Been running an EB70 for 2 weeks at home now with my 30L 12v fridge fed by Bluetti's 200w panel. The past 3 days have been almost entirely overcast (I'm in Western, cloudy, Washington state) and even then I get between 31 to 62 watts in, against 27 to 29 watts out from the fridge when the compressor is running, which is not often. It's pretty much indefinite with this combo.
@@Jasonoid It's pretty great. Even if there's partial sun once or twice a day, there's no question or challenge. I was worried about those truly dark days but I think they'd be fine as well... I'm talking about really dark, heavy drizzle-filled cloud days which I've not experienced yet. But Based on the past two weeks, even if it wasn't "indefinite" with this 200w panel it'd be close. It'll all depend obviously on how often the compressor is kicking in, but if your fridge is like most, chances are you're fine unless you're camping in a cave.
I've been going back and forth soooooo many times a system for our needs. Your video really hit the nail on the head for us. I think the EB70S is a great option for our needs. Thank you!
Thanks again Jason! Running my IceCo VL45 off the EB70. Re-charging the EB70 with either; SUV roof fixed 180 watt BougeRV solar panel, Bluetti SP200 portable solar panel, 1000 watt Bestek pure sine wave inverter/Bluetti 200 watt charger, and Amazon just dropped off the 12vdc to 24vdc converter. I use a DPDT knife switch to switch between SUV 12vdc charging and solar connections to the EB70. Fun stuff going on in my "mobile lab". Thank you again for your videos, I have learned and continue learning. Getting used to my EB70 "quirks & features too ;-)
Very easy to operate, started on the first pull.Only wish a wheel kit was available as an option to add with this model choice. But, not a deal breaker as you can see with this improvised addition.
14:00 exactly. As long as it's functional; I didn't care about the complaints. I'm not watching this thing for hours; "I set it and forget it". I opted not to do the DC Hack; I decided to set my VL45 PRO on the lightest Frig mode to stretch out the battery. It worked fine this way.
I just got a Bluetti EB70 and it's great. 700 watt inverter. Has 4 A/C outlets, one regulated 12V cig outlet, 2 5.1mm barrel outlets, several USB-A and 2 USB-C outlets. I also bought a Baldr 120 watt folding solar panel to use with it, works great!
I feel only truly "waterproof" solar panels are glass rigid panels, but the Baldr should be able to withstand some rain... Just don't let the junction box on the back get wet (this is the case for all portable panels with USB junctions boxes).
That’s the video I’ve been wanting to see amazing video I believe first test like this on RUclips with the eb70 plugged in with a solar panel and a big fridge. Awesome man great detail and talks on number because numbers don’t lie.
I'm all about real world performance, the big channels just give specs, gotta prove if it's good or not. Stick around for other awesome videos I have coming out soon, you'll enjoy them.
@@Jasonoid I just starting watching your channel for the first time with the VL60 pro video and I’ve been hooked. Your killing it brother great details and real world test. Thank you 🙏🏼
Very nice review of the EB 70 powering your fridge. This comment is where I would ask questions about the set-up, but you covered all the bases. Now I just need to review your coverage of the ICECO VL60 Pro 12v fridge. Will go check that out now. Thanks ! ! RH
Got the review video out on my channel, it's a great fridge! I also have other cheaper fridge review videos if you don't want to spend quite that much money.
Many thanks for yet another helpful video on the EB70. You're original video is pretty much the go to for anyone needing info on the Bluetti EB70. I definitely need mount a solar panel to my truck camper. Just spent a week on the road with EB70 powering a 40 liter, 12 DC truck fridge with a Danfoss-Secop compressor. No solar panel input for the trip - but I was able to rely on a Goal Zero Regulated Lithium Yeti Car Charger set its 5 amp setting as my sole charging source. It has a 10 amp setting, but I don't like how hot the charging unit gets at that setting At the 5 amp setting the input wattage on the Bluetti shows to be 73 watts max. The Goal Zero / Yeti charger definitely did the trick - provided that I drove about 4 hours per day. By the way, Bluetti's provided cigarette socket to 8mm barrel charging cable is way too short for my use. Bottom line to all of the above: The Goal Zero regulated lithium battery car charger is a plug and play alternative to a solar panel.
I have a question about this, please. Can I simply plug a Bluetti EB70 into any 12V socket in my Roadtrek van/RV to power it as I drive? I don't need a Goal Zero Regulated Lithium Yeti Car Charger, do I?
@@juliava605 Yes - use the provided adapter cord provided by Bluetti and fingers crossed, you'll see a charge rate of around 90 watts. - Unfortunately, the provided cord was way too short for my needs.
Really liked your review on the EB70S,,especially the 24v charging hack,,I just purchased one yesterday,your video's helped alot,I was undecided ,EB55 vs EB70S,,both really good reviews..going to be using it in my rv,,and share the existing solar,when needed,,
The EB70 has more usable power, and I like it a little bit more. It's not priced that much more than the EB55. I don't use wall charging on these so the EB55 isn't 'better' for me with it's dual charging.
My EB70 has been tucked away in my van, connected to a 100w panel mounted on the roof for 2 years, its my dedicated power source for the fridge and the fridge is always cold, i don't even think about it anymore
I have a review video about all the features and power consumption on my channel. The jist is 75 degrees is around 12 watts average, 85 degrees is around 25 watts or so, 95 or higher the compressor runs almost all the time.... Not quite all the time but close. Keep the fridge in the shade and it helps a lot. If you have the fridge set to eco mode it won't ever pull more than 38 watts because that's the max the compressor will pull on ECO mode 100% running. Max mode will pull 58 watts as it runs.
Awesome! Just watched it. I’d really like to upgrade to one of these fridges for my overland rig. Thanks for all the hard work on these fridge reviews.
@@mostrong Thanks! I'll be doing a comparison on all 8 of my ICECO fridges soon so subscribe so you don't miss that video! You'll see all of them at once, power usage numbers, and features and downsides...i hope I can make the video quick and effective. Lots of info to cover haha!
@@Jasonoid Hello, I recently got a VL45 ProS and I noticed that the compressor runs for about 25 minutes out of every hour. Does this seem excessive, I think it does but am not fully sure if this is normal or not.
Yes, the EB55 will easily get you through the night and if solar is good the next day, it will charge back up to 100%. That would be an excellent combo.
I have a VL45 ProS fridge , and a Jackery 500 with a 60 watt Jackery solar panel in my jeep.. now with fridge on eco mode and 34 degrees , it will run forever like that. The jackery charges at 45 watts and the fridge uses 23 watts , so it runs the fridge and charges the jackery at the same time , and at night it uses the battery down to about 60% then recharges the battery during the day . Now if no sun , no problem the jackery has pass threw charging , so i plug the jackery into my jeep and then my fridge plugged into the jackery and that (without running vehicle will last about 4 days ( i have a odyssey 1000 amp hour battery in my jeep ) as my starter battery . So between my jeep and solar you can run the fridge indefinitely and never have to run vehicle ..
It's a fun experiment. It's great to do a test run on a fridge like this so you know if you have the power to run it and the capability to charge it up properly. Thanks for watching!
You can have the inverter in the back of the vehicle like you said rather than those clamps and go straight to the battery with a fuse and just latest thing in the back and plug it in and a charge
That would work great for sure! I have installed a direct connection to my battery in the back of my 4runner with 6awg wire. It works great to charge power stations, run an inverter and power 12v fridges while driving. So many options for sure.
Just stumbled across this video. Just purchased my EB70 and a similar 12v to 24v hack as in the video but can’t find the rest of the build parts you referenced in the video for the 12v to 24v hack. But can’t wait to get this setup going with my ICECO fridge
thanks I have 200 watts on the roof of my truck cap and a 80 ah deep cycle lead acid hooked up to my truck and solar and it runs the fridge with no problem and it charges my wife's 350w solar generator and a 100wsolor generator, all ways have a charge for her cpap(every thing charges on solar and the truck battery 9cell phones always get charged from the cig lighter in the truck)if you only have cellphones ?all you need is your car/truck cig lighter;;you do not need any solar;and this is the first I saw the dc to dc adapter; thanks for this info,ill be getten one;;great job
edit - oops didn't notice that this was made 2mo ago. Victron makes several marine grade dc-dc converters(comes with BT, too)/ Thanks for doing an IRL use case. Aside from product placement the Bibene would have shown a more detailed SOC. It sucks that for the money these batteries don't allow more flexible input. IE, support for up to 48V input or maintaining max charge at below 13V. I still haven't researched into why was seeing sub 80W charge during a recent roadtrip. I suspect that my 12V car battery was fully charged & the "smart" alternator was napping. See...13V->80W 12.7V->60W WTF if I was actually approaching the campsite rather than home.
It is a good thing that we're not doing the drinking game, when Jason says "8 AMP Limit" ... (many times)... which I'm glad he did, because that is important. Bluetti... WHY did you do this just an 8 AMP Limit? Come on now... I am not as "Blond" as you think I am... I have been a Chemical Engineer in the Oil Field, (Down hole drilling fluids) and I have be an Architect and Mechanical Draftsperson... This is why I know that Jason KNOWS what he is saying. Don't 'let the Blond fool you.
@@Jasonoid SERISOUSLY... I do too... just an UPGRADE from the BLUETTI EB70 I am ready to buy. Thank YOU Jason for all your experience & great knowledge of this subject... God BLESS YOU
@@Jasonoid Yes... and what bothers me, is that what you pointed out should have been corrected before they even made the EB70... Come on now Bluetti A simple button to turn it on and off... what is with this 8 Amps? I love Bluetii... I want to BUY the (upgraded one)... Like now.
