Man, those blanks sound so good. I really really love how the tone is slightly different on each hit. I will now be searching for these types of cymbals for my kit.
I'm suspecting the Gong Sheet is the most likely to be useful in an everyday setting. They all sound pretty good ,but I think that's in part due to your fantastic mixing. Also, this reminds me that I need to bust out my Acrolite!
You do too good a job of putting the sound in a good context. Literally all these clips sound interesting and amazing. If I heard these cymbals in these recordings without know the butt of the joke I would be killing myself to find out what they were.
Aside from the usual reasons, one more understandable reason might be that it does create something of a logistical headache for Zildjian to ship these around given each cymbal is a different size, shape and weight, so there may be some special circumstances around shipping that require the outrageous price in order to make them even remotely viable for the company.
@@rdavidr I still have my 20” Z Light Power Ride I bought brand new when I was a kid. $120 for a brand new cymbal in 1992. We’re lucky if we find a USED one for that price these days. That was my first ride cymbal not counting the A 18” Crash Ride and A 18” Medium Ride which I used as crashes. No one told me anything about cymbals. I had to figure it out on my own.
I used to subscribe to this channel for the wacky drum and cymbal mods and tinkering, but in my 7-ish years of following your groove has gotten so damn good. It's like night and day from your earlier videos! Nice video as always but just wanted to put this out there :) Cheers from malta/sweden
This whole selection feels like it would fit in well in a sort of grungy sci-fi or cyberpunk settings soundtrack. Either in-universe, or backing tracks. Both would work.
Hey, your fills are amazing, your playing is incredible and your music selection to drum to is perfect. Keep doing what you’re doing, love the vids. Thank you
David, those cymbals have really flat profiles so you have to tilt them significantly more than you're accustomed. That's why the first one has so many cracks.
@@rdavidr check out Tim from Reverie Drum Co !!! He could help you!!!!! Amazing talent and GREAT drums and cymbals that he makes!!! Out of North Carolina.
Imo these were some of the best drum sounds I've heard you get. First off the kit sounded fantastic. Secondly, I thought that Bosphorus blank was great! Personally, I found it _incredibly_ musical. I can understand it might not work in alot of live situations but for studio work I thought it sounded fantastic. Second behind that was the first FX crash you played, the one you cut down. Killer sounds.
Um, that second track, with your snare tone and that cymbal were heavenly. This is def my fav vid by you. All of it is amazing, but yeah that second track with your selection is just *chefs kiss.
I'm loving that random ride thing at the 4 min mark. that thing sounds super cool. they all do, but it really has a vibe. like there is a tiny bit of variation in each hit. super . and your beats are nice bro. I'm curious about the mics and mixing end. it's almost like there is some ducking or side chain of the featured cymbal. the engineer is fucking tops. great production bro. love it.
Not really cymbals, but several years ago (back in the 90s I think), I saw a drum corps whose pit section had circular saw blades mounted on cymbal stands. They made really cool ping sounds.
Say Dave, I found your channel terribly entertaining with the stuff you come up with. Drumeo and such has good material, but yours is just so much crazy fun. Keep up the good work. I’m also glad your have your shop set up so I don’t have to follow the same strain of madness! “ Madness? You call the madness? THIS IS rDavidr.”
I just found your channel, and had it on auto play while coding. Really like your videos, It's all on point and entertaining at the same time. Keep it up!
I really like the gong sheet because it's big and loud. In my collection I have a cymbal that sounds like a really trashy china , it's really light and when you hit it you can actually see it warping around to make it sound. It's pretty cool for $10.
@@MaydupNem A guy on kijiji that hoards drum stuff. He mentioned something about it being an unbranded from someone in Canada. It's been 10 years so that's all I can recall
This is amazing. I did a similar thing about 3 years ago with some fucked up cymbals from the legendary Rupps drums here in Denver. I lucked out and scored a 16" Sabian crash with a small crack. I fixed it, added some patina and made it into an ozone crash. It's literally the best sounding crash I have ever had.
wow wow wow love the dead sounds for the jazzier music. these are what I’ve been looking for! lol. man. cool to hear you in this style/sorts of compositions too-feels like new territory for you, musically
That gong sheet is the “deafen the bassist/guitarist” cymbal. I don’t think I’d want to stand next to that even with earplugs, no matter how awesome it sounds!
Very interesting, I’m psycho when it comes to collecting instruments including drums and cymbals. First video I’ve seen if yours but it got me to subscribe. Well done.
