'I do not even know my own child' | Parents tell story of son's depression, suicide in hopes of savi
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- Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
- For the first time, Nathan Kocmond's mom and dad open up about their 16-year-old son's struggles and his decision to end his life.
I knew Nathan personally, he was my senior patrol leader, I still have the very last rank advancement badge he ever gave out, I still miss him every day.
I am sorry for the loss of your friend, Nathan. When I hear of young men taking their own lives, I have to wonder if he may have been dealing with feelings that he may have been gay. It happens a lot. In an obvious religious family, there must have been pressure on him not to be gay. Again, my condolences for the loss of your friend.
Also, I saw a report of another young man, a high school football player, who took his own life. One year later, to the day, his friend, another football player took his own life.
You cant control what others do. No one is to blame. God gave the gift of choice, you nor anyone can take that away. My dad killed himself cursing all my siblings but sending me a sad message of please forgive me for nit believing you when you were the only one being truthful. Choice.
So sorry.
I mask my sadness a lot it's scary how easy it is to hide
Depression and anxiety run in my family and with 2 of my children. One of my kids attenpted suicide twice and spent a week in the hospital. I will never stop worrying for my kids. I am so sorry. You did your best. He is always with you.
This is the stuff that makes me not wanna neck Myself or commit suicide in general
Why did you have kids then? Sounds pretty irresponsible
Generational trauma passed on. We need to learn to deal with our trauma, be better for our offspring, as do I.
@@thanos8107wtf is wrong with you
This is why I am not going to have children. They wouldn't stand a chance inheriting my brain chemistry and existing in today's world.
I lost my 23 years old son to suicide on June 5 23! Depression and anxiety is real! Support Suicide Awareness!
I lost my 22 year old son to suicide. He had depression and anxiety. He took his life in July 2017. I just lean on Jesus everyday to help me cope.
I lost my son to suicide 2021 , may God comfort you and heal you and give you joy and hope in this pain , it gets easier just give your pain to God 🙏🫂💐
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I’m so sorry for your profound loss. I also lost my son 3 months ago. I’m still in so much disbelief and it’s the worst pain.
Forever part of our family and forever loved.
🙏🏽🕊💙
@@pambennett4859
I’m so sorry. Lost my son 3 months ago.
It’s the most painful and multifaceted pain and grief
Timmy s mom forever loved
#GodsChild
I've been crying out "I'm not okay" for over a decade now and nobody cares. Sometimes, it's just time. Death is inevitable
I care, stranger. Glad you’re still here.
live out your time for your own sake, friend. no one else will. yeah, death is on the horizon, so what's the rush? king and pawn return to the same box at the end of the game, don't get too caught up in it.
We do not know each other but please know you matter. You have a purpose on this earth.
Please get some help from somewhere people do care
My 16 ye old son died by suicide recently and I tell you there is no denying the void of a life that should still be there. It might just feel like others don’t care. And that feeling can change. Get to a psychiatrist and then counselor they recommend that are established and good. If you really have parents that don’t care there is a whole life for after high school where you make your own path. Perspectives change. I never knew a person could hurt as bad as I do from loosing my son.
I had a severe concussion and a brain bleed when I was a child. My parents didn't even take me to hospital. They never cared. Two years ago I've got a heart attack and almost died. My dad told me this is my fault. I'm so depressed since then I often can't get out of my bed. Never had a normal life. Never had a normal job. Never had relationships will never have. My life was a complete nightmare since the beginning till this moment. My friend committed suicide six years ago. I'd do the same if I could but I can't do even this
Stay strong 💪🪨
That’s insane, I understand if they didn’t recognize your brain was bleeding since it’s internal, hard to tell, but the concussion part is very noticeable, they’d have to deliberately ignore something is wrong for that.
Idk your age, but I self-medicate with weed (legally) and that helps me. I used to be on Zoloft, an anti-depressant, that also helped. I know medication isn’t for everyone, but if ever you’ve decided that you’re going to take your own life, why not just stay here a tiny bit longer (in the grand scheme of things) to see if anti-depressants can help you.
