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Sweetwater, didn’t really mention Inserts. One of the most used features for me when I’m at my Wednesday night FoH gig on an old Mix Wizard. My Sunday morning gig is going to update to a digital board. I’m assuming all the I/O is assignable wit digital. So, you wouldn’t have a physical insert per track? Do these digital boards actually negate the need for outboard gear? Can we now do it all in-the-box?
I viewed this video some months ago, and i can categorically say that the time i've spent since then in the studio, making music, and learning stage sound has gone a long way in helping me understand better as I watch it again. That said, the Behringer X32 is a behemoth I look forward to acquiring for studio and event use. I've also looked up the Zoom L20 and it is quite impressive, but nothing was said about it in this video.
Great speaking and presentation. You spoke very rapidly, to 'get everything in', yet that was fine, it was very clear and articulating, comprehensive, and personable. The concept(s) are very logical, so that helped it along also. I liked that you covered a bit from a 'worship' perspective also.
I know it would take me half an hour to work out a digital mixer but I'm analogue all the way. I have my own sound business and there's no difference in the sound between both desks. Keep it simple keep it analogue 👍😁
This video is outstanding. Best explanation I’ve heard about the two technologies thus far. You’ve helped me to better understand the investment we’re about to make! Thanks!!
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Sorry if this is a newbie thing, but I figured I'd share just in case it is and there are other newbies here. I just learned that if you partially insert a mono TS cable into the "Insert" jack on an analog mixer, it acts as a direct line out without interrupting the signal through the mixer. If you push it in all the way it will interrupt the signal flow, but just one click in the insert jack sends and does not cut out. Send that out to a separate mixer and you can create a monitor mix that is entirely tweak-able on it's own depending on the features of the second mixer. Downside to that is you need a snake or just a lot of extra cabling. Still, I think it's pretty cool that is even possible to do on an analog mixer. EQ'ing my own monitor is absolutely fantastic.
@@arpmuless_official as someone who also does a small church get one with sub grouping. we had a halg digital which i enjoyed but we needed a new board since old one was going out, went with analog and limited a bunch of things even lost my favorite thing which was sub grouping so i went from muting 1 button to 4 singers, 2 guitars,1 piano (7 buttons) . it's really not a enjoyable experience trying to mute and unmute everyone as fast as possibly, I sometimes will make a mistake and forget to unmute someone...
I have had the full sized x32 now for a few years and it has been a great investment. I just recently had to decide to either add another s16 stage box, or get an x32 compact for FOH, and my x32 is used as the stage box and by my monitor tech. And so far this has been an amazing layout. I have not found the wing to be all that appealing though. It is more capable, but the controls are less accessible by the looks. Everything takes 1 or 2 extra steps over an x32 which already takes 1 or 2 extra steps over my old soundcraft analog console. And I don't think that is really moving forward. Its not like an Allan Heath touch console which takes the concept much further.
I think the industry hasn't quite realised the potential of digital mixing yet, especially with the rise of Dante and audio networking. This is how I see it... Live audio mixing is now physically separate from 3 elements in traditional mixing consoles. Those 3 elements are input routing, output routing and mixer control. This means that the only physical thing that a mixer essentially needs for a live show of any size is a powerful, low latency processing module with 1 Ethernet connection (or 2 for redundancy) and a power supply. And the most important part of the mixer is the software. The future is in the software and it has to be powerful but simple at the same time. Software and processing hardware for 128 or more dante channels would enable the mixer to scale up to any performance size. So what about inputs, outputs and mixer control? Inputs and outputs are simply I/O modules connected on the network. This allows for the purchasing of only the necessary hardware for any particular application. Control is from hardware that connects on a computer network, the most obvious being tablets and large touchscreens. Traditional physical mixing desks could still be used but they are really just a fancy and expensive computer controller, and they are the only hardware that will need to be customised to the mixer engine, although there may even be development of a standard to enable third party desks to talk to a mixer. There is no reason a large touchscreen controller couldn't display the same thing as an analogue mixer if so desired, and it allows switching between unlimited views and control setups. The input and output modules (and A/D D/A converters) can be provided by any manufacturer because they simply route channels to and from the dante network. Screen based control hardware can also be by any manufacturer. I like the idea of platform-independent browser-based software. I don't like the idea of iOS only software. There will be great competition in the software arena. Tablets and phones will enable mixing from mobile locations and could control the mixing at the same time as physical desk controllers or fixed touchscreen controllers. This will also enable the number of DAC conversions to be kept to a minimum. Ideally music will either be born digital or created in analogue and quickly converted to digital and not converted back to analogue until it reaches the amplifier. Low latency is critical to the audio stream and important but less critical for the controller. So generic computers may not be ideal for the actual mixing engine hardware, but may be fine for the controller. For a large live show, I'm picturing a powerful control computer connected to 1 or more large tv displays which could be combined with large desktop touchscreens. There is no need for the main signal to go through this computer. The actual mixing engine could be on the stage, or anywhere on the network. Therefore I tend to think all current analogue and digital mixing consoles will soon be irrelevant. The implications are massive and the market is open for innovation. Those who choose to 'protect' their hardware investments will risk going the way of Kodak. Just my thoughts. What do others think?
