How Nike Lost Messi
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
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00:00 Adidas vs. Nike
01:16 How Nike Signed Messi & Ronaldo
03:53 ...and then lost one
05:16 The 🐐 Debate
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[1] www.wsj.com/articles/how-nike...
[2] www.adweek.com/agencies/nikes...
[3] Messi vs. Ronaldo: One Rivalry, Two GOATs, and the Era That Remade the World's Game (by Jonathan Clegg and Joshua Robinson)
[4] eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/...
[5] www.irishmirror.ie/sport/socc...
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💡 Slight update: at 2:28 we say that there are only three athletes with a lifetime Nike deal, but Kevin Durant became the fourth one earlier this week.
Was just about it to comment this haha
Ronaldo (R9) was the first football player with a lifetime Nike deal.
Isnt Steph the face of underarmour?
@@sidhantraghuvanshi1838 yeah but that isn’t Nike/adidas
The odds
So Nike lost Messi and Steph Curry, crazy how both of them has become the face of Adidas and Under Armour
Really shows how much impact a single athlete can have 🤔
Adidas could of had Michael Jordan
@@Onairuk Wrong it was Converse that could have had Michael Jordan.
@@SuperiorRecapsCorrecting the comment substance and grammar in one hit, touché
@@SuperiorRecaps its both, in the book Driven From Within MJ said he went to adidas too but they didnt see him worthy of a signature line
Thought of Ronaldo and Messi being in the same commercial before worldcup give me chills
It still wouldn’t have happened. Just because they’re signed to the same brand doesn’t mean they’d be doing commercials together. To do that you need both players to agree. At best they’d record separately and then edit them together. But as time has shown one of the two or possibly both do not want to do commercials together. Whether it’s competitiveness or agents interfering, who knows. My guess is Messi doesn’t like Ronaldo for all the shots Ronaldo has taken over the years. I think Messi just stays professional but deep down knows Ronaldo is a fake arrogant person.
@@erko78 So you guess all this?
@@erko78 Never have I seen Ronaldo actually disrespect Messi. Ronaldo says that he is best in the world, and that is a midset to keep him moving. You are simply a person who does not like him. Messi and Ronaldo respect each other. And where did you get the idea that they do not want to do commercials together? They would certainly do it if they were signed with the same brands. Grow up
@@erko78 you are definitely no football fan. I have never in my 13 years of being a football fan ever heard Ronaldo direspeting Messi. He has repect and so as Messi. You are probably a very young fella who is only a social media football fan and does not know a poop bout football. But have a nice day 😊
@@mystrodelin643 He has on several occasions in various interviews, you should use your brain before correcting others.
Crazy how all of Ronaldo's clubs wore Adidas and his national team wore Nike. Then it's the opposite of for Messi, his clubs wore Nike and his country wears Adidas 💀
Manchester United wore Nike when Ronaldo was there the first time. Pretty sure Sporting and Al Nassr didn't wear Adidas either
Messi is going to wear Adidas with Inter Miami
So is it right to say that Messi was one of the best things happened to Adidas
messi and kanye
Yeah in a speaker and louder
That would be an understatement
@@sigfigronathr7 and drake on nike is a better combo
@@easymoneypromotions Never
I'm surprised this channel hasn't blown up yet. Been an avid follower since the beginning and looking forward to see more growth and success coming to you and your team. cheers and keep up the great content brother.
It has 620K subscribers? What do you mean it hasnt blown up yet?
@@rxy8541 620k followers is a lot dont get me wrong and the amount of views they get is crazy which is why it's surprising that they haven't cracked a million subs yet. this channel has been dishing out top notch content for more or less 3 years now. I've seen plenty of channels that have been around the same period and have over a million subscribers at least.
We really appreciate this!
Plenty more growing to do 🙂
Same bro love this page, the voice is so relaxing as well 😂
It will blow when the poor nations that are football crazy can afford to watch RUclips. RUclips (longer videos) is currently or the Internet for that matter is still the reserve for the rich in poor countries. Plus especially English is dominated by American English whereas there's over 2 Billion British L2 speakers over the world waiting to get in. In 20 years time the demographics will shift.
It is amazing that in this world of marketing personalities which has to be a model like Ronaldo or controversial like Maradonna or charismatic like pele or Muhammed Ali a combination of all, someone can still shine through by purely their performance even tho they are an introvert. I think that is Messi's biggest achievement in this world of smoke and mirrors.
Messi totally depend on his performance.. He just play fottballer with his heart.. No other goal.. And everything come automatically
couldnt have said it any better
I’m just grateful for all the insane memories both Messi and Ronaldo gave us over the span of their careers and still continue to give
Messi is the face of football and Adidas made the deal of sports history.
