There is a cultural difference in using healthcare, healthcare in the Netherlands is only for serious issues that need medical interventions. If they tell you something like: take a paracetamol, get a good night sleep or see if it goes away in three weeks, then it is not a serious issue. To me it is kind of surprising that you have already multiple times experience with a doctor in just two years. I have see my doctor on average once every seven or eight years, I have friends that have never seen their doctor in their entire adult life. And people in the Netherlands really shouldn't complain about their taxes, look how great our infrastructure, healthcare and education systems are.
I understand your point but it’s still unusual for me that a diagnosis is carried out over the phone. I have young kids who fall ill frequently hence my multiple experience with the doctor. It’s human to complain even if we see where our taxes are going😃
It is not unusual. It is not meeting your American expectations. Those are 2 different things. I agree that a diagnosis over the phone may come as a surprise. Over the last years the system got under pressure because of shortages on Docters. Where I live there is a waiting list and I can not switch. Even though I am not happy with my Docters practices. It's rude and uninterested, biased and old knowledge. If you need real good healthcare, you go to France. My stephdad was an American. Je said it was a hundred times better in NL over USA. It's just an opinion based on your experience . Yours too. It's not the same for all people. At least we got insurance and medicine and doctors bills way better and cheaper than USA. But expertise is lacking. It's heavy under Inluence of old Calvinistic thinking. IMHO
@buddy1155 I don't even know how to respond to your comment. If an indigenous Dutch woman had complained of bleeding for, let's say, 16 days, she would have wanted to see a doctor and she would have been given an appointment on the double. Despite the Dutch having a reputation of being levelheaded, I think it would be a cold day in hell before she'd let some intern tell her she can't come to the GP's office. You wrote health care in the Netherlands is only for serious issues and, yet, so many deaths occur when intervention was necessary but deemed unnecessary, so many are maimed because care was necessary but deemed unnecessary. I but have to look at myself, relatives, friends, to know your health care system is broken. Thank the Lord for your health, some of us need to see the GP and specialist nurses and doctors more than we'd like to. It's not cultural, it's simply medical.
@camielkotte You sound confused, biased, not knowledgeable and so French. How many immigrants have you known long enough to tell what they think and feel at any given moment?
@@Southamericangirl42 You still do not get it, I don't have a perfect health. I have all kinds of things, but before I go to a doctor I wait a few weeks, google if it could be something serious. If it stays and it could be serious I go and see a doctor. And a triage (different as a diagnose) can easily been done over the phone. Everyone who needs care in the Netherlands gets care, people who do not need care don't get it. I am very proud on our system.
When I read the nonsens about the doctor, that it's almost impossible to make an appointment, I stop immediately reading and leave the vlog. Because it is not true! My age is 70 and I have never, never been refused (100%).
@@elohorkoleowo You are correct though, it wasn't always like this. I used too be able to make appointments very easily, since the covid situation things have changed. There is also the the fact that we have too many people living here, healthcare can only handle a certain volume efficiently.
@mrnobody043 Wrong. There was a good universal health care system in place but, the government eradicated it. (By the way, if you want to see hypocrisy's finest moment, think of how the Dutch (government) cheered Obama on with regard to his efforts toward American universal health care.) Over time the government bogged doctors down with administrative tasks. After all, the new system is not affordable - which happens when a government rewards rich thieves like health insurance companies - so people need financial aid from the Hague. And the Hague needs to know where all 'their' money goes. Then they created Covid19 to allow said insurance companies to make more money off us because, guess what? We received zero health care and paid 100% of our insurance premiums during that time, didn't we? I've often wondered during corona which country accepts a man who couldn't even rule his class room to rule over their health care.
@urbnctrl It is very true. It happens more often than the indigenous Dutch care to acknowledge. Covid is only partly, and minimally, to blame but why a government allows large amounts of migrants and refugees to come in year after year after year when it does not have the capacity - for starters - is beyond me.
You have to go here with the flow, we have “huisarts” which are indeed in shortage but it is also a way to be send to the hospital, the specialists. I understand why you think that way, but you just need to be stern and demand a visit. But if needed you get the care you need. The houses is indeed mad, but it depends on where you want to live. If you want to live in Amsterdam well, get you wallets out, like most big cities. If you have the skills in something which is in great demand then you get good pay. We all complain about the prices to live here, even we are not used to it. About the language, true, we do speak English like in Nigeria (I lived in Lagos and Bida) but our language is indeed Dutch like in Nigeria have the local languages. Very good video, true and good to warn other people who want to come here for living.