The product line of analog console is experiencing a split: Super economic ones providing budget choice for simple basic scenarios of fixed installation and live sessions, and super expensive ones enabling higher audio quality and distinctive sound coloration for high-end studios. All the intermediate scenarios of application would be dominated by digital boards.
Excellent video........I always live by the motto....."KISS....Keep it simple silly".....the more complex something is, the more difficult it can be to learn it in a pinch
Very few digital mixers have fantastic sound quality. Converting a signal back and forth between analogue and digital always destroys the sound to some degree, and most digital mixers use poor converters. Analogue is still king if you care about sound!
That may have been true in the ages of 16/24-bit 44.1k depth and sample max, but we live in the days of 40-bit 192k. The days when analog was superior are like the days when Apple was superior - about a decade ago. Try a blind A/B test with no bias - you may be surprised. Also since I know they'll come out of the orchard swamp, Macs are just PC's in a prettier box for twice the hardware price, they stopped using proprietary hardware early 2000's. Why do you think it can run Windows? Enjoy.
The good old britsh sound, strong preamp and eq that is all we need aftér a. Good sounding band playing good arrangements and dynamic, there is no secret,
we had a digital mixer, new pastor bought a analog the same one in the viceo I recommend any church if analog or digital buy one that groups. it saves you some times i went from clicking 1 buttons to click 7 buttons every sunday Digital Music group (1) ---- Pastors mic (1) extra mic (1) Analog Music groups (5) Guitars (2) ---- Pastors mic (1) extra mic (1) so your trying to mute 7 buttons as fast as possible or unmute them, groups really comes in handy
I hate the X32 in live situations. The interface is like looking at a museum through a keyhole. The immediacy of a pile of knobs cannot be understated. Now, in a recording studio, where you have time, its probably a lot more useful.
I dont think its meant as much for the live setting, however if you can get it all set up before hand you could certainly get some powerful results with a digital mixer
Have a look at Dave Rat (Red Hot Chili Peppers engineer) RUclips channel ruclips.net/channel/UC_nJM07b0k7C9CvcM-9OH6w He is currently uploading a series of analog/digital desk comparison videos. He is addressing the measurable differences and I think he will move on to sound "color".
Commonly enjoying an analog consols and trying my best for do much better at a digital mixer... Its a huge different experient whlie using both of them..
i spent a lot of money on studio one and im realizing i prefer analog sounds. If i got an analog mixer, would studio one(and my audio interface) still be useful?
Hey, Novah. Thanks for checking out our RUclips video. Live consoles can absolutely be used in the studio. They are different and have different features sets than studio consoles, but if it works for you and has what you are looking for, then the answer is 100% yes. The line between the consoles over the years has really started to shrink, as well. I would recommend making sure to look at a few major features to make sure it is right, though. Here are the main things to keep an eye on. 1. Preamps and signal to noise 2. Playback and return from your DAW 3. Fader Control and automation Digital Consoles will make this much easier, as they tend to act as interfaces and talk more with your DAW. With analog consoles you really have to make sure you have all the inputs and outputs you need, and then you will need an interface of some sort to make that work. If there is anything else I can help with, please let me know. Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Hi Mitch Gallagher, thanks for for tutorial, and I heard say if I have a questions I must contact Sweetwater, But Sweetwater doe reply, I have sent them too many emails more than 20 emails, I didnt get a respond until now, I started sending email since last year, was inquering about some hardwares and microphone, but never got any respond form Sweetwater
But when you connect an analog mixer to a computer via usb does I dont think it offers multitrack recording most of the times but a digital mixer always does. Correct me if im wrong.
