does this make me a Karen? r/EntitledParents
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You were definitely NOT a Karen at the hospital! You were advocating and standing up for yourself. Yes, you got frustrated and probably raised your voice, but you were respectful and not demeaning the employees. Emotion is completely understandable when you're in pain and frustrated!
Exactly 💯 nurse here - advocating for yourself is not being a Karen! Be professional, but firm. Listen, but correct as needed. I feel like truly entitled people make normal or conflict-averse people feel like they're bad people for standing up for themselves and setting boundaries.
A great book about how to do this is "when doctors don't listen"
For sure. I’m also one of those people who cry when they feel too much of any emotion, including frustration. It’s sucks when others stop taking me seriously because of it.
I absolutely agree - Shaaba, you are NOT a Karen for respectfully advocating for yourself, after the receptionist sent you to the wrong place, causing you to miss your appointment!
I avoid confrontation at all cost in my life, to such an extent that I usually end up disappointed in my self for not having the guts to say something when others are very clearly in the wrong, BUT as someone with health anxiety I would have had a complete breakdown in Shaaba's position. Her reaction was absolutely justified and reasonable and thankfully people understood that and she ended up getting what she needed.
Yeah, honestly. We don't need Karen to become a term for "woman who is complaining".
Imagine throwing a princess themed birthday party, inviting a kid called 'Aurora' and not expecting them to come as Aurora.
Lowkey part of me thinks this was almost planned and baited. Like the mom was looking for a reason to get mad at that family or something. Idk. Tinfoil hat moment
The fact that the mom then lie about Aurora’s mom knowing full well about the costume also shows that she knows she is being ridiculous. Why lie if you think you are in the right?
Right? I wouldn't necessarily assume Aurora would be dressed like Sleeping Beauty, but I would definitely think it was a possibility
i would have starting calling the birthday girl's mother Maleficent, to her face!
standing up for yourself and being a karen are two completely different things. one is making sure you're being treated fairly, the other is entitlement and believing you're the most important person in any given situation. you weren't a karen, shaaba, you were just taking care of yourself.
Exactly 🩷
Everybody needs to advocate for themselves sometimes, and that doesn't mean at all that you are toxic. Shaaba wasn't rude, she was just rightly concerned for her health. In the same situation a Karen would have jumped the queue and started arguing at once.
thanks for the reassurance 🥹💛
Honestly there's an easy fix when the princess in question is Aurora. Just get one dress photoshopped to the blue version of the dress, assuming they're both in pink. If that's not different enough then the parent is legitimately psychotic.
What a great idea, shame someone didn't think of that 🩷🩵
Seen the story a few times, that is a fantastic idea. 😄
The OP actually added pictures of the dress, they look very different already.
i don’t even think that’s necessary + not the best lesson to teach. it’s a costume. + the only one w| an issue is the mother, not even the child.
@@hellaSwankkyToo my thoughts exactly. the only person having an issue was the crazy birthday girl's mom! the little girls were so cute and happy what mother makes a drama when her own child is super chill with the situation? but, to be honest, it would have been a nice solution for a butthurt helicopter mom to change the colour of the dresses in the photos...
Lowkey I’ve really begun to hate the phrase Karen because it’s morphed from meaning entitlement (and often racism as with the receipt story) to just “woman complaining or having an issue in an establishment.” It hurts my heart a little to hear Shaaba of all people to say she was acting like a Karen at this hospital that fucked up and almost caused her to need a major surgery.
Words like “Karen” are scaring people into not standing up for themselves when they’re genuinely being treated poorly. You aren’t a Karen if you need someone to fix their mistake. Politely sending your food back to the kitchen because they didn’t prepare what you asked for and are paying for isn’t being a Karen. And begging for a doctor to approve a minor procedure isn’t even in the same realm as being a Karen
super appreciate this take, thanks for sharing!
Yes, thank you, on behalf of all women whose mothers named them Karen years ago and now have to live with this.
Not just women either, just everyone in general. People advocating for themselves is sometimes called being a Karen no matter who it is, and it sucks.
Yes, I feel the word Karen definitely gets used way too much as just an excuse for misogyny.
Or just people doing their job, telling teens they're not allowed to do something. They might get fired otherwise, which also makes it a classist thing because the people dealing with situations like that are mostly lower-class. Middle/Upper class people don't have to do such shit jobs.
@@catpoke9557Yes! I got called a Karen on social media for saying that it’s cruel to crop dogs‘ ears (which it is, which is why here in Germany Dobermans look adorable because it’s forbidden to crop their ears here). So I am a Karen because I am against animal cruelty. 🙄
From my understanding 'toxic boy mums' tend to be mums that enable bad/bratty behaviour from their sons cuz they see them as little angels, they're also pretty misogynistic too.
As they say , boys will be boys.
There's a lot of emotional incest too, and sexualising their sons.