@Mai F. Ali laugh at your mom
face of football, he's a Fraud.
😂
@@streamingera4102 penaldog without world cup hahaha
Unrecognisable in us also 😅😂
Messi and Ronaldo together in Nike would make Adidas non existent
adidas fit wider feet better so i definitely wouldnt say non existent
i dont think so. Messi hasnt been able to carry an adidas boot
Both players played with teams that were sponsored by the other brand. Expect their national teams
@@mountaindew3201 ofc the brands would pay an arm and a leg to have one of club/ country to be under the same sponsor. Country is easier as they dont change nationalities
@@Tsangass and international teams almost never change their sponsors unlike league teams. In the end of the day both brands got to sell many of. It’s players shorts if you think about it.
Adidas will always be known as the brand who signed Greatest player ever.
🤣🤣
Who would that be cause GOATNALDO IS with Nike
@@amda7882 what does goat even mean nowadays....... never reaching world cup finals?
@@CasualGamingEnthusiastit football only addias matter 😂😂 nike have lebron an jordan there revenue off those 2 alone> addias
Imagine losing the best player of all time because you forgot to make a proper contract
also imagine losing the best shooter of all time in the NBA because you forgot to change the name in presentation slide.
@@jianh1989more like forgetting his name during an interview lol
Pelé wore Puma
@@mainsmainPelé isn't greatest he is overrated. Garrincha was better than him.
@@mdzaidshaikh1863 no sir you are totally wrong
Man... this channel just keeps getting better and better
Thank you! 🙌
Messi probably carried Adidas through this whole 15 years by himself, of course a lot of famous footballers also use or have used Adidas, but having Messi always gave Adidas an edge against Nike
Kanye helped a LOT on the high end but he got the vaccine and lost his mind. Nike is still number 1 globally in sporting apparel, equipment and pretty much everything but futbol cleats. Nike’s margins are ridiculous.
No
Messi didn't do much for Addidas
Addidas didn't go for great players
They went for great teams like man United ,Real Madrid
Thts the point which people r forgetting
Can you make a video about EA Sports and why their next game will have the name EA Sports FC 24 and why they lost the licences for FIFA??
Glad you're back. Hadn't seen you for awhile.
Took a little break to recharge 🔋
@@AthleticInterest Understood. You're always putting out great content. The mashup of sports/business/culture always interest. Something I haven't seen that maybe you can do that seems interesting is (I'm American) the difference in contract structures between American sports and the rest of the world (obviously primarily football (soccer) ). European leagues can spend untethered whereas in different U.S. leagues' they're put on a salary cap. Why? Anyway, take care and Cheers!! 🍺🎮🎧
Huge supporter of your videos and businesswise sports stories with numbers and money. Love your graphic work and narrating style. Just keep going and post more often 🙏❤
Have been a follower of this channel from the beginning.Great to see you guys grow ❤
Thanks for being with us! 😀
This reminds me of how Nike lost Curry, similiar situation as well
Great video as always. I just wonder if your production was done to early, or if you just snubbed Kevin Durant in naming him as one of the few people to have a Lifetime Nike Deal ;)
We already had the video finished and uploaded when the news broke 😅
@@AthleticInterest could you please do a video about image rights comparison in American sports with European sports
1:50 One bizarre thing about this advert, which you would never see these days, is that players were wearing their club and national strips, regardless of whether they were Nike branded - Ronaldo is in the Umbro Brazil kit for instance.
I can not believe that this content is free! Keep it up.
Thank you! 😄
Hey Athletic Interest , I've been watching your videos from beginning. Would love to see detailed documentaries related to sports.
4:34
This is exactly what happened with Oscar Piastri and Alpine in F1 during 2022
Messi player with teams sponsored by Nike meanwhile Ronaldo being under Nike, played for teams under Adidas. In the end, both Adidas and Nike were able to sell both players shirts.
U r smart just like me
U know the game
In a weird way, I am glad it didn't work out. It is always nice to see balance.
Wish Adidas got Haaland to continue this battle to the next generation.
He’s signed with nike
@@YouBasket Yeah, I’m aware.
Most of footballers nowdays wages are waaay higher mostly thanks to Messi and Ronaldo, they all think they are them but in reality they aren't, so i don't know in wich point would be worth it to give these modern stars more money than Messi and Ronaldo ever asked for
They got Bellingham
Your videos are getting better and better i am happy to be following you since 100k followers !
messi vs marketability case study would be a good one to read especially with how rapidly all the industries changed
None of these are correct, I am Argentine and I remember clearly that when Messi decided to go for Adidas it was because Nike is involved in a lot of shady stuff and Messi didn't want to be associated with that, eventhough Nike offered him more money than Adidas.