Thank you for this great video! When mixing analog, you are mixing electric signals, with digital you are mixing bits so it's not the same. I prefer mixing analog. That's why analog summing mixers are there too.
You're still mixing electrical signal on both the front end and back end, so you're only half right. Otherwise the transducers (I.e. the microphones, speakers, etc.) wouldn't be able to produce anything beyond pure digital noise. They require an electrical signal to drive the electro-magnetic coils present in all of those to work. Now you can argue that the A/D's and D/A's in digital consoles are bad, but that is largely untrue in this day and age in comparison to just a little over a decade ago and also still heavily depends on the architecture of the Mic pre's feeding them. I'll take a true Midas Mic pre over a focusrite or yamaha any day but would also take a Neve Mic pre over the Midas.
Question: If im using an external interface to convert Digital mp3 from a laptop (USB output ) into analog output......then into a digital mixer... then out to powered speakers. Am I converting it from digital to analog to digital to analog? Or does it stay analog once its analog?
This begs the question, why isn't there a analog/digital hybrid system? In a perfect scenario, I get a analog board with the traditional layout but with the addition of some manner of touch screen or computer display that allows me to add plug ins, have sweepable or parametric eq, compression, vocal effects, etc. Analog isn't enough for me but I will never go fully digital. I don't want to spend my time going thru menus mixing my band on the fly
Basic difference is the learning curve. Most mixers are way too complicated. You and your fellow mixers will always prefer the simpler analog mixers. Until they are experienced on that particular digital mixer. So, if you have to ask? The answer is analog.
Dear Sir, thanks for your advisable explanations!!!! I asked one question from so many sound professionals but nobody able to give an answer to that question. This is the question: The all chanel faders strips have been labelled as -15, -10, -5,0+5,+10 db. I need to know what does it mean by - 15 and +15 db????? Specially - and + signs??? Why do they mention only between -15 and +15 db????? Someone told me that it is so complicated to understand. Is it true?????? Thanks!!!
The numbers represent the amount of attenuation -ve or gain +ve relative to the normal value 0db. So 0db represents the straight through value. The numbers are a log scale which allows gain or attenuation to be calculated by adding and subtracting rather than multiplying and dividing. 6db - 10db range is typically perceived as half -ve or double volume +ve.
Have a look at Dave Rat RUclips channel, he is uploading analog/digital comparison videos ruclips.net/channel/UC_nJM07b0k7C9CvcM-9OH6w Note though that conversion latency is only a one part of the delay in a digital desk. The "big expensive" desks have much (sometimes much much) lower latency in the processing stage.
Not from my experience... i use a fairly vintage Mix Wizard once a week. Very solid. I also use a Soundcraft (mid 2000’s) as a recording mixer for mics scattered around a cathedral. I am loosing channels... usually during performances.
Dear Sir, I have an unclear point about 1/4 inch input jack connectors in mixing console. I want to know that whether we're can plug TS or TRS jacks? I need to clear out that these input are always mono???? If the 1/4 inch input connectors are mono, how can we plug stereo jack( if we need to fix a keyboard how can we use one channel??? Or need to use 2 channels to get the stereo picture???) I haven't seen plenty stereo inputs in console in general.
You cant plug stereo keyboard into a mono channel. Thats what the channels with a slash are for 11/12 etc. TRS are NOT stereo are balanced inputs for when there is no XLR connections for cheaper smaller mixers, but still can plug a balnced Mic wire to a "Stereo" Plug, or for Inserts Fxs which one tip sends and the other (ring) recieves back to the channel..
