"The missionaries were very irritated by these women" -- I just love the way she says this, it's so heartening and powerful. Anyone fighting for change is bound to ruffle some feathers, and 'irritate' some people, and that's okay.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 how petty are you? Looks like you are jealous that she is a person who has achieved something in her life while you have done nothing except trolls RUclips channels working for good
Patriarchy also gets really irritated when someone wears so called short clothes. For them such clothes are revealing in some way. I don't know how someone's legs can be revealing actually. They are almost the same for every person out there 😂.I think when we wear what we want we are actually breaking the core of patriarchal control. I find these nadar women quite an inspiration . If clothing can be used to resist caste discrimination,it can also be used to fight against patriarchy. Clothes are the breakthrough🔥
@@महात्माआंधी Hindu means the person of Indus or Indian regardless of religion, nothing else. The people like you who have not achieved anything in life and hate our Indian unity write comments to disrespect it without even knowing the history of India itself. Hinduism is a western concept Indian concept of Hinduism is Indian mythology regardless of religion. So try to do something good instead of writing Hateful nonsense.
This is not the complete history, but one side version only. Why just Nadar women? Why you are not telling the full true history? What about Nair women then? Nair women's where also not allowed to where upper cloths in front of brahmins or nambudiris. What about Ezhava women, pulaya women, SC/ST women all where not allowed to where upper cloths....not just Nadar women...Nadar groups fought against it because they where the strongest to among who had the capability to face brahmin or nambudiris during that time in Travancore or Trivandrum.
Only nadar women resist the bhramin in trivancore. Because nadars culture is wearing upper clothes. But these bhramins imposing their topless women culture into Nadar community, that time the nadar women were resist this act. Note: mean while all other casts are topless include nair girls
@@pratheepgv6037Sir, There are various references to Tamil speaking Vellalas, Maravas etc as attacking the Tamil speaking Shanars aka Nadars since the 18th Century C.E in history and it had nothing to do with any Malayali-castes including Kings. Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) - “In this land of Malabar (Kerala) from cumbla (kasaragod district) to cape comorin (kanyakumari district), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam) The stories of some backward-caste and scheduled-caste that their ancestors had to cut off their head and breast to protest against the head tax and breast tax in the 19th century is not attested by any historical records as Swami Vivekananda himself has said that "In malabar (Kerala) the women lead in everything. Exceptional cleanliness is apparent everywhere and there is the greatest impetus to learning" (source - The complete works of Vivekananda vol.7) : The occupational taxes referred to as 'Thalakaram or Thalavila' (head tax) and 'Mulakaram or Mulavila' (breast tax) and 'Enikaram or Enivila' (ladder tax) etc since the 9th Century C.E in the historical accounts of Kerala were the names of the taxes as pertaining to the male and female labourers for the ladders and rope-belts they used to climb the coconut palms in Kerala hence such similar taxes were also imposed on the non-native labourers who used to migrate between Tamil Nadu and Kerala with the seasonal flow of sap from palmyra trees such as the caste-group 'Pandi Channan (Nadar)' in History as well.
Yes uppercaste stooges like you always live in delusion. Who think that their atrocious casteist and oppressive sanathan dharma is the greatest in the world😂
Well even if there is not any official documentation the story plus the act depicted in it gives it enough legitimacy to be something worthy to be known ! Breast tax was a brutally horrific reality of the extremely abusive system of caste based discrimination!
@Arya k thank u for ur abuse was expected from a person like u . It is a folklore nobody has any concrete proof of it ! Get ur definition of things right before maliciously alleging things .Folklore is folklore may or may not be backed by historical evidence .But can people like u understand it ? Too much to ask from a random swearer...... ..hate Mubarak!
@Arya k can u be a little more misogynst and Casteist than this ??? Do u even recognize the ugliness of ur words? DO NOT PUT UR FILTH WHICH U ARE FULL OF EVERYWHERE U GO ! As far as the richness of kerala is concerned people there perform best on social factors there , ur patriarchal and casteist ideas are fit not even for a dustbin .YA DEVI SARVABHOOTESHU BUDHI ROOPENA SAMHYATA .NAMASTASYA NAMASTASYA NAMASTASYA NAMO NAMAH !
@Arya k I am a citizen of India... The surname I use Is just the thing which I got in which the family I was born in ! Nd ppl like u aren't worthy to be engaged with bcz u lack cerebral capacity and more than that u lack the sensitivity to understand things! #im am indian and I believe in the constitutional morality !
As a woman born into a Nair family, I'm really grateful to finally learn about Kerala's history. I've heard about women being confined to their houses their whole lives, but never knew the details of women of other castes undertaking such an ordeal for their basic bodily autonomy.
Ah you should read about history of Nair women then. There is a book by Francis Buchanan, a Dutch traveller to old Kerala. Nair women were one of the most exploited communities in India by Brahmins.
Madam, Many caste-groups in Kerala and elsewhere in South India including Tamil Nadu did not wear upper-garments until the 20th century. It was the British governor of Madras presidency in 1865 who passed a legislation to cover the breasts of all the women irrespective of their caste or religion. The women of the caste-group 'Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar)' rebelled to wear upper-clothing like that of the women of the caste-group 'Pandi Pattar (Tamilan Brahmins)' and 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore as many 'Low-Caste Tamilans' as well as 'Upper-Caste Tamilans' including 'Tamilan Brahmins' have emigrated to Kerala in history. It is the immigrant people referred to as 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore who attacked these 'Pandi Ezhavas' now known as 'Nadars' and it is falsely claimed to be 'Malayali Nairs' in history by dishonest historians. There are various references to Tamil speaking Vellalas, Maravas etc as attacking the Tamil speaking Shanars aka Nadars since the 18th Century C.E in history and it had nothing to do with any Malayali-castes. For example: William Crooke in his book 'Things Indian' as published in 1906 states that "In North India, the lower-caste women make the Sari serve as upper-clothing but in South India, it has long been the habit among lower-castes to wear nothing above the waist. In the 19th century, a riot occurred in Travancore because the Christian convert women from the lower-caste wanted to wear upper-clothing to raise their social status like those of the higher ranks of Travancore (Kerala) such as the Nair women, who are some of the most beautiful in India and dresses in the cleanest of clothes."
and today in tamil nadu we nadrs own majority of business and 3 rd rich man him itself come from us ...WE COME SO FAR GUYS THANK U MISSIONARIES FOR YOUR SUPPORT
@@aryakotwal488 wow now women have so much influence and money that they are making porn? Then why is it that there's only women-hating and sadistic contents in there?🤔
@Arya k Well, you should not be nagging the rest then. Namboothiris are pretty much marginalised in Kerala now. No more power in their hands. They have paid for their sins.
Sir, The terms Thalakaram or Thalavila (head tax) and Mulakaram or Mulavila (breast tax) were the names of the taxes as pertaining to the male and female labourers since the 9th century C.E in the historical accounts of Kerala. It is only the pseudo-historians who support the stories of some backward-castes and scheduled-castes that their ancestors had to cut off their head and breast to protest against the head tax and breast tax in the 19th century when Swami Vivekananda himself has said that "In malabar (Kerala) the women lead in everything. Exceptional cleanliness is apparent everywhere and there is the greatest impetus to learning" (source - The complete works of Vivekananda vol.7) : The caste-group once referred to as 'Pandi Ezhavan' and 'Pandi Channan' in Kerala (Malabar) History have changed their Caste-Name to 'Nadar' in the 20th Century. There are historical records of various occupational taxes as imposed on individuals by the Kings outside of Kerala in Indian history as well as For Example, the rulers of Tamil Nadu have also directed various taxation against individuals such as Ezhaputchi (The Tax on Ezhavas), Shanavari (The Tax on Shanars) etc in Tamil Nadu history as according to the Tamil Nadu historians themselves.
My ancestors are responsible for the oppression of Nadar women and even today some of our people consider them as inferior ones and I'm really feeling sorry for our actions Shiv nadar (hcl technologies) third richest man in India and nadar people are very thriving ones in Kerala and Tamilnadu....
