Important to note that the data only includes failed drives, as it is from a data recover company. Reliability data from Backblaze would be far more useful.
Nothing wrong with a little extra storage. I used to do desktop support for 12 years and drive failures weren't as common as people say. We had about 1600 desktops and like 400 laptops. I did thorough tests of all the drives I encountered for issues, machine checkups, and rebuilds for a new user... and not too many had issues. Co workers would just throw in a new drive if windows had a blue screen and call it a drive failure, but I liked to actually check. This was from drives ranging from 30gb up to 500gb when I left (and ssd's being increasingly popular).
Me rebooting my XP rig that sat for 10 years on a 17 year old seagate 250gb lol. Still works. But I kinda wanna get something faster. Keep my XP rig for retro gaming
I have a western digital I've had in my PC for about 10 years now still running great. It actually has been getting a lot of use over the last year or so also
My old hard drive died recently after having used it constantly for 13 years through over 10 different os installs and through a earthquake the thing was a beast
I believe I have a netbook (with a HDD) from 2008, Windows XP :D . And my PC from 2009, still works ( i7 first ever gen), with an old HDD, while has been used savagely for large print files and video editing all those years (till 2020, but it's still alive, still works without ANY failure). It used many versions of Windows. Oh, and my sister has a laptop with HDD, I believe from 2007.
As a person fixing computers, harddrives usually last way longer than 3 years and Toshiba 2.5inch are by far the worst harddrives reliability wise, to the point that when I get broken laptop I don't even bother testing it, I straight up replace it.
old SSDs may not fail as easily but when they do it's far harder to recover and you get less warning. not to mention other problems like the higher risk of your SSD/usbstick data being degraded or erased by going too long without power or OS maintenance tasks running.
Please also note that SSDs when not powered, will have your data dissipated through passive discharge. For back up/IO non-intensive storages, harddisk does the job better. I had my WD blue going nearly 10 years, plugged in and used everyday, still going strong without bad sectors
Hard drives can work forever in their ideal condition (optimal temps, no shaking or at least no movement that could damage the mechanical pieces inside), SSD will last as long as their cells are rather for.
SSD -> PC Storage (Games, Windows, etc) HDD -> Cloud Storage (you won't be using it as often as your main rig anyway) (unless you need real fast storage for a cloudserver)
I have 2 barracuda hard drive from 2015 and both of them still work I use them for saving live videos and they are still working perfectly they were the cheapest models
I had a Hitachi drive which lasted 11 years but it had stopped working as i opened it up a few months ago. I’ve got a Seagate HDD which was made in 1998 and it still works. It uses IDE and only has 40GB
I still had a WD 1tb HDD that still worked after 5 years before i upgraded my PC.I got another black WD 2tb HDD for extra storage where i can put non-gaming stuff and my mods and other stuff.I use SSD for boot and gaming tho.
My Seagate Barracuda 2TB is going on 6 years and still runs fine. I've had drives fail really quickly before and that was due to them being mounted in a hard drive cage. My current one is mounted to the floor of my case with thick rubber grommets on the screws and has a fan bringing air across it constantly. Quietest drive I've ever had too.
SSDs still have a limited read-write so they can also fail abruptly. they are more reliable overall and ofc faster, but the price to size ratio isn't quite there yet. A high capacity spinning platter drive over 2tb is still preferred for well... mass storage of files.
As someone who used to work at a computer repair shop, I find the Toshiba thing so hard to believe. Most of the bad drives we'd replace were... Toshiba. And it wasn't even close.
Due to an acquisition of manufacturing facilities many Toshiba drives are built using the same lines as Hitachi's extremely reliable enterprise offerings. Also this video is going to be non-representative of actual reliability because of how the data was acquired.
Data recovery engineer here. can confirm. 3-5 years is the lifespan of most drives. Newer drives have even more issues due to caching an additional complexity thanks to smr… looking at you seagate. You especially. Stupid media cach corruption, translat… “continues to grumble for a while” Oh and a lot of helium drives have no soothing for recovery or they are crazy stupid expensive to recover from.
