+Marie I agree with you because I'm doing still homework right now, and it been more then 2 hours or 3 hours for me, and been doing since the morning, and right now it 8:12 p.m. over here where I live.
The Crazy Maker I was speaking from personal experience, I struggled all through school and teachers always handed me off to someone else, either another student that was already doing fine in class, the TA, or they just ignored me.
As someone who grew up in a chaotic environment, I know that homework is just one more stress placed on a lot of kids who already have way too much to worry about. I've always made better grades in classes where I didn't have homework. Not because I was lazy, but because there was just no safe place or time to do homework at my house. Sadly, that's very common in lower income families. I'm glad the education system is finally allowing for some innovation in a teaching system that is far outdated.
It isn't about removing homework. It's realizing that the purpose of homework isn't "work to be done at home" but work that allows the student to discover for themselves what it is that they are learning and to either reflect and/or apply the knowledge from the act of learning. By having that work to be more closely monitored, evaluated, assessed, the value of the work and its impact (to be student and teacher) is increased. The educator can see the what works and what doesn't work. It's always been understood that when teachers gives out assignment the students do them and receives the grade. But there is no feedback on the actual assignment and its effectiveness on the learning process overall. This way, the teachers can see just how good/bad the assignments are and maybe get that "ah ha" moment about their own teaching styles and perhaps learn more about their methods. The teachers aren't just teachers but becoming students themselves. In the work place, we call this collaboration.
Thank you for the comment. I agree with you. Speaking from a musical standpoint, my private teacher uses the term "homework" whenever he thinks I need to do more work. But he doesn't just mean practicing whatever piece I am working on at the moment. What my teacher really means is to find an understanding of the piece of music. While he gives me pointers, he, like you said, allows me to discover for myself the meaning. Once this happens, I feel much more prepared technically with a better interpretation.
kyoko703 Even school is just a business, it's no longer about the students learning anything from their classes. This become more true and obvious when they get to college. The teachers no longer care whether their students get what they are teaching, and even purposely not teach everything so that the students would be force to self-study, and the usual reason they will give to you if you ask what are the kind of examples that they would give in the exam is that you would already know the answer if they give you a similar example that would also be given in the test. It would be like giving an exam in history that wasn't part of what was discussed in the class. This wouldn't be a problem if you are not paying the school to teach you about the subject. And let's be honest, how many have we ever thought of asking the teacher to repeat again the lesson, and we never did try to ask that since we know it would only cause more trouble and in some case how the teacher will have to repeat everything in the beginning since we got lost track out of it? This causes the uselessness of the existence of teachers, since the students' lack of ability to ask their teachers for guidance on how did that happen or how did these happen.
+kyoko703 Exactly. That is what makes my school amazing. They've done away with As, Bs, Cs, Ds, and Fs, and have a different grading system (a continuum, where the lowest grade is JB, Just Beginning, middle is A, Approaches, passing grade is M, Meets standards, and "extra credit" is E, Exceeds), and we can REVISE our assessments after getting feedback! Speaking of revisions, I have to work on one now, so... *turns off internet*
THANK you for posting this! I absolutely love this. It goes to show that when the free market is left to innovate and not forced to comply with federal standards amazing innovations, even in education can occur. This is why all schools should be allowed to innovate. We have no idea what untapped ideas and potential could be unleashed. The schools that outperform could then be emulated by others. Ways of educating the most efficiently using the least amount of $/student could be discovered. I really hope this school is left alone and is allowed to continue to do what's best for them and their students and community and not what some bureaucrat thousands of miles away thinks they should do to comply with the rest of the schools in the state/country. Just AWESOME!
This makes me curious about whether bullying goes down as students are performing better. It would be interesting to see a study testing the correlation between the two.
+Alik4041 From my personal experience I'm not sure if it effects my educational experience but it has effected my self confidence and personality in a big way which I am now having to fix in my last year. It isn't nice and I feel it puts me at a disadvantange.
