How to S55 AMG Coilover Conversion | ABC Delete | DIY W220 Yellow Speed Racing & ABC Error Bypass

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  • @user-de9rg2nu5p
    @user-de9rg2nu5p Год назад +17

    There is so much more in order for this conversion to be done properly - bare minimum are sway bars

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +5

      Sway bar and softer springs should make this much more pleasant. The spring rate is plenty for roll stiffness, it suffers being too stiff over bumps. I have the parts in my garage whenever I get time to do part 2.

  • @bananaclipzz
    @bananaclipzz Год назад +6

    Bro thank you for the awesome vid and commentary, Im in the market for these and this looks so simple. Hoping the ride is still fairly nice.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +12

      Glad you like it. The care is "sportier" now but in all honesty the ride quality is not as good and I am looking into a re-valve and possibly softer springs. But the feeling of not having to worry about getting stranded because of ABC still makes it completely worth it.

  • @angelred364
    @angelred364 Год назад +5

    thank you for the clear video. please do the abc removal video soon! very good quality and footage.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      Thanks. Will get around to that video once I finish doing motor mount swap.

  • @driftareal5158
    @driftareal5158 Год назад +2

    Best conversation video on RUclips hands down one question is….is this the process on let’s say a 2005 Cl 55

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks!!! Sorry I am only familiar with the W220, I don't know the extent that ABC is used on different chassis's but they should be fairly similar as Mercedes will try to share as many parts as possible. Try looking up the fuse diagram looking for "ABC", suspension side is probably close to identical.

  • @maxboya
    @maxboya 3 месяца назад +1

    My W220 S55 is at 180K on original ABC suspension with zero faults.
    ABC will always be more superior than any other coil over you could ever possibly install. You’ll never compete with the millions of dollars on R&D spent on the system.
    When I see people do coil over conversion on a factory equipped ABC system. You might as well just not change the motor oil then!
    The ABC system faults because of the hydraulic fluid becoming aged and containment all the moving valve blocks plungers etc.
    The system has to be routinely flushed and filter replaced every 10K miles.
    Go and drive your vehicle for 30,000 miles without changing the oil, go ahead and report back your findings as to what happens to the internals of that engine and which engine swap you decide to go with.
    Incredible how ignorant people can be, just change the dang pentosin fluid and the system will out perform any coil over non sense conversion. Otherwise just stop changing your engine oil cause hey if you don’t replace the ABC fluid then why even bother changing any fluids right? Just run it until it breaks, then replace it with zero engineering zero backing and lack luster agility.
    It’s yall car at the end of the day and if yall want to downgrade a phenomenal vehicle, be my guest!

  • @W220MAFIA
    @W220MAFIA Год назад +5

    Getting ready for install I appreciate your content for this w220 thanks for the motivation as well 💪😎 I subscribed and can't wait for your content to come 💪💯🔥

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      Thanks for stopping by, glad to have you here

  • @maxboya
    @maxboya 3 месяца назад +1

    My W220 S55 is at 180K on original ABC suspension with zero faults.
    ABC will always be more superior than any other coil over you could ever possibly install. You’ll never compete with the millions of dollars on R&D spent on the system.
    When I see people do coil over conversion on a factory equipped ABC system. You might as well just not change the motor oil then!
    The ABC system faults because of the hydraulic fluid becoming aged and containment all the moving valve blocks plungers etc.
    The system has to be routinely flushed and filter replaced every 10K miles.
    Go and drive your vehicle for 30,000 miles without changing the oil, go ahead and report back your findings as to what happens to the internals of that engine and which engine swap you decide to go with.
    Incredible how ignorant people can be, just change the dang pentosin fluid and the system will out perform any coil over non sense conversion. Otherwise just stop changing your engine oil cause hey if you don’t replace the ABC fluid then why even bother changing any fluids right? Just run it until it breaks, then replace it with zero engineering zero backing and lack luster agility.
    It’s yall car at the end of the day and if yall want to downgrade a phenomenal vehicle, be my guest!

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  3 месяца назад

      I'm glad it's working for you, my pasted comment from a similar reply.
      I agree it "should", but the system just regularly breaks. List of things of memory that have happened from 60k-130k miles. Half the work performed below was under extended warranty at Mercedes dealership, other half was best Indy in the area (this doesn't include work done prior to me taking ownership). The warranty company lost tons on this car, like ~$20k (Kind of like Doug Demuro and his Range Rover)
      -Flush every time there was any service performed, so usually a flush every 10k miles which is about how often stuff has broken, come to think of it probably had more ABC fluid changes then oil changes
      -Strut replacement
      -2 accumulator failures
      -Valve block leak
      -3rd failure of pump
      -Random vomit of ABC fluid to inside of hood (believe that was related to accumulator)
      I just want the car to work

  • @arbenp3240
    @arbenp3240 11 месяцев назад +4

    Amazing video. This really gave me the confidence to purchase my S55. But now we need a sway bar install tutorial hahah.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  10 месяцев назад +2

      Honestly once ABC is not a factor, you can really enjoy the car. Yeah sorry been delayed on sway bar video, I'm still waiting for some backordered hardware to come in.

