MPC Key 37 has an EXCLUSIVE feature...
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2024
- So there's a feature that's EXCLUSIVE to the Key 37. It's not in any other modern MPC. I discuss it's uses and whether or not it'd help you in your productions.
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Ever since I received my MPC Key 37, there is always something new to learn, and/ or surprise. I'm thoroughly convinced that it was an excellent investment. In fact, I'm convinced that it's BAD ASS.
Another awesome video Bro!
Thank you!
I been making nothing but heat since I got it..
@@RicoN.glacius let's go!!!
I’m gonna get this to work with my iPad. Best of both worlds. Mpc in standalone and controller in usb mode. Perfect.
I’ve been doing this with Maschine plus for a while. Use it as midi controller hardware, use scales, chords, arpeggios, note repeat etc. You have to make a template with midi channels in software if you want to do it like in the vid, then save it and open in standalone . And I do mean standalone, not midi controller mode. Have a re script for reason, so I can assign midi channels to each track (reason only knows midi in “all” can’t assign midi channels), there is a module for midi out, so you can even go m+>reason>external hardware. With stems thrown in these days the possibilities are literally endless. (And I use both mpc one with Maschine plus together , this is one of the most exiting times to make music in my 20 years )
I often see people using the workflow you described... making loops on a MPC, then performing them into Ableton to create an arrangement and add vocals and stuff. But Akai has a product which combines both of those feature sets into a single device, the Force. So it baffles me how little attention the Force gets, since it seems like it should be quite a bit more popular. I hope theyll finally merge all the features into a single device soon.
That with audio over usb and that’s the dream device!
Bro you always raise the bar! I love how technical your videos are and you keep your explanations sort of simple. Lol. What a great feature for the Key 37. Thanks for your insights
Thanks! I try to my best to keep it simple. I don't always achieve it though
Thank you so much for this video! I'm now able to use it in Studio One. I haven’t been able to use the Key 37's transport in there yet, but being able to use it in standalone with my VSTs is amazing!
More valuable information on the key 37...great video...👍💯
I would love to retrofit my Key 61, Live ii, and X with whatever board needed to do so, to add this. Especially the Key 61! It's supposed to be the bigger sibling to the Key 37...lol
Dope Video and thanks for making this.
I just got my key 37, thats dope feature, so i can use studio as sound module with my vsts
Great review, Super useful.
❤️🙏
Very useful for connecting an iPad , it would be even better if Akai adds audio support
Yeah this is probably one of the best use cases for this
Completely enjoy the channel got my Mpc key 37 as an accompaniment to my live 2 retro and am using it solely as a synth. it is probably the ultimate rompler HOWEVER I have not attempted to sync it with the Mac live 2
Great video thank you
This is a underrated video.
Hey Tefty, great video. Does this feature mean it’s possible to use plugins in the daw and sample the sounds to the mpc directly using the mpc keyboard with only one usb cable connected? Thanks!
Sounds like there will be a new MPC X coming out soon
Tough to tell honestly. I'm sure a flagship refresh is planned at some point. Question is how many months/years out is it?
Yeah you’re right about that. I wish they made these new MPCs to where we could upgrade the internal parts instead of buying the latest version but I am still happy with my original X and Live 2. I also wanted to thank you for your tutorials they come in clutch
Dope! I wonder it it works with melodics now
Every MPC does
Love this kind of MPC Videos. Does you ever tried to mix an track completly in Standalone?
Thank you! I have tried and I'm not a big of fan of it for a couple reasons. First, I don't like EQ'ing in the MPC. I miss my DAW EQs like ProQ or any other visual EQ. Second I'm not a big fan of the reverbs currently in the MPC. Lastly, if I'm doing vocals, I usually max out of the 4 effect limit pretty fast. Also editing 'breaths' in vocals is a bit of pain in the MPC. Just my 2 cents 🙏
@@teftymusictech for me is the MPC just perfect. I want always make my Stuff without an PC. The MPC is in my opinion, the best Sequenzer that exist.