Today Tamil Nadu is doing so well because of Nadars. Chelliah Nadar the richest man in the Madras Presidency which comprised of TN, Andra, Karnataka and Kerala. He opened the first School in 1820 AD in Tanjore. He built a palace for the British Royal in Tanjore. He owned 7000 acres of land in the Delta region of Tanjore. He and his son focused on Education for the Tamils first. With the help of British he built the first railway in Tanjore. Later on his son started the Nadar Mercandile Bank which helped to open thousands of Schools in Tamil Nadu, which made the Vanniars and Paraiars and Thevars and Gounders and Konars and Mudaliars were able to take their kids to School. Then came the King Maker Kamaraj. Rajaji the so called Brahmin Chief Minister closed all the 2000 Schools in TN as no money to support and send the kids to do labour work. The Tamil Chola Kingdom descendant and the King Maker came and open 22,000 Schools. Kamaraj said my kids from Chennai to Kanyakumari will go to School and Study and diecided to open a School every 3 kilometres so kids don't have to struggle. Again the King made mid day meal for all his children. When the King Maker took power TN literacy was 7% inspite of that he made literacy to 37%. He opened so many Dam just like his grandfather Raja Raja Cholan and Rajendra Cholan. He was the All India Congress Leader advising Nehru in many instances which brought unity in India. Kamaraj brought I I T into Chennai, Neyveli Spike, ICF Coach and many many Companies into Tamil Nadu. Then came AV Thomas a Nadar from Kanykumari District who owned 2000 acres of Coffee and Tea and rubber plantation in Kerala and Western Ghats. He opened Schools and Colleges in Tamil Nadu. Then came Dr Dhinakaran and his son Paul Dhinakaran who opened one of the best University in Coimbatore Karunia University in 750 acres of land. Then came Shiv Nadar another descendant of the Chola Kingdom., So far has given 1.5 billion dollars as Charity to the poor people of Tamil Nadu and India. Shiv Nadar has 2 Universities in Chennai and one in Uttar Pradesh. Now opening 250 Schools in Punjab and Uttar Pradesh. The Nadar Community in Tamil Nadu has created 55 lakhs of Jobs to the Tamils. So poverty is almost wiped out of Tamil Nadu. Kanyakumari District has no beggars, no poor people, no huts or mud houses. People in rural Kanyakumari district live in massive 4 or 5 bedroom houses with 3 toilets and 2 bathrooms. The land in Kanyakumari district is a GOLD MINE and many part of Nagercoil and other places the land is richer than Mumbai. The Nadars have more gold than any other caste or community in TN. The per Capital income highest in TN. Literacy rate for 96.9% for women and 95.4% for men. Most of the Phd's and Doctorate are Tamil Women who make 69% in Tamil Nadu. The Nadars are a role model for the Tamils. Now the youngsters are all over the World as Doctors, Software Engineers, health workers, Teachers and Professors. Atleast one in each house in Kanyakumari District works abroad in the Middle East or Singapore or Canada or USA or UK or Australia. Probably in 10 to 15 years the Nadar community will become a very small minority in Tamil Nadu and Kerala as most of them leaving oversease and building businesses. When TN was going to a tough time during Covid 19 and Delta virus the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu asked Shiv Nadar money to buy drugs to save the lives of the Tamils and others in TN. Shiv Nadar gave 39 Crores as a pocket money to buy drugs to save the Tamil people. What happened to the other Billionaires. Every Nadar gives 10% as Charity to the poor. You can be a Thevar or Vanniar or Paraiar or Gounder doesnt matter who you are the Nadars will give to take you out of poverty, will send you kids to Schools paying tuition fee. That is why I am very proud of this amazing Community.
This channel really revived my hope in humanity and society but some of the comments and replies are killing me. Do u just come here to say negative things??
Ignore those. There will always be some haters in social media. At least this is mild compared to other videos. I dont even want to talk about the comments under a very misogynist video and most of them are from western people.🤦♀️🤦♀️
Dear Rangaraj you have done a good research however I need to give you some information of the Nadar community. I have done research for 5 years and I am doing a video soon plus a website is coming as well which will give you the right information. Most of the information including the Wikipidea is taken from the Information given by the castes and communities which were against the Nadars. The Nadan or the Nelamaikkarar are the real Nadars. They make 25% of the Nadar population. They are the Chola and Pandyan Kings. The Nelamaikkarar Nadan owned all the land and they build educational centres which were the Temple, a place of worship. they paid all the money for the festivals, the chariots were carried by the Thevars and other castes. The Iyers and Vellalar worked for them and took care of their accounts. The Greek Writer and Historian talks about the Nadan saying the Nadan were ferocious sea farers, fighters, traders, businesmen and educationalist and philanthropist. The Nadan took the Toddy and fruits to Greece, Lebanan and Arabian Countries and converted the Toddy juices to a chemical which was used to preserve the dead bodies called mummies. The Nadan taught the Greek how to bury the dead. The Nadan used the Palymarah leaves to write and teach the Greeks. There is a place in Lebanon called Palymarah. The Nadan were the first from India to take the sea journey through boats and ships. Read Herodotus and you will find out. Nirmala Sitaran spoke about it in 2021 during the Mercadile Bank 100 year anniversary. She said the DNA of the Nadars are very different. The Nadars were the Chola and Pandyan Kings. They were from the same Nadan blood. One ruled in Tanjore and the other in Tiruchendur. The Chettiars had a fight with the Cholas and the Pandyas gave many areas in South Tamil Nadu to settle and do business. In 1025 AD the Cholas lost the power to the Pandyan King and most of them moved to Tiruchendur were the Pandyan dysnasty is based. The Pandyan king also send his daughter to Korea to get married to the prince and later more than 500 Tamils words are used by the Koreans now. The paddy cultivation, the festivals, the old mud houses look exactly the same. The Nelamaikkarar nadan palace, business centres paddy farm, palmarah farms were protected by the Shantoor. All the information are there in Tamil history. The Shantoor all well versed in Kalari fights, Adimurai, Marmakalai, swords fights, stick fights, etc. The Shantoor were later called by a nick name Shanan or Chanar by the Nairs due to hatred and aversion. The Ezhlavas in Kerala were called Shanan. However when the Nadars lost power the Shanttor became Shanan by the Nair and the Kerala government. The Nair always believe the Nadars throw them out of Kanyakumari distrit which is their holy land. But it was not true. The poor Shantoor were employed by the rich Shantoor to work in the palymarah farm. You need strength, courage and boldness to climb a 40 metre tree. A nair and iyer will climb 5 feet and slip 20 feet below out of fear and anxiety. The Shantoor also recruited the palymarah climbers from other Tamil and Kerala caste. The strong and powerful abled men became the climbers and workers of Shantoor who are employed by the Nadan or the Nelamaikkarar. The Nelamaikkar makes 25% of the Nadar Population, the Shantoor makes 35% of the Nadar population and the Palymarah climbers make 40% of the Nadar Population. The DNA of the Nelamaikkarar and the DNA of the Palymarah climbers are very different and not the same. However the DNA of the Palymarah climbers and the DNA of the other Tamil caste are exactly the same. Later on the Nadars took the Climber and the Shantoor under one banner the Nadar Community. Thats show the Royalty of the Nadars, you can see in Britain as well. Nadars were hated by the Tamil Iyers, Thevars, Nayakkars and other castes in Tamil Nadu and Nairs in Kerala. No other caste went through this kind of persecution, except the Jews. The Jews had the most powerful Kingdom and the great KIngs who ruled were King David, King Solomon and many others. However the Jews lost the land and all the tribes were scattered.The Jews became slaves in Egypt. Same way the Nadar lost all the power when the Nayyakar community came to the South. They got the help of the Thevar and other caste in Tamil Nadu. These Thevar and other caste were called Jamindars and they owned land and they gave tax to the Nadan the ruler of the land. Nadan means ruler of the land. The Nadars were pushed from every direction and many of them went to Sri Lanka however some of them returned home because they were not welcome there. Many Nadars moved to different parts of Tamil Nadu, Kerala and Karnataka. The Nadars who moved to Coimbatore and Tanjore changed there caste name like Moopanars, Chettiars etc. One of the famous and succesful business man in Coimbatore said he changed his case to Chettiars and married a Konar woman to keep his identity private. The Germans and the French helped the Nadars to come up. Also the Muslim helped the Nadars. The Naickar asked the muslims to drown the Nadar in the sea so that they can be completed annihilated. However many Nadars became muslims in area like Kayalpattinam, Chengotai etc and many are muslims in Sril Lanka doing business. Ayavali was a religion a beautiful religion started by Muthu Kutty a Nadar. Millions of Nadars and other people joined the religion. They don't use brahmins or other caste, only Nadars to do the rituals. So the Hindus are the enemies of Nadars. The British never supported the Nadars because they felt the information they got from Nairs, Thevars and Naickers are evil and atrocies. So the British hated them and wrote against them. However the Germans and the French loved the Nadars. They saw the intelligence and physical strength and business savy. One of the riots in Sivakasi 1450 Nadars fought with 5000 Thevars and other Tamil caste. They used the Royal blood what I called bravery and intelligence and defeated them. However the Tamil government sent 2 Nadars to be hanged, the french missionaries fought and gave freedom to the Nadars. So the Travancore Government in Kerala and the Madras Government against Nadars and all the caste in Kerala and Tamil Nadu against Nadars. Inspite of that the DNA showed the Nadars are the Kings and rulers of this mighty nation, Tamil Nadu. LIke the Phoenix they came out of the ashes, very similar to the Jews. Now they own most of the Schools, Colleges, Engineering Colleges, Medical Colleges, Medical Institutions, Business centres, Churches, Temples, Mosques. They are a blessed Community. You can live next door to a Nadan and they will ever bother you. They will help you to study and even support if you are poor. An amazing community. Now the richest woman in India is Roshinin Nadar, the third richest man is Shiv Nadar. Now Nadars own Shipping Companiies, Printing, Media, New paper, Grocery almost 60 to 70%, motels, hotels, restaurants, Coffee and Tea plantation, Rubber and Spices, I T and all internet sector nationally and globally. Nadars are the first to open an Englsh Medium School. Nadars have 3 Univrsities, two in Tamil Nadu and one in Uttar Pradesh. The Standard of Nadars are very high. The Nadar community respects the women so much and that is one of the reason they always shine and grow. Now they are in politics as well. Congress in Tamil Nadu is still under Nadars, Plus Nadars are strong in DMK. No other caste in Tamil Nadu has the Education, business skills, entrepreneurrs skills or philantrophy like the Nadars. The Nadan blood is Royal. They never call any body poor or low caste because they know the Royalty in them will always shine and give support and love to the poor and needy.