This was talked about by people in Messi's personal circle, and it came out in the media here in Argentina.
What shady stuff means?
source? "trust me bro"
@@ahmadmaulanai8164 slavery
we need source
you're showing yourself as Argentine towards this topic is irrelevant
2:15 i'll be very glad if i never se Barça's minimalist logo
Hey buddy, thanks for another great video ❤..
Very insightful and interesting topic!
Thank you! We’re glad you enjoyed it 😀
your channel has imrpvoed so much over the years :D excited to see you on netflix
Brilliant video, you definitely deserve to blow up! Keep up the good work!
We'll wait for the Boom! 😉 💥
The irony is though that when I think of or have watched Messi, its in a Barca or PSG shirt (Nike) and with Ronaldo in Madrid or Juve, its in Adidas...
Nice video Athletic Interest.
I'm surprised this channel doesn't have 5 mill subs excellent video and commentary throughout
That is a nice target to aim for! 📈
@@AthleticInterest go for it we with u all the way
Adidas debería hacer una película como la que hizo Amazon con Nike. En esta última cuentan cómo consiguieron a Michael Jordan. Adidas debería contar la proeza de haberle ganado a Messi.
glad to hear that voice again, keep it up
As usual impeccably engaging and brilliantly made video!
Really glad you enjoyed it! 🙂
It's interesting but Messi definitely doesn't try too hard with brand. I wonder how much more commercially successful he could've been if he'd... well cared. Not that I can blame him for just wanting to play football.
Messi is a no-nonsense person. He doesn't have that celeb fanfare. He's just so chill and loves to play football. That's what I love about him. No cockiness as well that you see in most athletes.
Messi doesn't care about all that hollywood diva stuff, he just plays football, and i woulnd't be surprised if the real reason why he left Nike is because he liked Adidas boots better, he allows himself to actually like stuff and not think about money all the time
Great content
I love this channel it gives me more knowledge about sports men and specially footballers and he makes the video enetrtraining
Thanks for the video.
Thank you for watching!
Great Video!
Ah, finally, its been weeks since ive last heard anything about what this glamorous nike brand is doing, and why its so mega awesome amazeballs.
Cant wait till the next video guys.
Wondering how much nike is paying them for all the advertising they do for them
Awesome content.. Hooked😊
Great as always! Assuming it was done before Haaland announced his partnership with Nike
Ur channel is top notch quality 👌
There is no debate. Messi is the GOAT!
Great post! At least the Goat debate is over. :)
Messi is better, both as a person and as a player. This makes me more inclined to buy his shoes.
Nike is not visionary when it comes to individual sports. They are still walking & running shoe company. In fact they are best at it. But sports like football etc. adidas leads and leads by a HUGE margin. In fact just imagine, even though India has not been so much into international level football despite the craze, Adidas has already started investing in Indian football by selling the best football shoes and AG shoes for kids as well adults. They have also started signing up some players here. Nike on the other hand doesn’t even sell any football shoes in the whole of India. That shows the difference in vision and commitment to sports.
Because its a waste nike knowns india is poor an football is poor man sport thats why nike care more about basketball
Nike and fumbling the bag with generational talents seems to be par for the course.
Mbappe and Halland
All of the above and also in Argentina, specially in the national team Adidas has a very strong presence
I can only imagine the colorways they would have given messi. Plus he liked tiempo Legends, so they definitely would have made that into a speed boot for him. I mean I understand that now with Adidas he's financially stable, but the colorways and silhouettes that Nike would have released for him would have been. Nike just has a better taste of style to be honest
debate settled on 18.12.22 🐐 🏆
amazing as always
Very grateful as always 😉
Debate settled
Adidas chose wisely. I'd love to know how much of their revenue in the past 2 years was from selling Argentina shirts with Messi's name, first for the Copa America and then for the World cup, with 2 stars before and 3 stars after!
It's fitting, Messi with Adidas is classic while Ronaldo fits more with Nike's marketing. I'm and Adidas fan myself.
haaland signed with nike. I hope to see him diversify his capabilities on the pitch to beyond just scoring simple goals however I believe mbappe is still the most valuable potential free agent player on the market.
Adorei o vídeo
Do one about vini Jr and nike
Can you make an video about the danish superliga?
it's interesting how sports brands can change in popularity so much. Umbro used to be a clear third behind nike and adidas in the 2000s. Now they're barely top 10 and brands like puma, under armour, and even mizuno and new balance are more widely used in football.
Amazing video
Very kind! Thanks Eaglet!
Nike's worth is skyhigh already, but imagine they had the Messi, Curry and Yeezy brands under their belt too...
"introvert vs extrovert" love that line
Messiah of football makes everything valuable.