Ohh, and another thing: Front of house footprint.... Analog takes serious real estate, digital might be just a smartphone.. or better yet haptic gloves and Google Glass...
ill just stick to my trusted analog mixer and out board gear its quicker not all of us are computor wizz es plus i like the warmth with dgi its just bla
Digital mixer is going to work better with DAW then Analog mixer. Analog mixer is only going to send you 2 stereo signal to your DAW, Whereas with Digital mixer will send more.
This is not entirely true. An analogue console can have as many outputs as a digital mixer, difference is you will need an interface to convert the analogue signal to digital. Most analogue consoles have direct outs on all inputs, aux outs, group outs, matrix outs, record outs, monitor outs and of course stereo, sometimes LCR main outs. It just depends on what desk you get. It is of course going to be easier to link a digital desk to your DAW for multitrack recording, but it can also be done with an analogue desk.
@@mistersmoker7443 I bought an X32 to multi-track record into Logic, but i sold it because the routing was too complicated for me as my first mixer. Now I'm considering an analogue mixer. Is there such a thing as a "simple" digital mixer for multi-track recording to computer? or should I just buy a multi-input interface (like the X Air 18) and call it a day?
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Sweetwater, didn’t really mention Inserts. One of the most used features for me when I’m at my Wednesday night FoH gig on an old Mix Wizard. My Sunday morning gig is going to update to a digital board. I’m assuming all the I/O is assignable wit digital. So, you wouldn’t have a physical insert per track? Do these digital boards actually negate the need for outboard gear? Can we now do it all in-the-box?
what is lowest audio latency the best digital mixer can get me in ms?
awesome explanation
So what's better for Djing
@@andym7333 between 1 and 2 ms
this is the best explanation of how analog and digital mixers does..
I wish you taught audio at a university so I could take the class to brush up on my skills! Very clearly explained!
Just get into a studio and get tf to work. Nobody needs to teach you anything
They do ? Music schools and lots of big state schools
Mitch is the BEST spokesman for any company I’ve ever heard !!
I viewed this video some months ago, and i can categorically say that the time i've spent since then in the studio, making music, and learning stage sound has gone a long way in helping me understand better as I watch it again. That said, the Behringer X32 is a behemoth I look forward to acquiring for studio and event use. I've also looked up the Zoom L20 and it is quite impressive, but nothing was said about it in this video.
Great speaking and presentation. You spoke very rapidly, to 'get everything in', yet that was fine, it was very clear and articulating, comprehensive, and personable. The concept(s) are very logical, so that helped it along also. I liked that you covered a bit from a 'worship' perspective also.
I know it would take me half an hour to work out a digital mixer but I'm analogue all the way.
I have my own sound business and there's no difference in the sound between both desks.
Keep it simple keep it analogue 👍😁
This video is outstanding. Best explanation I’ve heard about the two technologies thus far. You’ve helped me to better understand the investment we’re about to make! Thanks!!
Awesome video. You speak very clearly and present straight forward information. I appreciate how easy it was to learn from this.
Wonderful explanation. You are real good teacher. Congratulations. Keep up the good.
🎶🌄 Well Mitch for a beginning tutorial you definitely get an 'A' Like Everything I've come to expect nothing less than perfection from you + your company, short + 'Sweet' Conceptual w/out unnecessary redundant explanations.. Keep Rocking my brother + have a Great Holiday 🤘🏞🎸⛥🎵🌈🌟🍻😎✨
Mitch Gallagher you are the shit. Every video you do makes so much sense to me. I’m learning this so easily.
Yes..very useful..Hi..you are more streaming speech than Demo speech,yet clear,crisp,to the point..than a snaling,dragging,,and sapped up...REALY A SUPERB TOPIC and a superb presentation..DrNanda.TN.India..Thank you
Yoooo Zed series is king. You're an awesome teacher btw - double this guy's pay lol.
i bought my audio interface from you guys and i live in australia, you guys are the best! 5*
Sorry if this is a newbie thing, but I figured I'd share just in case it is and there are other newbies here. I just learned that if you partially insert a mono TS cable into the "Insert" jack on an analog mixer, it acts as a direct line out without interrupting the signal through the mixer. If you push it in all the way it will interrupt the signal flow, but just one click in the insert jack sends and does not cut out. Send that out to a separate mixer and you can create a monitor mix that is entirely tweak-able on it's own depending on the features of the second mixer. Downside to that is you need a snake or just a lot of extra cabling. Still, I think it's pretty cool that is even possible to do on an analog mixer. EQ'ing my own monitor is absolutely fantastic.
