the layers. Then, I made a little tyvek sleeve the exact size of the cardboard and length of the stakes (all laying "flat" now). The little setup weighs less than 30g and gives me huge piece of mind plus less chance of losing or misplacing them. Finally, I store them in the outside mesh pocket, of course! :)
Always good information and entertaining ! It seems like maybe your tent stakes could be an exception to the No stuff sack rule . Just to keep them from damaging your mesh . Looking forward to your PCT journey 👍
Haven't had the problem with tent stakes yet, though occasionally they rattle which can be annoying and I've certainly lost or forgotten one or two over the years
I assume you use the stake pocket on the newest Pa'lante packs (except the Joey) to contain your stakes?
Love your demo. What are in you food bag:.a
I appreciate you mentioning the stuff sacks. I have not been able to lighten up beyond a total of 25 pounds and that is with sharing a shelter. I think it is time to try and ditch the stuff sacks......
Give it a try sometime and see what ya think!
Hi, what an incredible small pack!
How do you handle a wet shelter or ground sheet? Put it between liner and pack? Thanks for your great videos!
I mentioned towards the end of the video, but if my shelter or ground sheet is wet I store them in the outside pocket so they can dry + easy access to take them out and lay them in the sun. Prevents anything else from getting wet, and makes packing up simple
Thanks for your video(s). A question and a comment. Question: I use a very thin down quilt (Aegismax Tiny Windhard) with a 10D nylon covering that has served me very well. It is very light, inexpensive (compared to name brands) and pretty warm. However, its out covering is very delicates so I have been very careful with it (by packing it in a stuff stacks). The question is packing it loosely in the pack might tear the plastic. Will your strategy work using this delicate quilt? How thick and delicate is your quilts? Comment: You loosely also pack your tarp in your back, from my experience i found that if I fold my tarp into a thin rectangle and place it on the very bottom it takes almost no space from the pack. Have you tried this method too, and if so, how does it compare?
Great video
Interested in what you do if your shelter was wet/ damp, I’m assuming you wouldn’t put it in main compartment then. Would you put it in the outside mesh? Or inside but on top of the rolled up dry sack
Thanks Atb Mark
I would strap it to the top of my pack so I could potentially dry it later in the day
palante hire this man already ;)
That would be cool but I'm not sure what roll I'd fit in there!
Cook pot? Will you be using a stove on the PcT?
Would you leave an inflatable pad outside the pack liner? I can’t decide. I kind of don’t want a sweaty and wet and salty sleeping pad. I also carry a closed cell for grip
I have a 55L ULA Circuit, and when I try to pack my REI Magma 15 sleeping bag loose, it takes up 3/4 of the pack! Yet when I use a stuff sack, then add everything else, it feels like a bag of rocks, even though it comes to less than 20 lbs. I feel like I'm barred from going backpacking before I even get started. I've tried other sleeping bags with similar results.
Very similar mentality to myself except I use a hip belt on a frame less pack so I have a few more pockets to fill with my days food. I noticed you put the sleeping pad outside the pack liner. The only time I've done that is when I have my packraft and I need it as a sit pad/floatation device and like the easy access. So I'm curious why do you put your sleeping pad outside the packliner?
What is the comfort weight for a pack like that and how many pounds of food does that include? Thanks
those are some great tips, I do have one question, when you have to carry a bear can, like in the Sierra, do you put it on top of the pack with the strap or do you also keep that inside the pack?
I've done both! When I am on the PCT and in the sierra I'll film a video specifically about that. I think generally I like having the bear can inside my pack, with my gear stuffed around it, but if I have too much food day 1 or so I will pack the can empty on top, with all my food in the pack.
@@JupiterHikes cool beans I'll definitely have to try putting it inside
Always love your how-tos. Simple and understandable! One question is if you find having your food bag and ground cloth in the pack liner ever makes your quilt and clothes dirty or smelly?
I can't say I've noticed!
If u put the tent into the pack w/o the staff sack, how can u keep inside of the pack clean. Would the dust/mud dirty your pack, then dirty the quilt when u stuff it in next time?
I'd be interested in your approach for rain, continual; Atlantic Way, West Ireland, etc. I guess an extra garbage bag to start?
