The History of Rohan: The Early Years | Tolkien Explained

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 180

  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings  Год назад +25

    Check out the new Magic: the Gathering: Wilds of Eldraine: bit.ly/WOExNOTR

  • @valentinkambushev4968
    @valentinkambushev4968 Год назад +367

    Probably my favorite men. They are proof that men don't need elvish blood to be brave, honorable, and good. Long live Rohan! 🐴🐎

    • @Thiago_Alves_Souza
      @Thiago_Alves_Souza Год назад +30

      Well the Numenorians didn't have elvish blood, they were simply blessed by Eru/Valar with more vitality after the War of Wrath and the defeat of Morgoth. Only the royal line had elvish blood.

    • @randyjh82
      @randyjh82 Год назад +3

      Just to live longer

    • @RandomRetallingsofRiggins
      @RandomRetallingsofRiggins Год назад +13

      I love Rohan and the real life cultures they were based off

    • @istari0
      @istari0 Год назад +6

      The Edain of the 1st Age had no elvish blood and included many remarkable heroes.

    • @Thiago_Alves_Souza
      @Thiago_Alves_Souza Год назад +3

      @@istari0 only a few bro

  • @myriadmediamusings
    @myriadmediamusings Год назад +169

    Cool as Gondor may be, I can totally get why some would prefer Rohan instead. Its origins and founding was one of the most interesting tales of third age pre-Hobbit because of how it focused on the overlooked, non-Numenorean Men.

    • @sh4rdsofNarzil
      @sh4rdsofNarzil Год назад +7

      gondor was really bad protrayed in LotR. and yet. they WHERE weak. constant ages of fighting against sauron. rohan have had some peace compared to gondor =)

    • @Dokgo22
      @Dokgo22 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@sh4rdsofNarzilthey were* weak 😅

  • @liamhiggins3787
    @liamhiggins3787 Год назад +55

    Can’t wait for War of the Rohirim! Even though it got delayed, I’m gonna need to study up on Rohan history

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Год назад +20

      I think the delay will be good for everyone overall - more time to polish the film & having LOTR in December will be awesome.

    • @liamhiggins3787
      @liamhiggins3787 Год назад +4

      Ya, I was disappointed at first, but if it means a better movie, I all for it

    • @markstott6689
      @markstott6689 Год назад +8

      Middle Earth films and a Christmas release is a tradition that needs to be maintained.
      I hope and pray that ROP knows its place and comes nowhere near a Christmas release.

  • @deanzaZZR
    @deanzaZZR Год назад +31

    Cirion didn't know how monumentally important sending the Red Arrow would be, to save Gondor from disaster not once, but twice. Whenever the history of Rohan is talked about I love to reread Aragorn's words from the chapter, The Riders of Rohan, "They are proud and willful, but they are true-hearted, generous in thought and deed; bold but not cruel, wise but unlearned, writing no books but singing many songs, after the manner of the children of Men before the Dark Years".

  • @Kubilay31820
    @Kubilay31820 Год назад +59

    There are many other words that is of Anglo-Saxon spring, namely:
    Súthburg (Southburg)
    Orþanc (Intelligence)
    The Folde, folde in Anglo-Saxon (Earth)
    Simbelmynë, symbelblōstm in Anglo-Saxon (Symble, as a noun, means funeral and blōstm means flower, blossom.)
    Meduseld (Meadseat)
    Edoras (Fences)
    Baldor, bealdor in Anglo-Saxon (Prince)
    Aldor, ealdor in Anglo-Saxon (Elder)
    Fréa, frēa in Anglo-Saxon (Lord)
    Fréawine, frēawine in Anglo-Saxon (Lord-friend)
    Déor (it can mean animal or a personal name, there is a poem called Dēor’s lament.)
    Isen, īsern in Anglo-Saxon (iron)
    Isengard, *Īserngeard in Anglo-Saxon (Iron-yard)
    Freca (Warrior)
    Fréaláf (Lord-remnant)

  • @Mets4Barth68
    @Mets4Barth68 Год назад +31

    Hey man, just wanted to say this world is mad, and my head is constantly swimming with anxiety, but your videos are a total relief. They are soft and safe and take my mind away from harsher realities. They really are a life boat in my life, and I thought you should know that you make a difference beyond just talking Tolkien.