Peoples In Kerala, Before 8th century they spoke Tamil, after that Aryans (namboothiri & Nair) migrated to Kerala , Tamil mixed with Sanskrit then Malayalam formed
But Sanskrit already had strong influence before 8th century via Buddhism and Jainism. Moreover Arya Brahmins migrated to not only to Kerala but different parts of Tamil country. Why a language like Malayalam failed to form in those regions but only formed in Kerala?
This is why we need reservation. Most poor people belong to sc/st caste. They're poor because they never got a chance to get education and were oppressed for centuries. I'm from a Nair family and I feel terrible cuz my ancestors tortured and discriminated innocent people for no reason
And this is why we need feminism. So that the next generation need not fight for equal pay or be ashamed of their bodies and menstruation. The women who preceded us had to go through so much to earn basic rights and respect.
Bro spend some quality time in reading real history not propaganda narratives by pseudo channels way before even so called feminist equality travancore was ruled by queens until when British and missionaries came and messed up and started giving over power to male king these lower caste tales are only appeared in the end of British era and thats the result of some narratives until then I have no idea or there Is no records in the kingdom of travancore about any discrimination or unfair shifts though we have great tales like how our queen slaughters British and missionaries goons in attungal there is no highlights of such events even in news, movies or books this is where we go wrong and need to re think on our perspective to understand pre invasion india
Sir, The Foreign travelers have referred to the 'Nambures (Namboothiris), Naires (Nairs) etc' as the highest dignitaries of Malabar (Kerala) whereas the Early Christian missionaries including Robert Caldwell since the 19th Century have referred to Nadars (Shanars) as "very dirty, ignorant and deceitful" and their homeland where they teem in large population as the uninviting barren desert of Thirunelveli and it is these Tamil-speaking immigrant Nadar (Pandi Shanar) majority as situated in Travancore from Neyyattinkara to Kanyakumari in Kerala (Malabar) history who campaigned for its inclusion in the Tamil-speaking Madras State (Tamil Nadu) instead of the Malayalam-speaking Kerala state.
Dalit, the name of tolerance, brave community, hard working people. Proud to be Dalit. We have been facing discrimination based on caste, skin colour etc.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 since you're always talking about it, why don't you make a video about burqa backed with enough research and statistics? We'll wait.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 coz their women never protested burqa. I have seen muslim women saying that allah has given them burqa to protect them from the bad eyes of the world. Till the time they dnt understand their need or learn to question like we hindu women did whenever we felt something is always done yet feels wrong. Tbh no 1 can help them. If they make a vid in this the 1 who are victims bt clueless will not support the channel themselves and will report it thinking it goes opp their religion Both in Islam or Christianity they are taught their beliefs are SOLID CORE and nothing is WRONG in it and all are wrong besides them. I understood when I read their comments in yt.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 they have complained about triple talak tho wtf. There are countless videos on that. The Quint made one with women who've gone through triple talak.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 so you don't want to invest any effort in making such video? But you think you can come to Swaddle and demand that they make the video for you? All that while completely undermining the content they create currently? Huh, sounds like typical male entitlement 😏
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 they didn't complain about tripal talaq??? What did you write here?😳 Where did u read that..? Shayra Bano case ka naam suna h?.. jaake pdh to lo ekbaar uske baare me
Can we expect a video on marriages in ancient India vs now. India has a post colonial legacy of not letting girls marry by their own choice.And its relationship if found with normalisation of stalking,etc and Bollywood culture? Back then we had swayamwara and all but now 90s onwards a woman is being treated as naive,not smart enough to understand what she wants.
Nadars have haplogroup lm28 ,a mutated varitation of haplogroup lm20 originated in indusvalley area...nadars were good in martial arts, herbal and siddha medicines and marma sastra...they were forced to covert into christiani ty due to some other reasons.....
Why just Nadar women? Why you are not telling the full true history? What about Nair women then? Nair women's where also not allowed to where upper cloths in front of brahmins or nambudiris. What about Ezhava women, pulaya women, SC/ST women all where not allowed to where upper cloths....not just Nadar women...Nadar groups fought against it because they where the strongest to among who had the capability to face brahmin or nambudiris during that time in Travancore or Trivandrum.
Sir, Many caste-groups in Kerala and elsewhere in South India including Tamil Nadu did not wear upper-garments until the 20th century. It was the British governor of Madras presidency in 1865 who passed a legislation to cover the breasts of all the women irrespective of their caste or religion. The women of the caste-group 'Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar)' rebelled to wear upper-clothing like that of the women of the caste-group 'Pandi Pattar (Tamilan Brahmins)' and 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore as many 'Low-Caste Tamilans' as well as 'Upper-Caste Tamilans' including 'Tamilan Brahmins' have emigrated to Kerala in history. It is the immigrant people referred to as 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore who attacked these 'Pandi Ezhavas' now known as 'Nadars' and it is falsely claimed to be 'Malayali Nairs' in history by dishonest historians There are various references to Tamil speaking Vellalas, Maravas etc as attacking the Tamil speaking Shanars aka Nadars since the 18th Century C.E in history and it had nothing to do with any Malayali-castes. For example: William Crooke in his work 'Things Indian' as published in 1906 states that "In North India, the lower-caste women make the Sari serve as upper-clothing but in South India, it has long been the habit among lower-castes to wear nothing above the waist. In the 19th century, a riot occurred in Travancore because the Christian convert women from the lower-caste wanted to wear upper-clothing to raise their social status like those of the higher ranks of Travancore (Kerala) such as the Nair women, who are some of the most beautiful in India and dresses in the cleanest of clothes." : The stories of some backward-caste and scheduled-caste that their ancestors had to cut off their head and breast to protest against the head tax and breast tax in the 19th century is not attested by any historical records as Swami Vivekananda himself has said that "In malabar (Kerala) the women lead in everything. Exceptional cleanliness is apparent everywhere and there is the greatest impetus to learning" (source - The complete works of Vivekananda vol.7) : The occupational taxes referred to as 'Thalakaram or Thalavila' (head tax) and 'Mulakaram or Mulavila' (breast tax) and 'Enikaram or Enivila' (ladder tax) etc since the 9th Century C.E in the historical accounts of Kerala were the names of the taxes as pertaining to the male and female labourers for the ladders and rope-belts they used to climb the coconut palms in Kerala hence such similar taxes were also imposed on the non-native labourers who used to migrate between Tamil Nadu and Kerala with the seasonal flow of sap from palmyra trees such as the caste-group 'Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar)' in History as well.
@@Nithin90 Sir, Thank you for your replay. One correction is there, Nadar's lower caste in the past⁉️ False. Proof: 1741 Colachel war, Travancore kindom defeated the Duch. The army was Nadar army under the leadership of Anantha Pathmanaban Nadar (King Marthanda Varma right hand). Just one example among many!!