If they have daughters, those girls are often neglected, degraded, and otherwise not treated well
There's also some Electra Complex vibes sometimes 😬
That's definitely a big part of it. They're convinced their little angels can do no wrong, but are also threatened by anyone who their boy might possibly like more than them.
It's not always the case, but I recently heard the term "emotional incest" where a parent won't let someone take their kids away from them (i.e. go on a date alone or marry them) because they love their kid more than any other person could. It's not applicable in every case, but the idea gives me the willies and makes me increasingly thankful for my own parents.
Yes, it can be a lot of things, but a big part is also emotional incest and sexualisation (what shaaba talked about). But also misogyny and favouritism (if there are also daughters involved)
Unfortunately in the case of the rampant racist at the restaurant, if it had occurred here in the US it's gotten to the point that regardless of the race of the bystander it's ALWAYS a safety issue because you never know if the person being a loud hateful jerk is carrying a gun and is just a hairsbreadth away from snapping...people are being shot for driving into the wrong driveways and knocking on the wrong doors or simply by being in the wrong place at the wrong time rather that be their place of worship or school or the local Walmart, so you can only imagine that kind of ingrained fear of most Americans nowadays...not to say that you should standby and allow injustice to happen right in front of you, but that fear tends to hold a lot of people back
nailed it
Also checking to see if the person who was attacked is alright after (assuming it’s not actual physical violence) has more of a positive impact in my experience. Unless you are in position of authority or have a personal connection to the AH person so that they might actually listen to you, stepping in as a stranger will only make it worse.
@@mikaylaeager7942big agree! While it might seem nice and noble to stand up against injustice and racism, it could escalate the situation and the victim would be caught up in the middle of it. You might think you’re helping them but you’re really pouring gasoline on the fire they’re already standing in. Support and distraction are often much more helpful.
this sucks and is a very valid point, thanks for sharing
@@shaaba and thank you (and Jamie!) for your wonderful videos🥰🏳️🌈⚧️🏳️⚧️
Despite the entitled mum. It is so sweet to imagine the little girl being excited that she and her friend were dressed the same. ❤
That princess dress story is wild. A teaching moment for _what_ exactly? That you should never have matching outfits? That's not a life lesson. It's a birthday party, who cares about the outfits as long as the children are happy?!
If the birthday girl had been upset, I can understand using it as a teaching moment about being kind and understanding with our friends when they are having a hard time, whether it is our fault or not. But the birthday girl was excited about having an Aurora twin, so it actually made her party better. Forcing Aurora to change dresses would not teach anything and potentially upset the birthday girl who then no longer has a costume twin.
I have never resonated with you more than when you expressed disbelief at the birthday girl's mom making a big deal out of a child's princess costume. Omg. Like what?? How do you not see how frivolous that is??
Some people just have IQs of room temperature (in Centigrade).
I love the Aurora mom standing her ground 💕
I love how your pink hair is what saved you waiting 6 months!
very grateful for my candy floss head 😂
This is a hilarious story
I would say, for the mom who's having a problem with having her daughter with the same costume, if it really doesn't bother the birthday girl or anyone but her, she could just add her Daughter accessories like a tiara or anything that screams I am the birthday girl just to make HER feels good and not ruined her own's birthday because she's acting out like that.
I think you should definitely do this subreddit again. It's funny because you don’t have to do that general "weighing of judgements" you get with AITA. No one is asking for advice here, just sharing over-the-top situations.
Though, maybe some calming tea for after. Lol "Today we're going to look at r/entitledparents, and to calm down afterwards I'll be drinking ____ tea." Lol
What a lovely gift of the headband from the granddaughter and grandma to Aurora. Entitled mum can pound sand.
I listen to these videos while writing and one of the main characters of my book is named Aurora. She’s a trans woman who named herself after the princess so that was a fun surprise.
being able to focus on videos and write is a skill fr LOL i have to listen to instrumental music
@@colorbar.s isn’t more of a switch between focusing on one than the other but thanks
pls that's such a cool coincidence, also all the best with ur writing!
You were not a Karen, Shaaba! I saw someone else said you were advocating for yourself and that's totally correct! This wasn't your fault, the receptionists were either unaware or uncaring (depending on the one indicated) and you were just doing what you possibly could to explain the situation you were in and insisting you were there ahead of time, because you were! I'm sorry you had such a stressful situation, I probably would have cried too tbh. None of that was your fault and you were just trying to do the right thing to protect your health.
Shaaba is right, that first mom with the princess party really needs a hobby and/or volunteer group to occupy her energies and learn some perspective.
Maybe not a group, though. She sounds like an extreme version of Mrs Cake from Ankh-Morpork, and nobody wants that.