The housing issues stem from government. There's not much money to be had when building rentals. But sales generate big income, hence the government allows for the building of townhouses and condos more so than subsidised dwellings.
I will move to the Netherlands in the following weeks for work and honeslty the doctor thing is what concerns me the most. I am used to have easy access directly to specialists, and I have a pharmacology background, so I understand a thing or two. I am currently doing my yearly extensive check-up before going to the Netherlands as I have heard that this is not easy over there. Fortunately, I speak Dutch, so I believe that with everyday practice, I will get even better at it.
I would love to see more about Lagos!!! I heard the city nightlife is litt!! Would love to visit. The medicare in Nigeria seems a very optimized system! In the Netherlands everything is anout "efficiency" sometimes at the cost of personal attention 😅 big love from Friesland🧡
If you live in Amsterdam, R'dam or Utrecht it will be more difficult to make an appointment with the doctor. I live in Eindhoven, if I call in the morning, I can see the doctor in the afternoon. Don't confuse the big cities where expats and tourists linger with the Netherlands
sorry but in the Netherlands they love to speak English ;; I speak Dutch and when i go there they switch automatic, specially in Amsterdam... instead that in Belgium, they wd tell you, hey jij moet vlaams klap ehhh
@@elohorkoleowo I'm Dutch from a small village. Doctor shortage here too, and I have been sent home with kidney infections before. One time they missed a huge medical issue on a ct scan, that nearly killed me, because they were too busy convinced I had an eating disorder. It's not perfect. Once you are in a hospital, the services like food, care, nurses, scans and surgeries are good quality. But it is not perfect. That is nonsense and people should not make you feel like you are being demanding. No, we don't take our kids to the doctor when they have the flu. Just let them rest and you'll be fine. But hey, if my kid gets an ear infection 2 times in a row and my doctor says "wait it out" I don't think so, lol. But I do have to say living in Canada for 10 years now. It is bad here. Like medical neglect, malpractice, understaffed, outdated, dirty, no specialists. I had to pay 40.000 and travel to the united states to get surgery for my intestines, because Canada did not know how to do the surgery, and the test to find out was 2 years waiting list. They have cancer centers here with a waiting list over a year for people who already have cancer. Dutch healthcare, compared to most places on earth, is quite good. But you do have to push for care, because they are very conservative in terms of medical procedures. As where America is crazy with handing out more extreme procedures that could have been solved with conservative measures.
Hi! Im interested in moving to Nigeria. Could you make a similar video outlining the downsides of health care, housing, and taxes in Nigeria so I know what I'll be up against? At least English is the official language so that's one less thing to worry about there since I can speak English!! Thanks for your videos. I really want people hoping to move to NL to watch and understand how awfully hard and expensive and unhealthy it is to live here!! Truly thank you!! PS- I'm pretty poor and can't afford more than 130euros per month for health insurance in any country. What does private health insurance, like what you had, cost in euros in Nigeria? Oh wait... maybe I could afford to pay moee for insurance if I made more money? What's the job market like there? What's the minimum wage?
If 99% of the patients are send home with a paracetamol, chances are, the majority of this group totally wasted the doctors time. So there the reason it's hard to make an appointment. Countries with doctors handing out antibiotics like it's candy have an increasing problem with antibotics resistant bacteria. Another thing is, when I go to the doctor I see a waiting room filled with elderly. Europe has a very grey population and that's the other reason for a lot of pressure on the healthcare system.
I understand this but sometimes I’ll prefer if tests are carried out to fully investigate the symptoms not tell patients over the phone to take paracetamol and rest
@@elohorkoleowo I get it, it feels sometimes like the huisarts is some sort of gatekeeper for the hospital to filter out the nonsense complaints. The problem is, we have some professional complainers in this country who would, if given the change, totally derail the healthcare system by having the doctors running all kinds of tests all the time, so they have no time left for real issues. That's the downside of universal healthcare. If you have a real issue the doctor wil help you, all I can say is be very specific about what's wrong with you. The better you explain your comdition, the greater change you'll get the treatment you need.
@elohorkoleowo I agree with you. This is why they misdiagnose and kill people. It happens more often than they care to admit. We lost a little friend the year before last - she was just five years old. Do you have some time? Cause I could tell you stuff.