@@user-sf9gs2pg1bWe had stuff like this in my family too, where major issues would get ignored or blamed on you. One time my youngest brother fell out of a tree and was very obviously concussed and he just recovered by laying down at home and that was it. I've had about 1-4 head injuries too, including being knocked unconscious, but they were probably less severe, but I didn't talk about getting knocked out for years because I thought my parents would scoff and say I was making it up. When I was 5-8 my parents would get mad at me for getting swollen and almost puking every time they'd force me to eat stuff I was allergic to, and a couple of times it took 3-6 months for us to get taken to a doctor for major health issues that wouldn't go away on their own, like multiple simultaneous bacterial infections or long-term untreated asthma leading to hypoxemia. My mom couldn't understand why I was a clean freak and OCD about germs for so many years because she and my dad were adults with money and a car so they could go to a doctor and get help any time they wanted but as an invisible and isolated kid, I had to wait for a parent to feel like helping me and since we didn't go to school, it's not like a school nurse could've told our parents to help us.
well just know that we do care..so sorry
Some parents don't qualify to be parents they just became. So sorry for your struggles. On the flip side, good friends can make up for family and even be better. I'm willing to be your friend😊
A concussion is a devasting brain injury that can cause severe physical, mental and emotional turmoil.
Absolutely disgusting comment you’re part of the problem this shits real
tbh most parents dont know their kids.. just a fact
I have 4 children. This is my nightmare. My 15 year old is always my biggest concern for this reason. Once she fell asleep with her door locked, (a rental that came with the lock) and her head phones on so she didn't hear my panicked knocking. I've never kicked a door down so fast. I was so terrified I'd find her dead. Parenting is the hardest thing I've ever done, especially when you don't know how to help them 😢 this poor family and that poor sweet child. ❤
Ms. Elaine,
If you have any kind of mental illness from either side of the family, you have to be very careful. Teenage years are really hard especially when the hormones kick in! ❤
You're the reason she's like this...get a grip and grow up and handle your emotions first
@@Bambotb .... I think you misunderstood my comment. You also don't know anything about us. What a strange and rude response to a stranger and not even the original content. Perhaps it's you that has difficulties managing your emotions with that style of communication. Have a good day.
@@elainewilson3076 No. You people claim we are out for attention and you people also claim its a mental illness. These are some of the reasons why no one opens up. You should have never had kids. Having kids is the most selfish thing anyone can ever do.
@@elainewilson3076I mean I don't know if U know how easy it is to mask depression or anger or suicidal thoughts but I do this is probably the worst year for me Im just getting worse tbh I hope U unlike my parents keep loving you're kids
When you raise kids to be scared of you, you get kids that will be afraid of telling you they are suicidal.
exactly, the lack of communication throughout the years is a sign he didn't feel safe talking with his parents.
Where is the information that Nathan was scared of his parents?
@@Star_coffeegirl the fact that he died and his parents have no idea why
bet they were good old "god fearing" christians
@@Star_coffeegirl Sometimes people don't talk to people they are scared of.
Sometimes you can tell your parents everything and still take your own life. I think they have enough grief without more guilt heaped on top
MY MOST SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS 🙏
Last year , I said bye, and I love you to my boyfriend of 6 years in a normal morning, I remembered he smiled back at me as usual then headed to work , later that afternoon his coworker found him hang himself in a small forest behind the employee car park , I got so many calls that day from different people, telling me the news , but I all did was repeatedly calling my boyfriend. He didn't answer since that day.
Keep calling he might pick up
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So many evil things happened to me, I don't know Why I am still alive.
It gets better and you will be able to help others that need help who went thru bad things
@Nimue333 Same here. I think God keeps us alive so we can tell our story to others so that they learn from it and can use it as a survival guide. ❤
YOU ARE ENOUGH AND WORTH IT❤
This is heartbreaking 😢 mental illnesses is at an all time high. Especially with our kids and youth. Recently my 15 yr old daughter had to be hospitalized for depression and thoughts of self harm. Her drs say the same she’s not a risk to herself but I have the same fears and thoughts that their wrong. I’m on eggshells every second worrying about her mental state and trying to help her keep the fight alive for overcoming this battle. My heartfelt condolences to his family. R.I.P. sweet boy 😢❤
As a Parent... You should talk with your daughter, and be there for your daughter. One thing I notice in all of these videos is that it seems like the parents really were never involved and just not there when the children needed it, or weren't there for the children to confide in.