Oh this is GREAT!! Finally someone intelligent who decided not to blame it on cellphones and kids and whatever(like my highschool did). Before we even had access to cellphones, kids still struggled in school, you know? It's not the root of the problem, so to all schools who ban cellphones and this and that to make it simple for you... it's not necessarily the way to go. Notice these kids have phones? Sure they might text during classes. Oh but wait... now they're A students? Looks like they can be reasonable when given the chance. I'm proud of this school and every other school that will follow the movement. You guys went at the rot of the problem to understand what was really going on instead of just going for the easy stuff to give yourselves less work. I am really happy you did this :)
Here we have an educational system taking responsibility as educators to educate. Rather than some educators who push the idea that everything is up to the student.
They can be proud of all the talent and motivation, that emerge by this method!! And I believe that's also more interesting and inspirating for the teachers themselves. Let spread this idea!!
Hey, this is my old alma mater! Good on you to be willing to take a chance on an innovative solution! The technology is there; there's no reason not to use it to help improve students' learning and standings.
I appreciate stories like these where it is clear positive change is occurring. My problem though is how simple they have made the problem and by extension the solution. Flipped learning, watching videos from home, or even the classroom is the answer to high dropout and failure rates? No educational problem of this magnitude is this simple. I would like to know what else is happening at the school since they implemented the new system. And is their initial success continuing? Why, how so? What are your other measurements?
after school I have a lot of homework assignments it was 20 pages every day but nobody wanted to help me. I have no life what so ever out of school now. my life is very terrible I gave up not doing my homework cause it would stress me up so much. and I feel like killing myself.
What about the kids who don't like waking up early for school. Anything going on during the school day is going to be blah. Not everyone functions best during daylight hours. Some natural night owls are alert after 5pm and normally burn the midnight oil. Likewise, some children work slower than others when they are in social settings. I wonder if the kids who do well during normal school still do well during flipped classes or is it too much homework that made me a night owl, so I am biased.
As a teacher, I have personal experience with the Flipped Classroom (math). It seems to work well for kids with intrinsic (internal) motivation to learn. But how does it help those who have quit, given up, "don't care"? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A STUDENT DOESN'T WATCH THE VIDEO? Do you send her/him to the back of the room with a laptop (or to the school Library) to watch while the rest of the class works on assignment sheets? If yes, then when does that kid do the assignment sheets - the next day when the rest of the class has moved on to a new topic? This still does not solve the problem of the unmotivated, those demotivated by parents and peers who do not value education at all, see no relevance in their own lives, are satisfied with just "getting by" day-by-day. How would the Flipped Classroom teach a foreign language?
Sorry, but i think your job is to keep them motivated and care for them trying to help them with the root of their demotivation. I agree that there are particular cases that don't keep up but that's the same with traditional classrooms. So, it's not the method's fault, it's people's fault (whether it's the teacher, the parents or anybody else). So, if you chose to become a techer, try to work harder with the ones who have issues and have fun teaching, they'll see that and will want to have fun as well.
Mena Agree completely in teacher (including my) responsibility to motivate and educate: "all children can learn, whatever it takes!" My question is specifically about how to handle those who still refuse to participate despite the flipped classroom. Simply put, we are NOT reaching these kids. Most of them were excited to learn between Kinder and 6th grade or so... then we lost them. Now it's time to redesign an education model that again will challenge, excite, and re-motivate these kids in new and successful ways. Our job is to help them become successful adults, not merely follow some curriculum which may or not fit. Examples: www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141001221102-69271965-what-i-wish-i-was-allowed-to-teach-in-high-school-what-do-you-wish-you-could-teach-in-high-school
Bill Funk Many of those students who seem demotivated have been utterly defeated by their teachers, peers, & especially their home life. I speak from the experience of having been raised in a volatile environment where school was the only real place I could find structure. Sadly, that's just a fact of life for many lower income families. (not all, but many). I can relate to these young people who have made failing grades for the majority of their school years. They're not dumb or lazy. They would rather pretend they just don't care anymore than to admit that life has broken them. We need to find some way to help these kids, because I assure you that you won't be able to change their home life. The best we can do is to make their lives more productive and rewarding in school.
+Robin Marie I completely agree... my comment is saying that the "Flipped Classroom" is NOT their answer... Self-directed, project-based learning may be closer to what can work.
If ‘homework’ is such an essential part of schooling, then you might as well keep kids in school until those assignments are done. After all, what good is going home if they have multiple ‘bosses’ giving them things to do on their own time and dime?