We spent a month in Az with the 500x and iceco as a freezer no problem only had to put it in the truck and take it for a ride once. Looking forward to giving the bluetti the same test.
You hit the spot on this item Jason, I have a much better understanding of this device and will apply what I have learned. Any advantage to using two 200w panels compared to one 200w and one 100w panel for cloudy days.
Using two 200 watts panels might just cost you extra cash vs using one 200 watt + one 100 watt panel. It depends how many clouds you see in your area. Are you going with rigid or portable panels? I have mostly sunny skies so I doubt using 400 watts would be worth it for me. Having 300 would work fine in my area.
Jasonoid Thanks Jason, I know I asked this question yesterday on AskIve and you answered I just wanted to confirm with you again I'm knew at the solar game so don't want to take any chances. I will purchase a 100w panel to go with the 200w panel both hard panels and run them parallel. It gets very hot where I am but I'm noticing this year a lot of clouds during the day humidity stays low but the clouds are much more than last year. Thank you very much I appreciate all your videos.
@@ulysses8859 If you want to wait to purchase your panels, I will give it another test this weekend to verify there aren't any issues with 300 watts on the EB70. Just to give you some reassurance.
Jasonoid Wow! Yeah Jason! I would so appreciate that. I am planning to purchase another Rich solar panel at the end of the month. Thank you so much, I will wait for your test.
@@ulysses8859 so my understanding cause I’m new to solar also and I bought a eb70. If you want to you can hook a higher wattage of solar panel to cover for the cloudy day ? And it would not break the eb70 ? You would just lose the energy when it is couldy ? If I get it right
Excellent review BUT ..... 1. IT IS JULY all data based on summer sun 2. Running car with gas prices not feasible 3. Propane generator I think better than gas ?? Trying to force a small battery bank like eb70 to handle something as important as fridge won't work. Food is $ Ps ...I ran 5000 btu s/c today with eb70 Ya Has soft startup do started with fan only then a/c Strange Using eb240. A/c shows 453. Watts Using eb70 about 300 watts ??
Thanks for your insights and thoughts. Totally agree with your summer sun statement. But I use these small 12v fridges while camping and when the power is out to hold my food. These 12v fridges are EXTREMELY efficient and don't use power like a normal home refrigerator so it's fine to run them off the EB70. You should look into getting one for camping and emergencies. I'm talking 12-33 watts average power draw over an hour. ICECO also has reliable Secop compressors in their fridges... I still get lots of sun in the winter where I live but it is definitely better in the summer. Portable panels can tilt and rotate as the sun moves so you can still get good power. You just have to be willing to move the panels around in the cold. As for alternate ways of charging the battery, sure a propane generator is more efficient but a gas one will work just fine. A small 1000 watt generator on ECO mode sips gas! Running the car engine in a PINCH is also okay because a idling engine uses hardly any gas compared to driving down the road. Obviously the BEST way to charge up the EB70 is via solar panels, but that part of the video was about when solar wasn't available. Thanks for watching, it's good to hear others experiences with these portable power stations!
As long as you can get it filled up during the day, it will run overnight no issues. It just a simple cycle of trying to get it charged the next day. Usually the only battle while camping is with clouds or shade from trees.
Great presentation, this is the one I’m getting seems 200 watts solar would be plenty ,I was going to get the 200 W solar from Bluetti what do you recommend if I’m planning on camping long term
You can save some money going with some other budget panels, if you need a more wateroroof setup I'd go with the flexible sunpower panels. Check out my channel for TWO videos. I have an 11 solar panel comparison video from a month back, and a Budget solar panel video to use with power stations. Those will give you some guidance.
I bought something like this, then attached Anderson powerpole connectors to the opposite side. I recently put out a video on Anderson powerpole connectors too. www.amazon.com/Extension-Adapter-Extender-Security-Network/dp/B08L6LJ5F4/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=5521+barrel+plug&qid=1626494323&sprefix=5521+barrel&sr=8-8 Does that info help? Also did the same with my fridge power cable, cut off the 12v plug and put Anderson powerpole on it. I hate those 12v plugs... Haha
@@Jasonoid Yes I hate them to. I wish someone would build a power station with a different 12 volt output, something like the Anderson or xt60 connectors.
9:51 Are those 50 watt SunPower panels good for permanent setup? Edit: Never mind. You answered someone already regarding that: "Being super light weight, waterproof and with MC4 connections they are super nice to use! Still not perfect for leaving out in the sun forever, I had a day at 107F this last week during testing and the panels were "very flexible" because the plastic was so HOT! I think I would still go for a regular rigid glass panel for "everyday" outdoor use."
@@TTTT-rc4fv 9:43 I think his are the newer ones if I remember correctly. But even if not, I'd assume he would still classify it into the non-permanent category.
Awesome video! Thanks for posting informative content. I have a question about the system i have planned. I plan on powering an Iceco VL45 ProS with a Bluetti EB70S. I plan on charging the EB70S with my car battery while driving. I’m thinking of wiring up a Blue Sea Systems accessory panel with a 12v cigarette lighter outlet with a inline 15a fuse to the car battery and have it installed in the truck bed next to the fridge. Then using your 12v-24v converter idea from that accessory panel to the EB70S. Is that a sound system or am I overlooking something?
It will work great! I'd suggest at least 100 watts of solar. Also, don't forget my discount code for the ICECO, save 12% off the total price on any fridge.
If i left the EB70 charging in the boot of my car from my 12v aux socket. Will the EB70 stop charging if my car battery drops below a certain value?To protect my car battery. Also if the EB70 is in boot of car. And the temperature drops below 0C 32F . does the internal BMS shut down charging/discharging . As i have read that LifePo4 batteries can be permanently damaged at below freezing.
Loved you video. I'm wanting to run a 2.6 cubic foot Magic Chef AC fridge of the Bluetti EB70S. How long do you think it would run without charging.? Can I charge the Bluetti with two 400 watt flexible solar panels if I hook them in parallel mode without harming the Bluetti? Like the portable flexible panels because of light weight and I can fix them to my DIY promaster camper or use them portable. A penny for your thoughts.
The EB70 would probably work with the small fridge but it would use much more power than these 12v DC powered fridges. I haven't ever tested one of those mini fridges so I can't get you an estimated run time. You'd probably be better off going with a larger power station. Concerning your solar question, thats a lot of solar panels (800 watts) for a power station that will only accept 160 watts input. I'd either recommend just a 200 watt panel for the EB70, or I'd go with one of the larger power stations so you can actually use the full 800 watts. The new EcoFlow Delta 2 has been really impressive with my testing, it's a little larger and charges with more solar panels. Review will be out this next Friday.
Great Video, just put an ICECO VL45 Pro with an SOK 100ah battery in my truck. Using a CTEK D250SE to charge, was wondering if 100 watt panel would be enough. This video makes me think I should be fine. My next question is, how does the gauge of wire (voltage drop) effect my solar panel input efficiency.
Excellent setup! I like the sok batteries! 12 awg wire should be fine for up to 20 amps, voltage drop will be minimal for that setup. I have run 50 feet of 12 awg wire and didn't notice much loss in power. The MPPT charge controllers do pretty good with any voltage.
Maaaan. I want one of those little 50 watt panels so bad. I just love that form factor. And honestly, I dont like the 100 watt one, just seems like too much to manage with the flex on it. If they made like a 60 or 80 watt, that would be perfect.
Being super light weight, waterproof and with MC4 connections they are super nice to use! Still not perfect for leaving out in the sun forever, I had a day at 107F this last week during testing and the panels were "very flexible" because the plastic was so HOT! I think I would still go for a regular rigid glass panel for "everyday" outdoor use.
i have a weird issue with a jackery 240 on my deep freezer, it runs at about 35w but when i plug in my bluetti it pulls 80w and i hear the compressor. jackery is rated for 200w constant draw. whats up? i htink im going to empty freezer and do some tests so i dont spoil food.
Could I use a 200W mono panel with about 21Vmp and 9A mp? It's under the 28V max imput of the EB70, but too many Amps? Or the EB70 would only draw 8Amps out of the 9A? No damage to EB70? Plus, the panels never really get to full power do they? Always some clouds or limiting factors...
Probably add a few more watts to the average power usage, not by much. If you left the lid open for awhile that would affect it more. One nice thing about having the lid on top is the cold air doesn't flow out like a side opening fridge.
hey mate great review. but I have a question. can you use the station while its being charged by solar or wall socket? so that the fridge can keep getting powered? that's probably my biggest concern. cheers!
Yep, that one of the best ways to power a 12v fridge with this power station. You can charge the power station off solar or your car. Then run the fridge off the power station.
The question comes to mind is why couldn't you just use a inverter in your lighter 120 and plug in the charger like you would at home? I'm new to this solar stuff so maybe I'm wrong. But it seems logical to me. Please let me know. Thanks for all of your information on this! I just got my EB70 and a renegy 100 what panel. Thanks
The wall charger pulls 198 watts, which is too much for a 12v socket in a vehicle. It would blow a fuse. You can charge the EB70 power station with the included 12v cig cable in your car.
I'm looking at one of these EB70 and maybe getting a panel to go with it. I was looking at the sunpower that you had in the video and I'm wondering about the 100W that they have available, but wasn't sure what the connector you had to go with it. Can you link that for me? Great video!
