Porsche 934.5 Spa Classic 2011
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024
- Our Porsche 934.5 at the 2011 Spa Classic race. It had rained prior to the race and we made the decision to start on slicks while everyone else stuck with rain tires apart from one RSR (he won). Our strategy would have worked as the track dried up very quickly and every team had to pit for slicks. Our first driver got aggressive too early, no excuse as we were so much faster. He touched the curb on the inside which is like ice when wet, and that was that. The damage is minimal, and we hope to have it back on the track within 1-2 months.
I can feel that how tough to handle this beast by watch this video…driving in the rain is hard enough, now you add two more turbos to the engine… way to go!
btw i love this video. its amazing how they had these 800-900hp racecars back in the 80s with the tire technology of that time. i cant even imagine what trying to drive one at 10/10ths must have been like
That was my co-driver. We were on slicks while the Yellow driver had rain tires on. Our driver got a little anxious and it cost us the race sadly.
That was high drama. Sorry to see that turn take the car. I saw how much he loved going deep into that turn on the pass. Thanks for the vid. The cars are insane.
Too bad. The violet and the yellow Porsche were attacking/defending very determined in spite of their cars being so much slower on the straights. I feel bad for you and the driver. I understand how frustrating it can be to be stuck behind someone slower that is blocking. I'm off to take a look at your other videos ;-) Thank you for sharing. Awesome sound btw. :-)
You know you're in a serious car when the gear lever leaps upwards when the turbos spool up!
Looks like the driver was doing a great job, right up to the point where he wasn't, and committed the "Eau Rouge Mistake". :P
Actually they did. They were raced as a twin turbo, and they were raced under the classification of 934.5 in this configuration. While it came from the factory as a single turbo, it was raced as a twin turbo, running a twin turbo does not take away from it from being a 934.5. I'm not positive on the chassis number, will have to check with our head mechanic........ former factory engine builder for the 917 etc ;)
A shame for the crash.. Eau Rouge it's a bitch. You where pushing hard on wet.
Any way, amazing how you handle the turbo lag + the slicks on wet, nice race.
There are many if you look. And while you may disagree..... Porsche themselves agree and have supplied us with documentation that the 934.5 was raced as a TT. They put our car in the museum at Spa, as a 934.5. Yes the TT has been surrounded by controversy, and we had to deal with it in historic series. But at the end of the day, Porsche stepped in and classified it as a 934.5, not a 935. And there word is final on the matter.
Raw, pure onboard at it's best! Thanx for sharing this.
Incredible video...Amazing hands because this cars and the track so wet are unbelievable difficult for drive
No it is, they ran the 934.5 as a twin turbo in the US after being a single scroll in Europe ;). For this race we had the boost pretty low and it was around 650hp. The power wasn't the issue, our co-driver got antsy and should have waited for the track to dry. 3 laps later everyone pit for slicks, if he had just driven as planned, we would have run away with the race since we didn't need to pit. Silly mistake, but you're right, that's racing.
Too bad the driver didn't unwind the wheel when going backwards. Might have saved it with minor body damage if at all.
I know, really.
love the sound of the turbo's spooling up. mm
Excellent video.
Shame about the crash but it's all part of the game.
@verdeboyo
Thanks, it was our co driver in this video, the car is a animal. It had rained just prior to the race, but we expected it to dry (it did after 7 laps) and opted for slicks which proved to be a handful. Our driver got impatient though, he should have waited for the track to dry and take the easy win, live and learn eh. For this race we were running around 650bhp, no need to max out the engine.
insane car control
+Dwaine Green this? you have no idea
Also of note. The reason the FIA had a problem with Greggs 934.5 was not because of the TT, but because of the extensive body work and other parts he took from a 935. Had he of kept the body like a normal 934.5, he wouldn't have had any issues.
superb video.I am so glad driver and gorgeous 934 were in one piece after that. Great driving though
the 3 of you out there seem to be very good drivers, the driver of the yellow car seem's to be most excellent, knowing his limitations.
Thank you so much for sharing!
Amazing video!
Greetings from Germany
Great Racing on one of the true circuits in the world. It seems when you finally got by him on the down hill, you carried more speed into that turn then you had all race, which is not uncommon. The car got lite on ya. good stuff.
I can feel the turbines spinning up coming out of a corner, massive turbo lag. :D
Very little lag in the dry. The reason it seems like lag is we were on slicks in the rain and waiting to get on the throttle ;)
Wow, very nice car. It reeled in the competition on the straights very handily. I'm guessing you had slicks mounted?
Incredibly foolish to get out the car after the spin, though. You can see the rest of the field just coming over the crest, hopefully none of them went for a ride.
What a beast to drive.
I want more videos! This one is spectacular!
agreed. and extremely cool and well handled. not bad at all.
The driver's ok, I hope the car didn't suffer too much damage
Once again : Waouw ! (This is the greatest track in the world !!!!! ;-) )
@liquidsk8s im sorry it was the dai yoshihara episode. he starts taking about it 5 mins in and its pretty funny
good save at 3:55 that could have gone nasty
Great ride
Shifting is much more leisurely when you've got that much torque.
@liquidsk8s he mentioned you guys on his car podcast. it was the episode wiith john hennessey
Wtf tough quest on wet with such power on slicks at welded diff..!!