I had abusive parents who I never trusted or could confide in, I tried hard towards the end to confide in my father, but he would just counter with all the bad he's had in his life and saying how everyone else has it bad too.`
It's crazy to me, seeing all these kids who have fun and actually have a life... Who are so depressed that they take it.
Do NOT medicate your child. It's probably the best thing you can do. I was medicated and it made everything SO much worse, not to mention it was incredibly hard to get off the pills when I was 17.
I'm 25 now and have had to deal with my trauma and issues by myself & with the help of my husband.
Look into a functional doctor who can test their blood and address nutrient deficiencies as well as gut health (regular psychiatrists & MD are idiots... I speak from firsthand experience & experience of others). Neuro feedback, EMDR, and CBT can be immensely helpful treatments. Address any generational trauma that plagues your family. Lastly, get them off the internet as much as possible...it made my mental health deteoriate quickly.
Best of luck.
“The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.”
Psalms 34:18
@@AlvinKazuI think it's more complicated than that. I have good parents, especially my mum, but I do not feel/want to confide in them when it comes to certain mental health issues. Anxiety is ok because I don't see stigma over it, but with more serious issues I don't talk to them about it at all because although I know they likely won't judge me, it's still scary confiding in the fact that you have had mood swings before & gone completely off the rails. I believe some of it's partly societal too.
Prayers for your daughter.
I started suffering from depression and mental health problems as a young teenager. It seemed to happen overnight. I remember trying to explain the thoughts to people who would say, “What are you depressed about?” Anyone who has been clinically depressed knows it feels more like possession than sadness. (IMO) Depression is terrifying because these thoughts seem to be generated by someone or something else. Kids don’t end their lives because they’re upset about failing a test. It’s as though the brain turns on itself and you’re not able to think rationally. I’m 52 now and after years of drug and alcohol addiction and therapy I’m sober and in a much better place. You can learn to live with this only when you can learn to love yourself. That’s easier said than done but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. My heart goes out to anyone struggling with depression or any mental health problems. Especially parents who lose their child to this terrible affliction. ❤🙏
There is no “missing of signs” and no failing to save. You talk, you take them to doctors, maybe you get them medication, but you cannot stay with them all the time.
I agree... Parents who never cared to ask what is wrong with their kids infuriates me.
thats why i hold on till my mom goes then i dont have a reason to be alive
me
REST IN PEACE HANDSOME NATHAN 🙏
I am so, so sorry for your loss...my hope for you is to reach a point where you can think about your precious son with a smile...not the mind bending grief I know you are experiencing right now...my heart breaks for you...RIP Nathan...
Usually kids runaway from their houses when there is some sort of conflict between the parents and child.
The reasons for running away are most likely the reasons he killed himself.
That was the thing for me I hated living with my mom's she treated us like garbage ! All the while the parents on here crying but never talk about how THEY REALLY TREATED HIM!!!
@@dominicbrogsdale3348 yep........gotta just walk away and start anew.......it's THEM who have the issue .....not you
@@rawfoodphilosophy7061 yup... That's exactly what I did! I'm thirty-six now when I was a teenager I ran away all the time and I was suicidal so I understand these kids! My mother is manipulative, guilt tripping, and she used to whup us like 150 times with a belt and called it love and discipline! But now I'm a adult and she wants a relationship well... To late you had you ur chance! Now she's tryna help my brother who's in prison for murder! Well guess who helped fuel that fire you mom! Thanks
But yup stay far from the nonsense and dysfunction!
@@dominicbrogsdale3348 Thats what I was trying to say in my original comment. They only care when we are dead. You dont know the full story on how he could have been treated. And had he had opened up everyone would most likely just claim he is an attention seeker. And other adults like the law if he was doing self harm the law would just accuse him of going through a teenage attention phase. Its good they did not stop him. Its the best punishment for parents and the government.