I enjoyed watching your video I have some similar equipment are your Balder panels weather resistant? Is it alright to leave them out during a twenty minute summer shower while I am on the trail ??
They are weather resistant, just don't let water get to that junction box on the back. You can leave them out all day, just not for weeks and weeks, they aren't designed for permanent use.
Hi Jason! I’m new in your channel. Thank you for sharing so good knowledge! I’m about to buy one portable power station to run my 43l 12v camping fridge and I’m wondering if the Eb3a does the job with a 200w solar panel… Can you help me with that? Cheers!!!
I recommend at least a 500wh power station for running a 12v fridge. The EB3A will work but it's a bit small, only having 268wh. The battery won't last as long so I'm not sure on a hot night in the summer if the battery will get you through the night.
Dear sir, I have bought a bluetti ac200 Max and haven't gotten a proper answer from the company. I am in Australia (240 volts) and currently have the ac200 Max connected to the mains power. (To keep it topped up for loss of power . Having permanently plugged in will it affect the viability of the batteries. I am also about to link up 3x 300 w panels as the Max input is 900w. ?? SERIES OF PARRALEL would be best. I'm an old fart and I think I have kangaroos in the top paddock. Please help with some advice please.
This video will teach about connecting solar panels properly to that model. Give it a watch and let me know if you have any questions: ruclips.net/video/4JG8LvJznLY/видео.html
I will have a teardrop camper with an onboard lithium battery. The solar options are kind of limited because we’ll have the camper in the shade here in the South. But we have the Bluetti AC200P solar generator. Is there a way to run from the Bluetti into the shore power hookup (which recharges the onboard battery)? Some have told me this would be very inefficient. It would sure be nice to have the 2000 watt Bluetti to serve as a means to recharge the lithium battery. Thanks for this video! Very informative. All the best.
If your main goal is to recharge your onboard lithium battery using AC power, you'll need to purchase an affordable AC LiFePO4 charger. Then you can chose to run that charger off the AC200p or the shore power to charge up the onboard battery. I'm assuming its a LiFePO4 battery? What size and brand is it? That will help determine the size of charger you'll need.
I want to use the Bluetti AC200P to recharge the onboard lithium battery (Dragonfly 100 amp hour 12 volt LifePO4) directly. The shore power input to the onboard battery apparently recharges the battery also. Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. I’m learning.
The battery is housed behind a panel in the teardrop and the shore power receptacle is on the side of the camper. Normally an extension cord would connect to the campsite power source. This power input runs the refrigerator (and other stuff) and recharges the battery too.
@@michaelworsham174 You can pick up a charger similar to this: amzn.to/3qQ5hxW ...I have not tested this model in particular so I'm not saying to this one exactly, just find one similar that works for you. Basically you need to find an AC wall charger designed for LiFePO4 (10 to 20 amps at least). You would plug this charger into your AC200p and run it off the inverter to charge up your house battery.
The ac300 offers 240v output if you put two of them in series, so kinda like a split phase home 240v output. Probably near 100% of US auto and marine use 12v. I understand the benefits to 24v but it's just not something that's been adopted in the US
Yeah, the only issue is that most cigarette ports in cars don't handle 25 amps, usually 12 amps is the max, which is around 180 watts (12voltx25amps=300 watts), so you'd have to connect the inverter directly to your battery. It would still work though.
You'll want to wire those solar panels in parallel and they will work just fine, you'll see around 150w to 170w input with those panels due to the limitations of the EB70 charge controller. Do not wire the panels in series or it will damage the power station.
What also works well to charge while driving: Plug a 300w pure sine inverter into your car's 12v "cigarette" socket and then plug the Bluetti's 230v "charger" into the inverter. This works a treat with my little PowerOak PS6 and my larger PowerOak PS7. (poweroak.eu/de/powerbanks/10054-poweroak-poweroak-ps7-1000wh-solar-ac-dc-generator-8719324080569.html)
Thanks for the tip! That is probably the best way to charge it off a vehicle if you already have an decent pure sine wave inverter! Man....I tried to cover everything but I always leave out something haha
Can this unit be charged up by the cars 12v outlet and solar panel up top at the same time? Or does it only support one at a time? Thank you for these awesome videos!
The EB70 can only be charged by one input at a time, either the AC adapter, solar, or the 12v charger. However the EB55 (review on my channel) supports dual charging up to 400 watts!
Hey, a quick question: you said that too high solar voltage will fry the board, aren't there onboard safety mechanisms to shut off the incoming power to prevent any damage? I found a portable panel with Voc 28.35V; Isc 8.72A; Vmp 25.04V; Imp 8.00A. The Vmp and Imp seems to be perfect for EB70, however the Voc is slightly over. Do you think it would be safe to run this panel on an EB70? Thanks!
Thats a great question Arnolds. I haven't tested putting a higher voltage on the EB70. I know a guy who connected two 12v panels in series into his EB70 and it didn't throw a warning, it just burned up his EB70 control board. Maybe having an input voltage just barely over the 28volts isn't as bad as connecting in 40+ volts like he did... Sometimes the best way is just to test it out but there are always risks of damage.
Great Review. Really interested in getting a DC to DC adapter for redundancy. Thanks for sharing. Question! Did you have any issues connection your fridge to the EB70's cigarette lighter port. I noticed my ICECO 20 would not work when I had it plugged into the DC cigarette lighter. It would power the instrument panel of the fridge but it would not run the compressor to cool down the fridge. The fridge worked fine when plugged into my vehicles DC so the cable is good. I need to plug in something else into the Bluetti's cigarette port to confirm whether good or bad.
Any error codes on the screen of the fridge? E3, E1? I tested about 6 different fridges and I they all ran just fine. Another option could be to use the AC to DC adapter off the inverter to run the fridge.
@@Jasonoid i think i have the same issue with a jackery 240 on my deep freezer, it runs at about 35w but when i plug in my bluetti it pulls 80w and i hear the compressor. jackery is rated for 200w constant draw. whats up?
Just found your channel and subscribed. Great advice. Was wondering, I have 2 x 110ah leisure batteries (Lead acid) that I charge using a split charger while driving, if I had too, could I charge the EB70 from them via a 12v/24v step up as a short term measure? Low sun conditions etc.. Many thanks.
Hey Mike, welcome to the channel! Yeah, the EB70 will take in 10-28 volts in order to charge the battery so you shouldn't have any issues charging it up.
How does running a fridge in a hot car affect the power draw? If you park your car in full sun and it gets like 40C degrees in there, can the solar panels keep up?
When temps are above 40C the fridge has to run much more often. Expect less runtime the hotter it is. You'd want to max out the solar charging so you can keep it running in hot weather (160watts).
Do you have a link to the cable you used and spliced into the Iceco 12v cable by chance? Do you know if that plug comes in a 90* version so its not sticking straight out? It looks like you added anderson power poles plugs as well? The cigarette plug the factory cable comes with is trash, but i was worried about cutting it up and splicing something else not being able to handle the power load, have you had issues with that at all?
How you doing sir I’m thinking of buying the same power station and the solar panel I think you should read it and waterproof a long as I buy the same one and I could put one after another with the same app I don’t know too much about that can you write me back and send me a link or the ones that you bought I really got to fishing picnic but if you could guide me somewhere The race solar panel to buy that will last me for a long time thank you
You can't go wrong with the EB70 or EB55, both are excellent power stations. Check out the solar panel videos on my channel for guidance on which one will work best for you.
Closer view on my EB70 review, I show how it's built. It has Anderson connections on both ends. One side is input, one side is output. 12awg wire is all that's needed.... But I use those alligator clamps for my 30 amp charger as well.
I'd go with the BougeRV 200 watt 9bb panel. I also have a discount code on my website to take down the price around 13%. Jasonoid.com > discount code page
I had mine laying around from an old charger, I just cut it off and put APP on the end. The barrel ports on the EB70 are 5521 ports, my pigtail is a 5525 and it rocks a bit, either will work on these but a 5521 will be more snug.
Thank You for your info. I just started using my EB70 and am pretty happy with it. However I don't understand why to use or not use ECO mode. Can You enlighten me?
If you have Eco mode enabled it shuts off the AC inverter or DC output after 4 hours if it doesn't sense a big enough load. If you have a small load on the inverter or DC outputs, sometimes ECO mode can mistakenly shutoff the power station early when you don't want it to. In my opinion it's best to leave ECO mode disabled and just turn off the outputs when you don't use them. It doesn't do anything else to save power.
Excellent video, my EB70 is on the way...the converter really caught my attention but I can't find which previous video includes the "build" you have mentioned here...what is the title of that video? Thanks!!
If you were running your fridge in the car, would you plug into the car or the Bluetti? Just wondering, because I'm not sure if my alternator could charge the Bluetti and run my 40L fridge. I was thinking to plug the Bluetti into the car and the fridge into the Bluetti.
I would plug in my power station to my vehicle, and then run my fridge off my power station. That way when I went to shut off my engine to get gas or food, the fridge will keep running off the power station. Your car alternator will handle the load of the power station and fridge just fine. It's under 10amps of draw and most alternators can handle 25 to 35 amps of accessories.