Literally looks like my setup LOL. I have a mismatched set of 16” cymbals for hats, 24” unlathed constantople, a 22” apollo for a crash, and an 20” homeade trash stack. Sounds great and you can tell i LOVE big cymbals 😅
when I first discovered the Zildjian fx raw crash I thought it would sound dry and short but after hearing it with music it sounds great and I see myself buying one in the near future!
Just found your channel ...man of talents on drums, and the deep repair ...wonderful ...as a drummer , done stuff ..but I listen to you ,,,only ....great ..
The only "weird" cymbal I have is a 22" Crash of Doom. Not technically weird, I know, but it's the only cymbal I own that's not a standard crash, ride, or hi hat pair lol. I also won a contest with Zildjian a few years ago and had them make a 22" A Custom crash with a K light bell. Outside of those two, my cymbals are pretty straightforward
These are basically cymbals that have not been put through one or more typical processes. It looks like one is belled but not cut or lathed and is barely flattened, one is cut and flat but not belled or lathed, and one is basically a belled blank. I’m not even getting into the square; just bell a piece of sheet metal. Cool video! Thanks for posting
In *Austria* , in the European Alps, we love to use pot lids for Alpen Jazz and tin lids for Steep Wall Farmers Pop! Some musicians try to harden cow skins, but this only sounds acceptable with march music. Greetings from Austria!
For me it was my dads first noname misstreated 18 crash that i used for various cymbalstacks, still use it every now and again. A moment though to highlight how good you're playing the more punky stuff!
Looking like some serious muscle effort is needed to get that first Zildjian crash to open up. Also, really digging the effect though. Side note really vibing the trip hop break beat @330. Definitely some Massive Attack vibes Fine taste 👌
I could see the uses for recording/certain types of music if you’re micd. That Bosphorus sounds killer. It also seems like the Zildjian blanks are marketing garbage if they crack that quickly from regular playing. Seems like the Meinl Sand series is still an actual crafted cymbal that is just super dry. Also very specific uses.
You (and your audio engineers if you have any) are such geniuses that you managed to create a unique and satisfying sound with every cymbal shown here.
I absolutely love that Bosphorus! That thing has a soul and it is the mate to mine. If for whatever reason you ever get rid of that thing, please keep me in mind. I honestly need it.
This is what drumming is about! I love the experimentation! With my last set I started with literal trash cymbals I got for free and slowly worked into some 18" hi hats. Also thank you for a lathing reccomendation! I have a couple 20" wuhan made rides that need a shave haha
Man i really like that flat one. It sounds so crisp to me but also has the unstable feeling you can hear the trash sorta creeping though. And i just like how it sounds when you bash on it
The kick drum was pumping the compressor a lot and the hihats would be squashed way down and then pop out for a beat and then be squashed again. It didn't stick out so much with the cymbals, but it would have coloured the mix. If you aren't using a compressor then something is adding it automatically.
You ever seen a Clocktagon? Sabian made a clock out of a cymbal, that's an octagon. It used to be on my wall, but i started using it as a bottom Hat and its absolutely dope. They're rare, but i wanna find more just in case it breaks.
Idk if anybody here listens to Chon but on the last song called “Wave Bounce” on their album “Homey” the zildjian gong sheet is used as the ride cymbal at the end and it sounds so tight.
Whats the weirdest cymbal you've ever played?
A stack of pot lids
A cut down hi hat top as a crash
i found this one that looked like a cross at my local shop years ago and it sounded like a trash can lid
A Bottom and Top hi-hat as cymbals, and two cymbals as hi-hats, *all ZBT*
I played without cymbal lol, to weird? 😂
this setup sounds great tbh. a solid reminder for everyone to get creative with their sound on records.
With a setup like this, nobody can copy your sound
Much yes!
Get creative = somehow stumble onto 1000’s of dollars for new gear
All these funky tracks I wanna make lyrics to. Sick playing man
Do you know what music it is between 0:00 - 0:05
If atmospheric jazz was my thing I’d buy these in a heartbeat
Blank ones would sound very very good in metal
Man, those blanks sound so good. I really really love how the tone is slightly different on each hit. I will now be searching for these types of cymbals for my kit.
My thoughts exactly
You'd have to smash them to hear them
They do not sound good
@@CyrilViXP Subjective!
@@flump0 totally
I'm suspecting the Gong Sheet is the most likely to be useful in an everyday setting. They all sound pretty good ,but I think that's in part due to your fantastic mixing.