Hi Tefty Great info and great vid as usual. one quick question, I noticed in midi / midi clock or MTC. With MTC can the key 37 sequencer be slaved to a hardware multitrack recorder. So the key 37 does midi and multitrack does the audio. Great for jamming/ writing.
Thank you! And yes, the MPC can absolutely follow another clock. In the video I could've easily reversed the setup to where anytime I hit play in Ableton it would start the MPC clock. And same with transport controls and measure selection from within Ableton to MPC.
Awesome video! Can you connect it to boss rc505 mk2?
Queue everyone who bought the MPC Key 61 screaming about this.
That’s anyone who buys an in music product…. Pain and suffering 😂
I’ll never buy one of there products again.
Horrible customer service and bugs galore.
I'm hating my X right now, a month later they came out with the 61. Now they have the 37 with different features. That's fkd up😢@@Bibblebabbler
One question, can I play Ableton clips with the MPC KEY 37 PADs?
Thank you
I’m rocking a MPC 1000 with maschine software for vst’s. Wondering if this would be a upgrade?
Key 37 also has Abelton link you can use that as well
Facts, but it doesn't work as well midi over usb. With midi clock over usb, you have more control.
Interesting…I’ve been eyeing the Key 37 as a master controller for Ableton plus getting the things an MPC gets you. Sounds like this new feature makes it more useful alongside a DAW.
If you plug a USB midi interface into your MPC One/One+ does it then show “USB MIDI Port 1”? Perhaps as someone else said, the new hardware adds 2 USB midi ports plus the interface to the keyboard.
Very informative Video, thanks a whole lot....Since you are in communication with AKAI, can you nicely request for a MPE FEATURE, in this New ERA of Productions..it's highly imperative. YOUR INFLUENCE IS GREATLY NEEDED THANKS AGAIN...
I'll pass along the MPE request 👍
MPC one +Tascam 16x8 audio card 8 audio outs 2 ins, Midi in and outx2 thru usb in standalone mode as well as the midi in and out functional.
Okay now im convinced i should go with key37 instead of live 2
Nice
I have a Novation Launchpad MK3 Pro and how would you suppose that would work with the MPC Key 37? I just got my Key 37 the other day and I am so impressed. Thanks and have an amazing day 😁
Launchpad Pro MKIII is classcompliant USB MIDI, just hook it up to the USB-A on the back, enable the ports in system settings and it will work.
@@microbug3487 Thanks so much I really appreciate it 😁 Have a fantastic week
I have my Mpc X linked with my daw via an external clock. Been trying to figure out how to get the daw and the mpc to start at the same points like you did. for example if the daw starts at bar 32 the mpc will also start at bar 32. Once I figure out how to do that my hybrid setup will be perfect. Would also like to access the internal drive and ssd from the cpu while in standalone but I can live without that tho.
It has to do with the clock settings in the MPC preferences under the midi ports. Once thats set, then make sure your DAW is sending Midi clock properly to the Midi port that your MPC is receiving.
thank you! So is there anyway to record vocals into this device??? without another device?
If you want clean vocals, gotta get a preamp involved. You can boost the gain input on the back for a dynamic mic, but the noise floor is going to jump, which reduces the ability to compress and get clean vocals.
WOW thats nice !! Will try it with Logic Pro X . I have a audio interface connected to the USB A port on the MPC. Can i connect the MPC at the same time through USB B to the computer? Will test it and see what happens
That should work!
61 key used is the same price as a new 37.
When the key 61 came out I thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen way out my price range thought now the key 37 is out I'm planning on getting one as there only a few hundred pound more than the MPC one ...but I'm not an MPC user I do use other samplers and synths ect so it's learning the MPC work flow that's putting me off but I'm pretty confident I'd figured it
I have a question about the sound engine. how easy is it to design sounds from scratch? is it possible or is everything presets in the various programs and then tweaking the presets?