This is a great idea. Not like in Greece where kids need to go to shool... and then for after class and then do homework. Its like total 14 hours of school a day.. thats why they have so low level of education here. Its a petty things are not going to change here. And its a petty that the teachers cant do stuff like this..
Kids drinking 7/11 coffee and eating Cheezits in class (3:38)? Did you see the McDonald's pamphlets in the school (4:09)? This school cannot even teach basic nutrition within their own walls... "I went for D's and F's to straight A's!" Yet she doesn't even know what real food looks like... All this school has done is to find a new way to conform these children and prepare them for a lifetime of college debt and false happiness through consumerism. I am at a stance now that if you are a parent who cannot homeschool your own kids, you shouldn't be a parent.
ACTUALLY, I do know what food is. It's tea btw, but you wouldn't know. Maybe instead of focusing on what I'm eating in the video, you should focus on the message behind this video.
+Edward Black Those are not Mcdonalds pamphlets, they are magazine covers. Zoom your picture and you can clearly see that they are magazines covers As for the coffee, and the cheez-its, you dont know why those were there, suppose they were provided for the taping of this video, by the crew or producers. You are condemning w/o all the facts "I am at a stance now that if you are a parent who cannot homeschool your own kids, you shouldn't be a parent." Truly stupid, thank God you "stance" is not the law of the world
I wish the teachers I had in school cared to this level about teaching. So many of them only cared about the kids who weren't struggling.
+Marie I agree with you because I'm doing still homework right now, and it been more then 2 hours or 3 hours for me, and been doing since the morning, and right now it 8:12 p.m. over here where I live.
Marie well usually the kids that weren't struggling wanted to learn and were willing to
The Crazy Maker I was speaking from personal experience, I struggled all through school and teachers always handed me off to someone else, either another student that was already doing fine in class, the TA, or they just ignored me.
What homework did was that it left millions unemployed, and that needs to stop and that is part of why homework must end.
As someone who grew up in a chaotic environment, I know that homework is just one more stress placed on a lot of kids who already have way too much to worry about. I've always made better grades in classes where I didn't have homework. Not because I was lazy, but because there was just no safe place or time to do homework at my house. Sadly, that's very common in lower income families. I'm glad the education system is finally allowing for some innovation in a teaching system that is far outdated.
I am SO COMPLETELY behind this. If the system's not working, CHANGE IT.
Stacey Theesfield it is working lol parents are the ones failing the kids.
It isn't about removing homework. It's realizing that the purpose of homework isn't "work to be done at home" but work that allows the student to discover for themselves what it is that they are learning and to either reflect and/or apply the knowledge from the act of learning. By having that work to be more closely monitored, evaluated, assessed, the value of the work and its impact (to be student and teacher) is increased. The educator can see the what works and what doesn't work. It's always been understood that when teachers gives out assignment the students do them and receives the grade. But there is no feedback on the actual assignment and its effectiveness on the learning process overall. This way, the teachers can see just how good/bad the assignments are and maybe get that "ah ha" moment about their own teaching styles and perhaps learn more about their methods. The teachers aren't just teachers but becoming students themselves.
In the work place, we call this collaboration.
Thank you for the comment. I agree with you. Speaking from a musical standpoint, my private teacher uses the term "homework" whenever he thinks I need to do more work. But he doesn't just mean practicing whatever piece I am working on at the moment. What my teacher really means is to find an understanding of the piece of music. While he gives me pointers, he, like you said, allows me to discover for myself the meaning. Once this happens, I feel much more prepared technically with a better interpretation.
kyoko703 Even school is just a business, it's no longer about the students learning anything from their classes. This become more true and obvious when they get to college. The teachers no longer care whether their students get what they are teaching, and even purposely not teach everything so that the students would be force to self-study, and the usual reason they will give to you if you ask what are the kind of examples that they would give in the exam is that you would already know the answer if they give you a similar example that would also be given in the test. It would be like giving an exam in history that wasn't part of what was discussed in the class. This wouldn't be a problem if you are not paying the school to teach you about the subject. And let's be honest, how many have we ever thought of asking the teacher to repeat again the lesson, and we never did try to ask that since we know it would only cause more trouble and in some case how the teacher will have to repeat everything in the beginning since we got lost track out of it? This causes the uselessness of the existence of teachers, since the students' lack of ability to ask their teachers for guidance on how did that happen or how did these happen.