@hunchbackaudio U woont vast in een plaatsje als Bussum waar niemand naartoe of vandaan verhuist. Hoog vergrijzingsgehalte. Wanneer ik naar de huisarts ga, zie ik er mensen van een paar weken oud tot mensen van mijn leeftijd, maar ik ben er eerlijk gezegd nooit mensen van hoge leeftijd (voor zover ik leeftijden kan inschatten) tegengekomen. Mijn huisarts is daarnaast in een gzc. Migranten hebben regelmatig klachten over de zorg die zij niet krijgen. Ik vrees dat veel autochtone artsen nog steeds te weinig weten hoe geneeskunde op die groep toe te passen. Zelf vind ik dat ik voor het pak geld dat ik een zorgverzekeraar overhandig, ook wat terug wil zien. Mij zal niemand met een paracetamol het riet insturen. Sommige mensen denken nog steeds dat paracetamol of een wondermiddel of onschuldig is. Je zal maar zo een stagiaire aan de telefoon krijgen die als triage deskundige moet optreden en over jouw gezondheid gaat beslissen, terwijl ze tegen zessen nog niet eens weet of ze hasj zal kopen bij Pim of bij Piet.
The thing about healthcare is really nonsense. If you are sick you can go to the doctor. make an appointment and you will see him the next day. If you have an emergency call the doctor and he will go to you immediately or get an ambulance to drive you to the hospital. But dont rely on a doctor to abide with every whim. Be a grown up. If you are that sensitive about a caretaker, call your mommy. She will kiss it away.
I absolutely agree with all the points! The housing crisis is just a nightmare here. We've been looking for a flat for over a month and still nothing - it's either we don't get chosen after sending our offer or we can't even get a viewing simply because other people were faster to apply for the viewing.
Love your eloquency, your range of vocabulary, your composure & mannerism. Your calm voice could put one to sleep. Needless to say you are so beautiful baby girl. I just can imagine the frustration with the medicals & the language barrier. Regardless of the struggle, you radiate because that place is a land flowing with milk and honey for you & family as the Lord declared it.
I think its best to specifically ask for a test. I did get the test when I specifically asked for it haha 😂 before that I didn't and I did ended up having chronic stomach disease.
@-_YouMayFind_- See, that's what I mean so never let a doctor's little helper tell you to take a paracetamol and go to sleep. I believe my mum once told some on-call doctor to take it himself as she would be going to the ER with my then toddler nephew. He was terribly unwell and vomitting violently while running a fever. It turns out there was something in an entire batch of Brinta (everyone's heard of Brinta, right?) and the company recalled it afterwards. The health care system here is sick and they'll happily let you die if you don't manage your care yourself.
The housing crisis is really quite simple. After WW2 there was a lot of damage and a great need for housing. But they only build the bare minimum because the country was buried under bills from reconstruction. So, for decades now we're build too few houses to match population growth. They really focused on the wealthier segments that made them the most money. On top of that people started to live in smaller households, people stay single longer, elderly live longer on their own etc. All of that puts a lot of stress on the bottom of the housing market, the part already underserved for decades. The governments of the last decade or so have mostly ignored problems. Now we had a really nice position so their ignoring didn't plunge us into a disaster just yet but we haven't really fixed any of the major problems. Not the housing, not the climate, not education, etc. The one tip I can give you for finding housing is contracting a makelaar/ real estate agent. They tend to get priority access to new properties from fellow makelaars. With the huge demand that means before the properties even hit the open market there's a good chance it's already taken or at the very least viewings are fully booked. So you're gonna have to pay extra to make it to the front of the line. I also felt food was expensive, till I went to the USA. Now I consider Dutch food to be a bargain even with inflation.
You can see your wn doctor 5 days a week in Holland Mostly in the morning you don 't have to make even an appointment In the afternoon you have to make an appointment Only in the weekend,at night or when you want the doctor come to your home you have to be really sick Or want to mobdaymorning so you can without an appointment to your own doctor So I don 't know where you are talking about Maybe you don 't understand the dutch way with doctors
Not true. Perhaps in Lutjebroek where you, Miss Elly, live. The morning walk-in was done away with by practices large and small. It used to be from 7:30 to 9:00. Something like that. It began a few years ago. Too many patients were coming in and doctors couldn't begin to start seeing their appointments on time. And don't get me started on on-call GPs. I also hear nothing good about the doctors you can go see if the ER refuses you. They call it de huisartsenpost.
In Belgium we are happy with our healthcare.. the best in Europe for now.. and also insurance..Belgium is the Best sister better move to Belgium, the most foreigner is moving to Belgium..