I'm an analog guy stuck in a digital world.
Best explanation i've heard. So simple but full of data/ Thanks for this
Thank you, you have such a pleasing voice, I did learn something. TY SO MUCH... LOVE THIS VIDEO
Glad you enjoyed it! 😎👏
I was afraid of digital mixers jaja but being able to save presets catch my attention!
This 9 mins video cleared all of my doubts ,Thanks you so much for making it so simple this was really a easy understanding concept🙃🙏
Excellent video, clarified a lot of questions and made my buying-decisions easier :) Thanks!
That was a great breakdown and explanation.
Wow, smooth like water! Thanks
Its a big help to me.. im an audio man in a small church.. thanks..
Get a small mixer, for a church environment I dont think an analog mixer will work, those are more for Music Production, Mixing and Mastering
@@arpmuless_official as someone who also does a small church get one with sub grouping.
we had a halg digital which i enjoyed but we needed a new board since old one was going out, went with analog and limited a bunch of things even lost my favorite thing which was sub grouping
so i went from muting 1 button to 4 singers, 2 guitars,1 piano (7 buttons) . it's really not a enjoyable experience trying to mute and unmute everyone as fast as possibly, I sometimes will make a mistake and forget to unmute someone...
I never want to go back to an analog console again after getting my X32 Compact in Sep 2016 (and soon, the WING).
I have had the full sized x32 now for a few years and it has been a great investment. I just recently had to decide to either add another s16 stage box, or get an x32 compact for FOH, and my x32 is used as the stage box and by my monitor tech. And so far this has been an amazing layout. I have not found the wing to be all that appealing though. It is more capable, but the controls are less accessible by the looks. Everything takes 1 or 2 extra steps over an x32 which already takes 1 or 2 extra steps over my old soundcraft analog console. And I don't think that is really moving forward. Its not like an Allan Heath touch console which takes the concept much further.
@@wishusknight3009 I think the Wing is a more studio orientated digital console
@@VoyageOne1 That seems to be my impression as well.
I think the industry hasn't quite realised the potential of digital mixing yet, especially with the rise of Dante and audio networking. This is how I see it... Live audio mixing is now physically separate from 3 elements in traditional mixing consoles. Those 3 elements are input routing, output routing and mixer control. This means that the only physical thing that a mixer essentially needs for a live show of any size is a powerful, low latency processing module with 1 Ethernet connection (or 2 for redundancy) and a power supply. And the most important part of the mixer is the software. The future is in the software and it has to be powerful but simple at the same time. Software and processing hardware for 128 or more dante channels would enable the mixer to scale up to any performance size.
So what about inputs, outputs and mixer control? Inputs and outputs are simply I/O modules connected on the network. This allows for the purchasing of only the necessary hardware for any particular application. Control is from hardware that connects on a computer network, the most obvious being tablets and large touchscreens. Traditional physical mixing desks could still be used but they are really just a fancy and expensive computer controller, and they are the only hardware that will need to be customised to the mixer engine, although there may even be development of a standard to enable third party desks to talk to a mixer. There is no reason a large touchscreen controller couldn't display the same thing as an analogue mixer if so desired, and it allows switching between unlimited views and control setups.
The input and output modules (and A/D D/A converters) can be provided by any manufacturer because they simply route channels to and from the dante network. Screen based control hardware can also be by any manufacturer.
I like the idea of platform-independent browser-based software. I don't like the idea of iOS only software.
There will be great competition in the software arena. Tablets and phones will enable mixing from mobile locations and could control the mixing at the same time as physical desk controllers or fixed touchscreen controllers.
This will also enable the number of DAC conversions to be kept to a minimum. Ideally music will either be born digital or created in analogue and quickly converted to digital and not converted back to analogue until it reaches the amplifier.