BS, The hard drive from my first PC is still working fine in my dad's PC. That drive is over 15 years old. I also used a hard drive in my previous build from 2016 until last year than sold it to my cousin and from what I know it's still working fine. Both WD drives
My WD Blues are respectively 10, 8 and 6 years old and they work like the first day, with almost 24H uptime everyday. Hard drives that fail often are the 2,5" portable ones, because of the smaller tolerances and the hits they can get while moving, 3,5 drives that stay still inside a desktop PC have a pretty long life.
I have a 1tb WD enterprise drive from 2012 which worked for 33k hours and still doesn’t have a single bad sector. Speeds are pretty wild too for a drive that old.
I laughed a little at the “Stop using these hard drives, before it’s too late” while showing a Seagate drive. Lol. I stopped using Seagate more than 10 years ago.
Why do hard disk drives fail sooner? A lot of factors: 1. Excessive use, for example an HDD rated for 55 TB/year, but the workload is 80 TB/year. 2. Bad power supply (PSU) will give overcharge voltage and fry hard disk drives sooner. 3. Turning it on and off frequently in a short time. And doing this so often. All kind of HDDs hate this, because it will damage the spinning motor and the platter. 4. If the HDD is rarely turned on for years, it will also damages the spinning motor. The motor lubrications and bearings inside the HDD will harden and barely turn. 4. Manufacturing defects, no matter what the HDD brand, this hard to notice. 5. Refurbished HDD tend to have lower quality.
That's why datacenters installing drivers with months in between so you Lower the risk of multiple drives at once. Mtbf is the factor that determines how long you can expect your drive to work without issues
Hitachi have always been the most reliable. Toshiba the second and Wd have always been the worst. There is something wrong with this data, as Maxtor and Samsung havent been on the market for a long time and Hitachi stopped making drives too. Also: HDDs often outperform ssds in reliability as they don't have limited read/write cycle count
My first hard drive is 500GB Toshiba external HDD I bought with my own money in 2010. It's still working as I plugged to my computer last week. In fact, all of my other 3 external HDD are still working and the newest was bought in 2013
My one tb Samsung 980 pro completely failed after half a year idk if it was defective or something but definitely upsetting,moral of the story ALWAYS back up your drive no matter how new or stable
I use a 5-year-old WD Purple and it’s still going strong! 150MB read and write, even though it's like 5 years old. It was not powered on for most of that time, but has been turned on 826 times and 14,122 hours turned on. And 8% of it is being used.
Found this out for myself the hard way. Moving to SDD and cloud backups. Let other people worry about constantly swapping out bad disks and making sure my files' integrity is kept.
My ADATA 480GB SSD died in less than 8 months. One day it was not detected by the computer anymore. I tried it in other computers, checked the connections, couldn't find anything. It barely wrote around 3 or 4 TB of data in total on it, when it was rated to resist at least 180TB. It was used only for seeding torrents, only uploading. I switched to a 2TB Barracuda HDD since then for the same price, it's over 2 years and it's still working flawlessly.
Got close to 45.000 hours on my latest WD black with zero bad sectors or issues of any kind, I just replaced it with a bigger one and I'm still using it for offline storage. For the amount of storage I need (including backups) switching to SSDs would be unreasonably expansive, plus I've seen a lot of these fail unexpectedly long before their advertised lifespan, so I'm not convinced they're really worth the investment.
Do the stats/lifetimes shown apply only to internal HDDS or external ones aswell? I assume there shouldn't be much difference between internal and external ones, SSDs(have them in my PC) should be better in any case I am aware of that, I'm just curious since my dad uses a lot of external HDDs for longer-term storage😅
I bought a Toshiba drive long time ago it lasted for 2 weeks before it went bad. Got it replaced by warranty and it lasted just 2 years, just as warranty expired. Great experience would not recommend.