  • @yvesalepin3486
    @yvesalepin3486 Год назад +6

    Look forward to see part 2!

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      Me to! I'm finishing off my motor mounts first though.

  • @brannosmith
    @brannosmith Год назад +3

    What happens when ABC is dead? Is the suspension totally non-functional or is it just worse than it should be?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +6

      Suspension will bottom out as there is no fluid pressure to hold the car up and becomes not drivable as the tires rub against stuff in the fenders.

  • @zafar78600
    @zafar78600 29 дней назад

    This is a very clear explanation.Of course the remove the old pump and lines and valves and save 200 lbs weight.though sway bars will add some

  • @arakassabian5879
    @arakassabian5879 Месяц назад

    Kia ora from New Zealand, is the process the same for a 1999 S320 W220 LWB? Thank you.

  • @zww7033
    @zww7033 Месяц назад

    Do you need to swap over a tandem pump for power steering after this swap ?

  • @CL500MBZ
    @CL500MBZ 4 месяца назад +1

    So any update since this video? Hows rhe car.

  • @justinkcramos
    @justinkcramos Месяц назад

    What happens to power steering?

  • @electrix4677
    @electrix4677 Год назад +1

    Why you get rid off abc, what problem did you have with a system?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      ABC keeps breaking, on average something ABC related fails every 10k miles.

  • @shanekozy456
    @shanekozy456 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice vid.. what needs to be done differently if there was a blown line prior to conversion? Where would you plug the line? Can the lines be eliminated at the pump? I find two different solutions but hardly any diagrams or videos.. Thanks for any help.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm just finishing editing the video for removing the tandem pump and going to conventional power steering. Once that is done all the lines can be removed.

  • @CalebTomaschefsky-Youtube
    @CalebTomaschefsky-Youtube Год назад +1

    Did you know you can open your hood up to a 90°. There's two pins on each side of the hood you push in to open further.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      Yes, but for some reason I didn't think about it at the time. Everything else I have ever had didn't have that feature, old habits 😭

  • @mikeb1039
    @mikeb1039 Год назад +1

    Wow, the most detail I've seen!! Nicely done!! got my first sagging at rest (left rear wheel) so I'm going to have to decide which way to go. 8:11 - $20 if they aren't for Mercedes. ;)
    No swaybars?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +1

      Yeah no sway bars, but I am looking at adding at some point in the future to see the difference. The more I drive it the more I want softer springs + bars.

  • @beast_e55_amg
    @beast_e55_amg 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just got an s55 and I blew a line with the abc suspension… so is anything else needed suspension wise besides the coil over kit to convert it over?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  8 месяцев назад +1

      Probably better off doing the power steering pump conversion at the same time rather than trying to plug the lines. I'm just finishing editing the video for that.

  • @mikerivard
    @mikerivard Год назад +1

    Hi have you changed your springs to softer ones and do you have any info for sway bar purchase and installation
    Thanks for your video cheers

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +1

      Haven't changed to softer springs yet, won't mess with that until I put in the standard power steering pump, remove all the old ABC stuff and toss in sway bars. I'm just going to grab some used ones from eBay, you need non-ABC control arms which I already have from FCP Euro.

  • @richardgreene3460
    @richardgreene3460 Год назад +1

    Very detailed/clear video! How is the ride quality compared to the ABC system?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +5

      Thank you. Smooth roads its essentially the same, but ABC is much better at bumps. Not having to worry about $1k services every 10k miles is very "comforting" though 😁.

  • @stevensocolovert9135
    @stevensocolovert9135 11 месяцев назад +1

    What conversion kit did you go with? And what did you pay? Thanks again.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  10 месяцев назад +2

      Yellowspeed, they seem to hover around $1200

  • @pierreperk7079
    @pierreperk7079 6 месяцев назад

    You made that look easy.This video made my decision to do this to my Mercedes.What is it that they're talking about that?You have to change power steering pump?

  • @damiangarcia5273
    @damiangarcia5273 Год назад +1

    Do I just have to take off those 2 fuses to remove the red light?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      Yes but that's only if your removing ABC.

  • @celalhuseynov8753
    @celalhuseynov8753 9 месяцев назад +1

    Tenk yu superr

  • @hkpoweralajmi5170
    @hkpoweralajmi5170 9 месяцев назад +1

    Good jop bro if you Wana sell the S55 let me know

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks 😁. Not yet though still got plenty to do with the car.