Low latency is critical to the audio stream and important but less critical for the controller. So generic computers may not be ideal for the actual mixing engine hardware, but may be fine for the controller. For a large live show, I'm picturing a powerful control computer connected to 1 or more large tv displays which could be combined with large desktop touchscreens. There is no need for the main signal to go through this computer. The actual mixing engine could be on the stage, or anywhere on the network.
Therefore I tend to think all current analogue and digital mixing consoles will soon be irrelevant.
The implications are massive and the market is open for innovation. Those who choose to 'protect' their hardware investments will risk going the way of Kodak.
Just my thoughts. What do others think?
Multiple options universal
The product line of analog console is experiencing a split: Super economic ones providing budget choice for simple basic scenarios of fixed installation and live sessions, and super expensive ones enabling higher audio quality and distinctive sound coloration for high-end studios. All the intermediate scenarios of application would be dominated by digital boards.
SSL matrix - digital routing flexibility, full SSL analog mixing , DAW control.- best of both worlds
Great, easy to understand video for an audio newbie!
Excellent video........I always live by the motto....."KISS....Keep it simple silly".....the more complex something is, the more difficult it can be to learn it in a pinch
....Ocam Razor
I still prefer for analog. It is more easier a little bit to tuned and configured. Rather than digital.
Very good general comparison. 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
Nice explanation of both sir
This is great information. Thank you all for always posting helpful videos.
For the studio, digital. For live, analogue.
Man is slowly improving on technology and still a long way to go. William Percival New Zealand Gardenia Band 🇨🇰 Kia Orana
that’s not the new zealand flag bro
Analog is best for me … I need to see what’s happening in front of me , less is more 🤙… nice video
Very few digital mixers have fantastic sound quality. Converting a signal back and forth between analogue and digital always destroys the sound to some degree, and most digital mixers use poor converters. Analogue is still king if you care about sound!
Nyquist & Shannon would like to disagree with you.
That may have been true in the ages of 16/24-bit 44.1k depth and sample max, but we live in the days of 40-bit 192k. The days when analog was superior are like the days when Apple was superior - about a decade ago. Try a blind A/B test with no bias - you may be surprised. Also since I know they'll come out of the orchard swamp, Macs are just PC's in a prettier box for twice the hardware price, they stopped using proprietary hardware early 2000's. Why do you think it can run Windows? Enjoy.
I've never heard a digital board sound as good as my Allen & Heath mixwizard 16. To each his own.
Agreed! Have Mixwizard as well and the sound and simplicity trumps all the digital bells and whistles for me.
I would enjoy blindfolding you, and having you pick the analog console out at least 3 out of 5 times...
The good old britsh sound, strong preamp and eq that is all we need aftér a. Good sounding band playing good arrangements and dynamic, there is no secret,
Thanks Mitch!
Great video. He was good at explaining the stuff
I'm still happy with my A&H ZED-16FX.
TQVM for your superb explanation, Sir.
Thanks Mitch. Concise.
Digital mixers are AWESOME. Recall baby.... recall.
we had a digital mixer, new pastor bought a analog the same one in the viceo
I recommend any church if analog or digital buy one that groups. it saves you some times
i went from clicking 1 buttons to click 7 buttons every sunday
Digital
Music group (1)
----
Pastors mic (1)
extra mic (1)
Analog
Music groups (5)
Guitars (2)
----
Pastors mic (1)
extra mic (1)
so your trying to mute 7 buttons as fast as possible or unmute them, groups really comes in handy
Best explanation
I hate the X32 in live situations. The interface is like looking at a museum through a keyhole. The immediacy of a pile of knobs cannot be understated.
Now, in a recording studio, where you have time, its probably a lot more useful.
My first ever mixer was a x32 and i sold it after a couple months because i could not understand the routing.
I dont think its meant as much for the live setting, however if you can get it all set up before hand you could certainly get some powerful results with a digital mixer
This was excellent, very clear.
Thank you for this wonderful easy understandable video
Great and simple explanation, thanks! :)
Thanks for this clear explanation!
can you please explain the different between the quality of the sound? (I'm speaking about the "color", the harmonics, the ratio s/n....)