@@ageis3250 exactly.... and that seems to be the case why do you care when their dead!?!?! so sad!
and right when I was seeing a speicalist growing up that exactly what he said I was seeking attention but my mom never said how she beat me 150 times with a belt ,, and her and her abusive lover was emotionally abusive and I hated my life as a child!
and I hate to say it YEAH I hate to see teens do this but when they do parents want to get together , the schools , they wanna have meeting why does it take somthing so bad for you idoits to GET IT!!! just down right sad!
People just don’t wanna deal anymore. This was his fate by design. Don’t be angry, he is much happier now as sad as it may be.
He was designed by God to die at such an early age. .
Alright bub.
When you guys literally abandon the damn baby in a dark room all through their infancy, just to “teach” them to stay alone in their own rooms. The disconnect starts from there.
As a member of traditional Indian "family" suffering from suicidal ideation and depression for 3 years since I was 15 I can confirm this is just downright wrong
They don't even acknowledge mental health as a real thing in India, and will do anything to not let relatives judge them for their own sons and daughters suffering from depression. They will make us feel bad for not performing well enough in studies and isolate us because we "act crazy".
My sister co slept with all her children and is an amazing patient mother. 2 of her children have anxiety.
I'm struggling, I have been for years now. There are periods though (usually during exams) when I cry a lot. I think a lot, and am nostalgic/living in the past. But I do not want to die, I want it to get better. It's not either or, I just want to improve even though I'm depressed.
People do not know how hard it is to get help psychiatrist and others are money hungry giving meds with side effects of suicidal thoughts. Mental health need to be taking more seriously we need to have meds that are safer to take health care need to be free to many cant afford mental health psychiatrist and we need places that are run with respect not like a prison a normal person would not see these issues but when you're the person need help smh
We need talk therapy not drugs.
Meds impact everyone differently, I just wish they would check up on people who are taking meds right around the time side effects happen. Prozac made me suicidal, but Zoloft made me really happy. Now I just take weed, but the point is tons of people take Prozac and it works for them, it shouldn’t be taken off the market because “we need to have meds that are safer to take.” An “unsafe” med for me could be a “safe” one for you.
We need a better society, not drugs.
@@TheFate23 EXACTLY!
And I've done my part,no point in denying.
a parent is only happy as their unhappiest child. Heartbreaking.
May he Rest In Peace and my deepest condolences to his family and friends.
Do not blame parents!!! Mental health and addictions support is criminally inadequate in both the U.S. and Canada.
And Australia as I lost my daughter to Traralgon hospitals incompetence.
Sometimes all u need to do is talk and let them share their feelings instead of scolding and showing how much upset u r ...
"There are changes to people's lives, it is in the manner they manage life, and that they also impart, for them not to depart, but to be founded and established"
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As a mother of a teen boy this breaks me in pieces.
what a handsome boy! 😢heartbreaking
My cousin's sons jumped from 12th floor building in hongkong last may 01, 2024. My cousin is with her son when her son jumped
😢
I understand his pain,I have two years left
pray for me y'all i get the strong urge to go.
Nathan, May you rest in peace in the comfort of god.Pray for your family to bear the pain,you are such a beautiful child.
🙏🙏🙏🙏 from the mother of a suicide attempt survivor.
At the end it is important to understand that DOCTORS are ONLY humans.
We need to ask God more than anyone else but also each human being WILL make their own choices, good or bad here.
Courage for his family. ❤
That is so sad. So difficult.
God bless you. I'm so sorry for your loss. May the Lord touch your lives in an incredible way
How incredibly sad. People who don't have this mental affliction possibly can't relate. My deepest condolences go out to the family and friends of this young man.
bless his heart rip precious boy
Lost our 36 y.o.son in same way 5 years ago.Knew he was struggling but not depth of it.
Some parents want their kids to kill themselves lots of sick people out there
i remember reading about this, when it happened. The loss i cannot even imagine. truly sorry and send prayers to you all.