Can you do a video on a Dorm size mini fridge? I'm trying to figure my set up out, My mini fridge is hooked up to a 1500 watt power inverter and straight to my car battery with a 100 watt soler panel, it tends to power off over night, I'm thinking about getting a second battery or should I just get a second solar panel? Or maybe both are a car battery charger with a extra inverter? 🤯
Mini fridges use MUCH more power than these 12v fridges (ICECO, Dometic, ARB, Engel just to name a few good brands). You'd be better off getting a more efficient fridge and then the next step would be a bigger battery with more power storage.
i would like to overspec solar panel setup. e.g. they are capable of producing 300watt. the battery can only take 200 watts and most of the time these panels will not exceed 200 because of various factors, hence overspeccing but on these days and moments where they do exceed 200 watts how can i protect the battery? i will want to connect a charge controller in between the panels and the battery? a dc to dc converter? or is the circuitry present in the eb70? how would you go about connecting 3 100w panels in parallel? voltages etc and connecting pieces
I made a video for this question: ruclips.net/video/4JG8LvJznLY/видео.html Overpaneling is fine, the EB70 will limit the amperage input to 8 amps, never go over the voltage limit. 12v panels in parallel will work great.
Hey Jessie, I don't have a video on it but you can find a few 5521 adapters on Amazon that may work for your needs. I just bought a 5521 adapter and then soldered setup the other end with Anderson PowerPole connections as I use those for most of my setup.
Yes, the EB55 and EB70 both pull a little over 200 watts while using the AC charging. You'll most likely need direct wiring from your starter battery to run a 300 watt inverter.
I've read most of the replies up to this point B4 composing the following: I've purchased the Bestek 300W inverter that inverts dc voltage into ac voltage. I've run a power cord directly from the battery into the passenger compartment of my vehicle so I'm not using my vehicle's cigarette lighter or any of its computers. The power cord terminates with a female cigarette lighter. If I decide to buy an EB70 to use during long power outages, I'll be able to charge it from inside my vehicle with ac voltage, I'll plug the EB70 into my Bestek 300W inverter & charge the EB70 with ac voltage instead of dc voltage. This is a "trick" I learned from Hobotech. Inside my apt, I would use the EB70's dc power cord to my Engel Freezer that runs on ac or dc power. THE trick was getting the power cord through the firewall of my vehicle. The firewalls on Toyoto's is knowing the ONE place where a plug can be removed that opens a 1" hole in the firewall.
Using an AC inverter is a great way to get full charging power into your power station, but like you mentioned you have to hard wire your vehicle because the standard 12v socket won't handle 200 watts.... I am puzzled why the bestek 300watt inverter comes with a 12v socket?!... Beats me since it pulls more power than most 12v sockets can Handel. I cut off my 12v socket and installed Anderson PP connections! Awesome job on that project. I did the same with my 4runner, I ran 8awg wire to the back driver side and installed a whole custom panel for powering/charging devices. Thanks for sharing!
@@Jasonoid the Bestek 300W inverter has a male cigarette lighter that plugs into the female receptacle. The back of the Bestek has two 110 AC sockets and a couple of small USB ports. I'd plug the EB70's ac plug into a receptacle on the back of the Bestek 300W inverter. No need for solar panels when using a Bestek 300W dc to ac inverter.
@@Jasonoid We can both share a laugh because we both know the time & effort we had to expend to get that power cord from the battery through the firewall.
I saw the one you had outside we’re 50 and 50 Should I get 100 200 that’s the one I like like the one you got outside I don’t go camping what do you recommend this is my first power station and solar power or 2 50s what I really like I like I said before 200 and put them together like the one you got in the backyard the same company
For camping I like to recommend a folding panel. My favorite right now is the XTAR SP100 (check out my review). For a solar panel that sits outside all the time, it's best to use a glass rigid 200 watt panel for simplicity.
@@Jasonoid Thank you I just need something to be charging that thing at a park or something should I just get 100 or 200 Ridge it I know I’m a pain in the neck that’s my cousins
As long as they are hooked together in parallel those panels will work great on the EB55 and EB70! The EB power stations dont support panels put in series, the voltage is too high and will damage them.
I’m confused should Rigid solar panel or blueitt I don’t go camping I might go to the park or I might go to a coffee shop or I might be in my backyard but not something big maybe 200 Rigid or the name of the store Blueitt I want the solar panel to Last a long time thank you
I like glass rigid panels because they are durable and last 25 years for producing solar power. Portable panels only last 3 to 5 years since they aren't as strong. It all depends if you need something portable or not. A 100 watt glass rigid panel might work great since they aren't that big and heavy.
Hi Jason do you have a video on the build of that 12v to 24v with the alligator clips ? Also if it puts out 10amps and the eb70s has a 8 amp limit what n happens to the extra 2 amps? I have a pv120s do you think if i bought a secong one i could conect to charge it faster ?
You'll see a very small increase of power adding a second pv120 solar panel. I wouldn't recommend it. This is a boost converter that will work well for faster car charging, it will last much longer and won't get near as hot if you purchase one that's larger like this: amzn.to/4cFl6xm If you have 10 amps available from solar, the power station will only pull the max power it can, 8 amps, the other two amps just aren't used.
Compressor pulls around 35 watts when running, but it only runs about 30% of the time, this one is very efficient. I have a video on it here: ruclips.net/video/ou8r_Ur1pmk/видео.html
Been running an EB70 for 2 weeks at home now with my 30L 12v fridge fed by Bluetti's 200w panel. The past 3 days have been almost entirely overcast (I'm in Western, cloudy, Washington state) and even then I get between 31 to 62 watts in, against 27 to 29 watts out from the fridge when the compressor is running, which is not often. It's pretty much indefinite with this combo.
Thanks for sharing your experience to confirm the combo!
@@Jasonoid It's pretty great. Even if there's partial sun once or twice a day, there's no question or challenge. I was worried about those truly dark days but I think they'd be fine as well... I'm talking about really dark, heavy drizzle-filled cloud days which I've not experienced yet. But Based on the past two weeks, even if it wasn't "indefinite" with this 200w panel it'd be close. It'll all depend obviously on how often the compressor is kicking in, but if your fridge is like most, chances are you're fine unless you're camping in a cave.
@@therealchickentender totally agree :) Now to find a way to get a full 200 watts out of my EB70....I got some ideas haha
@@Jasonoid Waiting on that share. :D
(Bottom line: I'm super happy with this thing and consider it a bargain)
What panels are you using?
I've been going back and forth soooooo many times a system for our needs. Your video really hit the nail on the head for us. I think the EB70S is a great option for our needs. Thank you!
Thanks again Jason! Running my IceCo VL45 off the EB70. Re-charging the EB70 with either; SUV roof fixed 180 watt BougeRV solar panel, Bluetti SP200 portable solar panel, 1000 watt Bestek pure sine wave inverter/Bluetti 200 watt charger, and Amazon just dropped off the 12vdc to 24vdc converter. I use a DPDT knife switch to switch between SUV 12vdc charging and solar connections to the EB70. Fun stuff going on in my "mobile lab". Thank you again for your videos, I have learned and continue learning. Getting used to my EB70 "quirks & features too ;-)
Very easy to operate, started on the first pull.Only wish a wheel kit was available as an option to add with this model choice. But, not a deal breaker as you can see with this improvised addition.
14:00 exactly. As long as it's functional; I didn't care about the complaints. I'm not watching this thing for hours; "I set it and forget it". I opted not to do the DC Hack; I decided to set my VL45 PRO on the lightest Frig mode to stretch out the battery. It worked fine this way.
I just got a Bluetti EB70 and it's great. 700 watt inverter. Has 4 A/C outlets, one regulated 12V cig outlet, 2 5.1mm barrel outlets, several USB-A and 2 USB-C outlets. I also bought a Baldr 120 watt folding solar panel to use with it, works great!
Thanks for sharing your experience! Great power station!
Baldr is water proof? Would you still recommend it? Or something else? I'm currently shopping for the best durable and affordable solar panels
I feel only truly "waterproof" solar panels are glass rigid panels, but the Baldr should be able to withstand some rain... Just don't let the junction box on the back get wet (this is the case for all portable panels with USB junctions boxes).
@@Jasonoid Well the Baldr is not meant for a permanent installation. Of course regular glass panels are better for that.
@@bluepill8077 No it's not, maybe a little splash but it's not meant for a wet application.
Itd be cool to see a test like this with a deep freezer. Alot of ppl would buy this to keep their deep freezers running in an extended power outage.
This won't power my full size fridge, but I have heard it works on smaller freezers. I don't have one to test with.
That’s the video I’ve been wanting to see amazing video I believe first test like this on RUclips with the eb70 plugged in with a solar panel and a big fridge. Awesome man great detail and talks on number because numbers don’t lie.
I'm all about real world performance, the big channels just give specs, gotta prove if it's good or not. Stick around for other awesome videos I have coming out soon, you'll enjoy them.
@@Jasonoid I just starting watching your channel for the first time with the VL60 pro video and I’ve been hooked. Your killing it brother great details and real world test. Thank you 🙏🏼
I'll be running this exact set up soon!!! Even got the red eb70!!! The dc hack is great!!! I'll be doing this soon.
Very nice review of the EB 70 powering your fridge. This comment is where I would ask questions about the set-up, but you covered all the bases. Now I just need to review your coverage of the ICECO VL60 Pro 12v fridge. Will go check that out now. Thanks ! ! RH
Got the review video out on my channel, it's a great fridge! I also have other cheaper fridge review videos if you don't want to spend quite that much money.
Really like how you test.Very clear and easy to understand.