Have a look at Dave Rat (Red Hot Chili Peppers engineer) RUclips channel ruclips.net/channel/UC_nJM07b0k7C9CvcM-9OH6w
He is currently uploading a series of analog/digital desk comparison videos. He is addressing the measurable differences and I think he will move on to sound "color".
Commonly enjoying an analog consols and trying my best for do much better at a digital mixer...
Its a huge different experient whlie using both of them..
There are analog mixers that can do everything as digital also. Easy to use. Try the mackie onyx series.
i spent a lot of money on studio one and im realizing i prefer analog sounds.
If i got an analog mixer, would studio one(and my audio interface) still be useful?
Nice explanation Thank you Sweetwater...!!!
Live mixing console can be used in studio for mixing and mastering..?
Hey, Novah. Thanks for checking out our RUclips video. Live consoles can absolutely be used in the studio. They are different and have different features sets than studio consoles, but if it works for you and has what you are looking for, then the answer is 100% yes. The line between the consoles over the years has really started to shrink, as well. I would recommend making sure to look at a few major features to make sure it is right, though. Here are the main things to keep an eye on.
1. Preamps and signal to noise
2. Playback and return from your DAW
3. Fader Control and automation
Digital Consoles will make this much easier, as they tend to act as interfaces and talk more with your DAW. With analog consoles you really have to make sure you have all the inputs and outputs you need, and then you will need an interface of some sort to make that work.
If there is anything else I can help with, please let me know.
Thanks,
Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Hi Mitch Gallagher, thanks for for tutorial, and I heard say if I have a questions I must contact Sweetwater, But Sweetwater doe reply, I have sent them too many emails more than 20 emails, I didnt get a respond until now, I started sending email since last year, was inquering about some hardwares and microphone, but never got any respond form Sweetwater
Just call, they always answer and love helping customers on the phone
Thanks a lot! By the way, where can I find the sound of introduction please ? Sound so smooth
Excellent video! Good content.
Thank you sir, you are amazing...
Thank you for the video very insightful!
Huge thanks 🙂
Thanks buddy
But when you connect an analog mixer to a computer via usb does I dont think it offers multitrack recording most of the times but a digital mixer always does. Correct me if im wrong.
Thank you
Are there any mixers with just one XLR input that has tons of EQ options? Or is that just for the $500+ studio mixers?
Thank you.
Thank you for this great video!
When mixing analog, you are mixing electric signals, with digital you are mixing bits so it's not the same. I prefer mixing analog. That's why analog summing mixers are there too.
You're still mixing electrical signal on both the front end and back end, so you're only half right. Otherwise the transducers (I.e. the microphones, speakers, etc.) wouldn't be able to produce anything beyond pure digital noise. They require an electrical signal to drive the electro-magnetic coils present in all of those to work. Now you can argue that the A/D's and D/A's in digital consoles are bad, but that is largely untrue in this day and age in comparison to just a little over a decade ago and also still heavily depends on the architecture of the Mic pre's feeding them. I'll take a true Midas Mic pre over a focusrite or yamaha any day but would also take a Neve Mic pre over the Midas.
Wow I learned a lot about the different between digital & analog and what I can get for the money thank you
Question: If im using an external interface to convert Digital mp3 from a laptop (USB output ) into analog output......then into a digital mixer... then out to powered speakers.
Am I converting it from digital to analog to digital to analog? Or does it stay analog once its analog?
Been in the sound world for 13 years, 6 years analogue, then 7 years digital going forth
This begs the question, why isn't there a analog/digital hybrid system? In a perfect scenario, I get a analog board with the traditional layout but with the addition of some manner of touch screen or computer display that allows me to add plug ins, have sweepable or parametric eq, compression, vocal effects, etc. Analog isn't enough for me but I will never go fully digital. I don't want to spend my time going thru menus mixing my band on the fly
And stop to try to find harmonics you lost by using digital !
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Want to buy a mixer. But confused between analog & digital. What is best for live sound Yamaha MGP32X or Soundcraft Si Impact?
Basic difference is the learning curve. Most mixers are way too complicated. You and your fellow mixers will always prefer the simpler analog mixers. Until they are experienced on that particular digital mixer. So, if you have to ask? The answer is analog.