Also, this reminds me that I need to bust out my Acrolite!
You do too good a job of putting the sound in a good context. Literally all these clips sound interesting and amazing.
If I heard these cymbals in these recordings without know the butt of the joke I would be killing myself to find out what they were.
I can’t understand why the zildjian raw crashes are so expensive.
It’s an unfinished blank with a logo stamped on it
Cause it says zildjian on it.
Because there are people who don't spit to their faces 🤣
Aside from the usual reasons, one more understandable reason might be that it does create something of a logistical headache for Zildjian to ship these around given each cymbal is a different size, shape and weight, so there may be some special circumstances around shipping that require the outrageous price in order to make them even remotely viable for the company.
Same here AND in this video I found these were the ones that sounded the worst
Maybe because of uniqueness. Like every single turd is somehow unique
All of those blanks are in an annealed (soft) state, meaning they haven't been work hardened (hammered) and "shaped". That's why they crack so easily.
What he said^^^^
Always great videos from you. I had an 18" Zildjian Z Power Smash that was neither powerful or smasherful.
😂 I used to have a big 22" Z Custom china with the same star hammering on it. That thing was insane! idk why I ever sold it...
Upvoted for the lol.
@@rdavidr I still have my 20” Z Light Power Ride I bought brand new when I was a kid. $120 for a brand new cymbal in 1992. We’re lucky if we find a USED one for that price these days. That was my first ride cymbal not counting the A 18” Crash Ride and A 18” Medium Ride which I used as crashes. No one told me anything about cymbals. I had to figure it out on my own.
I used to subscribe to this channel for the wacky drum and cymbal mods and tinkering, but in my 7-ish years of following your groove has gotten so damn good. It's like night and day from your earlier videos! Nice video as always but just wanted to put this out there :)
Cheers from malta/sweden
I can’t even lie this kit might be one of the best sounding drum kits I’ve ever heard
Nah
@@cellokid5104 thought-provoking response
agreed
@@cellokid5104 he said one of the best, not the best
I completely agree!! This dude’s snare sounds SO NICE
This whole selection feels like it would fit in well in a sort of grungy sci-fi or cyberpunk settings soundtrack. Either in-universe, or backing tracks. Both would work.
Hey, your fills are amazing, your playing is incredible and your music selection to drum to is perfect. Keep doing what you’re doing, love the vids. Thank you
Man i love the sound of that 22" Bosphorus Flat Cymbal blank. wow
David, those cymbals have really flat profiles so you have to tilt them significantly more than you're accustomed. That's why the first one has so many cracks.
Are you serious? Wow, I thought it was just for ergonomics.
You know what would be cool, David? If you try to "finish" this Bosphorus flat raw ride by creating a bell, hammering, etc..
That was a thought... I would def need the guidance of someone who knows that they're doing 😂
@@rdavidr Being a long term subscriber of your channel I'm sure that you have the needed knowledge for this without a doubt!
@@rdavidr Lance Campeau?
@@rdavidr check out Tim from Reverie Drum Co !!! He could help you!!!!! Amazing talent and GREAT drums and cymbals that he makes!!! Out of North Carolina.
I love them all!
Quiet cymbals is exactly what the world needs more of.
not on the topic of cymbals, but that kick is mic'ed and mixed perfectly.
You have such a captivating way of presenting your topic. You are too much fun. Thank you for sharing.
Imo these were some of the best drum sounds I've heard you get. First off the kit sounded fantastic. Secondly, I thought that Bosphorus blank was great! Personally, I found it _incredibly_ musical. I can understand it might not work in alot of live situations but for studio work I thought it sounded fantastic. Second behind that was the first FX crash you played, the one you cut down. Killer sounds.
You are so great at playing to the music David, some of the best grooves and textures I’ve ever heard
A square cymbal is probably the most cursed thing I’ve ever seen in my 3 years of drumming.
Seriously I saw that and was like wtffff
100% agreed
Never seen anything worse in my 3 years of drumming
I seriously love the mix on the kit and its tuning, and the overall mixing for this video - it is just so damned good, specially that kick - how ???
Um, that second track, with your snare tone and that cymbal were heavenly. This is def my fav vid by you. All of it is amazing, but yeah that second track with your selection is just *chefs kiss.
Your videos are always awesome. They make me want to pick up the sticks and play again. Thanks for your awesome content!!!
This guy plays with such musicality and creativity honestly anything he hits sounds good 😂
Honestly I love the flat bosphorus as it is, sweet crash and awesome stick définition. And if it is low volume, awesome for acoustic set
I love that blank cymbal it just sounds perfect for that dry lowfy sound.