24:15 I’m a gp receptionist and I always give patients the benefit of the doubt and advocate for them as much as I can 💗
I had the same hospital thing happen the first time I saw my GP. They accidentally didn't mark me as arrived even though I was early and I waited three hours before finally getting over my anxiety to say something. I spent three hours waiting because I was sure I was just being silly and the local health system was stressed. 😅 Every time I've been since I've never waited more than 15 minutes😂
A similar thing happened to me. When pregnant with my second child we had just moved to another country and had to go to a specific hospital for my appointments. And you had to be there at 7am. So I was there at 7am and there was only one doctor that could see me (pregnant and another condition) and I waited from 7am until 11:30, checking every 15-20 with reception. Finally at 11:30, they told me that the *only* doctor I could see had left 5 minutes ago and I would have to reschedule! I just started bawling (pregnancy hormones and stress) and was like, I’ll just never come back and have my baby at home (which is illegal in the country we’re in). And the nurse felt bad that this 8 months pregnant woman was hysterical so she called the doctor back (who had just got to her car) and I saw her, while still bawling. And the doctor hadn’t even known I was there. The receptionist never checked me in because she felt I didn’t belong in her country. So, that was fun.
ERGH! And you were just trying to be considerate!
this sucks big time, especially so late in your pregnancy! I’m so glad the doctor came back though. It doesn’t surprise me that they didn’t even know until you saw them 🤦🏽♀️ x
23:29 I feel your pain,I always begin to cry when I’m frustrated and it’s so embarrassing especially when I’m already struggling to express myself
I cry with any strong emotion. Anger, frustration, happiness doesn't matter I'm going to cry. As crying is not socially acceptable this means that if I have any strong emotion it gets embarrassing.
I feel that we as a generation struggle to be assertive and stand up for ourselves in fear to be considered a "Karen". I understand the plight of customer service workers and one should always interact with decency and respect, yet sometimes you have to insist to be taken into account. Specially when it matters.
Yeah, twenty years ago, women were worried about being called a bitch if they stood up for themselves. Now misogynists are starting to throw around the word "Karen," because it's not technically a dirty word so it's harder to call them out for it.
yeah ppl really seem to make karen lose its meaning. the word refers to white upper class women who are entitled and are rude, classist and racist to lower class people. standing up to yourself against a messy system or when someone is being rude to you is not a karen and in tired of ppl misusing that word to mean "woman i don't like"
Oh hon I sympathize with your doctor’s office story! I’ve had things like that when I was like SIIIIIICK and my husband has to hold me up because I’m too weak and it’s like WHY TODAY OF ALL DAYS PLEASE SOMEONE JUST TAKE ME BACK THERE
I'd had major abdominal surgery and was just able to drive again, so I was thrilled to see someone getting ready to leave a front row parking space at the grocery store. I waited, signal on, and just as the car was out of the spot, a new car appeared from the opposite direction and took the spot. This meant I couldn't go into the store because the walk would be too far, so I glared at her out the window. She quickly got out of her car and started yelling, "I needed it more than you! I have my kid in the car!"
Her kid got out. He was a very unhappy looking high schooler.
🤦🏽♀️🥸
It was a wonderful learning moment for the birthday girl's mother to learn that it's okay for two girls to wear the same cossie, especially when they go off and play so nice.
The kids acted more maturely than the mother! lol
My brother saw the aurora borealis last month on a cruise to Norway
I'm not at all jealous, but I can't bring myself to look at his photos.
AITA? lol
I've heard the Aurora story a few times now, each time I have had the same view as Shaaba. When I was younger I had a Pocahontas dress, 3 other girls in my school had the same dress and we all wore it to a powwow that the tribe council was hosting. None of us cared that we matched... neither did the parents/grandparents.
On the appt thing. I had a sort of similar issue where I had been on the waiting list for physio for months. Then I get a call from the hospital from a really rude receptionist demanding to know why I hadn't turned up for my appointment. And I was stunned. I had no idea I had an appointment. I hadn't had a letter. I'd recently checked with my GP, they didn't have an appt date for me yet. So I had no idea. This woman berated me for like 5 minutes for missing this appointment saying if I missed another I'd get put to the end of the waiting list.
Now first, I get people do miss appointments and it's very frustrating for staff and those waiting for their own appointments. But I literally had no idea. And even though I stressed to her that I didn't, she still screamed at me. I was 16 at the time. I cried so much.
so sorry they made you feel that way when you didn’t even know!
Awe Shaaba, that was not being a Karen at all! You were standing up for yourself while being overwhelmed. Karen's don't typically cry until they get arrested.
The whole princess dress thing was even more bizarre when Aurora's mum (in comments, I think) clarified that it wasn't the same costume!! It was two completely different Aurora dresses! And there were like 5 Elsas, 3 Cinderellas and so on, so they weren't the only kids being the same princess either. If it was *that* important to BG's mum, it should have been on the invite.