    • @sabinedouble07
      @sabinedouble07 9 месяцев назад +1

      Same here. The Nerd of the Rings videos are a safe and soothing place for my mind to wander along as he retells Tolkien's tales.

    • @mariotasic6451
      @mariotasic6451 6 месяцев назад

      Agreed! The world of Tolkien, in general, has always been a safe space for me, helped by the likes of this channel. So much love and care is put in these videos. Really makes it seem like we're listening and learning about actual history of a world long lost.

  • @marcognudi664
    @marcognudi664 Год назад +27

    The depth of Tolkien seems unending

    • @YrnehLrak
      @YrnehLrak Год назад +2

      Yes! What a imagination he had

  • @shehansenanayaka3046
    @shehansenanayaka3046 Год назад +16

    Brilliant video. Rohan is one of my fav kingdoms in middle earth. We know it take lot of time and hard work and dedication to make these videos. So we always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. Love you from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿.

  • @DarkROSkull013
    @DarkROSkull013 Год назад +8

    From king of his people to becoming the stuff of nightmares. King Helm sure passed into legend.

  • @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
    @lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Год назад +7

    I once knew a man of the Eothed, I liked his horse more, had better manners and less arrogant. Although, they Eorlingas fight with unrivaled savagery upon horseback. Great job keep up the great work Mellon!
    Ecthelion!!!

  • @evaguess2313
    @evaguess2313 Год назад +2

    Rohan is one of my favorite places of Middle Earth. The location and the geography seems right up my alley

  • @MrBrendofc
    @MrBrendofc Год назад +1

    As a fantasy cartographer, I just love the uses you guys give to maps in your videos. Amazing!

  • @sh4rdsofNarzil
    @sh4rdsofNarzil Год назад +4

    LOVED this one. compared to the other ones that you have made. like helm hammerhand. it was so alike. LOVED it!

  • @HarrytheDinosaur
    @HarrytheDinosaur Год назад +9

    Love this channel! Keep up the good work!

  • @joestar99
    @joestar99 Год назад +1

    Oh yes! I've been waiting in this ever since your video on the Eothed. Noice work!

  • @JoyFetters
    @JoyFetters Год назад +2

    Yay Rohan-my favorite country of Men! (plus I look more like them than a Gondorian lol). Happy you’re going over them!

  • @annaroselarsen4218
    @annaroselarsen4218 Год назад +4

    Rohan is one of favorite places in the movies

  • @luudest
    @luudest Год назад +2

    Nice! There will be a video about the Dunlendings!

  • @francescopioricci1644
    @francescopioricci1644 Год назад +2

    When i seek for lotr lore you are always the first channel i look on. Keep up the good work

  • @alfieh24
    @alfieh24 Год назад +1

    So close to 1 million!! Awesome videos man I love them all 👍🏻

  • @amhahailu8420
    @amhahailu8420 Год назад +2

    Another wonderfully detailed video keep it up

  • @PurdyGood
    @PurdyGood Год назад

    Yesss! I know so little about the history of Rohan. Looking forward to the future parts!!

  • @colinleat8309
    @colinleat8309 Год назад +3

    A remarkable history for a realitivly young country. I thought Rohan was at least three times as old. Can't WAIT for the War of the Rohirim movie! 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦

  • @benbaxter1047
    @benbaxter1047 Год назад

    Thanks for the video and channel. I have just started reading Tolken books and bought the Simillarion after watching videos from this channel. This video came at the time that I rewatched the two towers from LOTR.

  • @nerdwatch1017
    @nerdwatch1017 8 месяцев назад

    I had a cool idea for something the Dwarfs also did for Rohan. Beneath there capital of Edoras a great system of caves are made so if the city is ever attacked then those inside the walls can escape. With a tunnel reaching to helms deep

  • @TiagoRamosVideos
    @TiagoRamosVideos Год назад

    Amazing work 👏 thanks for this art and history 🙏

  • @tomcrow412
    @tomcrow412 Год назад

    Man this video was great! Thanks for all the effort put in, it shows.

  • @carson11100
    @carson11100 Год назад +2

    Superb work as always! Entertaining and insightful!