  • @damiangarcia5273
    @damiangarcia5273 Год назад +1

    What about the power steering? Mine just went bad and not sure what pump to use to swap it out.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +1

      I haven't sorted out the exact pump# to be used, I heard on the forums there are 2 different versions from a non-ABC car that have different bolt patterns.

  • @iftahtsabary
    @iftahtsabary Год назад +1

    Thank you for a very important video! looking forward for video #2 for pump, also please share the link for the coilover kit

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      Added in link to manufacture website. You can likely find cheaper looking around other vendors and around major holidays like July 4th, Black Friday, etc.

    • @iftahtsabary
      @iftahtsabary Год назад +1

      @@SaltySRT thanks! can you share comfort and performance of this setup?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +3

      Neither comfort or performance are as good as stock, its not horrible for ~$1k coilover setup but I wasn't expecting it to beat OEM other then reliability. Smooth road is fine, its the bigger bumps it upsets the car. I am going to give softer springs and sway bars a shot and see where things land.

  • @sebas8586
    @sebas8586 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hola kreo ke si desconecta la centralita ABC no saldría el fallo

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  8 месяцев назад +2

      No sé cómo deshacerme del error aparte del módulo Strutmaster y alguien que menciona programarlo con STAR.

  • @thedoo777
    @thedoo777 11 месяцев назад +1

    I had mine done My brand was hiro Coil overs! I just had a Bypass From Strutmaster I think it cost me 82$ It's a shame that Did not come out with a Adjustable coil over kit I would've bought those! The St Louis dealerships And shops are so lazy That they just want the StrutMasters! I love them I'll be back

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  10 месяцев назад +1

      I wish there was a higher quality kit available like Bilstein based struts, everything seems to be entry level and Strutmaster I avoided because of not being able to adjust height.

  • @babytoymania516
    @babytoymania516 9 месяцев назад +1

    This car will be a BOAT with no ABC

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  8 месяцев назад +1

      Actually the body roll without ABC isn't the problem as its plenty, its doesn't have enough compliance now so ride quality isn't as good. ABC is best of both worlds.

  • @donguzmanmx
    @donguzmanmx Год назад +1

    Donde cómprate tus coylowers

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +1

      yellowspeedracingusa.com/products/dynamic-pro-sport-coilovers-2000-2006-mercedes-s55-s65-amg-w220

  • @rudyflotte3239
    @rudyflotte3239 Год назад +1

    Is the power steering ok since your pump went out ?

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +3

      There is a leak from it and is not able to build enough pressure for ABC but the power steering side seems to still be ok, but probably driving on borrowed time which is why I still want to do the S500 pump swap.

    • @damiangarcia5273
      @damiangarcia5273 Год назад +1

      ⁠@@SaltySRTWhen will the s500 pump swap be up lol? Mine just went out and want to see how it’s done 😅

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      I'm shooting for sometime in October, have been doing other maintenance items and haven't been looking forward to pump removal as I know its hard to get to.@@damiangarcia5273

  • @bmwman1981
    @bmwman1981 Год назад +1

    How to ruin a s55 amg

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      I definitely ruined the AMG get bent over at the dealer experience 🤣.

  • @bafigueroa21
    @bafigueroa21 Год назад +1

    Great video brother 👍🏽

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  Год назад +2

      Thanks for the visit

  • @stevenjenkins3882
    @stevenjenkins3882 Год назад +1

    Makes sense

  • @michaelfreni5565
    @michaelfreni5565 7 месяцев назад

    What brand coil overs did you go with? Ty

    • @CL500MBZ
      @CL500MBZ 4 месяца назад

      Those are yellows

  • @commasNculture
    @commasNculture 10 месяцев назад +1

    How many labor hours would u say is reasonable for this job

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  10 месяцев назад +1

      I would budget 3 hours. There isn't anything that difficult about the install if you have all your tools ready to go. Hardest is probably the quick disconnect if any of your lines are stuck.

    • @commasNculture
      @commasNculture 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@SaltySRT thanks I had a shop told me it would take 20 hours and even more to take the lines out because they have to drop the sun Frame 🙄

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@commasNculture Sorry I meant just for the coilover swap portion in this video, I just got done with the pump swap and that took me like 5 hours, removing the tandem pump is horrible but the video should be very helpful. I'm still in the middle of removing lines and I am probably 6 hours invested there.

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@commasNculture In all honesty as I am almost done with removing the lines, if I had to do it again I would just leave them, too much time and it really messy as there are soo many junctions that you have to disconnect and every one of those will have fluid come out.

  • @thedoo777
    @thedoo777 11 месяцев назад +1

    You don't need sway bars Unless you're going to do some Overly aggressive Or racetrack

    • @SaltySRT
      @SaltySRT  10 месяцев назад +1

      I am hoping once I get the sway bars in (very soon), that I can take some spring rate out to improve ride quality.