Most engines are pretty straight forward. The Mini D and Jura (paid plugins) are super simple if you used any of the typical subtractive synth emulations in VST format. OPx4 is probably the most complicated out of the bunch, but it's to be expected in an FM synth. As touch screen interfaces go, Akai's engineers have actually done a great job of making the interface feel usable to design/alter sounds. The biggest issue is the stock plugin synths are the least exciting IMO out of the bunch in terms of sound quality. Mini D and Jura are big steps in better sound engines overall. Just my 2 cents.
i need to know if it has an LFO feature, and if that feature can be applied to samples like an RS7000.. either thru the hardware or thru one of the plugins.. otherwise its a no go for me.. smh..
Hi, I have just tried to connect the mpc key 37 to a a laptop with ableton. Since the MPC Keys 37 has a USB audio, I thought it would be nice to use ableton as a slave instrument rack, eg. sending midi notes from the MPC to the ableton instruments and receiving the audio back to the MPC though the MPC Key 37 USB Audio interface. But when I press the small MPC icon in the upper right corner, Ableton detects the MPC key 37 USB audio ports, but the MPC keeps waiting for a daw connection eg. it shows the red screen that says "looking for a computer", and keeps waiting...So in my case It doesn't work :-( What am I doing wrong here? Thanks for all your great videos!
A couple things, in my video I was in standalone mode for the Key 37 and used the usb-midi to send midi to Ableton back and forth. In this mode you can't use the audio interface features while in standalone mode (it's like if you hooked up two computers to each other asking one to be an audio interface and still run as a normal computer).
Also in the video, I was using a separate audio interface to bring all the audio into my computer, which was running Ableton. Ableton was then being treated as a digital mixer and host for VST instruments.
So in your case, you're in controller mode (which gets you access to the audio interface features) but in order to run an MPC session, you gotta load up the software plugin inside Ableton. It's honestly not as convenient. And things get really confusing if you're unaware of the specific differences between controller mode and standalone mode.
Hope this helps!
What would be the process of achieving the closest to this on a Key 61? Would some adapter be needed or another external device?
UNO MIDI to USB cable
@@808ohenderson legend 🙏
Is stem separation exclusive to the MPC key 37 or can you do that with other Akai mpc devices as well?
not exclusive
Stem is for all modern MPC's once it's released. There will be a desktop version as well as the standalone.
hey, i did everything you mentioned in the video in ableton and mpc key 37 settings. however, i cant see my midi plugins from ableton in mpc key 37. In the video you can switch the vsti plugins in main view as separate tracks and you have the vsti names showed in mpc - how can i do this?
The only thing it does is provide the midi connections. All the labeling and midi channel routing has to be done manually. For instance, the Pigments track I have in the Key 37, I labeled that myself after I set the midi channel to the track that Ableton is listening to for the Pigments track (in Ableton). Once you've set everything up, save it as a template on both the MPC and Ableton to save time from session to session.
@@teftymusictech thanks! btw do you know if theres a way to audition sample chops in sample edit using keys instead of pads in mpc key 37?
Can the q-links be setup to control external params on other gear?
I believe so, via midi control. It takes a bit of setup to wrangle it.
@@teftymusictech thanks
And this is expected since Akai is essentially merging a traditional midi keyboard with a mpc.
7:36 I wonder if that’s part of the reason there’s not two USB A ports. They could’ve just redirected the port to pick up a piece of hardware “keyboard” that initially was intended to be a separate thing.
Possibly? Tough to tell without cracking it open and having a detailed understanding of the engineering behind it. My contact said specifically 'hardware innovation that was exclusive to the key 37' and was not coming to the other MPCs via firmware.
Kinda sort of said the same thing. I was leaning towards not giving a extra port at all and using what was already there for a different purpose. Definitely know what the difference between a USB A port vs B. Don't know though there's nothing in the OS that will flat out say it or chime to let us know.
I don't use USB MIDI enough to understand how it would normally work, but it sounds cool!
Basically deeper and easier connections into your DAW if the occasion ever arises. Or easily connect to an iPad/iPhone for midi connections.
@@teftymusictech Nice!