What a tremendous loss. 🙏
4 years ago, my 30 two-year-old daughter ended her life. The youngest of my 4 and I still don't believe it. It's still like a dream. I find it hard to face reality but I and our biggest regret. I shouldn't say the biggest regret, I guess. Her and maybe her husband's biggest regrets would be that they didn't say anything to me or theirecipients so it came as such a shock because we were an adult expected. Anything like we were told on March 25th 20 I have a hard time believing suicide is preventable. I truly believe that if someone wants to do it. Especially if there are adults like my daughter was who did a lot of research on it for months in advance. She had a plant she literally saw us through the whole holidays in 2019 and still had it played before him, and hers was not the face of depression. I don't know the pain she hadn't sighed. I couldn't eat that guestimate the pain. It just doesn't ever makes sense and would never will
My sincere condolences to his parents, family and friends. ❤️🩹
I have depression, anxiety issues, fatigue, low self esteem 😢also love Rock N Metal music like Led Zeppelin, Motorhead, Rush, Slipknot, Metallica, Lamb of God, Slayer, Exhorder, Exodus.
Rest In Peace Nathan!
Im so sorry. Its not your fault. You did everything you could. Im sorry for his and your pain.
My deepest condolences
I know your pain and I'm truly so sorry
Your boy was so young but just know you were amazing loving parents.
*Always best to get a second (possibly third) opinion w/ anything medical* Depression & anxiety don’t speak for themselves. Know the signs cuz ur child won’t be able to realize that what they are feeling is *NOT* normal.
A good looking, athletic kid gone too soon RIP 🤍🤙🏼
God is with him and you.
I thought your god sent suicidal people to hell?
He was such a handsome young man. My heart goes out to his parents. May he rest in peace.
What if he wasn't handsome?
@@watch-Dominion-2018 what if you didn’t guzzle come? You wouldn’t be a homo?
One needs to realise that FOOD is the CAUSE, WRONG FOOD ALONG WITH OTHER BAD DIET AND HABITS I MEAN, the near and dear ones will not know, but always symptoms are there which near and dear ones take as one of, and ignore. NEVER IGNORE unusual patterns of behaviour in your CHILD.
One thing to think about is perhaps he was gay and could not reconcile himself with that. It is very common for gay teenagers that are deep in the closet to commit suicide. They just can't cope with it. Try as they might, they can't change themselves. This is just something to think about; it may not be his story at all.
True they can't bear the thought of being made fun of and not fitting in! So sad
Or it could have been a result of the concussion. Depression can be a sympton according to the Mayo clinic. 🤷♀️
I need help but my mom said that I’m just looking for attention and over reacting after I asked her for it.
Parents are the issue 9/10 times. I'm sorry to hear about your situation. honestly.
Isaiah, 53 -5
1 Peter 2-24
I got directions from heaven for my son I put my hands on his head and I said these words from the Scriptures and it was a fierce battle but we are the victors he is healed in Jesus Christ name
My condolences for you and your beautiful son
I want this type of healing my name is Moses nieto may 11 1994 ❤
You can have the Healing
it’s for everyone God loves us all believe him. The truth is written believe it with all your heart stand on it you will see his salvation in Jesus name.
Better not to have kids.
Why people keep having children nowadays, makes no sense.
Life sucks big time.
Fax
Are you a pet lover? Imagine love magnified 100 times of loving your pet. That's what it is like having children. It's so worth it. I had 6 and one of them died by suicide. I would go through it all over again. Having children is the best thing in the world. I can see why someone on the outside looking in is seeing such a hassle and heartache. The best things in life come with those things.
@@charlenetijerina4664 I get your point of view but i have no life to have children and much less psychology to it and you can add physically i am already 46.Financialy i am ok because half of my family have some money.Ah my job sucks,i work at night.
I live depression all my life and there is no cure for it.
In my case it was better not to have children,yeah i am a very lonely person,i live alone.....the children will suffer a lot with me.
simple i am not ready or ever was to live....i have many issues that will never be resolve....i live day by day with money in the pocket so far and that's it.
Exactly life is not easy for humans
I umderstand you Nathan.
See you on the other side.
God Bless Nathan and his beautiful family 🙏🏼
How tragic. So sorry this happened to your family. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
No. Wrong takeaway. Watch your child: sure. But if they decide to end their own life, you cannot prevent this
hell no
So profoundly sad.
It wasn't God who was leading him to put on a shirt with a fallen angel on it. Weird attribution.
Exactly, he was obviously going through a spiritual attack. God did NOT lead him to do what he did. It's astounding how many Christians in the West are babies in their own faith and blaspheme God without even knowing it.