Thanks, this video was a great experiment and I was happy with the results!
Many thanks for yet another helpful video on the EB70. You're original video is pretty much the go to for anyone needing info on the Bluetti EB70. I definitely need mount a solar panel to my truck camper.
Just spent a week on the road with EB70 powering a 40 liter, 12 DC truck fridge with a Danfoss-Secop compressor. No solar panel input for the trip - but I was able to rely on a Goal Zero Regulated Lithium Yeti Car Charger set its 5 amp setting as my sole charging source. It has a 10 amp setting, but I don't like how hot the charging unit gets at that setting At the 5 amp setting the input wattage on the Bluetti shows to be 73 watts max. The Goal Zero / Yeti charger definitely did the trick - provided that I drove about 4 hours per day. By the way, Bluetti's provided cigarette socket to 8mm barrel charging cable is way too short for my use.
Bottom line to all of the above: The Goal Zero regulated lithium battery car charger is a plug and play alternative to a solar panel.
Thanks for sharing your setup, man.... We need a forum for running fridges! People could share info back and forth so easily!
I have a question about this, please. Can I simply plug a Bluetti EB70 into any 12V socket in my Roadtrek van/RV to power it as I drive? I don't need a Goal Zero Regulated Lithium Yeti Car Charger, do I?
@@juliava605 Yes - use the provided adapter cord provided by Bluetti and fingers crossed, you'll see a charge rate of around 90 watts. - Unfortunately, the provided cord was way too short for my needs.
@@andrewinaustintx Thanks very much, Andrew.
Thanks for speaking to the parallel with regard to the rain and amps. Enjoyed that.
I'm not a solar expert but I do have experience with that specific topic so I thought I'd add it to this video :)
Really liked your review on the EB70S,,especially the 24v charging hack,,I just purchased one yesterday,your video's helped alot,I was undecided ,EB55 vs EB70S,,both really good reviews..going to be using it in my rv,,and share the existing solar,when needed,,
The EB70 has more usable power, and I like it a little bit more. It's not priced that much more than the EB55. I don't use wall charging on these so the EB55 isn't 'better' for me with it's dual charging.
My EB70 has been tucked away in my van, connected to a 100w panel mounted on the roof for 2 years, its my dedicated power source for the fridge and the fridge is always cold, i don't even think about it anymore
This is the video I've been waiting for!!!! You finally answered my most important question. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
This video was awesome. Just what I was looking for. Thanks
You're welcome!
If like to see more tests like this on that refrigerator in some hotter weather. Nice work!
I have a review video about all the features and power consumption on my channel. The jist is 75 degrees is around 12 watts average, 85 degrees is around 25 watts or so, 95 or higher the compressor runs almost all the time.... Not quite all the time but close. Keep the fridge in the shade and it helps a lot. If you have the fridge set to eco mode it won't ever pull more than 38 watts because that's the max the compressor will pull on ECO mode 100% running. Max mode will pull 58 watts as it runs.
Awesome! Just watched it. I’d really like to upgrade to one of these fridges for my overland rig. Thanks for all the hard work on these fridge reviews.
@@mostrong Thanks! I'll be doing a comparison on all 8 of my ICECO fridges soon so subscribe so you don't miss that video! You'll see all of them at once, power usage numbers, and features and downsides...i hope I can make the video quick and effective. Lots of info to cover haha!
@@Jasonoid Hello, I recently got a VL45 ProS and I noticed that the compressor runs for about 25 minutes out of every hour. Does this seem excessive, I think it does but am not fully sure if this is normal or not.
This is the type of test i needed, thanks ! I would think the EB55 and 200W solar will perform similar, less power but faster charging.
Yes, the EB55 will easily get you through the night and if solar is good the next day, it will charge back up to 100%. That would be an excellent combo.
I have a VL45 ProS fridge , and a Jackery 500 with a 60 watt Jackery solar panel in my jeep.. now with fridge on eco mode and 34 degrees , it will run forever like that. The jackery charges at 45 watts and the fridge uses 23 watts , so it runs the fridge and charges the jackery at the same time , and at night it uses the battery down to about 60% then recharges the battery during the day . Now if no sun , no problem the jackery has pass threw charging , so i plug the jackery into my jeep and then my fridge plugged into the jackery and that (without running vehicle will last about 4 days ( i have a odyssey 1000 amp hour battery in my jeep ) as my starter battery . So between my jeep and solar you can run the fridge indefinitely and never have to run vehicle ..
Love your experiment. It is something I want to do. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting.
It's a fun experiment. It's great to do a test run on a fridge like this so you know if you have the power to run it and the capability to charge it up properly. Thanks for watching!
You can have the inverter in the back of the vehicle like you said rather than those clamps and go straight to the battery with a fuse and just latest thing in the back and plug it in and a charge
That would work great for sure! I have installed a direct connection to my battery in the back of my 4runner with 6awg wire. It works great to charge power stations, run an inverter and power 12v fridges while driving. So many options for sure.
Excellent review, Jason
Thanks for the comment, appreciate it!
"Rigid" that's the word... not "Fixed" panels... Thanks Jason.
Quality review subbed my friend!
Just stumbled across this video. Just purchased my EB70 and a similar 12v to 24v hack as in the video but can’t find the rest of the build parts you referenced in the video for the 12v to 24v hack. But can’t wait to get this setup going with my ICECO fridge
This video goes over the details and parts are in the video description:
ruclips.net/video/_7l8hoNebDY/видео.html
I have the same setup. Use the cigarette lighter DC output and make sure your AC output is disabled. At 32F (fridge mode) I almost get 2 days.
DC output goes much longer :) Best case scenario is to have a 200w solar panel to get it charged as fast as possible.
Thanks Jason 🐾🐾
Great video very detailed thanks for sharing your knowledge
Glad it was helpful!
thanks I have 200 watts on the roof of my truck cap and a 80 ah deep cycle lead acid hooked up to my truck and solar and it runs the fridge with no problem and it charges my wife's 350w solar generator and a 100wsolor generator, all ways have a charge for her cpap(every thing charges on solar and the truck battery 9cell phones always get charged from the cig lighter in the truck)if you only have cellphones ?all you need is your car/truck cig lighter;;you do not need any solar;and this is the first I saw the dc to dc adapter; thanks for this info,ill be getten one;;great job
Sounds like a great setup! Thanks for sharing your rig with us! :D
Shared on the Bluetti private Facebook group.
Thank you my friend!
edit - oops didn't notice that this was made 2mo ago. Victron makes several marine grade dc-dc converters(comes with BT, too)/ Thanks for doing an IRL use case. Aside from product placement the Bibene would have shown a more detailed SOC. It sucks that for the money these batteries don't allow more flexible input. IE, support for up to 48V input or maintaining max charge at below 13V. I still haven't researched into why was seeing sub 80W charge during a recent roadtrip. I suspect that my 12V car battery was fully charged & the "smart" alternator was napping. See...13V->80W 12.7V->60W WTF if I was actually approaching the campsite rather than home.
I'd love to see a higher voltage input on these smaller power stations. At least 48volts so you can put panels in parallel without any issues.
It is a good thing that we're not doing the drinking game, when Jason says
"8 AMP Limit" ... (many times)... which I'm glad he did, because that is important.
Bluetti... WHY did you do this just an 8 AMP Limit? Come on now...
I am not as "Blond" as you think I am... I have been a Chemical Engineer in the Oil Field, (Down hole drilling fluids) and I have be an Architect and Mechanical Draftsperson...
This is why I know that Jason KNOWS what he is saying. Don't 'let the Blond fool you.
Haha, I hope bluetti sees these comments! Changes for the better!
@@Jasonoid
YES
Praise the Lord!!
@@Jasonoid
SERISOUSLY... I do too... just an UPGRADE from the BLUETTI EB70
I am ready to buy.
Thank YOU Jason for all your experience & great knowledge of this subject...
God BLESS YOU
@@Jasonoid
Yes... and what bothers me, is that what you pointed out should have been corrected before they even made the EB70... Come on now Bluetti
A simple button to turn it on and off... what is with this 8 Amps?
I love Bluetii... I want to BUY the (upgraded one)... Like now.
great vid.
We have iceco and bluetti eb70 also goal zero 500x can't wait to put it through the paces. 150watts of solar.
Thanks for sharing your setup, I'd love to hear how it goes!
We have 150watts of ridgid panels goal zero boulder panels
We spent a month in Az with the 500x and iceco as a freezer no problem only had to put it in the truck and take it for a ride once. Looking forward to giving the bluetti the same test.
You hit the spot on this item Jason, I have a much better understanding of this device and will apply what I have learned. Any advantage to using two 200w panels compared to one 200w and one 100w panel for cloudy days.
Using two 200 watts panels might just cost you extra cash vs using one 200 watt + one 100 watt panel. It depends how many clouds you see in your area. Are you going with rigid or portable panels?
I have mostly sunny skies so I doubt using 400 watts would be worth it for me. Having 300 would work fine in my area.
Jasonoid Thanks Jason, I know I asked this question yesterday on AskIve and you answered I just wanted to confirm with you again I'm knew at the solar game so don't want to take any chances. I will purchase a 100w panel to go with the 200w panel both hard panels and run them parallel. It gets very hot where I am but I'm noticing this year a lot of clouds during the day humidity stays low but the clouds are much more than last year. Thank you very much I appreciate all your videos.