Sir, the Kings of Travancore (Thiruvankodu) like all the Royal Families and Nobles of Kerala (Malabar) followed the Matrilineal Succession in History. The character 'Anantha Padmanabhan' who disguises himself as a 'Channan' in the novel 'Marthanda Varma' is not associated with the Tamil speaking immigrant Patrilineal-Castes of Tamil Nadu once referred to as Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar) in Kerala (Malabar) History. Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) - “In this land of Malabar (Kerala) from cumbla (kasaragod district) to cape comorin (kanyakumari district), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam) The term 'Channan' in the inscriptions and literary works of Kerala (Malabar) since the 9th Century C.E to 20th Century C.E as denoting the 'Malayali Ezhavas' had nothing to do with the Tamil speaking caste-group referred to as 'Cantar' (shanar) in Sri Lanka or as 'Sandran' (shanar) in Tamil Nadu who have changed their caste name to 'Nadar' in the early 20th Century and it is these Tamil-speaking immigrant Nadar (Pandi Ezhava aka Shanar) majority as situated in Travancore from Neyyattinkara to Kanyakumari in Kerala (Malabar) history who campaigned for its inclusion in the Tamil-speaking Madras State (Tamil Nadu) instead of the Malayalam-speaking Kerala state. The caste-group of Kerala (Malabar) referred to as 'Bhatta (Bhattathiri), Vellala, Kammala (Vishwakarma), Ezhava, Paraya, Pulaya, Kurava etc' in the inscriptions and literary works of Kerala (Malabar) since the 9th Century C.E to 20th Century C.E had nothing to do with the Tamil speaking immigrants of Kerala (Malabar) referred to as 'Pandi Pattar (Iyer), Pandi Vellala, Pandi Kammala (Vishwakarma), Pandi Ezhava (Nadar), Pandi Paraya, Pandi Pulaya, Pandi Kurava etc' in Kerala (Malabar) history. For Example: "Pulaya is a caste of Malabar region (Kerala) as well as Madurai and Coimbatore region (Tamil Nadu)" - Census of India 1901
@@Nithin90 Sir, You and your kind false history framing and teaching will no longer work, because people are now educated in Kerala and Tamilnadu. Thankyou. (No longer want to comment on this any more)
Sir, you should tell that to yourself. The Educated people of Tamil Nadu including 'Tamilan Brahmins' knows that the Ezhava aka 'Shanar-Caste' of the historical 'Pandi-Country' in Tamil Nadu have changed their Caste-Name to 'Nadar' in the 20th Century.
Sare jahan se acha hindustan humara ... Really ? When u hv to struggle to wear an upper cloth ? I just want to ask those ppl who were exploiting them then and even now indulging in caste discrimination and supporters of caste system Do u really feel, u are upholding ur religious and cultural beliefs by stooping so low as a human ?
@@aryakotwal488 Yes. But later it became a symbol of caste superiority, especially in the 19th century. The British also supported this oppression for their own selfish needs. Missionaries with their Victorian mindset turned it into a matter of modesty and many people still believe in that narrative. Symbols of caste oppression like two storied houses, glass tumblers, modern wells etc. change with technological development. It need not be something ancient. I have heard that many dalits are not even allowed to go to police stations in some places in India.
Welcoming more such videos related to the women empowerment from different Indian states. Obviously I know about the renaissance took place in Kerala as I'm a Keralaite. But I had little knowledge about the other states' cultural and political developments.
Would be good if some videos where women fought against non-hindu suppression was shown too. While Hindu traditions have had their sets of reforms how about the non-hindu fight for rights?
@Shreya Chakraborty The do mention missionaries but more as characters in the story who expressed surprise on the need to wear the cloth over the shoulder.
SWADDLE Please cover women's fighting history which should be a part of history books bt never did.😕 What to say they dnt even write about Ahom Dynasty of Assam which is India's only kingdom which made Mughals lose and return back. So speak the history which we never knew.😌 Women never backs off once they put their hands on something. That's what my parents say and I believe we will take this legacy forward. Hum honge kaamiyaab ek din🍓
Namboothiri and Nairs have Aryan gene , they migrated to Kerala during 8th century. Nairs are dirty , their children don’t know who’s is their exact father….
@@manishagoel885 Don't get him wrong, he wanted to watch those strong women. And he is good looking enough, so he already have watched many of those. We can assume positive things sometime☺
I can't believe some people turn such a horrible practice into something about sex. Ironically, you probably go around saying things like 'not all men'😒
I agree we should look back now and then to renovate ourselves but we always should have in mind that we've got a present and future too. The caste system nowadays in India I've come to see is far different from what it had been in the old times and i have come to see the so called suppressed and women also play foul games to achieve political standings. And in such a wanton thirst for power and money they easily forget they have got to lead a life as civilized as possible and the great truth we come to witness is that in the name of achieving such goals as political power and equal rights they cannot fool God.
I said that they always taught us that caste and gender discrimination was only there in North India.....They should also teach about this like Sati...
Well $lam is the best thing happened to the mankind ever if not $lam many women would have started doing something we never imagined So as long as $lam is there we don't have to worry.
Well India is not a Islamic country and Sharia laws for women are never going to trouble Indian women so why emphasis in that? But when the problems that are actually troubling us is talked, suddenly most of the people feel attacked.
@@VikashKumar-xs5kd as I say if not the islam women would have been gone to far.Just chek the BLM video you will realize how great $lam as religion is .
@Arya k you shouldn't use internet or smartphones because your ancestors didn't use them. Respect your ancestors and live your life exactly like they did
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"The missionaries were very irritated by these women" -- I just love the way she says this, it's so heartening and powerful. Anyone fighting for change is bound to ruffle some feathers, and 'irritate' some people, and that's okay.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 how petty are you? Looks like you are jealous that she is a person who has achieved something in her life while you have done nothing except trolls RUclips channels working for good
There are some people still irritated with the content channel provides same like the missionaries😂
Patriarchy also gets really irritated when someone wears so called short clothes. For them such clothes are revealing in some way. I don't know how someone's legs can be revealing actually. They are almost the same for every person out there 😂.I think when we wear what we want we are actually breaking the core of patriarchal control. I find these nadar women quite an inspiration . If clothing can be used to resist caste discrimination,it can also be used to fight against patriarchy. Clothes are the breakthrough🔥
Presently no caste discrimination occurs in india. Those who dont want to see hindu unity often dig the old graves
@@महात्माआंधी Hindu means the person of Indus or Indian regardless of religion, nothing else. The people like you who have not achieved anything in life and hate our Indian unity write comments to disrespect it without even knowing the history of India itself. Hinduism is a western concept Indian concept of Hinduism is Indian mythology regardless of religion. So try to do something good instead of writing Hateful nonsense.
I watched this video again after reading more about the Nadar women and I really applaud them for their bravery this is really inspiring
Hey what is the source of ur pfp?
@@frankocean6676 girl with a pearl earring (it's a painting)
This is not the complete history, but one side version only. Why just Nadar women? Why you are not telling the full true history? What about Nair women then? Nair women's where also not allowed to where upper cloths in front of brahmins or nambudiris. What about Ezhava women, pulaya women, SC/ST women all where not allowed to where upper cloths....not just Nadar women...Nadar groups fought against it because they where the strongest to among who had the capability to face brahmin or nambudiris during that time in Travancore or Trivandrum.
Only nadar women resist the bhramin in trivancore. Because nadars culture is wearing upper clothes. But these bhramins imposing their topless women culture into Nadar community, that time the nadar women were resist this act. Note: mean while all other casts are topless include nair girls
@@pratheepgv6037Sir, There are various references to Tamil speaking Vellalas, Maravas etc as attacking the Tamil speaking Shanars aka Nadars since the 18th Century C.E in history and it had nothing to do with any Malayali-castes including Kings.
Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) - “In this land of Malabar (Kerala) from cumbla (kasaragod district) to cape comorin (kanyakumari district), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam)
The stories of some backward-caste and scheduled-caste that their ancestors had to cut off their head and breast to protest against the head tax and breast tax in the 19th century is not attested by any historical records as Swami Vivekananda himself has said that "In malabar (Kerala) the women lead in everything. Exceptional cleanliness is apparent everywhere and there is the greatest impetus to learning" (source - The complete works of Vivekananda vol.7)
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The occupational taxes referred to as 'Thalakaram or Thalavila' (head tax) and 'Mulakaram or Mulavila' (breast tax) and 'Enikaram or Enivila' (ladder tax) etc since the 9th Century C.E in the historical accounts of Kerala were the names of the taxes as pertaining to the male and female labourers for the ladders and rope-belts they used to climb the coconut palms in Kerala hence such similar taxes were also imposed on the non-native labourers who used to migrate between Tamil Nadu and Kerala with the seasonal flow of sap from palmyra trees such as the caste-group 'Pandi Channan (Nadar)' in History as well.
I didn't know that something like this existed even in India! Kudos to those brave women
Well those brave woman has now great fan following on certain social media sites.😂😂
Presently no caste discrimination occurs in india. Those who dont want to see hindu unity often dig the old graves
@@महात्माआंधी Hindu means Indian regardless of religion nothing else.
@@महात्माआंधी 🤣
Yes uppercaste stooges like you always live in delusion. Who think that their atrocious casteist and oppressive sanathan dharma is the greatest in the world😂
Lets take a moment nd acknowledge the sacrifice of Nangeli . Let us all hail the brave women !