Hotline can only help before the incident or just immediately after the depression causing incident.
I really believe the football concussion caused this.just like so many other football players that suffer illness after a concussion..
You are right . I had a concussion 5 month ago . Not from football. I have social anxiety , cant feel Joy, and Depression now . Nothing Else. My life is gone
Always investigate and see if your child/teen is/was struggling with sexuality, is gay. Many LGBTQ teens are closeted and commit suicide. However, in this situation it appears it was due to the football concussion. I would never let my child play football.
that is SOOO sad! I hate hearing about how gay people feel to scared to come out and then kill themselves it should never be that way! And ya omg football is SOOO SCARY! I am extremely worried for football players! :(
God bless you all, the signs will carry you forward until you are together again.
Mighty love, blessings and the Comfort of the Legions of Angels to Nathans family x
I intuitively feel it was the concussion. He may have had normal teenage confusion, hormones, and anxiety, but a concussion will just push you over the edge.
It's very real.. I deal with it everyday..
💔 💕🇿🇦 for Nathan's family.
I’m struggling. I’ve recently lost hearing in my ears and am dealing with a benzodiazepine withdrawal benzo belly. I’m also only able to sleep every other night.
I'm sorry, beloved. You're not alone and you deserve to continue on living. God is in love with you ❤
life is pain
So sorry 😞 from Glasgow Scotland 💚🧡💚
Every 30 seconds??? What are we doing wrong??!
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Pain is too much sometimes. I know.
God bless you all. 💙🙏
Blame the parents
Why
@@watch-Dominion-2018His son was taught to hide his emotions from his parents from a very early stage in his life and he kept the mask on. If he could rely on his own parents for true help and felt comfortable opening up to them, he wouldn't have done what he did. I know this sounds harsh but the blunt reality is, children are a product of their own environment and the trust he had in his own family wasn't there. I'm not saying we should play the blame game, as there's always factors involved we don't know, but if people actually did some deep unpacking of these situations, it's not hard to come up with these conclusions, especially if you've been through it yourself.
It's ok not to be ok ... That's what people may say ..but in the end they too just walk away and it's only their comment that's left there to stay ... What is depression they ask? ... Perhaps it's something that's happened to you in the past .. or perhaps you're worried about the future ? Usually it's here take this pill .. go to therapy .. everything will be ok ... You'll get through this too.. Don't worry they say .. but in the end they too just walk away .. they don't seem to understand that Some people feel like an outcast in this land .. full of people that just don't understand .... Just like this story about Nathan He was in the boy scouts and on the football team .. he had a great family n friends and his number was 42 .. he seemed to have everything but before everyone knew it his life was through .. but he suffered from depression.. and no one knew really how to help him.. or what to do ... and now they share this memory of him so that people may not soon forget what him and his family went through and perhaps prevent this terrifying event from happening to you ... His family Wonders why he wore that t shirt of a fallin angel but I know why that is and my answer is true every 30 seconds there's another fallin angel dying of suicide and this time Nathan that fallen angel you wore represented you 💜
Weak parenting can be a big problem as well. The delusional reliance on religion is a pedestrian coping mechanism.
If there is evil...where is God....he can be a real cruel God
His purpose is to heal evil in each of us and to deliver us. He doesn't have an evil bone in His body. We come here to experience good and evil, we decide who we want to become.
CTE?
GOD BLESS YOU 🙏🏼
Im so very sorry for your loss. Im struggling with the loss of my son. And the grief it has inflicted upon our family. I feel ive also lost my teen son now to grief. He has changed in such a way i cant recognize. 😢 i dont know what to do. I show as much love as I can while still trying to demand respect with disobedience.
Am not ok am21 and no-one can understand me
Those medical team is was 💩! He’s neurodivergent! Sweet baby I’m so sorry !! MEDICAL FAILED HIM
Committing suicide is not enduring to the end (Matthew 24:13). It is not abiding in Christ (John 15:1-6). It is not continuing in His goodness (Romans 11:22). It is not holding fast the word (1 Corinthians 15:2). It is definitely being moved away from the hope of the gospel (Colossians 1:23). It is not holding fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end (Hebrews 3:6). It is not holding the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end (Hebrews 3:14). It is refusing and turning away from Him who speaks from heaven (Hebrews 12:25). And, it is not overcoming the world (1 John 5:4), but rather being overcome by the world and the devil (1 Peter 5:8). That doesn't happen to those "born of God."