I don't know the SI impact but working since 25 years with yamaha console, i can tell you that they are well built and safe.
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Dear Sir, thanks for your advisable explanations!!!!
I asked one question from so many sound professionals but nobody able to give an answer to that question.
This is the question: The all chanel faders strips have been labelled as -15, -10, -5,0+5,+10 db. I need to know what does it mean by - 15 and +15 db????? Specially - and + signs???
Why do they mention only between -15 and +15 db?????
Someone told me that it is so complicated to understand. Is it true??????
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The numbers represent the amount of attenuation -ve or gain +ve relative to the normal value 0db. So 0db represents the straight through value. The numbers are a log scale which allows gain or attenuation to be calculated by adding and subtracting rather than multiplying and dividing. 6db - 10db range is typically perceived as half -ve or double volume +ve.
thanks, could you confirm the digital mixer performance in terms of latency while the conversion A/D and then D/A.. thanks again
Have a look at Dave Rat RUclips channel, he is uploading analog/digital comparison videos ruclips.net/channel/UC_nJM07b0k7C9CvcM-9OH6w
Note though that conversion latency is only a one part of the delay in a digital desk. The "big expensive" desks have much (sometimes much much) lower latency in the processing stage.
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Not from my experience... i use a fairly vintage Mix Wizard once a week. Very solid. I also use a Soundcraft (mid 2000’s) as a recording mixer for mics scattered around a cathedral. I am loosing channels... usually during performances.
I bought my Mackie VLZ Onyx preamp mixer from y'all
Dear Sir, I have an unclear point about 1/4 inch input jack connectors in mixing console. I want to know that whether we're can plug TS or TRS jacks? I need to clear out that these input are always mono????
If the 1/4 inch input connectors are mono, how can we plug stereo jack( if we need to fix a keyboard how can we use one channel??? Or need to use 2 channels to get the stereo picture???) I haven't seen plenty stereo inputs in console in general.
Praneeth Dhanushka invest in a good D.I. Box, Keyboard into the D.I. then your D.I. into the mixer.
You cant plug stereo keyboard into a mono channel. Thats what the channels with a slash are for 11/12 etc. TRS are NOT stereo are balanced inputs for when there is no XLR connections for cheaper smaller mixers, but still can plug a balnced Mic wire to a "Stereo" Plug, or for Inserts Fxs which one tip sends and the other (ring) recieves back to the channel..
One preset that *everyone* uses: Zero the desk! How many years have you spent zeroing analog desks? With digital its just a few clicks away....
But which one converts sound better?Hmmmmm
The Analog Mixer.
How do you prevent feedback?
By using my ears!
Analog beats digital hands down. A much bigger and warmer sound that digital.
Ohh, and another thing: Front of house footprint.... Analog takes serious real estate, digital might be just a smartphone.. or better yet haptic gloves and Google Glass...
ill just stick to my trusted analog mixer and out board gear its quicker not all of us are computor wizz es plus i like the warmth with dgi its just bla
Digital mixer is going to work better with DAW then Analog mixer. Analog mixer is only going to send you 2 stereo signal to your DAW, Whereas with Digital mixer will send more.
This is not entirely true. An analogue console can have as many outputs as a digital mixer, difference is you will need an interface to convert the analogue signal to digital. Most analogue consoles have direct outs on all inputs, aux outs, group outs, matrix outs, record outs, monitor outs and of course stereo, sometimes LCR main outs. It just depends on what desk you get. It is of course going to be easier to link a digital desk to your DAW for multitrack recording, but it can also be done with an analogue desk.
@@mistersmoker7443 I bought an X32 to multi-track record into Logic, but i sold it because the routing was too complicated for me as my first mixer. Now I'm considering an analogue mixer. Is there such a thing as a "simple" digital mixer for multi-track recording to computer? or should I just buy a multi-input interface (like the X Air 18) and call it a day?
In this way of course is better digital!!!
But the real problem is the ridicolous conversion of x32!!!
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Most difference is in sound. Analog is using to get better summing sound. Digital is more easy but you dont get that analog sound.
Ahh, but a digital mixer may well have an "analog sound" plug in effect... You know, a bit like a transistor amp having a "valve" setting.
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