I'd carry more ziplocs so I could still have things accessible but safe. I'd likely carry an umbrella. Might consider a rain skirt. And certainly a larger internal volume shelter of sorts, whether that's still a tarp or a tent just more space underneath
jupiter, my brother in disc golf, what's the weight on the ultra v2? it must weigh less than what's listed on the website w/ the weight per yard on that 200d ultra.
I keep my quilt and down jacket, which aren't the most durable, in a sack when I pack it because I want to reduce abrasions or any damages. Everything else is loose.
Hey, why do you need a ground cloth?
I put my potty bag and trowel in the front pocket. Ziploc does just fine
What do you pack for food!
Your sleeping pad seems so thin, do you even need it? Is it warm enough for the PCT?
Is your lunch packed all inside the pack together with the food bag?
I think I may need it a little bit more accessible.
What do you think?
Love your videos, what size is your backpack?
The pack in this video is 37 liter, though many of my past hikes I've done with a 28L pack I felt for the PCT I could use a bit extra space
Jupiter I have a question which pack is more comfortable to wear all day through hiking the palante Joey or the palante ultralight?
The Joey is my all time favorite of any pack they've ever made. More comfortable for me for sure but also given the extra pockets it's generally more functional as I have more of my gear at hand
Are you from Jupiter FL. Enjoyed your video.
I am! And thank you
How do you pack you shelter/ ground cloth if they are wet??
I mention it towards the end but I pack my shelter either strapped to the top of my pack, or in the large outer mesh pocket if they are wet. That way I can easily access them to try and dry throughout the day. Very seldomly though I'll twist off my pack liner tight, and then pack a wet tarp or wet gear inside my pack on top of that. Keeping the dry gear safe, but still storing the wet gear inside.
I just use a bunch of Subway bags and staple them together for my pack
MY back is sore just thinking about using that as my only sleeping pad!! I need the comfort for my aching bones. lol.
It's definitely not a pad I recommend lol but the gossamergear nightlight pad, or the zlite folding foam ones are really cool. If I used an inflatable I'd go for the neoair
For those of us who do need an inflatable pad... if using the neo air(or pad with a similar valve style), you can use your pack liner to inflate the pad! That way you don't have to blow your wet breath into your pad, and gives another use to the pack liner!
This is all nice, im an ul hiker myself BUT how on earth can you sleep on that thin pad? I mean i could deal with the thinness however the cold coming from the ground i could never..
I usually look for spots to sleep that have natural ground cover, a layer of pineneedles, leaves, grass, soft sand. Not often do I camp in places that are very hard packed
What clothing did u have w u
How will you handle your bear canister going through the Sierra where one is required?
I'll film a video while in the Sierra about that, but I've used bear cans with smaller packs than this in the past without issue!
I tried putting my foam pad inside my pack as a back rest like you do, but when I stop to take a lunch break and take the pad out to use as a sit pad, I find it next to impossible to get the pad back into my backpack without emptying everything back out. Thoughts? Am I doing something wrong? What do you do, just ram it back in there?
I think most people don't take the pad out until they've reached camp for the night. I don't see there being a good way to get it back in your pack without unpacking.
have you ever noticed any damage to your tent or quilt when packing them without stuff sacks? also i really struggled trying to get excess air out when putting my quilt loose in the bottom of my pack liner. maybe i just need more experience with that.
I have not and the tarp I'm using I've actually owned since 2016 which has gone on countless trips with me. In some ways I feel the opposite, by stuffing large items into small stuff sacks, or pulling large items out of small stuff sacks the risk of damaging them seems like it would be higher. Not a science but something I've heard over the years
@@JupiterHikes i see what you mean about potentially doing damage with stuff sacks for sure. ive been worried i'd rip things before trying to shove them too hard. but i just got my first dcf shelter and i'm trying to baby it some. i'll likely try it loose next time though.
I was surprised to see your pad outside of the pack liner. But, I guess it's closed cell and shouldn't absorb too much water. How are you going to haul your bear canister on the PCT where required? Can't wait for those videos. Take care.