You did what you needed to do for your physical well-being. A specific person within an institution contributed to inhibiting (deliberately or unintentionally) your timeliness, and asserting the need to be seen by others within that institution is more than justified because you had actual stakes lmao. Karens go off about stuff that is miniscule or non-existent. Protecting your health is not being a Karen.
Honestly disagree with the mum denying privacy when changing and going to the toilet 16:30 that it’s anything to do with a lack of trust. The situation is textbook covert sexual abuse and the ‘concern for safety’ is a manipulative cover story. I hope this person and anyone in similar situations can get out 😢
thank you! i came looking for this comment! this isnt the first time that she's had a really bad take in one of these videos, i feel like she comes at this the wrong way sometimes. I immediately got vibes of sexual abuse from that story, so when she was like "have you done something to make your parents not trust you?" i thought that was wild
I hope it's not sexual abuse, but you're right it could be. I grew up in a similar situation, where my mom was just over-the-top controlling and nosy. She needed to know everything I was doing at all times and would flip out if she thought I was "hiding" things. She would go through my room when I was in school as a child/teen, she would dig through the trash bin in my bedroom and bathroom, she would go through my lunch bag and backpack the second I got home from school... it was a lot. Needless to say, I moved out as soon as I could.
@@ferninthehouse The "have you done something to make your parents not trust you" made me cringe so hard that my brain stitched in an additional "or has she always been this obscenely controlling" and genuinely forgot I added that in myself lol, Shaaba can come off as pretty naïve sometimes, maybe she was thinking it and the full thought just didn't make it into the video tho 😅 idk about sexual abuse specifically, but it's definitely abusive levels of controlling behavior at the *very* least. Here's hoping that OP can move out safely asap.
Waiting lists for medical stuff are already so very wrong and gouverments should make it a much higer priority to fix this. But the concept where you are then put back on a waiting list EVERY time you have to go back, that's just insane. I'm glad you stood your ground Shaaba.
Yes, please do another one of this forum! I love reading about how crazy some people can be and feeling grateful that I wasn't the one who had to deal with them. I'm just sorry for all the kids involved. Kids don't deserve any of this. If I were the mom of birthday girl in the first story I would have gone on the complete opposite direction and would ask the photographer specifically to take cute photos of my daughter with her new found twin. Think of all the cute shots you could get!!
I love these types of videos! I'm so glad this one is 30min long. As a person from an abusive home I felt so invalidated and gaslit my whole childhood when I spoke up and set boundaries, and it feels like so relieving to hear people holding parents accountable for their actions. Just because you have a kid doesn't make you a god to them; you can still fuck up and be expected to remedy that. Anyways thanks Shaaba!
Honestly, Karen is often used to put women in their place when they're advocating for themselves. Much like bitch is. Don't feel guilty for standing up for yourself Shaaba!
I disagree. As a woman on the internet I, for myself, see a very clear difference between a woman standing up for herself and a "KAREN". I have not, as of yet, seen a "Karen" that was not a white, hetero, cis, homo- and transphobic bigot on the internet being called a "Karen". And I am effing thankful for that. Because that's what Karens are! Bigots. Real queens stand next to other real queens! Women support women, as long as they are no bigots.
@@lemcy1256you haven’t seen any other example because they don’t make entertaining or shocking content on the internet, but I (also a woman) have listened to the people around me call women Karens for completely reasonable behavior. Not to their faces, sure, but the Karen label is still policing women subconsciously. There are women who let themselves get walked all over for fear of being called a Karen. Even Shaaba is analyzing her more that reasonable behavior and assigning the label to herself.
@@Shoulderpads-mcgee Oh my godess sorry, love! So sad to hear that! I am lucky enough to never have encountered "Karen" being used in that way against women. All I can say is that women, and all other humans for that matter, should always stand up for other kind and friendly human beings. Be kind to others (even if your imho stupid religion tells you otherwise) because being kind and forgiving is the best thing to do!
i mean karen does specifically mean a subset of women (white, (upper) middle class, racist) whoe act entitled and look down on poc and lower class people. i agree that it's sadly been warped that some ppl use it to mean "women i don't like stands up for herself" but i don't think it should be separated from it's original root, not do i think it's the same as bitch which is inherently derogatory. i think poc should be able to complain about the mistreatment they get from white women
@@AstronomicalJelly no one said PoC shouldn’t be allowed to complain about their marginalized experiences, it’s just that Karen has lost a lot of its original meaning and now it’s circled around to making WoC feel bad for standing up for themselves
I really appreciate you talking about how even allies of minorities aren't always in the position to stand up against bigotry!! bigots are terrible people, there's a chance it'll be unsafe for anyone who challenges or goes against their awful views. or, as you said, it can be pointless in cases
present distraction and post-support are great alternatives that can stop escalation and be a lot safer for everyone involved x
@@shaaba for sure!!!!