Toshiba does make pretty solid HDDs in my opinion. My original 500 gig drive that came with the satellite c640 still works after 12+ years (bought in circa 2011 - 2012) and numerous trojan attacks mostly from miners and thumb drive viruses
My IBM 181MB drive is still running and that's like 30 years old
Yhea at least it’s more then 180mb 😂
He's shilling SSD that's why
" Proven to last longer than SSD's " my ass
I got a 41MB Miniscribe 8051a and it's still running fine just fine.
20mb unknown manufacturer still working. It’s starting to fail, but still working
@@theswedishpanda simple lesson : SSD for speed, hdd for shelf life
“SSDs last longer!” The Samsung 980 Pro 2TB:
That was just firmware issues im pretty sure
He means in transfering data
He's a fucking shill yeah
" Muh it's proven " bruhhh
crucial p3 ""mommy I'm dying """
@@tstandsfortheodore No
My hdd is reaching 11 years old, and still going strong.
How much space is filled and how often do you write data to it?
@JohnathanBalls it all varies. I like to regularly swap OS, and it often fills pretty quickly.
@@synthwavesoundscape1893 imma need one of those lol 11 years and active use that things a beast
mine's 12
And yet my 2 "vault" wd blues have been running for 5 to 6 years.
Important to note that the data only includes failed drives, as it is from a data recover company. Reliability data from Backblaze would be far more useful.
Thank you very much for this comment! It saves opinions of people, who doubts or just came to computer part's
I have 2 TB Wd drive for 10 years and still works mashallah
same. my toshiba p300 2tb still going strong
Do u use it regularly?
@@swarajtilekar3836 mostly games
Same
got a 160gb 2006 drive still running
I have multiple WD 1 TB blue drives going on 10 years. Still work fine.
Same
Same
Same
I got multiple WDC10EZEX drives from 2021, 2013, 2014 and 2018
Still working fine
I got one from 2011 and still work fine
I recently pulled out a Toshiba drive from an old laptop from 2018 and decided to use it for my desktop PC, and she's alive and running
Storage capacity: 320gb
Nothing wrong with a little extra storage.
I used to do desktop support for 12 years and drive failures weren't as common as people say. We had about 1600 desktops and like 400 laptops.
I did thorough tests of all the drives I encountered for issues, machine checkups, and rebuilds for a new user... and not too many had issues. Co workers would just throw in a new drive if windows had a blue screen and call it a drive failure, but I liked to actually check.
This was from drives ranging from 30gb up to 500gb when I left (and ssd's being increasingly popular).
@@volvo09 the coworkers actually did that?
@@MAWIMO0 If your salary would still be the same why would you care to do your best?
@@prizrak-br3332 mm true
My toshiba 1tb still works after 10 years
Same
Same, but I have a 300 Gb, instead of 1 tb
Same but 500 gb and 13 years old
All toshiba drives I had failed except one. No other drive has ever failed on me.
same but 750gb
Been using my Hitachi 250GB since 2009 and it up to 64574 hours and still works mashallah.
Where do you see those hours?
Ive had a 2007 seagate barracuda 1.5tb for 13 yrs with no issues, running daily in my pc, got it secondhand too
You've been lucky so far time to buy a new one.
Me rebooting my XP rig that sat for 10 years on a 17 year old seagate 250gb lol.
Still works. But I kinda wanna get something faster. Keep my XP rig for retro gaming
I have a western digital I've had in my PC for about 10 years now still running great. It actually has been getting a lot of use over the last year or so also
My old hard drive died recently after having used it constantly for 13 years through over 10 different os installs and through a earthquake the thing was a beast
Me with my 1TB used Seagate HDD from 2014 working perfectly
I have a laptop with a hard drive from 2014 and it's still works great running Linux
I believe I have a netbook (with a HDD) from 2008, Windows XP :D . And my PC from 2009, still works ( i7 first ever gen), with an old HDD, while has been used savagely for large print files and video editing all those years (till 2020, but it's still alive, still works without ANY failure). It used many versions of Windows. Oh, and my sister has a laptop with HDD, I believe from 2007.