I Don't Know About You Guys But For My Experience. Life In Europe Is Way Difficult Compared To Africa. For Example House, Grocery And Most Ridiculous Thing Is A Taxes. The Amount Of Taxes You're Paying In Europe, Trust Me. You're Buying A House In Africa In Less Than A Year. But Hey Sometimes It's Better To Play Outside Of Your Comfort Zone. Go Some Places And Discover The Life The Way It Is.
The Netherlands is allways near the top of the lists of quality of life, happiness etc. and that doesn't come for free. How high are African countries?
@@ImausrI high enough doctors and surgeons are trained in america and europe i am dutch and lived in ghana for 20 years the doctor in ghana told me the same as the doctor in ghana
How you speak about the Netherlands If you haven't been to Groningen . We don't have a doctors problem in this Provence Talk only about the city where you live. There only is maybe a doctors problem there in your city. In America people don't even have health insurance.The hospital sent you away while you are having A miscarriage😢. Here in Holland everybody have right to healthcare. Why are you only Talk about negatief things. Why don't you tell the teacher I don't understand you, translate in English.
If you watched to the end you will see that I also said that I love living in the Netherlands. This video was only to inform people who want to come here about some of the realities of living here especially as an expat
@Laikabella A lot of you Dutch just regurgitate the narratives that the media feed you about America. You seem to forget that it's a far larger country with a far larger population than your koud kikkerlandje. You're told of one incident in one of the 50 states and deem the entire country - that spans from one ocean to another - evil. Please do not vomit your ignorance on RUclips? In America certain people think looking good is better than buying health insurance. Also, there are organisations, colleges and universities that set up free clinics. Veterans go to VA. I've not once been turned away by hospitals, dentist, GPs, midwife - even when we did not have insurance. Isn't it far worse when in a country so small and so micromanaged as the Netherlands that things go wrong and, when they do, so miserably wrong too? You told the channel owner to talk only about the city where she lives. How about you talk only about the country where you live and leave America be?
@@n.q163 Since the introduction of the new "Zorgwet" bill in 2007. Back then my insurance premium used to be around 60 euro, today i pay a monthly fee of 160+ euro and that premium keeps going up every year. What insurance companies also do is adjusting their T&C all the time, so you risk not being insured for certain things from one day to the other. And it is not just a matter of increasing monthly premiums, you are also guaranteed that your deductible rises frequently. So while you will not see it directly on your hospital bill, you are paying extra via said increases and adjustments. There still is a decent healthcare system in practice and quality but that comes with a cost you'll not notice right away. What also doesn't help is the ever growing greed of board members and other managers in the insurance companies, which is being translated to the public as "Healthcare is just more expensive this year because... it is just expensive, carry on and walk away. nothing to see here". The current system is strained and bound to collapse.
There is a cultural difference in using healthcare, healthcare in the Netherlands is only for serious issues that need medical interventions.
If they tell you something like: take a paracetamol, get a good night sleep or see if it goes away in three weeks, then it is not a serious issue.
To me it is kind of surprising that you have already multiple times experience with a doctor in just two years.
I have see my doctor on average once every seven or eight years, I have friends that have never seen their doctor in their entire adult life.
And people in the Netherlands really shouldn't complain about their taxes, look how great our infrastructure, healthcare and education systems are.
I understand your point but it’s still unusual for me that a diagnosis is carried out over the phone. I have young kids who fall ill frequently hence my multiple experience with the doctor.
It’s human to complain even if we see where our taxes are going😃
It is not unusual. It is not meeting your American expectations. Those are 2 different things.
I agree that a diagnosis over the phone may come as a surprise. Over the last years the system got under pressure because of shortages on Docters. Where I live there is a waiting list and I can not switch. Even though I am not happy with my Docters practices. It's rude and uninterested, biased and old knowledge. If you need real good healthcare, you go to France.
My stephdad was an American. Je said it was a hundred times better in NL over USA. It's just an opinion based on your experience . Yours too. It's not the same for all people. At least we got insurance and medicine and doctors bills way better and cheaper than USA.
But expertise is lacking. It's heavy under Inluence of old Calvinistic thinking. IMHO
@buddy1155
I don't even know how to respond to your comment.
If an indigenous Dutch woman had complained of bleeding for, let's say, 16 days, she would have wanted to see a doctor and she would have been given an appointment on the double. Despite the Dutch having a reputation of being levelheaded, I think it would be a cold day in hell before she'd let some intern tell her she can't come to the GP's office.