There is no historical evidence of her existence 😌😌
Well even if there is not any official documentation the story plus the act depicted in it gives it enough legitimacy to be something worthy to be known ! Breast tax was a brutally horrific reality of the extremely abusive system of caste based discrimination!
@Arya k thank u for ur abuse was expected from a person like u . It is a folklore nobody has any concrete proof of it ! Get ur definition of things right before maliciously alleging things .Folklore is folklore may or may not be backed by historical evidence .But can people like u understand it ? Too much to ask from a random swearer......
..hate Mubarak!
@Arya k can u be a little more misogynst and Casteist than this ??? Do u even recognize the ugliness of ur words? DO NOT PUT UR FILTH WHICH U ARE FULL OF EVERYWHERE U GO ! As far as the richness of kerala is concerned people there perform best on social factors there , ur patriarchal and casteist ideas are fit not even for a dustbin .YA DEVI SARVABHOOTESHU BUDHI ROOPENA SAMHYATA .NAMASTASYA NAMASTASYA NAMASTASYA NAMO NAMAH !
@Arya k I am a citizen of India...
The surname I use Is just the thing which I got in which the family I was born in ! Nd ppl like u aren't worthy to be engaged with bcz u lack cerebral capacity and more than that u lack the sensitivity to understand things! #im am indian and I believe in the constitutional morality !
As a woman born into a Nair family, I'm really grateful to finally learn about Kerala's history. I've heard about women being confined to their houses their whole lives, but never knew the details of women of other castes undertaking such an ordeal for their basic bodily autonomy.
U keralite are still casteist yet brag every where that you are the most educated and utopian society in the world
Ah you should read about history of Nair women then. There is a book by Francis Buchanan, a Dutch traveller to old Kerala. Nair women were one of the most exploited communities in India by Brahmins.
@@akimbodeagle2566 context batao
Such atrocity the namboodri and Nair's did, cunning society. Their lifestyle is awful to know now
Madam, Many caste-groups in Kerala and elsewhere in South India including Tamil Nadu did not wear upper-garments until the 20th century. It was the British governor of Madras presidency in 1865 who passed a legislation to cover the breasts of all the women irrespective of their caste or religion. The women of the caste-group 'Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar)' rebelled to wear upper-clothing like that of the women of the caste-group 'Pandi Pattar (Tamilan Brahmins)' and 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore as many 'Low-Caste Tamilans' as well as 'Upper-Caste Tamilans' including 'Tamilan Brahmins' have emigrated to Kerala in history. It is the immigrant people referred to as 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore who attacked these 'Pandi Ezhavas' now known as 'Nadars' and it is falsely claimed to be 'Malayali Nairs' in history by dishonest historians.
There are various references to Tamil speaking Vellalas, Maravas etc as attacking the Tamil speaking Shanars aka Nadars since the 18th Century C.E in history and it had nothing to do with any Malayali-castes.
For example:
William Crooke in his book 'Things Indian' as published in 1906 states that "In North India, the lower-caste women make the Sari serve as upper-clothing but in South India, it has long been the habit among lower-castes to wear nothing above the waist. In the 19th century, a riot occurred in Travancore because the Christian convert women from the lower-caste wanted to wear upper-clothing to raise their social status like those of the higher ranks of Travancore (Kerala) such as the Nair women, who are some of the most beautiful in India and dresses in the cleanest of clothes."
and today in tamil nadu we nadrs own majority of business and 3 rd rich man him itself come from us ...WE COME SO FAR GUYS THANK U MISSIONARIES FOR YOUR SUPPORT
Kudos to those women warriors ❤❤❤❤ more power to them
After being able to wear upper clothes they got so much power that they end up with making mallu p#$n 😭😭😭😭
@@aryakotwal488 wow now women have so much influence and money that they are making porn? Then why is it that there's only women-hating and sadistic contents in there?🤔
@@user-bw8yn3zr1s i didn't say woman but those who got more power by such resistance.Where did you see such women-hating and sadistic content?
@@aryakotwal488 bro r u a trad?
@@frankocean6676 Nope.
Iam a subscriber from kerala and my mother told me about this when i was younger
It feel so good when swaddle uploaded a video about this👏
@Arya k Are you?
@Arya k Well, you should not be nagging the rest then. Namboothiris are pretty much marginalised in Kerala now. No more power in their hands. They have paid for their sins.
Guys, read up about 'Mulakaram' too.
You will be shocked.
The struggle of Ezhava women was also very challenging.
Brother does ezhlavas and nadars same🙄
Sir, The terms Thalakaram or Thalavila (head tax) and Mulakaram or Mulavila (breast tax) were the names of the taxes as pertaining to the male and female labourers since the 9th century C.E in the historical accounts of Kerala. It is only the pseudo-historians who support the stories of some backward-castes and scheduled-castes that their ancestors had to cut off their head and breast to protest against the head tax and breast tax in the 19th century when Swami Vivekananda himself has said that "In malabar (Kerala) the women lead in everything. Exceptional cleanliness is apparent everywhere and there is the greatest impetus to learning" (source - The complete works of Vivekananda vol.7)
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The caste-group once referred to as 'Pandi Ezhavan' and 'Pandi Channan' in Kerala (Malabar) History have changed their Caste-Name to 'Nadar' in the 20th Century. There are historical records of various occupational taxes as imposed on individuals by the Kings outside of Kerala in Indian history as well as For Example, the rulers of Tamil Nadu have also directed various taxation against individuals such as Ezhaputchi (The Tax on Ezhavas), Shanavari (The Tax on Shanars) etc in Tamil Nadu history as according to the Tamil Nadu historians themselves.
Yes. Ezhava women struggled a lot.
My ancestors are responsible for the oppression of Nadar women and even today some of our people consider them as inferior ones and I'm really feeling sorry for our actions
Shiv nadar (hcl technologies) third richest man in India and nadar people are very thriving ones in Kerala and Tamilnadu....
Did your ancestors have that much time to do that ?
Alpha male change your name to goojeet . That's what you are .
Must be really empowering to keep your caste name
@@eldergod4817 Yes.
@@aryakotwal488 😭😭bhai tum raita ko nafrat karte ho tum ek no ka trad ho
Today Tamil Nadu is doing so well because of Nadars. Chelliah Nadar the richest man in the Madras Presidency which comprised of TN, Andra, Karnataka and Kerala. He opened the first School in 1820 AD in Tanjore. He built a palace for the British Royal in Tanjore. He owned 7000 acres of land in the Delta region of Tanjore. He and his son focused on Education for the Tamils first. With the help of British he built the first railway in Tanjore. Later on his son started the Nadar Mercandile Bank which helped to open thousands of Schools in Tamil Nadu, which made the Vanniars and Paraiars and Thevars and Gounders and Konars and Mudaliars were able to take their kids to School. Then came the King Maker Kamaraj. Rajaji the so called Brahmin Chief Minister closed all the 2000 Schools in TN as no money to support and send the kids to do labour work. The Tamil Chola Kingdom descendant and the King Maker came and open 22,000 Schools. Kamaraj said my kids from Chennai to Kanyakumari will go to School and Study and diecided to open a School every 3 kilometres so kids don't have to struggle. Again the King made mid day meal for all his children. When the King Maker took power TN literacy was 7% inspite of that he made literacy to 37%. He opened so many Dam just like his grandfather Raja Raja Cholan and Rajendra Cholan. He was the All India Congress Leader advising Nehru in many instances which brought unity in India. Kamaraj brought I I T into Chennai, Neyveli Spike, ICF Coach and many many Companies into Tamil Nadu. Then came AV Thomas a Nadar from Kanykumari District who owned 2000 acres of Coffee and Tea and rubber plantation in Kerala and Western Ghats. He opened Schools and Colleges in Tamil Nadu. Then came Dr Dhinakaran and his son Paul Dhinakaran who opened one of the best University in Coimbatore Karunia University in 750 acres of land. Then came Shiv Nadar another descendant of the Chola Kingdom., So far has given 1.5 billion dollars as Charity to the poor people of Tamil Nadu and India. Shiv Nadar has 2 Universities in Chennai and one in Uttar Pradesh. Now opening 250 Schools in Punjab and Uttar Pradesh. The Nadar Community in Tamil Nadu has created 55 lakhs of Jobs to the Tamils. So poverty is almost wiped out of Tamil Nadu. Kanyakumari District has no beggars, no poor people, no huts or mud houses. People in rural Kanyakumari district live in massive 4 or 5 bedroom houses with 3 toilets and 2 bathrooms. The land in Kanyakumari district is a GOLD MINE and many part of Nagercoil and other places the land is richer than Mumbai. The Nadars have more gold than any other caste or community in TN. The per Capital income highest in TN. Literacy rate for 96.9% for women and 95.4% for men. Most of the Phd's and Doctorate are Tamil Women who make 69% in Tamil Nadu. The Nadars are a role model for the Tamils. Now the youngsters are all over the World as Doctors, Software Engineers, health workers, Teachers and Professors. Atleast one in each house in Kanyakumari District works abroad in the Middle East or Singapore or Canada or USA or UK or Australia. Probably in 10 to 15 years the Nadar community will become a very small minority in Tamil Nadu and Kerala as most of them leaving oversease and building businesses. When TN was going to a tough time during Covid 19 and Delta virus the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu asked Shiv Nadar money to buy drugs to save the lives of the Tamils and others in TN. Shiv Nadar gave 39 Crores as a pocket money to buy drugs to save the Tamil people. What happened to the other Billionaires. Every Nadar gives 10% as Charity to the poor. You can be a Thevar or Vanniar or Paraiar or Gounder doesnt matter who you are the Nadars will give to take you out of poverty, will send you kids to Schools paying tuition fee. That is why I am very proud of this amazing Community.