As a person fixing computers, harddrives usually last way longer than 3 years and Toshiba 2.5inch are by far the worst harddrives reliability wise, to the point that when I get broken laptop I don't even bother testing it, I straight up replace it.
old SSDs may not fail as easily but when they do it's far harder to recover and you get less warning. not to mention other problems like the higher risk of your SSD/usbstick data being degraded or erased by going too long without power or OS maintenance tasks running.
Its actually suprising that rn i am using Toshiba HDD and its the only disk i had
I have a Hitachi one that's 15 yo this year and still works to this day
My ten 2TB Western Digital Green have 90000h on count and they still good with no bad sectors or such a thing 👍
Please also note that SSDs when not powered, will have your data dissipated through passive discharge. For back up/IO non-intensive storages, harddisk does the job better. I had my WD blue going nearly 10 years, plugged in and used everyday, still going strong without bad sectors
This is why I buy enterprise drives for my PC. Those are made to last
samsung 1tb from 2009 still working, no smart errors yet
My Hitachi HDD in my laptop has been going strong for 11 years and it aint gonna fail soon
Do you have problems with performance speeds? I think the HDD is just old or filling up but my OS is stuck on it and it takes several minutes to boot.
@@Buttered-knife No, it boots instantly. I recently did a clean reinstall of windows, so I recommend that
@@Lynxium_ mine was also a refurb. I gotta get a new storage device. 2tb SSD to expensice
same
Hard drives can work forever in their ideal condition (optimal temps, no shaking or at least no movement that could damage the mechanical pieces inside), SSD will last as long as their cells are rather for.
I use a 256GB SSD for booting my PC and a 1TB WD hard drive for my files that aren’t windows files and it has been working great
I remember having to switch these every three years or so. I love ssds
Its true,my wd drive is good,but hitachi is starting to make clicking noise on my dell inspiron 530,replaced with another spare wd drive
I use nas drive wd redplus in my pc.
My first hard drive in 2017 started to show me failure signs in december 2022 and can still be used in certain circumstances 💀
Bro I'm still using iMac 2015 with a 1tb hard drive for everything, yet still in good condition
Meanwhile ssd break in 2 years for new macs
This reminds me. I need to actually look at the smart reports from all 36 drives of my NAS
My wd of 11 years gave up on Me (fortunately had extracted the data) and my Hitachi of 7 years is still going strong
SSD -> PC Storage (Games, Windows, etc)
HDD -> Cloud Storage (you won't be using it as often as your main rig anyway) (unless you need real fast storage for a cloudserver)
me watching this on an 11 year old laptop with a sata hard drive
Still rocking the Toshiba hard drive in 2023, got it in 2017 and now using it as a secondary drive
Ive been using a Toshiba hard drive for 10 years.
Idk who took these tests, but in my experience Hitachi are some of the best drives you can get. I have one in my desktop with 60k+ hrs.
Thats the point. Conveniently he doesn't name the source. Whole video is a trust me bro
I have 2 barracuda hard drive from 2015 and both of them still work I use them for saving live videos and they are still working perfectly they were the cheapest models
My 1TB Toshiba drive is still going strong after 6 years of gaming 👍🏻
I’ve had my two 1TB HDDs for over 10 years and their surprisingly still working quite well
I had a Hitachi drive which lasted 11 years but it had stopped working as i opened it up a few months ago. I’ve got a Seagate HDD which was made in 1998 and it still works. It uses IDE and only has 40GB
I still had a WD 1tb HDD that still worked after 5 years before i upgraded my PC.I got another black WD 2tb HDD for extra storage where i can put non-gaming stuff and my mods and other stuff.I use SSD for boot and gaming tho.
You are right, I got a 1Tb hdd hard drive 3 years ago and It crashed today leading to my lose of lots of important data 😢
My Seagate Barracuda 2TB is going on 6 years and still runs fine. I've had drives fail really quickly before and that was due to them being mounted in a hard drive cage. My current one is mounted to the floor of my case with thick rubber grommets on the screws and has a fan bringing air across it constantly. Quietest drive I've ever had too.
my hitachi and toshiba drives have been running for about 5 years now lmao
SSDs still have a limited read-write so they can also fail abruptly. they are more reliable overall and ofc faster, but the price to size ratio isn't quite there yet. A high capacity spinning platter drive over 2tb is still preferred for well... mass storage of files.