You wrote health care in the Netherlands is only for serious issues and, yet, so many deaths occur when intervention was necessary but deemed unnecessary, so many are maimed because care was necessary but deemed unnecessary.
I but have to look at myself, relatives, friends, to know your health care system is broken.
Thank the Lord for your health, some of us need to see the GP and specialist nurses and doctors more than we'd like to. It's not cultural, it's simply medical.
@camielkotte
You sound confused, biased, not knowledgeable and so French.
How many immigrants have you known long enough to tell what they think and feel at any given moment?
@@Southamericangirl42 You still do not get it, I don't have a perfect health. I have all kinds of things, but before I go to a doctor I wait a few weeks, google if it could be something serious. If it stays and it could be serious I go and see a doctor.
And a triage (different as a diagnose) can easily been done over the phone.
Everyone who needs care in the Netherlands gets care, people who do not need care don't get it. I am very proud on our system.
When I read the nonsens about the doctor, that it's almost impossible to make an appointment, I stop immediately reading and leave the vlog. Because it is not true! My age is 70 and I have never, never been refused (100%).
And where did you read this nonsense kind sir?
Not true. I stopped after the statement of not able to see the doctor, simply not true.
It’s okay if you disagree but you cannot invalidate my experience which is what I’ve shared in this video
@@elohorkoleowo You are correct though, it wasn't always like this. I used too be able to make appointments very easily, since the covid situation things have changed. There is also the the fact that we have too many people living here, healthcare can only handle a certain volume efficiently.
She is sharing her experience. It is not uncommon, I dated a girl from Tanzania and her experience was very similar.
@mrnobody043
Wrong.
There was a good universal health care system in place but, the government eradicated it. (By the way, if you want to see hypocrisy's finest moment, think of how the Dutch (government) cheered Obama on with regard to his efforts toward American universal health care.)
Over time the government bogged doctors down with administrative tasks. After all, the new system is not affordable - which happens when a government rewards rich thieves like health insurance companies - so people need financial aid from the Hague. And the Hague needs to know where all 'their' money goes.
Then they created Covid19 to allow said insurance companies to make more money off us because, guess what? We received zero health care and paid 100% of our insurance premiums during that time, didn't we?
I've often wondered during corona which country accepts a man who couldn't even rule his class room to rule over their health care.
@urbnctrl
It is very true. It happens more often than the indigenous Dutch care to acknowledge.
Covid is only partly, and minimally, to blame but why a government allows large amounts of migrants and refugees to come in year after year after year when it does not have the capacity - for starters - is beyond me.
You have to go here with the flow, we have “huisarts” which are indeed in shortage but it is also a way to be send to the hospital, the specialists. I understand why you think that way, but you just need to be stern and demand a visit. But if needed you get the care you need.
The houses is indeed mad, but it depends on where you want to live. If you want to live in Amsterdam well, get you wallets out, like most big cities. If you have the skills in something which is in great demand then you get good pay.
We all complain about the prices to live here, even we are not used to it.
About the language, true, we do speak English like in Nigeria (I lived in Lagos and Bida) but our language is indeed Dutch like in Nigeria have the local languages.
Very good video, true and good to warn other people who want to come here for living.
Thank you so much!
The housing issues stem from government. There's not much money to be had when building rentals. But sales generate big income, hence the government allows for the building of townhouses and condos more so than subsidised dwellings.
I will move to the Netherlands in the following weeks for work and honeslty the doctor thing is what concerns me the most. I am used to have easy access directly to specialists, and I have a pharmacology background, so I understand a thing or two. I am currently doing my yearly extensive check-up before going to the Netherlands as I have heard that this is not easy over there.
Fortunately, I speak Dutch, so I believe that with everyday practice, I will get even better at it.
I would love to see more about Lagos!!! I heard the city nightlife is litt!! Would love to visit. The medicare in Nigeria seems a very optimized system! In the Netherlands everything is anout "efficiency" sometimes at the cost of personal attention 😅 big love from Friesland🧡
Oohhhh Lagos is lit lit! Especially during Christmas and New year aka Detty December.