  • @AKadir8
    @AKadir8 Год назад +17

    This series is going to be epic as always. Thank you so much.
    For me, Rohan was always the more human-like people. Maybe the reason I hold them the dearest is because of my Caucasian ancestry. Yes, Gondor is the brain and the shining armor of humanity in Middle-Earth, but Rohan is the heart and the last refuge of humanity. They're more in touch with nature, the animals and the soil. Representing the lower class of the Men, they were the realest, most humble yet most noble of Men in my eyes. There's a reason why Saruman targeted Theoden with curses, sabotage, and spies more than Gondor. Most of the supply chains, cavalries and communication were established and governed by Rohan. They also have somewhat of a ''genetical'' gift of commanding the horses, making them an unmatched army of Horsemen. I like to think them as the live embodiments of Orome and his virtues because you can see the same attributes during the charge at Pelennor Fields. All the fell creatures tasted fear by the divine wrath of the Men riding against all odds that day, from the mightiest generals to the lowest scum of Sauron.

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk Год назад +5

    Always loved the Rohirrim among the Men of Middle-earth. And their horses of course!! I remember hearing a VERY paraphrased version of Eowyn's part in the War of the RIng and thinking "I wanna be like that one day!" (Though to be honest, mostly because I was and remain "horse crazy," and loved the idea of a strong warrior lady on horseback.)

  • @istari0
    @istari0 Год назад +2

    One of the fascinating bits of history about the Rohirrim is their ancient ancestors were Men akin to the Edain but that never crossed into Beleriand. Indeed some may have been Edain who fled across the Ered Luin after the War of Wrath and the destruction of Beleriand.

  • @josueplaza540
    @josueplaza540 Год назад

    I absolutely love every video of yours I watch dude, and there have been many lol! Keep all the Tolkien coming!

  • @Hero_Of_Old
    @Hero_Of_Old Год назад +2

    Westu hál. Ferdu, Theodred, Ferdu! I love the Anglo Saxon flavour of Rohan, feels so authentic and real due to Tolkien's knowledge of language and European cultures.

  • @modernoverman
    @modernoverman Год назад +3

    I love the lore, history, and people's of Rohan. They're definitely the people I identify most with. Also love the Tolkien just gave them Old English to speak.

  • @eduardoalamo1240
    @eduardoalamo1240 Год назад +4

    King Aldor the Old lived for so long that he was 99 when his great great-grandson Déor was born, and during those two years before the old king's passing five generations of the Rohan royal family would be alive under the same roof.

  • @JayashinaParthiban
    @JayashinaParthiban Год назад +2

    You are one of my fav lotr RUclipsrs always. I am also glad that you don't use profanities, bad words unlike other RUclipsrs out there.

    • @HarrytheDinosaur
      @HarrytheDinosaur Год назад +1

      Same

    • @zStC1
      @zStC1 Год назад +2

      Oh noo bad words might just hurt my feelings if I were to merely hear the utterance of them I would just crumble😂

  • @ultra8410
    @ultra8410 Год назад +1

    this channel keeps giving.

  • @siegejay495
    @siegejay495 Год назад +1

    You guys really do great work 👍

  • @stefan_robert
    @stefan_robert Год назад +1

    I almost watch all of your videos, I love this channel it's amazing, I hope you tell me about the fourth age of middle earth.

  • @stepanpazderka5497
    @stepanpazderka5497 11 месяцев назад +1

    Rohan is the coolest. Unlike the Dunedain, which were succesful largely bcs of the gifts from Valar, Rohirrim made their whole fortune on their own, repelling and defending their homeland against evil much stronger than them, even saving the so-called “nobelest of men” much more often than Dunedain actually helped them.

  • @daveonwheeler7412
    @daveonwheeler7412 Год назад +7

    To Lord And Land. Rohan will answer

  • @TheDrumstickEmpire
    @TheDrumstickEmpire Год назад

    Great and informative video as always!

  • @venomgaming2077
    @venomgaming2077 Год назад +9

    After trying to watch the fellowship movie for like the 3rd time and giving up midway bc of the runtime, I have finally started reading the books first.
    I'm halfway through fellowship and am already blown away by the amount of richness the lore has. The bits of lore that are dropped about the elder days are SO interesting😍
    I have never read a fantasy world that breathes the way middle earth does. Although I've experienced like what maybe 5% of middle Earth at this point😂😂
    Can't wait to finish fellowship and get to the next one.