Important to note that SSDs are not suitable for long storage use. Meaning saving and storing the drive long time without electricity
I have been using my hard drive for 13 years and I have had no issues
HIIIII I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS DUDE KEEP UP THE GREAT CONTENT
I still have a working Hitachi drive from 2008ish mounted in an external enclosure.
Wouldn't put anything important on it but it works
As someone who used to work at a computer repair shop, I find the Toshiba thing so hard to believe. Most of the bad drives we'd replace were... Toshiba. And it wasn't even close.
Due to an acquisition of manufacturing facilities many Toshiba drives are built using the same lines as Hitachi's extremely reliable enterprise offerings.
Also this video is going to be non-representative of actual reliability because of how the data was acquired.
I have a 2 TB HGST drive from 2012 that still works to this day. No bad sectors at all
Data recovery engineer here. can confirm. 3-5 years is the lifespan of most drives. Newer drives have even more issues due to caching an additional complexity thanks to smr… looking at you seagate. You especially. Stupid media cach corruption, translat… “continues to grumble for a while”
Oh and a lot of helium drives have no soothing for recovery or they are crazy stupid expensive to recover from.
BS, The hard drive from my first PC is still working fine in my dad's PC. That drive is over 15 years old. I also used a hard drive in my previous build from 2016 until last year than sold it to my cousin and from what I know it's still working fine. Both WD drives
what report is this referring to?
Wow, I thought the Toshiba drive is making my computer running slow, so I removed it
My Toshiba hard drive is still working just fine after 10 years in my laptop
My iMac from 13 years ago with HDD still standing strong
Can confirm my WD Blue 1TB starting sounds really unhappy at about 2.5 years old. It was clicking really loud and violently.
My Seagate HDD still works perfectly and out lived my Intenso SSD, both with 4 years of use. Since then I named my HDD "Chad"
My wd green that's been with me for 7+ years so far: OK buddy
My WD Blues are respectively 10, 8 and 6 years old and they work like the first day, with almost 24H uptime everyday. Hard drives that fail often are the 2,5" portable ones, because of the smaller tolerances and the hits they can get while moving, 3,5 drives that stay still inside a desktop PC have a pretty long life.
I have a 1tb WD enterprise drive from 2012 which worked for 33k hours and still doesn’t have a single bad sector. Speeds are pretty wild too for a drive that old.
My iPod 5th gen is still running great with no bad sectors on the drive 👍
I laughed a little at the “Stop using these hard drives, before it’s too late” while showing a Seagate drive. Lol. I stopped using Seagate more than 10 years ago.
Why do hard disk drives fail sooner? A lot of factors:
1. Excessive use, for example an HDD rated for 55 TB/year, but the workload is 80 TB/year.
2. Bad power supply (PSU) will give overcharge voltage and fry hard disk drives sooner.
3. Turning it on and off frequently in a short time. And doing this so often. All kind of HDDs hate this, because it will damage the spinning motor and the platter.
4. If the HDD is rarely turned on for years, it will also damages the spinning motor. The motor lubrications and bearings inside the HDD will harden and barely turn.
4. Manufacturing defects, no matter what the HDD brand, this hard to notice.
5. Refurbished HDD tend to have lower quality.
finally an answer to my question which hdd is the most reliable
This data really isn't representative, you should be looking at the Backblaze lifespan and reliability days.
Servers having HDD's around the world storing Tons of data.
👁️👄👁️
My 1989 Mac SE/30’s 40mb hard drive: “Those are rookie numbers”
The Toshiba drive in my 13 year old laptop is still going
That's why datacenters installing drivers with months in between so you Lower the risk of multiple drives at once. Mtbf is the factor that determines how long you can expect your drive to work without issues
I've never had a hard drive fail on me, my 2009 western digital black hard drive still works just fine
Hitachi have always been the most reliable. Toshiba the second and Wd have always been the worst. There is something wrong with this data, as Maxtor and Samsung havent been on the market for a long time and Hitachi stopped making drives too.