If you live in Amsterdam, R'dam or Utrecht it will be more difficult to make an appointment with the doctor. I live in Eindhoven, if I call in the morning, I can see the doctor in the afternoon. Don't confuse the big cities where expats and tourists linger with the Netherlands
Oh wow! Looks like I need to move to another city
sorry but in the Netherlands they love to speak English ;; I speak Dutch and when i go there they switch automatic, specially in Amsterdam... instead that in Belgium, they wd tell you, hey jij moet vlaams klap ehhh
come to Belgium sister with your Husband..@@elohorkoleowo
English is widely spoken here but in some situations knowledge of Dutch is needed
@@elohorkoleowo I'm Dutch from a small village. Doctor shortage here too, and I have been sent home with kidney infections before. One time they missed a huge medical issue on a ct scan, that nearly killed me, because they were too busy convinced I had an eating disorder. It's not perfect. Once you are in a hospital, the services like food, care, nurses, scans and surgeries are good quality. But it is not perfect. That is nonsense and people should not make you feel like you are being demanding. No, we don't take our kids to the doctor when they have the flu. Just let them rest and you'll be fine. But hey, if my kid gets an ear infection 2 times in a row and my doctor says "wait it out" I don't think so, lol. But I do have to say living in Canada for 10 years now. It is bad here. Like medical neglect, malpractice, understaffed, outdated, dirty, no specialists. I had to pay 40.000 and travel to the united states to get surgery for my intestines, because Canada did not know how to do the surgery, and the test to find out was 2 years waiting list. They have cancer centers here with a waiting list over a year for people who already have cancer. Dutch healthcare, compared to most places on earth, is quite good. But you do have to push for care, because they are very conservative in terms of medical procedures. As where America is crazy with handing out more extreme procedures that could have been solved with conservative measures.
Hi! Im interested in moving to Nigeria. Could you make a similar video outlining the downsides of health care, housing, and taxes in Nigeria so I know what I'll be up against? At least English is the official language so that's one less thing to worry about there since I can speak English!! Thanks for your videos. I really want people hoping to move to NL to watch and understand how awfully hard and expensive and unhealthy it is to live here!! Truly thank you!! PS- I'm pretty poor and can't afford more than 130euros per month for health insurance in any country. What does private health insurance, like what you had, cost in euros in Nigeria? Oh wait... maybe I could afford to pay moee for insurance if I made more money? What's the job market like there? What's the minimum wage?
If 99% of the patients are send home with a paracetamol, chances are, the majority of this group totally wasted the doctors time. So there the reason it's hard to make an appointment. Countries with doctors handing out antibiotics like it's candy have an increasing problem with antibotics resistant bacteria. Another thing is, when I go to the doctor I see a waiting room filled with elderly. Europe has a very grey population and that's the other reason for a lot of pressure on the healthcare system.
I understand this but sometimes I’ll prefer if tests are carried out to fully investigate the symptoms not tell patients over the phone to take paracetamol and rest
@@elohorkoleowo I get it, it feels sometimes like the huisarts is some sort of gatekeeper for the hospital to filter out the nonsense complaints. The problem is, we have some professional complainers in this country who would, if given the change, totally derail the healthcare system by having the doctors running all kinds of tests all the time, so they have no time left for real issues. That's the downside of universal healthcare. If you have a real issue the doctor wil help you, all I can say is be very specific about what's wrong with you. The better you explain your comdition, the greater change you'll get the treatment you need.
Thank you
@elohorkoleowo
I agree with you. This is why they misdiagnose and kill people. It happens more often than they care to admit. We lost a little friend the year before last - she was just five years old. Do you have some time? Cause I could tell you stuff.
@hunchbackaudio
U woont vast in een plaatsje als Bussum waar niemand naartoe of vandaan verhuist. Hoog vergrijzingsgehalte.
Wanneer ik naar de huisarts ga, zie ik er mensen van een paar weken oud tot mensen van mijn leeftijd, maar ik ben er eerlijk gezegd nooit mensen van hoge leeftijd (voor zover ik leeftijden kan inschatten) tegengekomen. Mijn huisarts is daarnaast in een gzc.
Migranten hebben regelmatig klachten over de zorg die zij niet krijgen. Ik vrees dat veel autochtone artsen nog steeds te weinig weten hoe geneeskunde op die groep toe te passen.
Zelf vind ik dat ik voor het pak geld dat ik een zorgverzekeraar overhandig, ook wat terug wil zien. Mij zal niemand met een paracetamol het riet insturen.
Sommige mensen denken nog steeds dat paracetamol of een wondermiddel of onschuldig is.
Je zal maar zo een stagiaire aan de telefoon krijgen die als triage deskundige moet optreden en over jouw gezondheid gaat beslissen, terwijl ze tegen zessen nog niet eens weet of ze hasj zal kopen bij Pim of bij Piet.
you just need to say no!! I want to see the doctor ASAP and do not take a no for an answer.... got to speak up !!!