@@ulysses8859 If you want to wait to purchase your panels, I will give it another test this weekend to verify there aren't any issues with 300 watts on the EB70. Just to give you some reassurance.
Jasonoid Wow! Yeah Jason! I would so appreciate that. I am planning to purchase another Rich solar panel at the end of the month. Thank you so much, I will wait for your test.
@@ulysses8859 so my understanding cause I’m new to solar also and I bought a eb70. If you want to you can hook a higher wattage of solar panel to cover for the cloudy day ? And it would not break the eb70 ? You would just lose the energy when it is couldy ? If I get it right
Excellent review
BUT .....
1. IT IS JULY all data based on summer sun
2. Running car with gas prices not feasible
3. Propane generator I think better than gas ??
Trying to force a small battery bank like eb70 to handle something as important as fridge won't work. Food is $
Ps ...I ran 5000 btu s/c today with eb70
Ya
Has soft startup do started with fan only then a/c
Strange
Using eb240. A/c shows 453. Watts
Using eb70 about 300 watts ??
Thanks for your insights and thoughts. Totally agree with your summer sun statement. But I use these small 12v fridges while camping and when the power is out to hold my food. These 12v fridges are EXTREMELY efficient and don't use power like a normal home refrigerator so it's fine to run them off the EB70. You should look into getting one for camping and emergencies. I'm talking 12-33 watts average power draw over an hour. ICECO also has reliable Secop compressors in their fridges...
I still get lots of sun in the winter where I live but it is definitely better in the summer. Portable panels can tilt and rotate as the sun moves so you can still get good power. You just have to be willing to move the panels around in the cold.
As for alternate ways of charging the battery, sure a propane generator is more efficient but a gas one will work just fine. A small 1000 watt generator on ECO mode sips gas! Running the car engine in a PINCH is also okay because a idling engine uses hardly any gas compared to driving down the road. Obviously the BEST way to charge up the EB70 is via solar panels, but that part of the video was about when solar wasn't available.
Thanks for watching, it's good to hear others experiences with these portable power stations!
thank you
That's why I like my goal zero display panel
I am obsessed with watching the power in and out.
I love running these fridges off solar, even while at home :)
Thanks Jason, based on this I am guessing my JP50 Pro will run close to indefinitely on my EB70S with PV120 solar panel!
As long as you can get it filled up during the day, it will run overnight no issues. It just a simple cycle of trying to get it charged the next day. Usually the only battle while camping is with clouds or shade from trees.
Great presentation, this is the one I’m getting seems 200 watts solar would be plenty ,I was going to get the 200 W solar from Bluetti what do you recommend if I’m planning on camping long term
You can save some money going with some other budget panels, if you need a more wateroroof setup I'd go with the flexible sunpower panels. Check out my channel for TWO videos. I have an 11 solar panel comparison video from a month back, and a Budget solar panel video to use with power stations. Those will give you some guidance.
Thank you for this! So 100w is enough for this kind of setup. I've been eyeing the 200w solar panel but it is too expensive.
If you have enough sun you can get by with a 100w panel. You just have to babysit the panel more often so it's in the sun as much as possible.
Pourquoi faut il autant de temps à charger par rapport à ses concurrents ? Merci pour la video
Would you please share the details on the 5521 Barrel connector power cord you made? Great idea!
I bought something like this, then attached Anderson powerpole connectors to the opposite side. I recently put out a video on Anderson powerpole connectors too.
www.amazon.com/Extension-Adapter-Extender-Security-Network/dp/B08L6LJ5F4/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=5521+barrel+plug&qid=1626494323&sprefix=5521+barrel&sr=8-8
Does that info help? Also did the same with my fridge power cable, cut off the 12v plug and put Anderson powerpole on it. I hate those 12v plugs... Haha
@@Jasonoid Yes I hate them to. I wish someone would build a power station with a different 12 volt output, something like the Anderson or xt60 connectors.
Ty sir
9:51 Are those 50 watt SunPower panels good for permanent setup?
Edit: Never mind. You answered someone already regarding that:
"Being super light weight, waterproof and with MC4 connections they are super nice to use! Still not perfect for leaving out in the sun forever, I had a day at 107F this last week during testing and the panels were "very flexible" because the plastic was so HOT! I think I would still go for a regular rigid glass panel for "everyday" outdoor use."
Are the rock pals newer 100w folding panels good for permanent use?
@@TTTT-rc4fv 9:43 I think his are the newer ones if I remember correctly. But even if not, I'd assume he would still classify it into the non-permanent category.
Hi great clip I was wondering if you hook it up to your alternator how long would it take to charge ?
Understand the theory of parallel vs series. However, what would connecting the panels in the 2 configuration look like.
Google "Series vs Parallel solar panels". There are some great articles online that show pictures and demonstrate the difference.
Great video
Thanks!
Great reviews always u
I appreciate that!
Awesome video! Thanks for posting informative content. I have a question about the system i have planned. I plan on powering an Iceco VL45 ProS with a Bluetti EB70S. I plan on charging the EB70S with my car battery while driving. I’m thinking of wiring up a Blue Sea Systems accessory panel with a 12v cigarette lighter outlet with a inline 15a fuse to the car battery and have it installed in the truck bed next to the fridge. Then using your 12v-24v converter idea from that accessory panel to the EB70S. Is that a sound system or am I overlooking something?
12v to 24v converter will pull around 25 amps max, plan for that large of a load with your fuses are wiring and you'll be fine.
Great video!!! This is the exact fridge?battery?solar set up ive been thinking about for camping.
It will work great! I'd suggest at least 100 watts of solar. Also, don't forget my discount code for the ICECO, save 12% off the total price on any fridge.
If i left the EB70 charging in the boot of my car from my 12v aux socket. Will the EB70 stop charging if my car battery drops below a certain value?To protect my car battery. Also if the EB70 is in boot of car. And the temperature drops below 0C 32F . does the internal BMS shut down charging/discharging . As i have read that LifePo4 batteries can be permanently damaged at below freezing.
Loved you video. I'm wanting to run a 2.6 cubic foot Magic Chef AC fridge of the Bluetti EB70S. How long do you think it would run without charging.? Can I charge the Bluetti with two 400 watt flexible solar panels if I hook them in parallel mode without harming the Bluetti? Like the portable flexible panels because of light weight and I can fix them to my DIY promaster camper or use them portable. A penny for your thoughts.
The EB70 would probably work with the small fridge but it would use much more power than these 12v DC powered fridges. I haven't ever tested one of those mini fridges so I can't get you an estimated run time. You'd probably be better off going with a larger power station.
Concerning your solar question, thats a lot of solar panels (800 watts) for a power station that will only accept 160 watts input. I'd either recommend just a 200 watt panel for the EB70, or I'd go with one of the larger power stations so you can actually use the full 800 watts.
The new EcoFlow Delta 2 has been really impressive with my testing, it's a little larger and charges with more solar panels. Review will be out this next Friday.
Great Video, just put an ICECO VL45 Pro with an SOK 100ah battery in my truck. Using a CTEK D250SE to charge, was wondering if 100 watt panel would be enough. This video makes me think I should be fine. My next question is, how does the gauge of wire (voltage drop) effect my solar panel input efficiency.
Excellent setup! I like the sok batteries! 12 awg wire should be fine for up to 20 amps, voltage drop will be minimal for that setup. I have run 50 feet of 12 awg wire and didn't notice much loss in power. The MPPT charge controllers do pretty good with any voltage.
Are you having any issue with your VL45 pro lid seal? I heard that this is common problem and am trying to decide between the normal VL45 or VL45 ProS
Maaaan. I want one of those little 50 watt panels so bad. I just love that form factor. And honestly, I dont like the 100 watt one, just seems like too much to manage with the flex on it.
If they made like a 60 or 80 watt, that would be perfect.
Being super light weight, waterproof and with MC4 connections they are super nice to use! Still not perfect for leaving out in the sun forever, I had a day at 107F this last week during testing and the panels were "very flexible" because the plastic was so HOT! I think I would still go for a regular rigid glass panel for "everyday" outdoor use.
I also want one of the 50 watt weather proof panels. Do you have a link for them?
@@oopsieeee You can buy the 50 watt here:
amzn.to/3y9BbGJ
They also have a 100 watt if that works better for your setup.
@@Jasonoid Thanks. I also subscribed to your channel. Great presentation.
i have a weird issue with a jackery 240 on my deep freezer, it runs at about 35w but when i plug in my bluetti it pulls 80w and i hear the compressor. jackery is rated for 200w constant draw. whats up? i htink im going to empty freezer and do some tests so i dont spoil food.
I wonder if they will release a new eb70 with the eb3a screen, built in power brick and app. I would buy one then!
I'm hoping for a new version soon :)
Could I use a 200W mono panel with about 21Vmp and 9A mp? It's under the 28V max imput of the EB70, but too many Amps? Or the EB70 would only draw 8Amps out of the 9A? No damage to EB70?
Plus, the panels never really get to full power do they? Always some clouds or limiting factors...
The power station limits the amperage input automatically, you just don't want to go over the max voltage. You're good with that solar panel!
@@Jasonoid Thanks, you are very helpful. Best new channel for solar. Keep up the good work.
Hey Jason, how much more draw would you say the system would have with frequent opening and closing of the fridge?
Probably add a few more watts to the average power usage, not by much. If you left the lid open for awhile that would affect it more. One nice thing about having the lid on top is the cold air doesn't flow out like a side opening fridge.
hey mate great review. but I have a question. can you use the station while its being charged by solar or wall socket? so that the fridge can keep getting powered? that's probably my biggest concern. cheers!