You are NOT a Karen if you complain about completely legitimate issues in a normal way... You weren't being entitled, unfair, screaming, calling people names or whatever else Karens do.
The bigger question is whether any kid was cool enough to be vixen Maid Marian.
Mom with no understanding of privacy:My mom like this. It's rather funny, but it drove me crazy .We lived together in our home, and she always broke through the toilet door, even if I was already there, doing my business. So I started to lock it, whenever I was in. She kept trying to march in there mindlessly. Whenever she got stopped by the locked door, she kept yelling:- Why did you locked the door??! -
Like, really?
After many attempts to explain to her, that because she never mind if I am already there, I just stopped responding.
It happened all the time.
Some people just don't understand privacy.
Standing up for yourself when there is a legit problem is not being a Karen.
That is me just learning what a toxic boy mum was. It immediately made me think about my ex-boyfriend's mother. I visited her and the first day when I left to go to sleep I remember my ex telling me how she had complained about me. She said to him I obviously had a mental disorder, that I was being all slutty with him, that I was preventing her dog from spending time with him. There was a lot more stuff, but I can't remember it. She did this the next night too and I decided it would be best to leave (I was meant to be there a week). She kicked me out the next day in the middle of nowhere in Scotland. I ended up getting two coaches to my grandad's who lives a bit north of Inverness. It was such a crazy day.
Super late to the party, but just wanted to mention that Shaaba is majorly underrated. Her music has been keeping my head together lately, and the light, love, and care she brings to every video is stunning and so heartwarming.
you are beyond sweet, thank you for your kind words! so glad you like the music, big hugs x
The restaurant owner in story 2 is so patient still being able to say ma’am
How can someone be too young for *talking to and hugging* another person?
How can anyone sexualize that?!
Moreover when it's involving two bloody five-year-olds?!?!
Sometimes I just cannot understand people.
I don't think any business owner will appreciate someone starting a whole fight in their business. Screaming match or fist fight it just isn't a good time for anyone. It is important to speak up, but reading the room is important. Sometimes it is better not to white knight for someone who just wants the moment to pass more than anything.
Edit: Also, you were not a Karen! That hospital worker screwed you over and was rude. She was taking out her frustration on the last customer on you and didn't do her job. Sad to say you have to advocate for yourself when systems are not doing what they should and your health is on the line. I would have asked for a complaint form, that woman at registration who made you wait that long needs written up and retrained. That is insane.
Am I a bad person for saying I think I would have started the car? Like, just walk it slowly into place, either they move or they move.
Also, if that was me at the receptionist appointment, not only would I also have waited so long because I assume they know what they're doing (also in my country doctors usually take a while to see you) I would have also loudly complained. What I would have done differently though is ask for the details of the receptionist and write a complaint. She's at a HOSPITAL. She HAS to be careful at her job.
I'm going to laugh so hard it'll be proper _cackling_ if the two little girls from the first story take the "twins!" attitude, run with it, and end up besties 😂
I went for an MRI today, and when done I called for a Lyft. I get notified that the driver is there and I'm standing outside and the car was no where around. I start telling him.. I'm wearing a grey hoodie and black pants, I walk with a cane..." And it dawns on me, "Oh yeah, I'm overweight and have electric lime green hair." When he finally made it over to me, and I tell him I'm so sorry, the hair color is new and it didn't dawn on me. He looks at me, says "No problem, but next time you should just lead with that." We both cracked up.
On the last one, a wild Karen has appeared. It hurt itself in its confusion.
The mom isn’t genuinely concerned for her safety, she’s being paranoid and over-controlling. It’s the type of mom that tons of kids who grew up with strict parents are used to. The lack of privacy is a lack of respect, not a concern for her daughter’s safety.
If you are not being quickly rushed to be seen at the doctor/hospital, that is a good thing, because it means you are not activly dying
Agreed
A similar thing happened to me, though it was a much smaller appointment and an annoyance more than anything. My first med appointment after changing my name I checked in and gave the receptionist the name and sex change paperwork. She was annoyed and asked me if it needed to be done now. I told her I'd already sent the paperwork to my insurance, and it needed to be done as I'm trans-non-binary and my account and paperwork needed to match my now legal identity, and that I only had a couple copies of the paperwork and needed it back. I also didn't trust that it would be done if I left, and I was really tired of seeing my dead name on all my account stuff, including after appointment paperwork, and appointment reminders.
She then spent twenty-five minutes making these changes as I sat there. Then afterward she told me I was late for my appointment and had to reschedule. I was really confused, as it was only five minutes after the appointment started. She told me I needed to be there ten minutes early. She hadn't checked me in when I first came up to her, before I gave her the paperwork. It's been several years and I still get the sense that she unchecked me in whenever I think about it.
Also, the incident with the receipt at the restaurant was APPALLING!! Even though no one was in a position to stand up to her at the time, I believe she WILL one day receive consequences for her outrageous behaviour and attitude.