+kyoko703 Exactly. That is what makes my school amazing. They've done away with As, Bs, Cs, Ds, and Fs, and have a different grading system (a continuum, where the lowest grade is JB, Just Beginning, middle is A, Approaches, passing grade is M, Meets standards, and "extra credit" is E, Exceeds), and we can REVISE our assessments after getting feedback! Speaking of revisions, I have to work on one now, so... *turns off internet*
+kyoko703 YES YES YES YES AMEN I AM A HIGHSCHOOL STUDENT AND I AGREE WITH THIS
THANK you for posting this! I absolutely love this. It goes to show that when the free market is left to innovate and not forced to comply with federal standards amazing innovations, even in education can occur. This is why all schools should be allowed to innovate. We have no idea what untapped ideas and potential could be unleashed. The schools that outperform could then be emulated by others. Ways of educating the most efficiently using the least amount of $/student could be discovered. I really hope this school is left alone and is allowed to continue to do what's best for them and their students and community and not what some bureaucrat thousands of miles away thinks they should do to comply with the rest of the schools in the state/country. Just AWESOME!
This makes me curious about whether bullying goes down as students are performing better. It would be interesting to see a study testing the correlation between the two.
Alik4041 Interesting suggestion.
+Alik4041 From my personal experience I'm not sure if it effects my educational experience but it has effected my self confidence and personality in a big way which I am now having to fix in my last year. It isn't nice and I feel it puts me at a disadvantange.
Oh this is GREAT!! Finally someone intelligent who decided not to blame it on cellphones and kids and whatever(like my highschool did). Before we even had access to cellphones, kids still struggled in school, you know? It's not the root of the problem, so to all schools who ban cellphones and this and that to make it simple for you... it's not necessarily the way to go. Notice these kids have phones? Sure they might text during classes. Oh but wait... now they're A students? Looks like they can be reasonable when given the chance. I'm proud of this school and every other school that will follow the movement. You guys went at the rot of the problem to understand what was really going on instead of just going for the easy stuff to give yourselves less work. I am really happy you did this :)
This is so incredibly smart! I would have never thought of it but, it totally makes sense
Here we have an educational system taking responsibility as educators to educate. Rather than some educators who push the idea that everything is up to the student.
They can be proud of all the talent and motivation, that emerge by this method!! And I believe that's also more interesting and inspirating for the teachers themselves. Let spread this idea!!
Hey, this is my old alma mater! Good on you to be willing to take a chance on an innovative solution! The technology is there; there's no reason not to use it to help improve students' learning and standings.
Wow, another great result - it seems like any change at all will produce better results than our current system!
I appreciate stories like these where it is clear positive change is occurring. My problem though is how simple they have made the problem and by extension the solution. Flipped learning, watching videos from home, or even the classroom is the answer to high dropout and failure rates? No educational problem of this magnitude is this simple. I would like to know what else is happening at the school since they implemented the new system. And is their initial success continuing? Why, how so? What are your other measurements?
after school I have a lot of homework assignments it was 20 pages every day but nobody wanted to help me. I have no life what so ever out of school now. my life is very terrible I gave up not doing my homework cause it would stress me up so much. and I feel like killing myself.
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In Finland, it’s a homework free zone.
That guy's a total bro
Lmao in my highschool 100% graduate in 4 years and 100% go on to college XD
What about the kids who don't like waking up early for school. Anything going on during the school day is going to be blah. Not everyone functions best during daylight hours. Some natural night owls are alert after 5pm and normally burn the midnight oil. Likewise, some children work slower than others when they are in social settings. I wonder if the kids who do well during normal school still do well during flipped classes or is it too much homework that made me a night owl, so I am biased.
Why not make it. Federal law to ban homework
As a teacher, I have personal experience with the Flipped Classroom (math). It seems to work well for kids with intrinsic (internal) motivation to learn. But how does it help those who have quit, given up, "don't care"? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A STUDENT DOESN'T WATCH THE VIDEO? Do you send her/him to the back of the room with a laptop (or to the school Library) to watch while the rest of the class works on assignment sheets? If yes, then when does that kid do the assignment sheets - the next day when the rest of the class has moved on to a new topic? This still does not solve the problem of the unmotivated, those demotivated by parents and peers who do not value education at all, see no relevance in their own lives, are satisfied with just "getting by" day-by-day. How would the Flipped Classroom teach a foreign language?