Yep, that one of the best ways to power a 12v fridge with this power station. You can charge the power station off solar or your car. Then run the fridge off the power station.
The question comes to mind is why couldn't you just use a inverter in your lighter 120 and plug in the charger like you would at home? I'm new to this solar stuff so maybe I'm wrong. But it seems logical to me. Please let me know. Thanks for all of your information on this! I just got my EB70 and a renegy 100 what panel. Thanks
The wall charger pulls 198 watts, which is too much for a 12v socket in a vehicle. It would blow a fuse.
You can charge the EB70 power station with the included 12v cig cable in your car.
I'm looking at one of these EB70 and maybe getting a panel to go with it. I was looking at the sunpower that you had in the video and I'm wondering about the 100W that they have available, but wasn't sure what the connector you had to go with it. Can you link that for me? Great video!
The Sunpower Flex 100 would work great with this power station, just like using two 50s together.
I enjoyed watching your video I have some similar equipment are your Balder panels weather resistant? Is it alright to leave them out during a twenty minute summer shower while I am on the trail ??
They are weather resistant, just don't let water get to that junction box on the back. You can leave them out all day, just not for weeks and weeks, they aren't designed for permanent use.
eco flow river pro is better but the charge cycle is amazon on eb70
Totally true, hope to be getting an ECOflow to test here soon! That would be really cool to compare them.
Hi Jason! I’m new in your channel. Thank you for sharing so good knowledge!
I’m about to buy one portable power station to run my 43l 12v camping fridge and I’m wondering if the Eb3a does the job with a 200w solar panel… Can you help me with that? Cheers!!!
I recommend at least a 500wh power station for running a 12v fridge. The EB3A will work but it's a bit small, only having 268wh. The battery won't last as long so I'm not sure on a hot night in the summer if the battery will get you through the night.
Dear sir, I have bought a bluetti ac200 Max and haven't gotten a proper answer from the company. I am in Australia (240 volts) and currently have the ac200 Max connected to the mains power. (To keep it topped up for loss of power . Having permanently plugged in will it affect the viability of the batteries. I am also about to link up 3x 300 w panels as the Max input is 900w. ?? SERIES OF PARRALEL would be best. I'm an old fart and I think I have kangaroos in the top paddock. Please help with some advice please.
This video will teach about connecting solar panels properly to that model. Give it a watch and let me know if you have any questions:
ruclips.net/video/4JG8LvJznLY/видео.html
I will have a teardrop camper with an onboard lithium battery. The solar options are kind of limited because we’ll have the camper in the shade here in the South. But we have the Bluetti AC200P solar generator. Is there a way to run from the Bluetti into the shore power hookup (which recharges the onboard battery)? Some have told me this would be very inefficient. It would sure be nice to have the 2000 watt Bluetti to serve as a means to recharge the lithium battery. Thanks for this video! Very informative. All the best.
If your main goal is to recharge your onboard lithium battery using AC power, you'll need to purchase an affordable AC LiFePO4 charger. Then you can chose to run that charger off the AC200p or the shore power to charge up the onboard battery. I'm assuming its a LiFePO4 battery? What size and brand is it? That will help determine the size of charger you'll need.
I want to use the Bluetti AC200P to recharge the onboard lithium battery (Dragonfly 100 amp hour 12 volt LifePO4) directly. The shore power input to the onboard battery apparently recharges the battery also. Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. I’m learning.
The battery is housed behind a panel in the teardrop and the shore power receptacle is on the side of the camper. Normally an extension cord would connect to the campsite power source. This power input runs the refrigerator (and other stuff) and recharges the battery too.
If we don’t have a campsite with shore power, then we’d like to use the Bluetti as a recharging option.
@@michaelworsham174 You can pick up a charger similar to this: amzn.to/3qQ5hxW ...I have not tested this model in particular so I'm not saying to this one exactly, just find one similar that works for you. Basically you need to find an AC wall charger designed for LiFePO4 (10 to 20 amps at least). You would plug this charger into your AC200p and run it off the inverter to charge up your house battery.
I heard that bluetti ac300 or something has 24V output. too bad the eb55 & EB70 which are 24V packs... don't offer 24V...
The ac300 offers 240v output if you put two of them in series, so kinda like a split phase home 240v output. Probably near 100% of US auto and marine use 12v. I understand the benefits to 24v but it's just not something that's been adopted in the US
4th option is to use 300W inverter and AC charging brick.
Yeah, the only issue is that most cigarette ports in cars don't handle 25 amps, usually 12 amps is the max, which is around 180 watts (12voltx25amps=300 watts), so you'd have to connect the inverter directly to your battery. It would still work though.
@@Jasonoid
Yes, but it would be inconvenient to hook up to battery everytime you want to charge.
I would run a dedicated 30 amp to Camper, van, or RV.
Hi what would be the best solar panel glass panels) array for charging this bluetti? I currently have two 200W Bouge 9BB panels. thanks
You'll want to wire those solar panels in parallel and they will work just fine, you'll see around 150w to 170w input with those panels due to the limitations of the EB70 charge controller. Do not wire the panels in series or it will damage the power station.
good stuff
Thanks!
What also works well to charge while driving:
Plug a 300w pure sine inverter into your car's 12v "cigarette" socket and then plug the Bluetti's 230v "charger" into the inverter. This works a treat with my little PowerOak PS6 and my larger PowerOak PS7. (poweroak.eu/de/powerbanks/10054-poweroak-poweroak-ps7-1000wh-solar-ac-dc-generator-8719324080569.html)
Thanks for the tip! That is probably the best way to charge it off a vehicle if you already have an decent pure sine wave inverter! Man....I tried to cover everything but I always leave out something haha
Does that really work? The cigarette socket is 12V 10A isn't it? That's 120W maximum so does a 300W inverter work in it?
Can this unit be charged up by the cars 12v outlet and solar panel up top at the same time? Or does it only support one at a time? Thank you for these awesome videos!
The EB70 can only be charged by one input at a time, either the AC adapter, solar, or the 12v charger. However the EB55 (review on my channel) supports dual charging up to 400 watts!
@@Jasonoid thank you very much for all of your videos, I really appreciate people like you!
Hey, a quick question: you said that too high solar voltage will fry the board, aren't there onboard safety mechanisms to shut off the incoming power to prevent any damage? I found a portable panel with Voc 28.35V; Isc 8.72A; Vmp 25.04V; Imp 8.00A. The Vmp and Imp seems to be perfect for EB70, however the Voc is slightly over. Do you think it would be safe to run this panel on an EB70? Thanks!
Thats a great question Arnolds. I haven't tested putting a higher voltage on the EB70. I know a guy who connected two 12v panels in series into his EB70 and it didn't throw a warning, it just burned up his EB70 control board.
Maybe having an input voltage just barely over the 28volts isn't as bad as connecting in 40+ volts like he did... Sometimes the best way is just to test it out but there are always risks of damage.
Great Review. Really interested in getting a DC to DC adapter for redundancy. Thanks for sharing.
Question! Did you have any issues connection your fridge to the EB70's cigarette lighter port. I noticed my ICECO 20 would not work when I had it plugged into the DC cigarette lighter. It would power the instrument panel of the fridge but it would not run the compressor to cool down the fridge. The fridge worked fine when plugged into my vehicles DC so the cable is good. I need to plug in something else into the Bluetti's cigarette port to confirm whether good or bad.
Any error codes on the screen of the fridge? E3, E1? I tested about 6 different fridges and I they all ran just fine.
Another option could be to use the AC to DC adapter off the inverter to run the fridge.
@@Jasonoid i think i have the same issue with a jackery 240 on my deep freezer, it runs at about 35w but when i plug in my bluetti it pulls 80w and i hear the compressor. jackery is rated for 200w constant draw. whats up?
Probably cant handle the surge current to start the deep freezer compressor.
Just found your channel and subscribed. Great advice. Was wondering, I have 2 x 110ah leisure batteries
(Lead acid) that I charge using a split charger while driving, if I had too, could I charge the EB70 from them via a 12v/24v step up as a short term measure? Low sun conditions etc..
Many thanks.
Hey Mike, welcome to the channel! Yeah, the EB70 will take in 10-28 volts in order to charge the battery so you shouldn't have any issues charging it up.
@@Jasonoid Thanks Jason
How does running a fridge in a hot car affect the power draw? If you park your car in full sun and it gets like 40C degrees in there, can the solar panels keep up?
When temps are above 40C the fridge has to run much more often. Expect less runtime the hotter it is. You'd want to max out the solar charging so you can keep it running in hot weather (160watts).
Do you have a link to the cable you used and spliced into the Iceco 12v cable by chance? Do you know if that plug comes in a 90* version so its not sticking straight out? It looks like you added anderson power poles plugs as well? The cigarette plug the factory cable comes with is trash, but i was worried about cutting it up and splicing something else not being able to handle the power load, have you had issues with that at all?
ruclips.net/video/Ylml-ogE3FE/видео.html this is what I have done to bypass the cig plug for the EB70 setup.
How you doing sir I’m thinking of buying the same power station and the solar panel I think you should read it and waterproof a long as I buy the same one and I could put one after another with the same app I don’t know too much about that can you write me back and send me a link or the ones that you bought I really got to fishing picnic but if you could guide me somewhere The race solar panel to buy that will last me for a long time thank you
You can't go wrong with the EB70 or EB55, both are excellent power stations. Check out the solar panel videos on my channel for guidance on which one will work best for you.