0:08 That kit sounds amazing! I love that snare :)
I'm loving that random ride thing at the 4 min mark. that thing sounds super cool. they all do, but it really has a vibe. like there is a tiny bit of variation in each hit. super . and your beats are nice bro. I'm curious about the mics and mixing end. it's almost like there is some ducking or side chain of the featured cymbal. the engineer is fucking tops. great production bro. love it.
my favorite is the one without a name, it sounds so cool, i love it so much
Not really cymbals, but several years ago (back in the 90s I think), I saw a drum corps whose pit section had circular saw blades mounted on cymbal stands. They made really cool ping sounds.
Only someone like RDAVIDR could play on a whole set of these funky cymbals and make it sound this good.
Say Dave, I found your channel terribly entertaining with the stuff you come up with. Drumeo and such has good material, but yours is just so much crazy fun. Keep up the good work. I’m also glad your have your shop set up so I don’t have to follow the same strain of madness! “ Madness? You call the madness? THIS IS rDavidr.”
I just found your channel, and had it on auto play while coding. Really like your videos, It's all on point and entertaining at the same time. Keep it up!
dude you HAVE to sample this kit! its so raw and crisp, i frickin love it
I really like the gong sheet because it's big and loud. In my collection I have a cymbal that sounds like a really trashy china , it's really light and when you hit it you can actually see it warping around to make it sound. It's pretty cool for $10.
Where'd you get it?
@@MaydupNem A guy on kijiji that hoards drum stuff. He mentioned something about it being an unbranded from someone in Canada. It's been 10 years so that's all I can recall
This is amazing. I did a similar thing about 3 years ago with some fucked up cymbals from the legendary Rupps drums here in Denver. I lucked out and scored a 16" Sabian crash with a small crack. I fixed it, added some patina and made it into an ozone crash. It's literally the best sounding crash I have ever had.
“Imagine walking into a gig with this setup”
*Green Day’s Longview Music Video*
wow wow wow
love the dead sounds for the jazzier music. these are what I’ve been looking for! lol. man. cool to hear you in this style/sorts of compositions too-feels like new territory for you, musically
That gong sheet is the “deafen the bassist/guitarist” cymbal. I don’t think I’d want to stand next to that even with earplugs, no matter how awesome it sounds!
What!?!
Very interesting, I’m psycho when it comes to collecting instruments including drums and cymbals. First video I’ve seen if yours but it got me to subscribe. Well done.
Wow, beautiful Cymbals. Much better looking than the Zildjian Custom A's. For my next wedding gig, these Cymbals & the Kent Drums. Love this channel 😀
I really love the sound of your kit, especially the snare!
Honestly, they all sound great in the context you played them in.
Literally looks like my setup LOL. I have a mismatched set of 16” cymbals for hats, 24” unlathed constantople, a 22” apollo for a crash, and an 20” homeade trash stack. Sounds great and you can tell i LOVE big cymbals 😅
Wow that Bosphorus was crazy! Plus the song you decided to do with it was awesome.
yes! i was so bored and then i got this youtube notification! thank you and god bless
1. Bosphorus flat ride 2. Gong sheet 3. Hi Hats. Amazing Mixing and Editing.
Man. Beautiful sounds from all of these. Well done
when I first discovered the Zildjian fx raw crash I thought it would sound dry and short but after hearing it with music it sounds great and I see myself buying one in the near future!
Just found your channel ...man of talents on drums, and the deep repair ...wonderful ...as a drummer , done stuff ..but I listen to you ,,,only ....great ..
yes and especially oh my god to the square (diamond) shaped one, but what stands out to me is how the regular ol' round hats sound so good
At 1:34 ish.... what is the backing track?
I thought this was gonna be about cymbals from those obscure custom shops on reverb
I might have to poke around and see what I can find!
The only "weird" cymbal I have is a 22" Crash of Doom. Not technically weird, I know, but it's the only cymbal I own that's not a standard crash, ride, or hi hat pair lol. I also won a contest with Zildjian a few years ago and had them make a 22" A Custom crash with a K light bell. Outside of those two, my cymbals are pretty straightforward
Good watch. You always keep it fresh. I dig it.
Honestly really like a lot of these. Super unique sounds and the idea of a china mixed with a crash sound wise is something I would rail on.
Turning these into more fun usable cymbals (the blanks specifically) would be sick!