Most people carry their closed cell foam pad even at the outside of their pack.There may be some minor absorption of humidity in the foam, but this does not make it feel wet.
@@Henning_Rech Yeah, that's a good point. I'm either a hammock or inflatable pad guy but you're absolutely right now that I think of it. Jupiter is protecting his pad more than most in that regard.
The pad does occasionally get wet because of this. Honestly either way works, inside the liner or out. I do it this way most often simply because it is easier to do, as packing everything in the liner can sometimes mess up the orientation of the pad
Very good video. Very good packing technique. Is there anything you don’t put inside your backpack or outer pockets? For example, I never put my first aid kit, flashlight, , Pocket knife, fixed blade knife, pepper spray, credit card and cash, my house keys, a whistle, cell phone and camera and I don’t remember what else.. What about yourself? Thank you so much for sharing this video. God bless you. I almost forgot to mention, I put all these things in my pants pockets or fishing vest that I always where when I go backpacking to help me carry all this stuff.
Western mountaineerings faq says bags can be stored as long as they are dry and clean. I believe they did some testing on the topic I might be mistaken.
Well I know most backpacking sleeping bag manufactures recommend not storing quilts/bags compressed, but instead loose. A quick google search shows that. However often they talk about that in regards to long term storage, but I am not sure how thru hikes would be too much different. If the quilt is being compressed for half the day in a pack, I would think that is still harmful even if it is just more quickly lessening the life span of the gear. Which I am sure we all want our gear to last as long as possible. I have no science to show obviously! But it is something I've heard a lot over the years and makes sense to me. Compressing the loft over and over, breaking or bending down feathers losing loft, etc. I would think having the quilt as loose as possible at all times would be preferable. Though I'd love to be shown otherwise!
@@JupiterHikes I definitely think your logic is sound and I have heard the same about down. I could see their idea being useful only for a brand new bag with no smell.
I always worry that my liner will get a pinhole in it and my quilt will get soaked. If I know I'm going to have a very rainy trip(East Coast hiking) I put my quilt in a dcf dry bag for some waterproof redundancy. But I use one that is bigger than I need so I don't have to compress or shove the quilt as much. It also allows me to mold the quilt to fit the space in the pack a little better.
Your ground sheet went into the pack liner, but not the pad. No concerns about your foam pad getting wet in a heavy rain?
Sometimes I will put it in the pack liner I just find it's easier to have it outside for no particular reason. Either way works!
The Ultralight backpack is getting smaller and smaller. I'm already waiting when someone packs my backpack into a hunting vest with a lot of pockets :)
When is the big START DATE?
Mid may! Coming up quickly!!
Yes, but where do you put the merfolk tribal deck?!
You know I keep that thang on me. Definitely shorts pocket kinda gear for quick access
@@JupiterHikes Nice! Hahahaha!
You upgraded from the Casio, ha!
In many ways it's a downgrade unfortunately. Same price, same features but bulkier! I miss the casio
What about water filtration? I didn’t see you put anything in the pack for water filtration. Where does that go?
Most recently on the AZT I carried a Sawyer squeeze which just stayed on the outside of my pack with my water bladder. Though I think for the PCT I'm using aquamira instead which I'll have in my shoulder strap pockets
Learnt packing by priority the hard way when I had to pay for a cab to begin the trail with some buddies and my wallet was at the bottom of my pack. Had to take out everything in my pack and repack again before we’d even started the trail. Not a good start to a trip!
haha I hope the cabby wasn't waiting there during?
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Yeah dude, I like it. The trash bag pack liner is clutch; I sometimes use it around the foot of my sleeping bag while sleeping to keep condensation from the tent from soaking the bag.
The only thing I'd do differently is my ground cloth and shelter; there are those days when you're gonna have to pack it wet, so I'd put it on bottom UNDER the pack liner.
I mention it towards the end of the video, but when my shelter is wet I like to strap it to the top of the pack so I can get to it during the day and hopefully dry it! Also the pack liner trick is great in super cold conditions too, like a smaller, second sleeping bag for the lower legs
@@JupiterHikes Nice! Keep it up brother.
How do you pack your tent when it’s wet?