    • @XXAnthonyCarmineXx
      @XXAnthonyCarmineXx 7 месяцев назад

      It’s not even that bad your attention span must be short lol

  • @Mturner812
    @Mturner812 Год назад

    I just heard you will be at my local coffee shop on draft night. I wish I could be there to meet you but if not I hope you have a blast at Pearl street

  • @lucasjleandro
    @lucasjleandro Год назад +2

    Now for Wrath

  • @Darkgeran7
    @Darkgeran7 Год назад +4

    My favorite kingdom is dale but Rohan is aw more inspiring

  • @chrisryan2313
    @chrisryan2313 Год назад

    Good work Boss 👏

  • @ethandykema
    @ethandykema Год назад

    cool video Matt

  • @Helmann9265
    @Helmann9265 Год назад

    Awesome 💯 as always 🍁🍂🍃
    Thanks 🌟

  • @thabocele2309
    @thabocele2309 11 месяцев назад +1

    “The horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the deep one last time “

  • @rozemsama
    @rozemsama Год назад

    Please please do a video on the many langagues of Middle-Earth. I think it's the only big mithology theme you haven't touched yet and considering Tolkien built this whole legendarium from the languagues he created, I think it's an amazing topic to dive into.

  • @jaylonghi3604
    @jaylonghi3604 Год назад

    So are you on the thinking path of "sorry ass man" comes with the gifts for the new king with his plan already in mind? I always thought he found stuff with eisengard that starting his thinking that way? Love the cast!

  • @krigarious8327
    @krigarious8327 Год назад

    Have you ever considered starting a podcast with these Tolkien tales? It'll be great to listen to.

  • @chrysm6842
    @chrysm6842 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks !

  • @JustFamilyPlaytime
    @JustFamilyPlaytime Год назад +5

    Rohan is clearly Yorkshire. The word riding comes from the Norse word for thirds. Yorkshire, like Rohan is divided into three parts. And like Rohan, Yorkshire regularly comes to the rescue of England - usually during an Ashes test series.

    • @markstott6689
      @markstott6689 Год назад +2

      Don't forget that our beloved Professor lived and spent time in Yorkshire. Christopher was actually born in Leeds. JRR also did his army signals training at Farnley Camp, just outside my home town of Otley.

    • @retriever19golden55
      @retriever19golden55 Год назад

      I always thought the Rohirrim were modeled somewhat after the Irish, proud poets and horsemen who live the land; while the Dwarves were Scots, dour, tight with their treasure, hardworking, and brave.

    • @markstott6689
      @markstott6689 Год назад

      @retriever19golden55 Saxons on horses has been my view for the last 45 years.

  • @TheGeneralGrievous19
    @TheGeneralGrievous19 Год назад +1

    Rohan is one of my favourite lands/peoples in Middle-Earth. 🐴💚 They are cool and have a cool history. Love the medieval Anglo-Saxon influence and them being good riders which on the other hand reminds me of my homeland of Poland that was known for cavalry like the winged hussars and uhlans.

    • @pattonramming1988
      @pattonramming1988 Год назад

      Uhlans? Are they light cavalry or horse archers

    • @TheGeneralGrievous19
      @TheGeneralGrievous19 Год назад

      @@pattonramming1988 Light cavalry using lances and sabers, then adopting guns and rifles as well, they were part of many central and eastern European armies since 18th century, but the Polish-Lithuanians were specifically known for it. The chevau-légers/lancers of the Napoleonic times were basically uhlans, adopted because of Polish soldiers fighting for Napolen, also influencing other countries like British 16th queen's dragoons being reformed into lancers in 1816. They fought all the way up to first half of 20th century, i.e. in 1920 Polish uhlans defeated larger Soviet 'Konarmia' at battle of Komarów. In Poland we have a lot of military songs mentioning the uhlans, we call them "ułani" or "ułany" in plural.

  • @NathanS__
    @NathanS__ Год назад +3

    I am always curious about the Rohirric city of Aldburg, the seat of Eomer. The name means old fortress and was the first capital of Rohan.
    I have always assumed that it was another Gondorian fortress-city that Eorl chose to make his seat temporarily until a more Rohirric site & city could be founded.
    Since the name means old fortress, I find it weird that Eorl would build a completely new city and name it old fortress there only for his sons to make Edoras.
    But there's so little information about Aldburg except that it's a place that exists.