This channel really revived my hope in humanity and society but some of the comments and replies are killing me. Do u just come here to say negative things??
Ignore those.
There will always be some haters in social media.
At least this is mild compared to other videos.
I dont even want to talk about the comments under a very misogynist video and most of them are from western people.🤦♀️🤦♀️
Presently no caste discrimination occurs in india. Those who dont want to see hindu unity often dig the old graves
@@महात्माआंधी EVERYONE BHAKT SPOTTED !!!!!!!
@@Aditi-mb3qm He has written this precious comment once and copy pasting it everywhere out of context.🤣
Dear Rangaraj you have done a good research however I need to give you some information of the Nadar community. I have done research for 5 years and I am doing a video soon plus a website is coming as well which will give you the right information. Most of the information including the Wikipidea is taken from the Information given by the castes and communities which were against the Nadars.
The Nadan or the Nelamaikkarar are the real Nadars. They make 25% of the Nadar population. They are the Chola and Pandyan Kings. The Nelamaikkarar Nadan owned all the land and they build educational centres which were the Temple, a place of worship. they paid all the money for the festivals, the chariots were carried by the Thevars and other castes. The Iyers and Vellalar worked for them and took care of their accounts. The Greek Writer and Historian talks about the Nadan saying the Nadan were ferocious sea farers, fighters, traders, businesmen and educationalist and philanthropist. The Nadan took the Toddy and fruits to Greece, Lebanan and Arabian Countries and converted the Toddy juices to a chemical which was used to preserve the dead bodies called mummies. The Nadan taught the Greek how to bury the dead. The Nadan used the Palymarah leaves to write and teach the Greeks. There is a place in Lebanon called Palymarah. The Nadan were the first from India to take the sea journey through boats and ships. Read Herodotus and you will find out. Nirmala Sitaran spoke about it in 2021 during the Mercadile Bank 100 year anniversary. She said the DNA of the Nadars are very different. The Nadars were the Chola and Pandyan Kings. They were from the same Nadan blood. One ruled in Tanjore and the other in Tiruchendur. The Chettiars had a fight with the Cholas and the Pandyas gave many areas in South Tamil Nadu to settle and do business. In 1025 AD the Cholas lost the power to the Pandyan King and most of them moved to Tiruchendur were the Pandyan dysnasty is based. The Pandyan king also send his daughter to Korea to get married to the prince and later more than 500 Tamils words are used by the Koreans now. The paddy cultivation, the festivals, the old mud houses look exactly the same. The Nelamaikkarar nadan palace, business centres paddy farm, palmarah farms were protected by the Shantoor. All the information are there in Tamil history. The Shantoor all well versed in Kalari fights, Adimurai, Marmakalai, swords fights, stick fights, etc. The Shantoor were later called by a nick name Shanan or Chanar by the Nairs due to hatred and aversion. The Ezhlavas in Kerala were called Shanan. However when the Nadars lost power the Shanttor became Shanan by the Nair and the Kerala government. The Nair always believe the Nadars throw them out of Kanyakumari distrit which is their holy land. But it was not true. The poor Shantoor were employed by the rich Shantoor to work in the palymarah farm. You need strength, courage and boldness to climb a 40 metre tree. A nair and iyer will climb 5 feet and slip 20 feet below out of fear and anxiety. The Shantoor also recruited the palymarah climbers from other Tamil and Kerala caste. The strong and powerful abled men became the climbers and workers of Shantoor who are employed by the Nadan or the Nelamaikkarar. The Nelamaikkar makes 25% of the Nadar Population, the Shantoor makes 35% of the Nadar population and the Palymarah climbers make 40% of the Nadar Population. The DNA of the Nelamaikkarar and the DNA of the Palymarah climbers are very different and not the same. However the DNA of the Palymarah climbers and the DNA of the other Tamil caste are exactly the same. Later on the Nadars took the Climber and the Shantoor under one banner the Nadar Community. Thats show the Royalty of the Nadars, you can see in Britain as well.
Nadars were hated by the Tamil Iyers, Thevars, Nayakkars and other castes in Tamil Nadu and Nairs in Kerala. No other caste went through this kind of persecution, except the Jews. The Jews had the most powerful Kingdom and the great KIngs who ruled were King David, King Solomon and many others. However the Jews lost the land and all the tribes were scattered.The Jews became slaves in Egypt. Same way the Nadar lost all the power when the Nayyakar community came to the South. They got the help of the Thevar and other caste in Tamil Nadu. These Thevar and other caste were called Jamindars and they owned land and they gave tax to the Nadan the ruler of the land. Nadan means ruler of the land. The Nadars were pushed from every direction and many of them went to Sri Lanka however some of them returned home because they were not welcome there. Many Nadars moved to different parts of Tamil Nadu, Kerala and Karnataka. The Nadars who moved to Coimbatore and Tanjore changed there caste name like Moopanars, Chettiars etc. One of the famous and succesful business man in Coimbatore said he changed his case to Chettiars and married a Konar woman to keep his identity private.
The Germans and the French helped the Nadars to come up. Also the Muslim helped the Nadars. The Naickar asked the muslims to drown the Nadar in the sea so that they can be completed annihilated. However many Nadars became muslims in area like Kayalpattinam, Chengotai etc and many are muslims in Sril Lanka doing business.
Ayavali was a religion a beautiful religion started by Muthu Kutty a Nadar. Millions of Nadars and other people joined the religion. They don't use brahmins or other caste, only Nadars to do the rituals. So the Hindus are the enemies of Nadars. The British never supported the Nadars because they felt the information they got from Nairs, Thevars and Naickers are evil and atrocies. So the British hated them and wrote against them. However the Germans and the French loved the Nadars. They saw the intelligence and physical strength and business savy. One of the riots in Sivakasi 1450 Nadars fought with 5000 Thevars and other Tamil caste. They used the Royal blood what I called bravery and intelligence and defeated them. However the Tamil government sent 2 Nadars to be hanged, the french missionaries fought and gave freedom to the Nadars. So the Travancore Government in Kerala and the Madras Government against Nadars and all the caste in Kerala and Tamil Nadu against Nadars. Inspite of that the DNA showed the Nadars are the Kings and rulers of this mighty nation, Tamil Nadu. LIke the Phoenix they came out of the ashes, very similar to the Jews. Now they own most of the Schools, Colleges, Engineering Colleges, Medical Colleges, Medical Institutions, Business centres, Churches, Temples, Mosques. They are a blessed Community.
You can live next door to a Nadan and they will ever bother you. They will help you to study and even support if you are poor. An amazing community. Now the richest woman in India is Roshinin Nadar, the third richest man is Shiv Nadar. Now Nadars own Shipping Companiies, Printing, Media, New paper, Grocery almost 60 to 70%, motels, hotels, restaurants, Coffee and Tea plantation, Rubber and Spices, I T and all internet sector nationally and globally.
Nadars are the first to open an Englsh Medium School. Nadars have 3 Univrsities, two in Tamil Nadu and one in Uttar Pradesh. The Standard of Nadars are very high. The Nadar community respects the women so much and that is one of the reason they always shine and grow.
Now they are in politics as well. Congress in Tamil Nadu is still under Nadars, Plus Nadars are strong in DMK. No other caste in Tamil Nadu has the Education, business skills, entrepreneurrs skills or philantrophy like the Nadars. The Nadan blood is Royal. They never call any body poor or low caste because they know the Royalty in them will always shine and give support and love to the poor and needy.