Roll it up and strap it on top of the backpack
I mention it towards the end, but I will strap it to the top of my pack or put it in the outer mesh pocket if it is wet. That way I can easily get to it, and try to dry it during the day if I can! You could also twist off your pack liner tight, and then store wet gear inside your pack, on top of the liner. Keeping dry gear safe, but still storing the wet gear inside.
Is your shelter DCF? If so, are you concerned about stuffing versus folding then rolling to slow deterioration of the fabric integrity? Dude - you have so little extra clothes compared to the average UL hiker! I feel like I need something to contain my extra clothes - midlayer(like your KUIU), syn puffy, extra socks, extra pair of underwear and my merino sleep shirt. I can't sleep in my hiking shirt and no shirt just feels funky by day 3. Are you still pretty much a cold soaker? That 700ml pot was more for demonstration purposes. Hoping to finish my PCT hike this summer and cross paths. Peace
This particular tarp I have had for many many years, and it has been on nearly every trip with me! So it's had a surprisingly long life as it is, and is still kicking. In some ways I do worry about that, but considering I have yet to need to tape it even once I am not sure how much I should worry. Tents take a lot of damage from being on the ground, while tarps don't have much going on floating above me so that could be a major factor here in the life of my shelter. Comparing my Duplex to my tarp, the duplex I haven't even used a quarter as much and yet it looks like crap while the tarp still looks like it did a couple years ago. The duplex has been resewn in places, it has been taped to oblivion. But those were all from ground damage or user error on my part (I poked a hole through it (twice) with a trekking pole)
Sometimes I have more clothes! It is often though the same *number* of clothing items, and just thicker materials. Like I will swap my fleece for a puffy synth jacket, or tights instead of wind pants. Very occasionally I may have more but it would have to be very cold as usually I will go for a warmer quilt over more clothes first.
Jupiter, how are your wind pants holding up? And, looking at you packing your stuff, whatever happened to your owl🦉?
So far so good on the pants, but they have not gone through much use yet. Excited to see how they last over the course of the PCT, and although I don't expect there being any issues with them I can't for sure know until I'm out there! More than a few items I am excited to see perform over the long period of this hike
@@JupiterHikes I'm looking forward to your vids, something to do with your sense of colour and frame. Have a good PCT, don't push yourself too hard!
@@t.vanoosterhout233 Pretty dumb thing to say
@@jhonyermo See vid july 25 2019.
That sleeping pad is the harshest thing I’ve ever seen.
Definitely not a pad I recommend lol but the gossamergear nightlight torso pad, or a folding zlite pad of sorts works in the same way as I am using mine here!
@@JupiterHikes just hassling. So it’s personal preference for everything. Keep up the enthusiasm for minimal backpacking. It’s seriously the best.
Dude called that a sleeping pad😂😂 looks more like a knee pad
how does one wipe their butt with no TP?
For me it started from just forgetting TP. One trip here, one trip there. I got fairly good at finding plants or natural materials to use because of that. Many however will use a backcountry bidet instead of TP which look cool, are super leave no trace, and work better than from what I hear. Toilet paper and trash in the wilderness along trails is becoming a huge huge huge problem so it's not something I want to contribute to. Animals dig it up, and frankly a lot of people don't bury it well. Now-a-days it is recommended that hikers pack out their used TP instead of burying it, which I don't want to do, so plants or a bidet is my answer.
@@JupiterHikes the bidet is the best option for LNT. I get sick when i see those mine fields everywhere or the tree everyone before me leaned against with a pile at the trunk. High fiber in the diet is important as well to keep things cleaner.
Where does your stuffed owl go?
And my bug zapper!!
I didn’t see any olive oil either. Worried about you, bro.
Instead of leaving that negative space in your cookpot, fill it with food. Keeping a fuel can in there, like people often do, rattles obnoxiously and still leaves wasted space
Stove, bandana, fuel can and other small things great for sure!
omg... 1:50 ... thats a sleeping pad?!
so thin.. so tiny...
Is your name Jupiter because you’re from Jupiter Florida?
i carry a way too many things :-)
Naw, you carry what you want! And what you enjoy
I thought the ground cloth was a wedding veil