The thing about healthcare is really nonsense. If you are sick you can go to the doctor. make an appointment and you will see him the next day. If you have an emergency call the doctor and he will go to you immediately or get an ambulance to drive you to the hospital. But dont rely on a doctor to abide with every whim. Be a grown up. If you are that sensitive about a caretaker, call your mommy. She will kiss it away.
Sit down with that negative comment sir. Be a grown up🙄
She is right.
je kan toch ook normaal praten domme ouwe zak. ga lkkr in spanje wonen
I think that's typical Dutch. Is aan honest opinion with witch you don't agree. "Sit with it"?
@@elohorkoleowo nothing negative he have right
No lies detected. Language barrier- everyday you get reminded that you need to learn Dutch I wish it was so easy
God help us
Looks like you're describing a lot of 'big city' problems which simply do not exist in that scope outside of the Randstad.
Helaas I live in the Randstad so this has been my experience
I absolutely agree with all the points! The housing crisis is just a nightmare here. We've been looking for a flat for over a month and still nothing - it's either we don't get chosen after sending our offer or we can't even get a viewing simply because other people were faster to apply for the viewing.
It’s a rat race unfortunately. I hope you find a place soon
@@elohorkoleowo Yes :( Thank you!
Yeah, it's insane. But people from the Netherlands think the same way. The government just completely effed up. Too many people and too few houses.
Love your eloquency, your range of vocabulary, your composure & mannerism. Your calm voice could put one to sleep. Needless to say you are so beautiful baby girl.
I just can imagine the frustration with the medicals & the language barrier. Regardless of the struggle, you radiate because that place is a land flowing with milk and honey for you & family as the Lord declared it.
Thank you love💕💕
i came in 30 days ago and slept in a hostel for 10 days. Housing is not a joke hahahahaha
If I were you I would take another doctor, that's fine. It doesn't cost anything extra. Greetings and have fun living in the Netherlands.
I think its best to specifically ask for a test. I did get the test when I specifically asked for it haha 😂 before that I didn't and I did ended up having chronic stomach disease.
Oh my! I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you’re better now.
@-_YouMayFind_-
See, that's what I mean so never let a doctor's little helper tell you to take a paracetamol and go to sleep.
I believe my mum once told some on-call doctor to take it himself as she would be going to the ER with my then toddler nephew. He was terribly unwell and vomitting violently while running a fever. It turns out there was something in an entire batch of Brinta (everyone's heard of Brinta, right?) and the company recalled it afterwards.
The health care system here is sick and they'll happily let you die if you don't manage your care yourself.
I think you should switch to a different doctor.
The housing crisis is really quite simple. After WW2 there was a lot of damage and a great need for housing. But they only build the bare minimum because the country was buried under bills from reconstruction. So, for decades now we're build too few houses to match population growth. They really focused on the wealthier segments that made them the most money.
On top of that people started to live in smaller households, people stay single longer, elderly live longer on their own etc. All of that puts a lot of stress on the bottom of the housing market, the part already underserved for decades. The governments of the last decade or so have mostly ignored problems. Now we had a really nice position so their ignoring didn't plunge us into a disaster just yet but we haven't really fixed any of the major problems. Not the housing, not the climate, not education, etc.
The one tip I can give you for finding housing is contracting a makelaar/ real estate agent. They tend to get priority access to new properties from fellow makelaars. With the huge demand that means before the properties even hit the open market there's a good chance it's already taken or at the very least viewings are fully booked. So you're gonna have to pay extra to make it to the front of the line.
I also felt food was expensive, till I went to the USA. Now I consider Dutch food to be a bargain even with inflation.
Thank you so much for this explanation!
Die paracetamol steeds vind ik wel grappig.
meanwhile, normal Dutch people are fleeing the country
Hahaha
Even when u try speaking their language, it's always not enough .sad
Thank you for your wonderful video. The language barrier a European thing except England.
Thank you for watching!
Thanks so much for the enlightenment ❤
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You can see your wn doctor 5 days a week in Holland
Mostly in the morning you don 't have to make even an appointment
In the afternoon you have to make an appointment
Only in the weekend,at night or when you want the doctor come to your home you have to be really sick
Or want to mobdaymorning so you can without an appointment to your own doctor
So I don 't know where you are talking about
Maybe you don 't understand the dutch way with doctors
This is quite interesting
Not true. Perhaps in Lutjebroek where you, Miss Elly, live.