  • @johanabigasova6770
    @johanabigasova6770 Год назад

    Forth Eorlingas! Rohirrim are best allies you need, faithful even when you broke your vow. 🐴

  • @JohnWayne-y1b
    @JohnWayne-y1b 7 месяцев назад

    So Theoden losing his son and being totally crushed by it also showed some echo of the life of his ancestor King Brego but instead of dying of grief he decided to fulfill his oath to Gondor. Inspiring

  • @LeoBollman
    @LeoBollman Год назад +1

    Day 5 of asking for top 100 most powerful characters in loyr

  • @johnkamadeva4747
    @johnkamadeva4747 Год назад +1

    Damn Helm might be the most badass and Gigachad out of all Rohirrim Kings, this MF must’ve been an absolute unit and an absolute nightmare in a hand to hand combat, to wield such no weapons and uses only his bare fists to slay his enemies is truly an insane feat for a human, I’m starting to think he might be Tulkas incarnate in a mortal form 😁💪👊

  • @cpegg5840
    @cpegg5840 Год назад +2

    Hopefully Aldarion and Erendis coming soon 🙏

  • @OeHomestead
    @OeHomestead Год назад +1

    So that's why Aragorn says "Your name is kingly" to the horse when Éowyn tells him the horse's name is Brego :-)

  • @erikbender1967
    @erikbender1967 Год назад +1

    As much as I like Gondor, I really enjoy the land of Rohan, much more. I guess being descended from Vikings is one of the reasons.

  • @jchart
    @jchart Год назад

    Can I ask where you get your background music? I really dig the vibe and wouldn't mind being able to fall asleep to it lol. Particularly the track with the part playing at 4:50 to 5:10 or so.

  • @jaysgamingcorner8539
    @jaysgamingcorner8539 Год назад

    Awesome! The lore Tolkien wrote is so deep I wonder sometimes if there's a bottom to it. Of course I hope not, it's too good.

  • @orionparish9858
    @orionparish9858 Год назад

    This almost makes up for War of the Rohirim getting delayed. Though I doubt the video was put together that fast, so just horrible luck this comes out so soon after that announcement.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Год назад +3

    Several aspects of Rohan's culture and history seem to be inspired by both Goths, Scandinavians and the medieval Anglo-Saxons.

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Год назад +2

      Indeed! The Rohirric language is basically just Anglo-Saxon.

  • @Garethadvertiser
    @Garethadvertiser Год назад

    I'm a simple man. I see a Nerd of the Rings video, I click

  • @00martoneniris86
    @00martoneniris86 Год назад +3

    coud you make the next one about Mordor
    The history of Mordor

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Год назад

      Already got you covered! ruclips.net/video/o5TaNxHfN-A/видео.htmlsi=Fketlw6T3yaTUK-p

    • @pattonramming1988
      @pattonramming1988 Год назад

      ​@@NerdoftheRingshistory of Lindon?

  • @KonradvonHotzendorf
    @KonradvonHotzendorf Год назад +1

    No ways Magic the Gathering still exists 🍿🤯

  • @luudest
    @luudest Год назад +1

    In the Muster of Rohan King Théoden recruited 6000 riders. Do you know where these Men all came from? To me Rohan always seemed to be a not so populated land.

    • @Hero_Of_Old
      @Hero_Of_Old Год назад

      You only really see Edoras, Helms Deep and Dunharrow in the films, not all the other places in Rohan. Thats where the other riders came from. You hear Theoden ask about the different places. "Where are the riders from Snowborne?" etc

  • @vaingloriant
    @vaingloriant Год назад +4

    I'm hoping War of the Rohirrim will make up for some of the disappointments we got from Rings of Power. This video (and series) will be very useful knowledge for when WotR is released

    • @valentinkambushev4968
      @valentinkambushev4968 Год назад +2

      War of the Rohirrim already has my attention for being animated (I love animation, and I think it fits Tolkien's works way better.)

  • @kellykramer7629
    @kellykramer7629 Месяц назад

    Probably my favorite group in middle earth.

