If turboprops had enough power for bleed air wing heating they would be using it not boots. boots are just the necessary solution, not desired one. never heard of jet pilots wanting de-ice boots....
TKS is annoying and messy and you run out. Don’t ever use TKS for anything other than getting out of ice. It will get you into a ton of trouble otherwise.
@@calvinnickel9995 do you know any of these dead pilots? When leading edge ice is removed too early the buildup does not get removed from behind the boot and builds up causing a deterioration of the airfoil. Heavier ice will break off in larger sheets and remove the buildup. 16,450 hrs. 47 types.
@@jamesstephenpeyton3305 an EMB-120 crashed in Monroe MI in 1997 after picking up only 1/4" of icing in under a minute. In any case, the NASA Aircraft Icing course explicitly covers this topic. The belief that an "ice bridge" will form if you inflate the boots too early is simply not true, and there's evidence to prove: 1) That this phenomenon doesn't happen 2) That this mentality has actually caused a significant number of accidents, as pilots simply do not engage their deice systems and accumulate way too much ice way too quickly The only benefit to not activating your deicing boots early is that you don't have a "satisfying" shed and that there will be some left-over ice. However, the leftover ice will not cause a performance degradation, and will typically be shed in subsequent boot activations. Bottom line: There's no reason to "wait" until you built up a good amount of ice, just turn the damn thing on right away.
IDK....I'm an engineer but not a pilot. Just seems like such an antiquated technology to still be in use in 2024. I rubber inner tube needs to inflate at 30K feet to keep everyone alive? ....smh!🤨
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remarkably clean break! sheds much better than my jetstream.
So cool! I've never seen the de-icing boots in action before! 5*
Wings deicer boots it's the most practical and simple way to shed ice away,the air bleed system also good but it'll add weight and complexity :)
Boots suck. Bleed air is the best. if you have a turbine you aren't worried about how much weight a bleed air system is going to grab
If turboprops had enough power for bleed air wing heating they would be using it not boots. boots are just the necessary solution, not desired one. never heard of jet pilots wanting de-ice boots....
What do you think of the new super hydrophobic coatings/ surface etchings that stop ice formation?
I'm using WD40 before flight.
I'll stick with my TKS. I know they're messy but I never seem to mind messing up the aircraft when there's even a hint of ice. Not a fan of boots.
TKS is annoying and messy and you run out.
Don’t ever use TKS for anything other than getting out of ice. It will get you into a ton of trouble otherwise.
I wait for a much heavier buildup, this is very light icing.
There’s a lot of dead pilots who thought the same thing.
@@calvinnickel9995 do you know any of these dead pilots?
When leading edge ice is removed too early the buildup does not get removed from behind the boot and builds up causing a deterioration of the airfoil. Heavier ice will break off in larger sheets and remove the buildup.
16,450 hrs. 47 types.
@@jamesstephenpeyton3305 wondering if the ATR pilots waited for heavier buildup...
@@jamesstephenpeyton3305 an EMB-120 crashed in Monroe MI in 1997 after picking up only 1/4" of icing in under a minute.
In any case, the NASA Aircraft Icing course explicitly covers this topic. The belief that an "ice bridge" will form if you inflate the boots too early is simply not true, and there's evidence to prove:
1) That this phenomenon doesn't happen
2) That this mentality has actually caused a significant number of accidents, as pilots simply do not engage their deice systems and accumulate way too much ice way too quickly
The only benefit to not activating your deicing boots early is that you don't have a "satisfying" shed and that there will be some left-over ice. However, the leftover ice will not cause a performance degradation, and will typically be shed in subsequent boot activations.
Bottom line: There's no reason to "wait" until you built up a good amount of ice, just turn the damn thing on right away.
@@jamesstephenpeyton3305never wait for heavier buildup. 35000 hours, 60 types.
SICK VIDEO !
Deshileo en bota avion atr ..pero no sirve para gelamiento severos
Did they have this also on the 1994 pc-12 version or only NG?
Unfortunately the PC’s in 94 only came with windows, but my NGa Devon made it work
poor ice. falling without a parachute
got me wondering - what if speed/stall meters (those sticks I presume are them) would get clogged by snow, what then?
Pitot tube (airspeed meters ) are heated electrically
Well, they have their own de-icing system. If the pitot got clogged, well the pilot will find speed reading becoming unreliable
There’s a pitot heat switch in cock pit you switch on.
IDK....I'm an engineer but not a pilot. Just seems like such an antiquated technology to still be in use in 2024. I rubber inner tube needs to inflate at 30K feet to keep everyone alive? ....smh!🤨
These are the most annoying thing to fix/ replace on this aircraft.
Isn't this dangerous? Those ice pieces could fall and hit someone!!