Actually they did not. I own and race one of the first 31 934's built in 1976 as well as one of the ten 934.5 built in 1977. They were all single turbo from the factory. Many were converted by teams to twin turbo after and many were converted to full 935 spec as well.
Do you know the chassis number of this car?
are you the guy who met adam carolla in new york?
awesome video! I'll meet you at some testdays again;)
Fantastic stuff! That car looked like it wanted to teach you a lesson a couple o times, but Im so glad you showed who's boss. Track looked wet in places too. What BHP were you running please?
Also, Gregg's season wasn't nullified. It was only ONE race, at Mosport where the FIA had jurisdiction and it became a ridiculous politics game. IMSA/SCCA/Porsche consider Gregg to have won the season. And being that it was only one race he was DQ'ed from, all the other IMSA races were run and classified as a 934.5 without being DQ'ed.
That moment at 3:49!!!
Please show me the result of a race where a 934.5 with a twin turbo motor was classified as a 934.5 in IMSA and classified in the GTO class. Peter Gregg won the 1977 Trans Am with a "934.5" but when his car was contested for upgrades it was considered a 935 and the title was taken from him and given to Ludwig Heimrath.
Both my cars have been upgraded to TT and are considered 935's though they started life as 934's. I respectfully disagree. That being said it is a wonderful car regardless.
Great driving, car and video. Super.
Measured 2:55 laptimes. Is that correct ? Looks much faster.
Yeah that was me (I'm the son), were you with the crew?
Shouldn't let a bad driver like this guy touch a legendary car like this.
Hah congrats on being a ignorant twat 😂
For one thing, it wasn’t me driving. And the other factor you’re unaware of, we started on slicks in the rain with the sky clearing we were going to stay out when it dried vs pitting like the rest.
Had our driver not gotten too anxious the plan would have worked as the track dried and the rest pit for slicks. Would have been a easy win.
The reason we weren’t as fast on the opening laps is simple. Slicks in the rain on ours while everyone else ran wet tires and had grip.
Espero que não tenha estragado muito.
Que maquina maravilhosa são os Porsches, esse motor parece uma sinfonia.
7:57 D-FENCE! *clap clap* D-FENCE! *clap clap*
1:06 unbelievable advance in power lol
10:42
"no...No,NO,NOOOOOOO!"
With a twin turbo motor its not quite a 934.5 anymore now is it ? :) What chassis number is this car ? Not sure you have 650hp there but in the wet running against RSR's I would have probably dialed it down. Sorry about the shunt.. in happens, then it happens again..racing.
Shame about the car, however the sound of the other Porsche going by was beautiful.
Fucking beautiful car.
I'm not sure if I'm listening to the right podcast, do you know what date it was?
How many Ferrari you past ahh
What is the musik of the video plz ?
ceb turbo Porsche 934.5
It must be very frustrating when you know your car has the power and you have the skills to win but the wheather fucked everything up.
that spooning
I closed my eyes when he started to spin :(
To aggressive in the wet with slicks, carried much to much speed coming out of the sweeper causing the rear to rotate around. What a shame mashing such a beautiful car.
He should've turned the wheel the other way. Could've avoided the wall.
Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
The 934 is the race version of the 911 Turbo. It's just a 911 on steroids haha.
aaaaah man the ending certainly sucks
Porsche 934.5 with a five speed gear box? 934.5 had four speed gear box and only 590hp with a single turbo. Maybe this is a replica, not an original 934.5?
Also, when you loose a car, it's normal to try and catch it by steering into the spin, but as you rotate backwards, start neutralizing the steering wheel. If you had done this you could have steered left and held it off the wall. Instead you kept the wheel hard right the entire way, steering backwards into the wall.
I wasn’t the driver, it was our co driver. Yeah he messed up in multiple ways. Some of the old pros simply lack the situational awareness/feel for the higher power/grip brought with modern upgrades.
934.5 also came with 5 speed. The car was confirmed authentic by Porsche and showcased.
It’s original but with more power thanks to modern improvements in turbos/engine management.
Shame - definitely the fastest car/driver. Rain is always tricky.
super scary at 3:48
What (turbo) bar were you running through it for this race?
6 years later, but... It was running 650 bhp@1 bar
Maby Gear box Fail or span n on the curbs
Kalle Sundqvist curbs + rain. Gearbox was fine, he just got too impatient. Car was running slicks in the rain hoping the track would dry within a few laps (it did) easy win tossed down the drain.
Porche 934-5 its very Fast
10:38, too much right-foot too early. Driving on eggs. My opinion.
Tja - Leistung alleine reicht nicht aus! Man muss auch fahren können!
The industry term for this type of driving is turkey jerky as in hands flying all around like a real imbecile. The way you ride "candy cane lane" as it is commonly referred to in the industry is also an unprofessional move. I've been coaching racing for 50 years and the way you hit the corners so hard is commonly referred to "hard dip, back out sip". I'm unimpressed
50 years of coaching? Of course you have. Funny how your name doesn't appear on any google search relating to driver coaching. "Candy Cane Lane". Do fuck off. Maybe if you spent less time making up phrases that nobody has ever heard of, you might get quick.
James Bourn good :D
Wasnt me driving 😉
The driver was Jurgen Barth with far more experience 😘
@@liquidsk8s Lmao you made my day my comment from 6 yrs ago makes no gd sense