Yes, I would enjoy seeing another episode.
Your story reminded me of why I had to change OBGYN. The doctor was wonderful, but the receptionist at the place? Disastrous. I went 3 times before I got fed up. She would never inform me when I had to pay prior to the appointment (public health care here), she would forget to write me in, she was extremely rude to people that looked nervous, and one time (last time I went there) she even crossed my name out because another lady told her she was leaving to be somewhere else and she didn't ask for her name ????
I waited 2 extra hours that day, on top of the 1 hour usual wait (some patients get a double booked appointment if they have something urgent, I don't mind, I've been there), and had like a few panic attacks (or a big, lengthy one) on the waiting room because waiting rooms are overstimulating and I had to be in a completely different city in half an hour (after the 3 hour wait, that is)
I tried to schedule with the doctor in another hospital, but the waiting list was over a year, and I was in no position to wait that long, so I had to find someone else. I'm still sad about it, she was a very good doc
I never said anything directly to the receptionist, but I did tell the doctor about the crossed out name when I got in the room and I was still crying mid panic, and I 100% told some friends I hated her and hoped she'd get fired every time I went there
19:20 the thing is that you should be grateful if they’re seeing others before you, because more urgent matters take priority, so you having to wait is actually an almost good thing.
I too have a mom that just barges into my space thinking I am up to shenanigans if the door is closed or worse locked. She actually accused me of having snuck a man into the house (I'm ace). I really upset her when I pointed out that most men my age can afford their own place and it wouldn't involve sneaking in windows and trying to be quiet to avoid crazy mothers with no sense of privacy. 😂
I love love love love that the Aurora girl's parents are still making efforts to foster her relationship with her friend with the a-hole mom. My childhood friends are some of the very most precious people, and things in general, in my life and you never know, maybe those two will become best friends for life ❤
Thinking about the last one, while the mum behaved absolutely ridiculously, this also makes me think of the situation here in Germany. We often have special, bigger parking slots for families as well as for disabled people, and while I belong in neither of these groups, I hate it when people park there without needing to. Simple reason being that for wheelchairs as well as for baby carriers you usually need to open the car doors a lot wider than you normally would. Try doing that in a very narrow slot without hitting other cars. That is, if you can get out of the car and/or get your baby out of the car at all. So yes, please don't block those slots, folks - they're there for a reason. And if there was such a difference between the two slots available (like, one a family slot, one a normal one), it would explain the mum's behaviour at least to some degree.
About the EM who ruined her daughter's birthday party--yes, if the party was ruined, then it is the EM and not the OP who ruined it: I think this is all about someone who simply cannot bear to be wrong. Some people with this affliction will go to extremes not only to insist that they were not the one who was wrong, but then to turn themselves into victims ("I've been so traumatized that I can't even bear to look at the party photos!"), and to never let it go. Run, do not walk, away from this kind of person.
This first story is a rollercoaster. Like you said, this mom should get a hobby. I can't comprehend how you can be this obsessed about a dress at a kids party...
Shaaba, you were not a Karen at the hospital. There is a big difference between Karens and crying because you're genuinely upset and frustrated and through that, saying "I'm sorry and I know it's not your fault but I really need to be seen."
The hospital one really hit a nerve with me; I used to work in the busiest eye outpatient department in the hospital (think a few hundred people a day), and the number of people who would complain about wait times when the appointment letter clearly advises to allow for upto 4 hours. On top of that, because of the huge amount of people being seen in a day, a lot of patients will have the same arrival time (but be seen by a different doctor) and some people arrive late while others arrive early. For all that EP knew, OP could have had an earlier appointment time than her.
Shaabs we NEED I MEAN NEED “The Drama “ merch, same text everything
I love my Crocs, they are the most comfortable shoes I have ever worn. Plus they have a light up rocket ship on them. :)
I would have given EM her money back and refused to serve her. Just get out of the restaurant.
Shaaba's story about the hospital is exactly why I'm uncomfortable with calling problematic people "Karens". I don't like that it's gender specific towards women. Granted, all the people in these stories from the forum are problematic. Their behavior is unacceptable and deplorable. But all Shaaba did was stand up for herself. Something that a man in her exact situation (assuming that a man would even have been as doubted as she was) would have felt no qualms about doing. I'm always uncomfortable complaining or standing up for myself in public, especially in service places, for fear that I'll be written off and maligned as a "Karen". It feels like another tool to keep women in "their place", along the same lines as accusing women of being overly emotional or up tight. I wish society would come up with a more gender neutral term for people who act like assholes.
That word would be “asshole”
big agree with both of these!
Having quite a few "Mum" friends the whole costume wearing thing can be a *big* issue with some parents.
I've seen some hosts who have popped on the invite, "Blah blah will be wearing this costume. What will your individual costume be" as a polite way of saying my kid will be wearing this at their bday party, appreciate if there aren't any other children dressed the same.