I can do that now with my MPC X. Yes, i use the midi ports, but there isn't anything different.. audio over usb would have been hugh which im sure its coming
yeah I mentioned in the video you can do the same thing by hooking up the MIDI Din ports. The problem with this for the One and One+ is you're taking up your one set of ports for external gear. Also with one USB cable that came with the Key 37, it replaces 4 Midi cables and an external box connecting to your computer to handle the two sets of Midi ports.
Another benefit, you can plug the Key 37 directly into an iPad or iPhone and get midi communication. Assuming you have a proper USB hub.
Man that’s crazy. I feel that I’m getting robbed of a feature I always wanted on my mpc live 2. 🤦♂️ can they make a software update to all other mpc?
So that's what sparked the video. As soon as I realized what the Key 37 was doing I emailed my contact asking when that feature was coming to my Live 2. When he confirmed it was a 'hardware innovation exclusive to the key 37' and not possible in the other MPCs because of hardware, I was like damn...
@@teftymusictech that’s crazy. Could you do a video of the work around for us trying to emulate that feature. Much appreciated.
bro please open a tech phone line i need your help lol. i really hope some day you make course on how to connect gear, use midi etc id pay
Can this be done with studio one
Studio One should have no problem with the Key 37 USB-Midi ports. I don't have Studio One so I can't verify any issues though.
What is the unique thing? A 2x16 Channels USB MIDI interface?
I think this feature is on the Force
If you have a Force, can you let me know?
i have no clue what he's on about?
something something MIDI something something USB...
@@teftymusictech Ah, I get it now...
Did Akai fund this video in any way?
surely.
No. Akai has never sponsored or paid me money. I've obviously been sent gear, but there has never been a requirement to say or post anything about the gear. I've literally been sent stuff I've never posted about because I didn't like the workflow.
I'm a professional musician that makes RUclips content because I have a passion for sharing information.
@@teftymusictechand even if you were funded, teaching us is always appreciated. We get that for free.
@@teftymusictech not casting shade, or not attempting too. ;). The fact that it can send midi as a usb midi device in standalone is quirky and interesting but def not earthshaking ;). I just seemed like something that Akai would ask you point out, that’s all. Now, if it could stream from disk -THAT would be earthshaking.
No shade taken! Just clarifying intentions. Definitely not earthshaking by any means, but what caught me off guard is it's a hardware limitation on older units that's preventing this ability. When I first realized it wasn't in the other MPCs I emailed my Akai contact asking when it's going to be in my Live 2. When he said it's a 'Hardware innovation exclusive to the Key 37' I thought it'd be worth sharing the info since I don't see any details on Akai's website.
wait, wait, wait. in standalone mode you dont have access to the sd card? huh?
When plugged into the computer, you have to be in controller mode to get access to the as card.
No in controller mode you don't have access to the SD card while it's inserted into the MPC. It had to be inserted into the computer. I believe 🤔
In standalone the MPC finds it in its own OS. When in controller mode it behaves as if you inserted/mounted a drive with an audio interface on a hub of some sort. Other MPCs the ssd shows at the same time too. You hear the USB device inserted chime. That’s how you would transfer files. Also on the MPC Daw software you just go to your SD card from its own file browser.
You never get errors of not being able to find files unless they were actually deleted or you did something to corrupt them. In standalone all the files within project are kept in ram until you save so you don’t make a mess of files. When you save it’s like collect and save. Loading will pick up everything that was dumped in that contained folder, so even when you switch to controller mode the computer is just picking up where you left off and doing the same thing, but collecting in its ram and dumping in a folder when you save.
@@THA-REAPER You should teach a class 🎶🙏👍
I dont get the big deal at all makes no sense to me...usb over audio yes
Imagine you're working in standalone mode but you wanted to use Vst instruments on your computer on a track or multiple tracks without switching to controller mode. Or if you wanted to sync your daw to your mpc in standalone.
Definitely not ground breaking. Hopefully I didn't imply this was 'game changing' in the video. Reason why I made the video is because this feature is not coming to the other MPCs via firmware, which I assumed it was at first.
@teftymusictech not ground breaking for some but very useful for that that dont to use midi cables.. great video ..im sure usb over audio is coming..
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