Sorry, but i think your job is to keep them motivated and care for them trying to help them with the root of their demotivation. I agree that there are particular cases that don't keep up but that's the same with traditional classrooms. So, it's not the method's fault, it's people's fault (whether it's the teacher, the parents or anybody else). So, if you chose to become a techer, try to work harder with the ones who have issues and have fun teaching, they'll see that and will want to have fun as well.
Mena Agree completely in teacher (including my) responsibility to motivate and educate: "all children can learn, whatever it takes!" My question is specifically about how to handle those who still refuse to participate despite the flipped classroom. Simply put, we are NOT reaching these kids. Most of them were excited to learn between Kinder and 6th grade or so... then we lost them. Now it's time to redesign an education model that again will challenge, excite, and re-motivate these kids in new and successful ways. Our job is to help them become successful adults, not merely follow some curriculum which may or not fit. Examples: www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141001221102-69271965-what-i-wish-i-was-allowed-to-teach-in-high-school-what-do-you-wish-you-could-teach-in-high-school
Bill Funk Many of those students who seem demotivated have been utterly defeated by their teachers, peers, & especially their home life. I speak from the experience of having been raised in a volatile environment where school was the only real place I could find structure. Sadly, that's just a fact of life for many lower income families. (not all, but many). I can relate to these young people who have made failing grades for the majority of their school years. They're not dumb or lazy. They would rather pretend they just don't care anymore than to admit that life has broken them. We need to find some way to help these kids, because I assure you that you won't be able to change their home life. The best we can do is to make their lives more productive and rewarding in school.
+Bill Funk Dont let the perfect be the enemy of the good....
Sure some subjects may be hard adapt, and they may have figured out a way to do it...
+Robin Marie
I completely agree... my comment is saying that the "Flipped Classroom" is NOT their answer... Self-directed, project-based learning may be closer to what can work.
This is awesome. I am curious is this school forced to implement common core?
+Angel Jiminian good question. I so don't support common core.... who every thought of it.... who allowed it, WHY
we lucky at clintondale 😂
. too bad the ms isn't like this
Im moving there
Home work needs to be banned
What with kids that don't prepare for class?
If ‘homework’ is such an essential part of schooling, then you might as well keep kids in school until those assignments are done. After all, what good is going home if they have multiple ‘bosses’ giving them things to do on their own time and dime?
This is a great idea. Not like in Greece where kids need to go to shool... and then for after class and then do homework. Its like total 14 hours of school a day.. thats why they have so low level of education here. Its a petty things are not going to change here. And its a petty that the teachers cant do stuff like this..
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nice1
Khan academy 👍
I always wondered WHY all that homework!!! kennyduke.blogspot.com/2018/09/homework-why-all-that-stress.html
Kids drinking 7/11 coffee and eating Cheezits in class (3:38)? Did you see the McDonald's pamphlets in the school (4:09)?
This school cannot even teach basic nutrition within their own walls...
"I went for D's and F's to straight A's!" Yet she doesn't even know what real food looks like...
All this school has done is to find a new way to conform these children and prepare them for a lifetime of college debt and false happiness through consumerism.
I am at a stance now that if you are a parent who cannot homeschool your own kids, you shouldn't be a parent.
ACTUALLY, I do know what food is. It's tea btw, but you wouldn't know. Maybe instead of focusing on what I'm eating in the video, you should focus on the message behind this video.
The message is very clear...
+Edward Black Those are not Mcdonalds pamphlets, they are magazine covers.
Zoom your picture and you can clearly see that they are magazines covers
As for the coffee, and the cheez-its, you dont know why those were there, suppose they were provided for the taping of this video, by the crew or producers.
You are condemning w/o all the facts
"I am at a stance now that if you are a parent who cannot homeschool your own kids, you shouldn't be a parent."
Truly stupid, thank God you "stance" is not the law of the world
First there complaining about to much homework and now they are complaining about no homework.......
Ria Hossain I think homework should be balanced.