Peoples In Kerala, Before 8th century they spoke Tamil, after that Aryans (namboothiri & Nair) migrated to Kerala , Tamil mixed with Sanskrit then Malayalam formed
But Sanskrit already had strong influence before 8th century via Buddhism and Jainism. Moreover Arya Brahmins migrated to not only to Kerala but different parts of Tamil country. Why a language like Malayalam failed to form in those regions but only formed in Kerala?
This is why we need reservation. Most poor people belong to sc/st caste. They're poor because they never got a chance to get education and were oppressed for centuries.
I'm from a Nair family and I feel terrible cuz my ancestors tortured and discriminated innocent people for no reason
Did your ancestors also oppressed those tribel people living in Andman nikobar island.
@@aryakotwal488 nope but never helped them either
@@vinayak2570 what if they make the same oppressed story ?
@@vinayak2570 What education you talking about we didn't have morden education before British came so how is possible that we didn't let them study?
@@vinayak2570 tell me a single tribe or clan in all over world who helped another clan ?
And this is why we need feminism. So that the next generation need not fight for equal pay or be ashamed of their bodies and menstruation. The women who preceded us had to go through so much to earn basic rights and respect.
Bro spend some quality time in reading real history not propaganda narratives by pseudo channels
way before even so called feminist equality travancore was ruled by queens until when British and missionaries came and messed up and started giving over power to male king
these lower caste tales are only appeared in the end of British era and thats the result of some narratives until then I have no idea or there Is no records in the kingdom of travancore about any discrimination or unfair shifts
though we have great tales like how our queen slaughters British and missionaries goons in attungal there is no highlights of such events even in news, movies or books
this is where we go wrong and need to re think on our perspective to understand pre invasion india
Nadars have always existed in Kerala. Their existence pre-dates Namboothiris and Nairs. Namboothiri and Nairs are from Northern India originally.
Sir, The Foreign travelers have referred to the 'Nambures (Namboothiris), Naires (Nairs) etc' as the highest dignitaries of Malabar (Kerala) whereas the Early Christian missionaries including Robert Caldwell since the 19th Century have referred to Nadars (Shanars) as "very dirty, ignorant and deceitful" and their homeland where they teem in large population as the uninviting barren desert of Thirunelveli and it is these Tamil-speaking immigrant Nadar (Pandi Shanar) majority as situated in Travancore from Neyyattinkara to Kanyakumari in Kerala (Malabar) history who campaigned for its inclusion in the Tamil-speaking Madras State (Tamil Nadu) instead of the Malayalam-speaking Kerala state.
Namboothiri and Nairs have Aryan gene , they migrated to Kerala during 8th century
Nair are dirty , Nair children’s don’t know who is their father
@@benilsingh5294 ssss
Dalit, the name of tolerance, brave community, hard working people. Proud to be Dalit. We have been facing discrimination based on caste, skin colour etc.
😂😂😂😂
@@aryakotwal488 😂😂😂😂😂
@@vikassagar2304 😭😭😭
@@aryakotwal488🤣🤣🤣
@@vikassagar2304 Ab kuchh bolega bhi ya haste rahega bhai 😁😁
One 🍎 falls we found gravity, millions of women fought unsound battle, still some people don't know equality.
Now Nadars are the Richest people in Tamil Nadu
The histories we should remember. Long live Nadar women's upper cloth movement! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 since you're always talking about it, why don't you make a video about burqa backed with enough research and statistics? We'll wait.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 coz their women never protested burqa. I have seen muslim women saying that allah has given them burqa to protect them from the bad eyes of the world. Till the time they dnt understand their need or learn to question like we hindu women did whenever we felt something is always done yet feels wrong. Tbh no 1 can help them. If they make a vid in this the 1 who are victims bt clueless will not support the channel themselves and will report it thinking it goes opp their religion
Both in Islam or Christianity they are taught their beliefs are SOLID CORE and nothing is WRONG in it and all are wrong besides them. I understood when I read their comments in yt.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 they have complained about triple talak tho wtf. There are countless videos on that. The Quint made one with women who've gone through triple talak.
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 so you don't want to invest any effort in making such video? But you think you can come to Swaddle and demand that they make the video for you?
All that while completely undermining the content they create currently? Huh, sounds like typical male entitlement 😏
@sudarshana chakra 3.0 they didn't complain about tripal talaq??? What did you write here?😳 Where did u read that..? Shayra Bano case ka naam suna h?.. jaake pdh to lo ekbaar uske baare me
Can we expect a video on marriages in ancient India vs now.
India has a post colonial legacy of not letting girls marry by their own choice.And its relationship if found with normalisation of stalking,etc and Bollywood culture?
Back then we had swayamwara and all but now 90s onwards a woman is being treated as naive,not smart enough to understand what she wants.
Nadars have haplogroup lm28 ,a mutated varitation of haplogroup lm20 originated in indusvalley area...nadars were good in martial arts, herbal and siddha medicines and marma sastra...they were forced to covert into christiani ty due to some other reasons.....
some people just refuse to accept hindu rashtra travancore was casteist
Why just Nadar women? Why you are not telling the full true history? What about Nair women then? Nair women's where also not allowed to where upper cloths in front of brahmins or nambudiris. What about Ezhava women, pulaya women, SC/ST women all where not allowed to where upper cloths....not just Nadar women...Nadar groups fought against it because they where the strongest to among who had the capability to face brahmin or nambudiris during that time in Travancore or Trivandrum.
Sir, Many caste-groups in Kerala and elsewhere in South India including Tamil Nadu did not wear upper-garments until the 20th century. It was the British governor of Madras presidency in 1865 who passed a legislation to cover the breasts of all the women irrespective of their caste or religion. The women of the caste-group 'Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar)' rebelled to wear upper-clothing like that of the women of the caste-group 'Pandi Pattar (Tamilan Brahmins)' and 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore as many 'Low-Caste Tamilans' as well as 'Upper-Caste Tamilans' including 'Tamilan Brahmins' have emigrated to Kerala in history. It is the immigrant people referred to as 'Pandi Vellala Shudras' in Travancore who attacked these 'Pandi Ezhavas' now known as 'Nadars' and it is falsely claimed to be 'Malayali Nairs' in history by dishonest historians
There are various references to Tamil speaking Vellalas, Maravas etc as attacking the Tamil speaking Shanars aka Nadars since the 18th Century C.E in history and it had nothing to do with any Malayali-castes.
For example:
William Crooke in his work 'Things Indian' as published in 1906 states that "In North India, the lower-caste women make the Sari serve as upper-clothing but in South India, it has long been the habit among lower-castes to wear nothing above the waist. In the 19th century, a riot occurred in Travancore because the Christian convert women from the lower-caste wanted to wear upper-clothing to raise their social status like those of the higher ranks of Travancore (Kerala) such as the Nair women, who are some of the most beautiful in India and dresses in the cleanest of clothes."
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The stories of some backward-caste and scheduled-caste that their ancestors had to cut off their head and breast to protest against the head tax and breast tax in the 19th century is not attested by any historical records as Swami Vivekananda himself has said that "In malabar (Kerala) the women lead in everything. Exceptional cleanliness is apparent everywhere and there is the greatest impetus to learning" (source - The complete works of Vivekananda vol.7)
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The occupational taxes referred to as 'Thalakaram or Thalavila' (head tax) and 'Mulakaram or Mulavila' (breast tax) and 'Enikaram or Enivila' (ladder tax) etc since the 9th Century C.E in the historical accounts of Kerala were the names of the taxes as pertaining to the male and female labourers for the ladders and rope-belts they used to climb the coconut palms in Kerala hence such similar taxes were also imposed on the non-native labourers who used to migrate between Tamil Nadu and Kerala with the seasonal flow of sap from palmyra trees such as the caste-group 'Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar)' in History as well.
@@Nithin90 Sir, Thank you for your replay. One correction is there, Nadar's lower caste in the past⁉️ False. Proof: 1741 Colachel war, Travancore kindom defeated the Duch. The army was Nadar army under the leadership of Anantha Pathmanaban Nadar (King Marthanda Varma right hand). Just one example among many!!
Sir, the Kings of Travancore (Thiruvankodu) like all the Royal Families and Nobles of Kerala (Malabar) followed the Matrilineal Succession in History. The character 'Anantha Padmanabhan' who disguises himself as a 'Channan' in the novel 'Marthanda Varma' is not associated with the Tamil speaking immigrant Patrilineal-Castes of Tamil Nadu once referred to as Pandi Ezhava (Shanar aka Nadar) in Kerala (Malabar) History.
Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) - “In this land of Malabar (Kerala) from cumbla (kasaragod district) to cape comorin (kanyakumari district), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam)
The term 'Channan' in the inscriptions and literary works of Kerala (Malabar) since the 9th Century C.E to 20th Century C.E as denoting the 'Malayali Ezhavas' had nothing to do with the Tamil speaking caste-group referred to as 'Cantar' (shanar) in Sri Lanka or as 'Sandran' (shanar) in Tamil Nadu who have changed their caste name to 'Nadar' in the early 20th Century and it is these Tamil-speaking immigrant Nadar (Pandi Ezhava aka Shanar) majority as situated in Travancore from Neyyattinkara to Kanyakumari in Kerala (Malabar) history who campaigned for its inclusion in the Tamil-speaking Madras State (Tamil Nadu) instead of the Malayalam-speaking Kerala state.
The caste-group of Kerala (Malabar) referred to as 'Bhatta (Bhattathiri), Vellala, Kammala (Vishwakarma), Ezhava, Paraya, Pulaya, Kurava etc' in the inscriptions and literary works of Kerala (Malabar) since the 9th Century C.E to 20th Century C.E had nothing to do with the Tamil speaking immigrants of Kerala (Malabar) referred to as 'Pandi Pattar (Iyer), Pandi Vellala, Pandi Kammala (Vishwakarma), Pandi Ezhava (Nadar), Pandi Paraya, Pandi Pulaya, Pandi Kurava etc' in Kerala (Malabar) history.
For Example: "Pulaya is a caste of Malabar region (Kerala) as well as Madurai and Coimbatore region (Tamil Nadu)" - Census of India 1901
@@Nithin90 Sir, You and your kind false history framing and teaching will no longer work, because people are now educated in Kerala and Tamilnadu. Thankyou. (No longer want to comment on this any more)
Sir, you should tell that to yourself. The Educated people of Tamil Nadu including 'Tamilan Brahmins' knows that the Ezhava aka 'Shanar-Caste' of the historical 'Pandi-Country' in Tamil Nadu have changed their Caste-Name to 'Nadar' in the 20th Century.
Sare jahan se acha hindustan humara ...
Really ?
When u hv to struggle to wear an upper cloth ?
I just want to ask those ppl who were exploiting them then and even now indulging in caste discrimination and supporters of caste system
Do u really feel, u are upholding ur religious and cultural beliefs by stooping so low as a human ?
The person who wrote those shiity line did butcher the so called lower caste.You know what they still doing 😂😂😂😂
@@aryakotwal488 Please elaborate urself what u want to say ?
@@anindian6497 Who wrote the Line you quoted above there ?
@@aryakotwal488 Muhammad Iqbal .
So what ,whom did he butchered according to ur claims ?
@@anindian6497 Did you search or not about Jogendra nath mandal?
Women were always determined to do what they want..just a little push was needed.
Are you gynaecologist?
@@dayadarwazatoddo5921 nope..am just a grade 11 school student.
@@harini409 😂😂
18 caste was suffered to Brest tax
Salute!
Amazing !
Many people connect it with modesty and try to hide the caste story.
What cast story ? Even the royal family women didn't use to wear upper clothes before 17th or 18th century.
@@aryakotwal488 Yes. But later it became a symbol of caste superiority, especially in the 19th century. The British also supported this oppression for their own selfish needs. Missionaries with their Victorian mindset turned it into a matter of modesty and many people still believe in that narrative. Symbols of caste oppression like two storied houses, glass tumblers, modern wells etc. change with technological development. It need not be something ancient. I have heard that many dalits are not even allowed to go to police stations in some places in India.
@@denvorsden7903 The dalit word were never used in India before 1872.Now go and find out who and why it was used at first place ?
@@aryakotwal488 the words shudra and ati-shudra were used instead. What's your point?
@@DevyaniMulik my point is how it became so upper cast oppressor incident when both of them belong to the same Varna ?
Welcoming more such videos related to the women empowerment from different Indian states. Obviously I know about the renaissance took place in Kerala as I'm a Keralaite. But I had little knowledge about the other states' cultural and political developments.
First male Sati in History of India.
Nangelis sacrifice will always remain in mind.
This video is factually incorrect. Nadar caste is a part of tamil nadu. The title mentions Nadar and not once in the video, Nadar is mentioned.
The reference of upper and lower caste itself is disgusting. It’s the dominant caste and marginalized caste .
Would be good if some videos where women fought against non-hindu suppression was shown too. While Hindu traditions have had their sets of reforms how about the non-hindu fight for rights?
I think the Bano case would be a good example to show.
Ask this to you friend sudharshan chakra.. he knows some 'jehlrile facts' about Tripal talaq.. ek to unhone likha bhi h iss comment section me
@@rishikart10 Whats "jehlrile"? Typo???
@@jonron3805no no I meant toxic(jehrila- poison of snake)... Fact that no one ever heard.
@Shreya Chakraborty The do mention missionaries but more as characters in the story who expressed surprise on the need to wear the cloth over the shoulder.
SWADDLE Please cover women's fighting history which should be a part of history books bt never did.😕
What to say they dnt even write about Ahom Dynasty of Assam which is India's only kingdom which made Mughals lose and return back.
So speak the history which we never knew.😌
Women never backs off once they put their hands on something. That's what my parents say and I believe we will take this legacy forward.
Hum honge kaamiyaab ek din🍓
Wow never read about it. Going to now. Thanks
Please make a video on gender segregation in Indian schools.
Nadar people is powerfull caste on world chera king,chola king,pandiya king also nadar community yo do no this mg
Joke.
😂😂😂
Namboothiri and Nairs have Aryan gene , they migrated to Kerala during 8th century. Nairs are dirty , their children don’t know who’s is their exact father….
This is powerful!💜
Awesome work ...keep it up all of you
Woah! I never knew about this.
Why you are talking about only nadar
💚💙Nadar 🇬🇦
❤️JD❤️😍😍😍😍🥰😘😘🥰
Swaddle please make a video about female warriors of sinouli
Only if I had a time machine 😍
Desperate person
@@manishagoel885 Don't get him wrong, he wanted to watch those strong women. And he is good looking enough, so he already have watched many of those.
We can assume positive things sometime☺
I can't believe some people turn such a horrible practice into something about sex. Ironically, you probably go around saying things like 'not all men'😒
But u have ur sister. Go sweet Home Alabama 😂😂😂😂 have fun with her. No need of time machine
@@kamartaj3010 I don't have a sister but I'd love to share a sister if you got one
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This is what my dad told me...Thanks for making this video.
I agree we should look back now and then to renovate ourselves but we always should have in mind that we've got a present and future too. The caste system nowadays in India I've come to see is far different from what it had been in the old times and i have come to see the so called suppressed and women also play foul games to achieve political standings. And in such a wanton thirst for power and money they easily forget they have got to lead a life as civilized as possible and the great truth we come to witness is that in the name of achieving such goals as political power and equal rights they cannot fool God.
Proud to be a subscriber of this channel!!! Thank u for educating
And we give example of Kerala when it comes to women empowerment.....😑
Dubey ji pahle history ke bare me pad lijiye .
@@aryakotwal488 Exactly.....humko sahi padhai hi nahi jaati.....They should also talk about this like Sati
@@kishandubey7882 Sati ke bare me kya padhna hai ?
I said that they always taught us that caste and gender discrimination was only there in North India.....They should also teach about this like Sati...
@@kishandubey7882 apko kya lagata hai sati kisne banned kiya ?
I think I’m fast
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@@dayadarwazatoddo5921 Lmao💀
@@dayadarwazatoddo5921 but you did.. that's why you searched for this video and then replied here😅👌
@@dayadarwazatoddo5921 ☠☠☠🥵
Please make a video on triple talak , talak e biddat and halala system 🙏🙏🙏 thank you
They are peaceful community pleaser.
Oooo whateboutry😂😂😂😂
mam please take a good mic
Only a few people know that this issue is on trend coz of Divyakirti Sir!
What is the status of women in shariya law , please make video on it...
Well $lam is the best thing happened to the mankind ever if not $lam many women would have started doing something we never imagined So as long as $lam is there we don't have to worry.
Well India is not a Islamic country and Sharia laws for women are never going to trouble Indian women so why emphasis in that? But when the problems that are actually troubling us is talked, suddenly most of the people feel attacked.
What's the problem in making a video on the issue,
I'm amazed!!
I think triple talak, talak e biddat , halala are some gifts to women from them...
@@VikashKumar-xs5kd as I say if not the islam women would have been gone to far.Just chek the BLM video you will realize how great $lam as religion is .
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Bubs are the best thing in the whole world 🤤🤤
I'm too early
First 😂
Men are from Mars and women from Venus
@Arya k thank you for proving that caste system is still very prevalent
@Arya k you shouldn't use internet or smartphones because your ancestors didn't use them. Respect your ancestors and live your life exactly like they did
@Arya k yes why
@Arya k kya ho or kyu ho bhai tum?