I'm an avid follower of athletic interest sincd day one. I even recommend people to watch this channel... however of late i feel they are missing a touch they had when they started cant really point it out
Hey Athletic Interest
There's almost nothing a huge amount of money can buy, specially with a 18 year player. Nike cheaped out and lost Messi.
Could you make a video about why nearly Evers Sportsbrand has a running App Like Adidas Running or Asics runkeeper?
People can't see the problem that a brand can't have 2 poster boys.
Being on different brands ensured better pay for both and more exposure
El doblaje en español es Perfecto!! 💯
no way, the host sounds exactly like reggie from the umbrella academy!
I really want to give really great football content and edit really good like you guys just impressive😍🔥
Another great video! Thanks!
You’re very welcome 🙂
0:59 why did you edit the Monumental to be behind Hainer. I won’t complain tho, it’s my team’s stadium
Adorei o vídeo.
Addidas came with the Term GOAT for Messi commercial
Imagine loosing the GOAT over some shirtware 😂😅😂
@Mai F. Ali oh sorry
Let your tears bring some rain in saudi where your camel is playing kid
@Mai F. Ali damn ur English is almost as bad as Ronaldo in the Kebab league
Little kid from Rasario Saved Adidas and keep the whole structure of the Market in Balance
Wow
That defines Greatness
what is the ending music in this video?
Can you make a video on cricket League IPL as it's is growing very fast.
hey athletic intrest can you pleasee pleasee give the 1:13 image plus man what banger edit you make and still you have subscribers less than 1 million.
This is one of the best channels I came across so far, it is so informative and interesting to watch!😯 By the way, I have a video on a similar topic on my channel so I now how much effort it takes to make high-quality content.
Now he sells kits for both.
CR extrovert. That's why he danced for Shopee.
Essa partida será dura
A big thing I think is that Nike always tries to get athletes with the most 'charisma'. Sure Messi is arguably the greatest player ever but he doesn't have the same lifelong 'billboard image' star quality like a Ronaldo, MJ, Federer, Tiger, LeBron etc. And given Nike is a US company, that stuff matters a lot, no matter how good you are at you're sport
messi single handly prevent Nike dominating the football market what are you talking about even if ronaldo got more of that celebrity quality cause he speak some english that doesn't mean his better than Messi
@@zedrhyx1788 he’s not saying Ronaldo’s better than Messi, he’s just saying that Ronaldo has a more “Hollywood Aura” around him than messi which makes him much more marketable
@@zedrhyx1788 Think you completely misunderstood my comment 😅 think we've uncovered a messi fanboy here.
Ronaldo might have the hollywood era, Messi has that godly era in him. He's legacy is like Michael Jackson, Mohammad Ali, Bruce Lee, Beatles.. He's immortal, None cones close. ✨
GOAT。。。。。。Messi nuf said
And the fun fact :- in clubs they both eact others brand for so long messi wear nike in barcelona kit and ronaldo wear adidas in real madrid, juventus and manchester united kit.
Me gustaría más de estos videos en español
This is the football equivalent of Adidas and Converse missing out on Michael Jordan.
Not nearly the equivalent boy jordan way more revenue
KD just became a Nike lifetime athlete too
Can someone explain why footballers don’t have signature cleats? Not like coloreays but full blown signature shoes like Lebron or Jordan?
Like would an Adidas Messi pro or Nike Zoom CR7 just not sell or something?
Interesting question! The difference between football and other sports such as basketball involve different vantage points as a fan. In football, you support the club and then the players who play for that club. That also means that there are greater rivalries, so it's unlikely that fans would buy a signature shoe of the rival club's best player.
That's why most brands go for silos based around playing styles instead of signature cleats. So you have different categories, for example the cleats of fast attackers, creative midfielders or tough fullbacks. And those categories usually have one superstar promoting it, like CR7 and the Nike Mercurial.
But you make a good point because in recent years it's shifting more and more towards a superstar economy, where players seem to become more important for fans than clubs. So it'd be interesting to see what would happen if Nike or Adidas actually launched a signature shoe based on one player. I don't think they will do it though because it means giving away a lot of independence and business is going well as it is right now.
@@AthleticInterest Interesting thanks for the reply! As a advertising person and big sports fan this channel gives great insight!
do you think there is potential competitor for nike and adidas ?
Puma, maybe? Neymar (which isn't as relevant now, but still is one of the world's top players) has been with Puma for a while after his fallout with Nike, which was his sponsor for a pretty long time too. Haaland has been experimenting different brands and he's with Puma too.
Background Sound from 2:28 ?
No debate . Nike got the second best option and adidas the GOAT. There’s is only goat , no two as cr2 fans want you to belief