So the The converter has what kind of connections? 4 gauge to the battery and the barrel connection to the EB70 is that correct.
Closer view on my EB70 review, I show how it's built. It has Anderson connections on both ends. One side is input, one side is output. 12awg wire is all that's needed.... But I use those alligator clamps for my 30 amp charger as well.
Thanks for the info. Can you recommend a ridged 200 W solar panel for the EB70?
I'd go with the BougeRV 200 watt 9bb panel. I also have a discount code on my website to take down the price around 13%. Jasonoid.com > discount code page
What are alternate chargers for the EB70S to replace the noisy charger it comes with? (I am talking about alternate wall plug in charger)
You can plug in any dc power source that's under 28volts and it will charge.
Did you make the cord with the 5.5 barrel connector or is it factory made?
I made my own cable, heres a video how to do it: ruclips.net/video/Ylml-ogE3FE/видео.html
Is that a 5.5x2.1 port on there? I ordered some pigtails on ebay and they won't fit in the port. Where did you get your pigtails from?
I had mine laying around from an old charger, I just cut it off and put APP on the end. The barrel ports on the EB70 are 5521 ports, my pigtail is a 5525 and it rocks a bit, either will work on these but a 5521 will be more snug.
Thank You for your info. I just started using my EB70 and am pretty happy with it. However I don't understand why to use or not use ECO mode. Can You enlighten me?
If you have Eco mode enabled it shuts off the AC inverter or DC output after 4 hours if it doesn't sense a big enough load. If you have a small load on the inverter or DC outputs, sometimes ECO mode can mistakenly shutoff the power station early when you don't want it to. In my opinion it's best to leave ECO mode disabled and just turn off the outputs when you don't use them. It doesn't do anything else to save power.
@@Jasonoid I will follow your recommendation, it makes sense. Much appreciated.
Excellent video, my EB70 is on the way...the converter really caught my attention but I can't find which previous video includes the "build" you have mentioned here...what is the title of that video? Thanks!!
It's just my EB70 review video, couple weeks ago. Just check my time stamps to jump right to it.
If you were running your fridge in the car, would you plug into the car or the Bluetti? Just wondering, because I'm not sure if my alternator could charge the Bluetti and run my 40L fridge. I was thinking to plug the Bluetti into the car and the fridge into the Bluetti.
I would plug in my power station to my vehicle, and then run my fridge off my power station. That way when I went to shut off my engine to get gas or food, the fridge will keep running off the power station. Your car alternator will handle the load of the power station and fridge just fine. It's under 10amps of draw and most alternators can handle 25 to 35 amps of accessories.
Can you do a video on a Dorm size mini fridge? I'm trying to figure my set up out, My mini fridge is hooked up to a 1500 watt power inverter and straight to my car battery with a 100 watt soler panel, it tends to power off over night, I'm thinking about getting a second battery or should I just get a second solar panel? Or maybe both are a car battery charger with a extra inverter? 🤯
Mini fridges use MUCH more power than these 12v fridges (ICECO, Dometic, ARB, Engel just to name a few good brands). You'd be better off getting a more efficient fridge and then the next step would be a bigger battery with more power storage.
i would like to overspec solar panel setup. e.g. they are capable of producing 300watt. the battery can only take 200 watts and most of the time these panels will not exceed 200 because of various factors, hence overspeccing but on these days and moments where they do exceed 200 watts how can i protect the battery? i will want to connect a charge controller in between the panels and the battery? a dc to dc converter?
or is the circuitry present in the eb70?
how would you go about connecting 3 100w panels in parallel? voltages etc and connecting pieces
I made a video for this question: ruclips.net/video/4JG8LvJznLY/видео.html
Overpaneling is fine, the EB70 will limit the amperage input to 8 amps, never go over the voltage limit. 12v panels in parallel will work great.
@@Jasonoid much gratitude for the reply and the video. thanks
great video! do you have a video how you make the fridge connector to 5.5 mm dc
Hey Jessie, I don't have a video on it but you can find a few 5521 adapters on Amazon that may work for your needs. I just bought a 5521 adapter and then soldered setup the other end with Anderson PowerPole connections as I use those for most of my setup.
@@Jasonoid thanks for the reply ill try to make one!
have you tried just connecting the fridge power cable directly to 5521 connector not adding anderson plugs?
@@m1gz883 that would work just fine, I just use different connections with all my testing
Sorry if already been asked. But would a 300 watt pure sine wave inverter powering the bluetti power brick also be a viable option?
Yes, the EB55 and EB70 both pull a little over 200 watts while using the AC charging. You'll most likely need direct wiring from your starter battery to run a 300 watt inverter.
Link the parts for the plug into the barrel connection
All in the video description
I've read most of the replies up to this point B4 composing the following:
I've purchased the Bestek 300W inverter that inverts dc voltage into ac voltage. I've run a power cord directly from the battery into the passenger compartment of my vehicle so I'm not using my vehicle's cigarette lighter or any of its computers. The power cord terminates with a female cigarette lighter.
If I decide to buy an EB70 to use during long power outages, I'll be able to charge it from inside my vehicle with ac voltage, I'll plug the EB70 into my Bestek 300W inverter & charge the EB70 with ac voltage instead of dc voltage. This is a "trick" I learned from Hobotech. Inside my apt, I would use the EB70's dc power cord to my Engel Freezer that runs on ac or dc power.
THE trick was getting the power cord through the firewall of my vehicle. The firewalls on Toyoto's is knowing the ONE place where a plug can be removed that opens a 1" hole in the firewall.
Using an AC inverter is a great way to get full charging power into your power station, but like you mentioned you have to hard wire your vehicle because the standard 12v socket won't handle 200 watts.... I am puzzled why the bestek 300watt inverter comes with a 12v socket?!... Beats me since it pulls more power than most 12v sockets can Handel. I cut off my 12v socket and installed Anderson PP connections! Awesome job on that project. I did the same with my 4runner, I ran 8awg wire to the back driver side and installed a whole custom panel for powering/charging devices. Thanks for sharing!
@@Jasonoid the Bestek 300W inverter has a male cigarette lighter that plugs into the female receptacle. The back of the Bestek has two 110 AC sockets and a couple of small USB ports. I'd plug the EB70's ac plug into a receptacle on the back of the Bestek 300W inverter.
No need for solar panels when using a Bestek 300W dc to ac inverter.
@@Jasonoid We can both share a laugh because we both know the time & effort we had to expend to get that power cord from the battery through the firewall.
@@azclaimjumper true that bro! True that lol
@@Jasonoid Could I plug the EB70 directly into my Bestek 300W inverter & not use the Bluetti Power brick?
I saw the one you had outside we’re 50 and 50 Should I get 100 200 that’s the one I like like the one you got outside I don’t go camping what do you recommend this is my first power station and solar power or 2 50s what I really like I like I said before 200 and put them together like the one you got in the backyard the same company
For camping I like to recommend a folding panel. My favorite right now is the XTAR SP100 (check out my review).
For a solar panel that sits outside all the time, it's best to use a glass rigid 200 watt panel for simplicity.
@@Jasonoid Thank you I just need something to be charging that thing at a park or something should I just get 100 or 200 Ridge it I know I’m a pain in the neck that’s my cousins
@@locascioantonino if you're going to use this in the park, just pick up a folding 100watt panel.
@@Jasonoid Thank you sir
Can you run 2 of the ROCKPALS RP082 100 watt folding panels you linked - on the EB570 ?
As long as they are hooked together in parallel those panels will work great on the EB55 and EB70! The EB power stations dont support panels put in series, the voltage is too high and will damage them.
I’m confused should Rigid solar panel or blueitt I don’t go camping I might go to the park or I might go to a coffee shop or I might be in my backyard but not something big maybe 200 Rigid or the name of the store Blueitt I want the solar panel to Last a long time thank you
I like glass rigid panels because they are durable and last 25 years for producing solar power. Portable panels only last 3 to 5 years since they aren't as strong. It all depends if you need something portable or not. A 100 watt glass rigid panel might work great since they aren't that big and heavy.
@@Jasonoid Thank you sir
Hi Jason: where did yu buy yu dc to DC cable? Thk yu D
I built my own cable like this:
ruclips.net/video/Ylml-ogE3FE/видео.html
Hi Jason do you have a video on the build of that 12v to 24v with the alligator clips ? Also if it puts out 10amps and the eb70s has a 8 amp limit what n happens to the extra 2 amps?
I have a pv120s do you think if i bought a secong one i could conect to charge it faster ?
You'll see a very small increase of power adding a second pv120 solar panel. I wouldn't recommend it.
This is a boost converter that will work well for faster car charging, it will last much longer and won't get near as hot if you purchase one that's larger like this: amzn.to/4cFl6xm
If you have 10 amps available from solar, the power station will only pull the max power it can, 8 amps, the other two amps just aren't used.
@Jasonoid So is that also true using this boost converter 12vto24v 20amps
Charging eb70s the extra amps will not hurt anything ?
@@denalewis3473 correct, no harm done. The amperage will be automatically limited to 8 amps input. The 20 amp converter will stay cooler.
What is the wattage of the fridge?
Compressor pulls around 35 watts when running, but it only runs about 30% of the time, this one is very efficient. I have a video on it here:
ruclips.net/video/ou8r_Ur1pmk/видео.html