  • @BradlehDadleh
    @BradlehDadleh Год назад +1

    Where do you get all of this information? I read the hobbit, the lord of the rings, and the silmarillion, and unfinished tales and didn't see most of this in there. Is a lot of this from "The History of Middle-Earth" works? Awesome video! Thanks!

    • @12classics39
      @12classics39 7 месяцев назад +1

      It’s from Appendix A at the end of “Return of the King.” After the last chapter where Sam returns to his family, the back of the book is a collection of appendices with additional information about the lore, timeline of events, calendars, languages, translations, and family trees.

    • @lukesewell8294
      @lukesewell8294 6 месяцев назад

      Many interesting tidbits are hidden in the Appendices

  • @jamesalfredstrong8106
    @jamesalfredstrong8106 Год назад

    I never clicked ao auper fast 😂,👍thank youuuuu😊

  • @LordDawsonVII
    @LordDawsonVII Год назад

    Love this! I'm building helms deep on my minecraft server!

  • @outrider44
    @outrider44 Год назад +1

    Ah yes, my people. Forth Eorlingas!!

  • @jediyoda7338
    @jediyoda7338 Год назад +1

    Jai Shree Ram 🙏

  • @oliverhancock5292
    @oliverhancock5292 Год назад

    The messengers from Gondor to Eorl did not bear the Red Arrow (the token summoning Rohan's aid in the War of the Ring); each bore a small stone incised with the seal of the Stewards. (Unfinished Tales)

  • @mt_baldwin
    @mt_baldwin 8 месяцев назад

    Here's some nerdy knowledge from the real world that I was reminded of when he said 19 years was a short reign. What do you think is the average time a King's (or emperor's etc) reign is? 12.5 years. I got this number by doing the math for Kingdoms and empires that we have long and reliable records of their rulers for (England, France, Byzantine, Imperial Rome, Pharonic Egypt etc.). Even averaged only among themselves they were remarkably similar, ranging from 10 to 14 years no matter which country's hereditary rulers I did the math for.
    Yes I know the 19 year figure is for Middle Earth, I'm not challenging this. I'm just sharing a bit of info related to this and maybe giving something from our world to contrast and compare this with. 19 years is remarkably short in Middle Earth but it's well over the average for our world.

  • @lucasjleandro
    @lucasjleandro Год назад +9

    I love the concept of Rohan, they're Vikings in Horses

    • @Hero_Of_Old
      @Hero_Of_Old Год назад +4

      *Anglo Saxons/Germanic people. Vikings is a modern term and refers to pirates essentially

    • @pattonramming1988
      @pattonramming1988 Год назад +3

      Them seem to have more in common with Saxons

    • @darreng745
      @darreng745 Год назад

      Tolkien being an professor in Anglo Saxon studies and language felt at home in his adopted Midlands (having been born in South Afrca) and what you see is a literary appreciation of the heights of the Mercian Kingdom in the Rohirrim especially the use of the word Éothéod which is a bit unusual as the Anglo Saxons used cavalry but for scouting as they primarily fought as infantry.

    • @Casa-de-hongos
      @Casa-de-hongos Год назад +2

      They are much more inspired by the actual horse based cultures of the eurasian steppes, than vikings.

  • @nafisamusah7085
    @nafisamusah7085 Год назад

    Yes my favorite kingdom of MEN. I love how they don’t need elven magic to seem powerful.😍😍

  • @vertigo2604
    @vertigo2604 10 месяцев назад

    My favourite secondary heroes in the movie are Eowyn and Theoden

  • @Edwinthemountainman8454
    @Edwinthemountainman8454 Год назад +1

    Rohan = best kingdom The home of The horselords

  • @michasalamon8315
    @michasalamon8315 Год назад +1

    There is a thing I wonder, what do you think Dunlending were inspired by? Rohan is clearly inspired by Saxons, Gondor is obviously a mixture of roman and byzantine empire, while Arnor and the Elves in general have very celtic theme to them, easterlings are based on tatars, orcs on mongols (or reverse, maybe also a little china and india with the elephants) corairs of Umbar and Haradrim are based on middle easter cultures. Their history is obviously not very important and were not focused much in any story, but they had to be descendants of men from the first age, and not related to Numenorians at all.
    Now I regret I have not made that suggestion when you made the last post about questions. I would like to now write about writing possible video about what happened to humans in middle earth after the War of Wrath and the first age. Some must have stayed on the main continent while some went to Numenor.