But, some don't specify and you may get 3 or 4 kids in the same costumes.
Some parents laugh it off and explain to kids it's ok to share the "role" of whoever the costume is of. E.g. a power ranger.
However, *some* parents lose their ever loving minds about it and a kid who had 0 issues with sharing their costume idea with others, now has a complex and also begings to get upset and think it's unfair as *their* parent is being a d-head about it, causing a scene that their child (and others) can see and hear. Making the party full of tension and overall miserable for everyone.
Unfortunately in a world full of many mythical and magical characters and people having themed parties, this will happen. As many children fixate on particular characters and want to be that character and dress the same. So there's bound to be double, triple, quadruple ups. And that's ok.
Generally it's the parents/caregivers who have the issues and behave like kids themselves as they have a tantrum about it.
It's toxic yet so common and I don't understand why a grown adult has to ruin a 4yo bday party (for example), just because *they* think it's an issues where the kids couldn't give a farrrkk. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
As a receptionist at a doctor's office. People who come in after you, may have appointments before you. We see people in the order they are scheduled, not in the order that they come through the door. It was rare for us to run behind because we schedules new patients for 30 mins and existing patients for 15 minutes. He saw one patient at a time.
I was a receptionist from about 1993 to 2022. There was a very obvious change when cell phones became a thing. back in the 90's, parents taught their kids to learn to sit quietly. sometimes they would read a book or magazine. Closer to 2022, its a rare kid that knew how to sit still and the parents were so involved on their phones, they didn't care. At the same time, I was glad when parents let the kids use their phones.. with ear phones!
12:56 when you're dealing with irate customers, "sir" and "ma'am" isn't really about respect.
It's a de-escalation strategy to try and get them out without things getting loud (which disrupts other customers) or violent.
The last one was weird because while the other people were being annoying, OP certainly could have seen a spot 2 spots down and had no particular reason to park in that one if there were people standing there for any reason.
OH! My Gosh, me too.
I get really angry, I cry & not pretty little tears,
a soft glow, no, I get big giant crocodile tears,
Ugly & snot everywhere...
Oh, yes, I am a true princess.
Truly drooling...LOL IMHO
When my son was 5, a therapist had come to our house to talk about something. My son really liked this person, so he ran up and gave her a hug in the living room. Later we found out that she had reported him to her supervisor for "inappropriate touching" and us as his parents for letting him do it. Supervisor just brushed it off, saying this therapist was fresh out of training, and eager to use all the buzz words. Context is always a good thing!
The birthday girl's mum in the first story created a problem when there wasn't one, and now can't stop obsessing over this imaginary problem. At least she owned up to telling lies to their friend group in order to make Aurora's mum seem like a villain. But healthy, happy grown-ups simply do not act like deranged middle schoolers. I hope she gets help for whatever her problem is! The kids really do pick up on stuff like this & it will affect her children more & more profoundly as time goes on.
Do I smell a The Click collab in your future? I assume you know who he is and how to get in touch with him since Jamie did a collab with him recently. The Click LOVES entitled parents, maybe he'll even let you play bingo with him. That would be fun!
So your story about your appointment is literally just another Monday in US healthcare. The only difference is at the end of it, we get charged $300 for the missed appointment, $30,000 for the procedure, and $100 for the one pill of asprin that they send you home with.
I keep confusing Entitled Parents with Insane Parents... Definitely not mutually exclusive but also not the same.
Yeah I was expecting stories on a whole nother level but I simply can’t read
“NO!!! Do not bring Shrek Crocs into my house!” 😂😂😂
Her use of the term low and behold indicates she wasn't aware of the other open parking spot until the red truck pulled into it.
At a restaurant i generally would tip more than otherwise and would say to the restaurant owner ‘well! That was out of bounds, wasn’t it?’ in sympathy
I also cry when I get frustrated! It's sometimes so difficult for ppl to take you seriously when you're crying as well :(
I didn't know there was a specific word online for "toxic boy moms" but my family has a saying about moms who only spoil their sons? I can't remember the words rn but like they'll treat their daughters like little moms even when they're younger than their son and be very precious with their sons and stuff like that.
I FEEL SO MUCH FOR YOU omg I’m ADHD and autistic plus depression NEEDLESS TO SAY that i’m PRETTY sensitive lol.
so when such things happen I’m just breaking out in ridiculously hard flow of tears. and unfortunately many people see this as manipulation to get what I want (yeah, if I could control it, I’D RATHER NOT).