Dude. the mix on your drums sound incredible in this video.
love those sounds man
These are basically cymbals that have not been put through one or more typical processes. It looks like one is belled but not cut or lathed and is barely flattened, one is cut and flat but not belled or lathed, and one is basically a belled blank.
I’m not even getting into the square; just bell a piece of sheet metal.
Cool video! Thanks for posting
The random blank was the worst, but that tasty little fill at 3:43 was the best.
That Bosphorus sounds amazing. Might need to have the gain turned up on the mic, but I loved the sound.
YEAH, this is why I love this channel, I have seen many bands with this kinda crazy cymbal setup, I live in goddamn seattle
Your kick and snare sounds are incredible!
3rd track is amazing, the horns mixed with the drum fills and cymbal
In *Austria* , in the European Alps, we love to use pot lids for Alpen Jazz and tin lids for Steep Wall Farmers Pop! Some musicians try to harden cow skins, but this only sounds acceptable with march music. Greetings from Austria!
Holy fuck your playing really shows the potential in all of these, great video!
These are the only cymbals I want to see drummers with on gigs
Flat Bos, and the 16” hats for me! Nice grooves man!
For me it was my dads first noname misstreated 18 crash that i used for various cymbalstacks, still use it every now and again.
A moment though to highlight how good you're playing the more punky stuff!
Looking like some serious muscle effort is needed to get that first Zildjian crash to open up. Also, really digging the effect though. Side note really vibing the trip hop break beat @330. Definitely some Massive Attack vibes
Fine taste 👌
Dude! Did you make the loops/songs that you're playing and showcasing the cymbals to? They're amazing! :D
That gong sheet sounds amazing... never had seen one let alone hear one... great playing as always
I could see the uses for recording/certain types of music if you’re micd. That Bosphorus sounds killer. It also seems like the Zildjian blanks are marketing garbage if they crack that quickly from regular playing. Seems like the Meinl Sand series is still an actual crafted cymbal that is just super dry. Also very specific uses.
Honestly that flat blank is one of the best sounding rides to me. I always loved a realy dry ride sound.
You (and your audio engineers if you have any) are such geniuses that you managed to create a unique and satisfying sound with every cymbal shown here.
They all sounded really great! That gong sheet was a little crazy (camera audio lol) but the bell sounded really good
I'm really loving the sound of that Raw Crash tbh
That first cymbal blank sounds awesome!!!
YES this setup sounds really cool for hip-hop, DNB, Jungle, etc.
My favorite was the bosphorous or however you spell it. Loved the decay and the ping!
I absolutely love that Bosphorus! That thing has a soul and it is the mate to mine. If for whatever reason you ever get rid of that thing, please keep me in mind. I honestly need it.
The Zildjian small bell raw crash sounds like a crowd screaming in a way, kinda cool in my opinion
3:43 slickness
I love your vids man! Always interesting 👍🏻🤘🏼
The random cymbal blank literally sounding like the best ride ever.
Love the sound of all of these!…… except the gong crash
This is what drumming is about! I love the experimentation! With my last set I started with literal trash cymbals I got for free and slowly worked into some 18" hi hats. Also thank you for a lathing reccomendation! I have a couple 20" wuhan made rides that need a shave haha
Man i really like that flat one. It sounds so crisp to me but also has the unstable feeling you can hear the trash sorta creeping though. And i just like how it sounds when you bash on it
The reason the Zildjian Gong Sheet didn't have a hole is because... it's a gong.
oh geez, I would not want to accidently get poked by any of those corners of that Zildjian square gong blank. Sounds pretty cool though.
The kick drum was pumping the compressor a lot and the hihats would be squashed way down and then pop out for a beat and then be squashed again. It didn't stick out so much with the cymbals, but it would have coloured the mix. If you aren't using a compressor then something is adding it automatically.
I love the sound of the gong sheet!
You sir have the best play-along music. 😁
I love the Zildjian gong sheet the best ! 🥁🥁🥁
I was the first person to get Zildjian to put holes in the gong sheet…. Now look, I guess that’s a form of flattery. 😂
You ever seen a Clocktagon? Sabian made a clock out of a cymbal, that's an octagon. It used to be on my wall, but i started using it as a bottom Hat and its absolutely dope. They're rare, but i wanna find more just in case it breaks.
Idk if anybody here listens to Chon but on the last song called “Wave Bounce” on their album “Homey” the zildjian gong sheet is used as the ride cymbal at the end and it sounds so tight.