    • @FairbrookWingates
      @FairbrookWingates Год назад

      Perhaps they represent the native Britains, the ones driven back by the waves of Celtic, Roman and Anglo-Saxon invaders until they lost to time and pre-history. The ones who first began Stonehenge by digging a ditch and forming a mound long before any druid every performed a rite there. Like those forgotten people, the Dunlending history may not be so much unimportant as simply unknown.

    • @michasalamon8315
      @michasalamon8315 Год назад

      @@FairbrookWingates not realy, humans were awaken during the rising of the Sun and were around during the first age. Most likely they are the ones who did not go to Numenor, same as people who would found rohan.

    • @FairbrookWingates
      @FairbrookWingates Год назад

      @@michasalamon8315 You ask who they might have been inspired by and that's all I was getting at, not who they literally are in Middle Earth. You also wrote their history as being "obviously not very important" and so I drew a line to say perhaps Tolkien may have left their history vague not because they are not important, but because they should be at least somewhat unknown, like the ancient natives of Britain.
      For who the Dunlendings literally are, sure, your thought of them being some who did not go to Numenor makes sense.

    • @michasalamon8315
      @michasalamon8315 Год назад

      @@FairbrookWingates I meant that Rohan and Dunlendings have the same origins and get Rohan is inspired by Saxons. If you go by this fact alone, and assume Dunlendings are culture before arrival of Saxons, it could make them Celts, or Picts, doesn’t have to be straight up stone age people

    • @FairbrookWingates
      @FairbrookWingates Год назад

      @@michasalamon8315 Ah, I see what you're saying. Sure, Celts work in that case.

  • @matthiasvk913
    @matthiasvk913 Год назад

    29k subs needed for a 1 mil.

  • @sahir313
    @sahir313 6 месяцев назад

    Rohan..the name itself is something special.

  • @Jmac1962
    @Jmac1962 Год назад

    at 10:37 you say "After Deor's death in 2741, his son Helm comes to power..." That should be "Gram's death.."?

  • @BrayzGaming
    @BrayzGaming Год назад

    You made a small error at 10:41, you said Helm is the son of Deor when you meant Gram.

  • @edoethalesmo
    @edoethalesmo Год назад +1

    Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell?

  • @12classics39
    @12classics39 7 месяцев назад

    I doubt Helm actually stuck around after death as a wraith. Men leave Arda when they die, and Helm was not bound by any broken oath or Ring of Power. A great detail from Tolkien showing how Men tend to have their own superstitious beliefs that may not really be true.

  • @MarcRitzMD
    @MarcRitzMD Год назад

    Cool origin story, except pretty hollow of a promise when the uncompromising and unconditional alliance only had been called and acted upon at the War of the Ring.
    No wonder Denethor was skeptical of Rohan's support when they've not helped once since their founding.

    • @istari0
      @istari0 Год назад +1

      1) The ancestors of The Éothéod, the Northmen of Rhovanion had often allied with and fought alongside the armies of Gondor starting over 1500 years before the War of the Ring. This was not a new alliance but the restoration of an ancient one.
      2) The Éothéod rode for hundreds of miles to come aid Gondor without any knowledge or expectation that Gondor would grant them the lands that would become Rohan.
      3) The two kingdoms were often attacked simultaneously, making it difficult for either to come to the aid of the other.
      4) I don't know if this was the only time before the War of the Ring than an army from Rohan came to Gondor's aid but there was the Battle of the Crossings of Poros when an army of Rohan went to Ithilien to aid Gondor against an invasion of the Haradwaith.

  • @sephalo6611
    @sephalo6611 Год назад

    So I assume the name Helm's Deep comes from the time of that harsh winter where he died? I always assumed he died fighting inside! :-o

  • @carbineZDH1
    @carbineZDH1 Год назад

    Did anybody else get that old spice commercial?

  • @davec.8406
    @davec.8406 9 месяцев назад

    "Let the horn sound in the deep"

  • @ahangaran5626
    @ahangaran5626 Год назад

    7:36 And since then the dark door is known as Baldor's Gate. 😁

  • @amckay003
    @amckay003 Год назад +2

    I've never been this early to comment on a video before!