We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. (1 John 5:18).
The above list of false teaching on suicide opens wide the door of death and Hades (Luke 16:19-31; Revelation 20:11-15) to those in despair.
Some might argue, "What about Samson? He committed suicide." Samson's "suicide" was actually an act of war, as he killed three thousand Philistines in his vengeance upon them (Judges 16:28-30). He died in his effort to kill others, as he said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" (Judges 16:30). It was not, as a typical suicide of our day, because of a lack of hope, or a deranged mind. He died with the Philistines to "take vengeance on the Philistines" for his two eyes (Judges 16:28). Plus, this was the only choice he had, to kill them as he did.
Typical suicidal people today are those who have no hope, and they are thus not in Christ (Ephesians 2:12; 1 Peter 1:3; 3:15), or they have been moved away from the hope of the gospel and are thus lost (Colossians 1:21-23). Those with deranged minds, or who "might have a mental breakdown," are those who do not have a sound mind and are therefore not in Christ (Isaiah 26:3; 2 Timothy 1:7). These people will end up in hell if they die in such a state. Such people are not saved.
On the cross and in His death, Jesus did not lose or forsake hope in God nor rebel against Him as those who commit suicide today do. Moreover, no man could or can do what Christ did, lay His life down of Himself (John 10:18; Ecclesiastes 8:8 “No one has power over the spirit to retain the spirit”). He also was murdered by men (Acts 7:52).
Paul says,
if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, . . . (Colossians 1:23).
Jesus said,
he who endures to the end shall be saved (Matthew 24:13).
God does not promise salvation to those who forsake Him (e.g. 1 Chronicles 28:9; John 15:1-6; Hebrews 10:26-31). Paul warns,
Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. (Rom 11:22 NKJ)
“Mental Illness” (as in the realm we are talking, suicide, self-destructive behavior) is a symptom of a “debased mind” (Romans 1:28). When someone is so utterly given over to wickedness, hopelessness, and rejection of Christ that they kill themselves (as masochistic behavior is noted as demonic in Scripture, Mark 5:2-5; Ephesians 5:29 “no one ever hated his own flesh”), such behavior reveals there is no faith in Christ. God has made Himself very clear: “the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10), the “unbelieving” go to the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). The Bible is not a lie.
The impulsivness could be a mild pre - symptom of sub concussions before.
The dopamineric System maybe had damaged before. This leeds to ADHD like symptoms and less buffering to impulsiveness. Greez from Germany.
How did he die. What was the method? Living with anxiety and depression is hell😢.
Same here. The parents can't help
masters of disguise
gone too young😢😢😢😢
RIP Nathan 🙏 🪦 😢😢😢
( sick disease took him way
too early 😢😢😢😢😢😢 )
I had3 concussios now and major stress..goin soon myself
Don't go ❤❤
WHY?
I just want to ask one simple question: " Did the parents actually tried to understand him or they just resorted to methods used by sex addict older generations ?"
WTH ? What are you talking about?
Are you nuts?
@@Star_coffeegirl think he meant telling him to have sex as a solution to his emotional traumas
@@blueberry12342 interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks
@@blueberry12342
That doesn't really help, though
Very sad. God Bless
As the man (Gen 1:26-28) KJV, a husband (Gen 2:21-25) and a father (Gen 3:16), the minister of God (Rom 13), teacher (Eph 4) and one of the survivors who was bullied in school, I am so sorry this happened to Nathan. His family has my condolences.
Rip
Flipping pschos need to do an experiental degree before they qualify...😢
It’s so sad because he will never see the hawk tuah girl video 😭😭
God is good he help your family with your lost .
I notice that mostly all of the stories of male suicide the men are always attractive. I know everyone who commits suicide is not attractive.
Malaysia, realisation when? Oh, wait! All they bothered is telling long paragraphs of how they life were during their times. It's not like kids now's times is any different than how it was in the 80s or 90s.