Story one. The mom of the birthday girl wanted to single out one child to not take part in the fun costume party. THAT is an AH move IMO. These are four/five year old kids having fun dressing up together. Aurora would have really felt out of place and unwanted if she was the only one not dressed up as a princess. When I was a kid, kids still dressed up at school for Halloween, and there was one kid in my 4th grade class who didn't get to do that because his parents were the crazy "we wont worship the devil!" type of religious when it came to the holiday. That kid was the only kid in the entire school not dressed up, which would be very obvious since the school did a parade. starting with the 5th graders walking in a line through the 4th grader classrooms who then joined the end of the line to go through the 3rd grade rooms and so on. That kid was very upset when he was the only one not dressed up as a favorite character or generic costume idea. He ended up spending his recess time in the art room making a mask out of a paper plate just so he would secretly have something for the parade. He hid the mask when a teacher was taking pictures for the yearbook, and none of us kids ever outed him to his parents because we all thought it was stupid that he wasn't allowed to join in the fun.
Yes, we need more of this.
Also, that poor restaurant owner. Thats just repugnant behaviour and I really do feel for them
Sounds to me like the birthday girl's mom is the type of person who lives through her child, because she sees two kids being dressed in the same costume, even if her daughter wasn't upset, views it as a bad thing.
Gosh, the waiting room situations are always so hard. I had to go in for chest pain a couple of times and it took so long to get seen with the triage and stuff because there was nothing visibly wrong with me
I can relate to the hospital stress, I was in the hospital for a broken foot and the receptionist sent me the long way round to the broken bone clinic bit. I realised when I looked at the map and saw I could have took an elevator and walked a couple of seconds. Long story short, my broken foot hasn't fully recovered because I was sent in circles for 2 hours with no crutch or aid.
An ENT is an ear/nose/throat physician, which you're often required to see to have your tonsils out in the US.
I can understand why having someone go straight back to an appointment would be frustrating when youve been waiting with restless kids, but like. Its called triage. It's a basic function of the medical system. Its not difficult to grasp. Even if you dont see someone coughing up blood, it's probably best to assume that the nurses are doing their best. Goodness me.
Oh my god, that entitled mom in the first story is giving serious Mean Girls vibes.
This is why I park in the middle of nowhere in a parking lot....way away from everyone else lol
23:20 I also cry when I get frustrated especially if something so simple isn't going right.
You are definitely not a Karen for advocating.
I too had to advocate for myself recently. I went to a drs appointment for the first time by myself to talk about the pain I get in my legs. And all he could talk about was deiting and exercising, when I am disabled, and barely eat anyway. I told him this but because I'm fat he had the script in his head and he was going to stick to it.
I got out of the appointment and called my mum to tell her, she was furious and when I got home she called the hospital and told them how disgusted she was with his behaviour and how I was already struggling with my weight I didn't need to be told any of that. She had me switched to another dr who was a man and said the same things.
Then my mum had me switched to my sister's dr who is a woman and a lot nicer about touchy subjects, she had me do physio and is getting me tested for a few different things that can help in finding out the best way to exercise without hurting myself or it being poitless.
She also helped my other sister in her medical journey. And she is literally a godsend.
Idk why most drs just want to send you away with a plaster. They should be school nurses lol. Idk why some people study so hard to become shit drs with no people skills.
I hate moms like the first one. They are more worried about appearances then their child's happiness. The birthday girl was super happy of having a "twin" at the party. But the mother wanted to take this happiness away just because she cares so much about appearances....
Omg your story about crying when you're frustrated I can empathize with it lol omg i am a frustration crier
Oh my god-the *drama*. Such a fun video- definitely hope you do another entitled parents. These ones were absolutely bonkers. Also-you weren’t being a Karen. Sometimes you really do need to make a fuss for anyone to pay attention, and this was definitely justified.
Fully agree with you. And for the last one, both were acting way weird! If there was a parking spot literally two spots to the side, why did the poster insist on that one spot that those people were standing in 🤦
Strange people meet strange people sometimes... rather that, than what happened to a guy I know: he was attacked for the spot he parked in. Supposedly someone else was waiting for that spot, and instead of giving him a chance to leave he just attacked him 0-0);
Why are all medical receptionists heartless robots? Is the humanity just sucked out of them by the job?
Your hospital situation is what happens when people blindly follow the rules without using their common sense. That person had a rule in her head that "people who miss their appointment time dont get seen and go to the bottom of the waiting list" - when actually there are legitimate exceptions and if you think about it for 5 seconds your situation should obviously be one of those!
When I was a kid my mum would book the last GP appt of the day for me as it meant I wouldnt have to miss school. I remember once my school bus was late and so we were a few minutes late to the appt. The receptionist said we couldn't be seen - even though the clinic was running an hour behind anyway! I'm guessung they saw it as a chance to catch up - except we would just have to book another so it would actually waste more time! That or I think some people just like having the power...
That princess party mom is totally unhinged.
I would hazard a guess that she is living through her daughter in some way, what a delightful person /s
Who wants to see Rollie, Jamie, Shaaba, One topic and The Click all play cards against humanity.
😂