The morning walk-in was done away with by practices large and small. It used to be from 7:30 to 9:00. Something like that. It began a few years ago. Too many patients were coming in and doctors couldn't begin to start seeing their appointments on time.
And don't get me started on on-call GPs. I also hear nothing good about the doctors you can go see if the ER refuses you. They call it de huisartsenpost.
"I don't know what has caused this housing crisis", asked the immigrant. 🙂
Oh look! It’s the funny guy. 🙂
@@elohorkoleowo I'd say the informative guy but I'll take it 😉
@mpcref
Thank your mate Rutte for 13 years of 400,000 "refugees" per annum.
In Belgium we are happy with our healthcare.. the best in Europe for now.. and also insurance..Belgium is the Best sister better move to Belgium, the most foreigner is moving to Belgium..
Good for you! I’ll come visit Belgium soon- maybe I’ll like it
I hear quite a few nationalities here speak favorably of Belgium.
Until what age do they accept highly skilled immigrants?...
I’m not sure there is an age limit for HSM. It’s more about the skills and experience
Thank you for this informative video!
I Don't Know About You Guys But For My Experience. Life In Europe Is Way Difficult Compared To Africa. For Example House, Grocery And Most Ridiculous Thing Is A Taxes. The Amount Of Taxes You're Paying In Europe, Trust Me. You're Buying A House In Africa In Less Than A Year. But Hey Sometimes It's Better To Play Outside Of Your Comfort Zone. Go Some Places And Discover The Life The Way It Is.
To each his own….The most important thing is that we have peace and prosper wherever we are
The Netherlands is allways near the top of the lists of quality of life, happiness etc. and that doesn't come for free. How high are African countries?
Great. Go and stop the boats from Africa to Europe and explain it to them
@@ImausrI high enough doctors and surgeons are trained in america and europe i am dutch and lived in ghana for 20 years the doctor in ghana told me the same as the doctor in ghana
How you speak about the Netherlands
If you haven't been to Groningen .
We don't have a doctors problem in this Provence
Talk only about the city where you live.
There only is maybe a doctors problem there in your city.
In America people don't even have health insurance.The hospital sent you away while you are having A miscarriage😢.
Here in Holland everybody have right to healthcare.
Why are you only Talk about negatief things.
Why don't you tell the teacher I don't understand you, translate in English.
If you watched to the end you will see that I also said that I love living in the Netherlands. This video was only to inform people who want to come here about some of the realities of living here especially as an expat
@Laikabella
A lot of you Dutch just regurgitate the narratives that the media feed you about America. You seem to forget that it's a far larger country with a far larger population than your koud kikkerlandje. You're told of one incident in one of the 50 states and deem the entire country - that spans from one ocean to another - evil.
Please do not vomit your ignorance on RUclips?
In America certain people think looking good is better than buying health insurance. Also, there are organisations, colleges and universities that set up free clinics. Veterans go to VA.
I've not once been turned away by hospitals, dentist, GPs, midwife - even when we did not have insurance.
Isn't it far worse when in a country so small and so micromanaged as the Netherlands that things go wrong and, when they do, so miserably wrong too?
You told the channel owner to talk only about the city where she lives. How about you talk only about the country where you live and leave America be?
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Tanx u ma pls I once am back from work
In the Netherlands people try to avoid doctors and hospitals 😂 it costs too much.
Really? I’ve never heard of this before
That's BS
Since when. Got an operation, was in the hospital for a week and received medication for the upcoming weeks. I didn't have to pay anything extra.
@@n.q163 Since the introduction of the new "Zorgwet" bill in 2007. Back then my insurance premium used to be around 60 euro, today i pay a monthly fee of 160+ euro and that premium keeps going up every year. What insurance companies also do is adjusting their T&C all the time, so you risk not being insured for certain things from one day to the other. And it is not just a matter of increasing monthly premiums, you are also guaranteed that your deductible rises frequently.
So while you will not see it directly on your hospital bill, you are paying extra via said increases and adjustments. There still is a decent healthcare system in practice and quality but that comes with a cost you'll not notice right away.
What also doesn't help is the ever growing greed of board members and other managers in the insurance companies, which is being translated to the public as "Healthcare is just more expensive this year because... it is just expensive, carry on and walk away. nothing to see here".
The current system is strained and bound to collapse.
You have got the first 385 euro yourself, rest is for free. Those Who cannot afford that 385 will avoid care. Others will not.