Also: HDDs often outperform ssds in reliability as they don't have limited read/write cycle count
My HDD been going strong for 8 years now.
Still using a 320 GB Hitachi drive from 2009. No reallocated or current pending sectors and working fine.
My first hard drive is 500GB Toshiba external HDD I bought with my own money in 2010. It's still working as I plugged to my computer last week. In fact, all of my other 3 external HDD are still working and the newest was bought in 2013
My one tb Samsung 980 pro completely failed after half a year idk if it was defective or something but definitely upsetting,moral of the story ALWAYS back up your drive no matter how new or stable
My hitach drive from 10 years ago is still working
I use a 5-year-old WD Purple and it’s still going strong! 150MB read and write, even though it's like 5 years old. It was not powered on for most of that time, but has been turned on 826 times and 14,122 hours turned on. And 8% of it is being used.
Found this out for myself the hard way.
Moving to SDD and cloud backups. Let other people worry about constantly swapping out bad disks and making sure my files' integrity is kept.
My ADATA 480GB SSD died in less than 8 months. One day it was not detected by the computer anymore. I tried it in other computers, checked the connections, couldn't find anything. It barely wrote around 3 or 4 TB of data in total on it, when it was rated to resist at least 180TB. It was used only for seeding torrents, only uploading. I switched to a 2TB Barracuda HDD since then for the same price, it's over 2 years and it's still working flawlessly.
He fails to mention, if you just have automated backups, and SMART enabled, it’s not something to worry about.
My HITACHI is now 15 years old. It has been running all its life in my makeshift home media server, and has no bad sectors.
The IDE 3.5 hard drive I have form 2001 is running like a champ.
I have a 250gb Caviar HDD from 2006. It's still working completely fine.
“Everyone should be moving to SSD’s now” I challenge you to find me a 60$ 4TB SSD
My 60 GB hard drive from 20 year Old laptop is still working and i trust it more than cloud storage. It still has my precious memeories.
I've had a toshibe 1TB drive up and running on my pc that i use daily since 2015 and it works flawlesly
I have a lot of old HDD. All seagate. All still running for now.
Got close to 45.000 hours on my latest WD black with zero bad sectors or issues of any kind, I just replaced it with a bigger one and I'm still using it for offline storage.
For the amount of storage I need (including backups) switching to SSDs would be unreasonably expansive, plus I've seen a lot of these fail unexpectedly long before their advertised lifespan, so I'm not convinced they're really worth the investment.
I use WD and have been for 20 years (mostly for backup now), and never had a failure issue.
I have my dad's old desktop as a second PC and that HDD has 57000 hours of life. She's still holdin strong
Do the stats/lifetimes shown apply only to internal HDDS or external ones aswell? I assume there shouldn't be much difference between internal and external ones, SSDs(have them in my PC) should be better in any case I am aware of that, I'm just curious since my dad uses a lot of external HDDs for longer-term storage😅
Me with a hdd from the 80s that still works
My Hitachi hdd got bad after 11 years its damn reliable man
I bought a Toshiba drive long time ago it lasted for 2 weeks before it went bad. Got it replaced by warranty and it lasted just 2 years, just as warranty expired. Great experience would not recommend.
My Toshiba 5400rpm Laptop HDD lasted around 8 years, and I still have an old Seagate from 2007 which somehow still works perfectly
I use one closing in on 20 years old, no issues (the adapter is actually giving me more issues these days)
My 500mb hard drive is running after 11years, probably should get a new one
hard drives are best for archival work or similar jobs but ssds are best for on the go. what's best for your computer is what matches your work flow.
Toshiba does make pretty solid HDDs in my opinion. My original 500 gig drive that came with the satellite c640 still works after 12+ years (bought in circa 2011 - 2012) and numerous trojan attacks mostly from miners and thumb drive viruses