These videos are extremely interesting - the mental image of Holmes in the scenarios you lay out are striking! These videos surely must be helpful to people who need them - props on putting all this out there 👏
I am pleased to know you are finding value in the videos! Even if Holmes does not go to prison, this video will help people prepare for their first day in prison. Thank you!
But the real question is: will she use the fake deep voice in prison? And will she continue to say "uhm, earm, yam" (variations of um) in every other sentence? That's what I'd like to know. ;)
I took a plea deal in Nevada for probation. My lawyer failed to explain that my deal was "non-binding". I was sentenced to 3-10 and at the moment of sentencing I was taken into custody. Your videos are informative, valuable and well produced. Thank you, unfortunately many of your potential audience lack internet access. Prison is a dangerous place and your advice is priceless for anyone entering a prison system. My number one mistake was not to hire a second lawyer or prison consultant to counsel me on how to deal with my lawyer. I would have never taken a non-binding plea agreement.
Thank you for your comments and for sharing your insights. You are not alone. The majority of defendants have regrets over how they prepared for sentencing and prison. Our goal is to help as many as possible better manage this foreign world. Be well and happy holidays.
@George Smith What was ur charge if u don't mind. I told someone where to get dope on Skid Row in LA. Didn't sell anything.Dude I told was an undercover. Everyone said since it was my first offense i would do 6 months.I was shocked.Went to court after being locked up for 3 months thinking I was going home in 3 weeks. They gave me 3 years!! They looked at my record and saw it was pretty clean in California and my own public defender searched Illinois and told the judge. The court system is no joke.
@@JeffWarren47 wow now that's messed up. I've never done crack, meth street drugs but would know what area of town people go in order to find it & I understand what happens to those that go through withdrawals would've easily pointed someone in that direction feeling sorry for them. Will know not to ever do that. They never should've locked you up for that I had no idea they could do that. Verbally warning you would've been more than sufficient. Crap like that's why so many back the movements to defund. The system's not helping anyone not is it rehabilitating them its just put on place to make money & punish. We need to stop building jails & put up more rehabs & mental facilities. What they did to you is criminal in my book.
So you empathize with Elisabeth Holmes if she is sentenced to 20 years - - from my experience with a brief incarceration in LA's county jail - - I could say that I might sympathize with her - if she wasn't such a liar. I have no respect for her former "lover" Sunni Balwani, but she had clearly born false witness against this man. Beyond that my personal experience leads me to the conclusion that hard time rehabilitates no one
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp I really have no sympathy for her at all. No doubt she is a psychopath and criminally responsible. But humanity must be preserved. I have been thrown in a couple jails, even one in Mexico. I know what prisoners go through.
As I put myself in your place while you described your experience, I began to feel a little humiliated and humbled by the gravity of the situation. And more than a little frightened. Thank-you for sharing your experience, and for telegraphing what you felt so well.
Thank you very much for your comments and for speaking so honestly. I will acknowledge I didn’t fully get the gravity of the situation until that first day on the inside. Thankfully, I began to invest the time to build a better future. I wish I had started sooner. Thank you again for contributing to our community
She will be ok. I was at Dublin for 14 months at the camp. I self surrendered and I used my time wisely by reading working out, and meditating. I worked in the kitchen and my time went by fast, She will be scared like I was because I had never even been to jail prior to me serving my sentence. The ladies who were there were pretty cool and there was really no segregation there, Everyone from all different back grounds got on pretty well not one fight while I was there. I’m curious to see how much time she will get
@@sabevabg No, the Federal Prison in Dublin California. He stated the name at the start of the video, and stated that her white collar crime is why she would be going to that prison. So, obviously the OP isn’t comparing a European prison to the one Elizabeth will serve at.
I spent 11-weeks in our county jail 1984 (distributing cocaine for a physician friend ... but not a user myself). I'm a writer by trade. In my first week, a guy was trying to get probation and early release. I offered to write his papers and present his "case." The guards said "nobody ever gets probation from this jail" ... However, he did! From then on, my area was called "the office." I read legal documents, and wrote for all the inmates. I even did some writing for two of the guards (one asked me for a loan). My experience was, well, amazing and I was happy to be encountering people who had made "mistakes." And, most lacked education, intelligence or opportunity. For Elizabeth, this COULD BE a very positive experience ... one that will open her eyes to the genuine suffering and condition of average people. It's time for her to LISTEN ... not pontificate! Maybe a bit of humiliation will help with that massive ego? Of course, I was only in "the brig" for a short time; but I very much value the experience. Note: the judge offered "drug rehab" only (no jail). However, I was honest and said I do not use drugs of any kind at all ... and jail time would be more appropriate. Maybe that's why I got a light sentence?
I pray she does get prison time. No company should ever mess with patients healthcare, even with a single needle prick blood test. I think she’s terrified right now.
My God the thought of a beautiful woman rotting in prison for years and years is incomprehensible! I know she deserves it. She really deserves it. But when she leaves prison after 20 years she will be a withered and prune-like old troll! It’s a real nightmare! May God have mercy on her soul!
I have never been to prison...nor do i want to be...but your presentation was absolutely incredible . To use a cliché...a learning experience. Well said and well done. I am now wondering toyself how much of a difference there is between our two systems...Canada and the USA. Great video
Welcome to your channel! Thank you very much for your thoughtful and kind comments. Certainly some differences between Canada and USA. That said, there is no difference in mitigation. In other words, regardless of the country, a guilty defendant must learn to express through their own actions why they are worthy of mercy and, if victims were created, how victims will be made whole. Again, thank you for contributing.
From what I've seen, (and I don't claim for one minute to have all of the pieces to the puzzle) EH appears to be one of those people who believes that rules are for other people. Convicted "Pharma Bro" Martin Shkreli apparently has that problem. He was caught running his company with a contraband cell phone and he was sent to the SHU. I see EH following a similar path.
You do such a fine job, really impressive. You are thoughtful, responsible and constructive. I hope you make a fortune, or at least a very very comfortable living, for the constructive work you do.
Thank you very much for your compliments. Our team strives to help people traverse this system successfully. Success will not happen by accident or happy talk. Like anything else, it requires hard work that usually begins with looking inward. Again, thank you.
Sir , that was an excellent insight .Marthe Stewart's stay was also most interesting .So very descriptive , caught myself worrying about her .....goes around comes around ....enjoy your stay Elizabeth. What will her nickname be ...???
Thank you for watching. You’re correct. The good thing is even if she is acquitted this video will help anyone who may someday go to prison. Happy Holidays.
You’re awesome, just found you. And like me, you don’t fit the look of a prisoner … every one is always so shocked when I tell them who I used to be 🤣 props to you !
Thank you! You’re awesome, too! I admire anyone willing to work to overcome the consequences of a prison term and conviction. I hope you’re thriving!! Happy holidays.
Thanks for really telling some plain honest simple stuff. I was a young lady. It was1962. My first time in traffic court when the judge called my name as "defendant" ... I suddenly realized I was charged with the minor accident caused by an older man running a STOP sign onto a quiet suburban thru street. Sounds like nothing right. Light damage to my 1958 Olds. Except that I was hurrying to open a restaurant on U.S. 1... so i busied myself prying the bumper off the wheel with a wrench. Plus, the young cop who had been driving about 100 yards behind me walked over and said "I saw he hit you didnt he." "Yes," i said, "And I hafta open a restaurant." I have no idea what transpired between those men. But as I started to drive off, I was handed a ticket which I stuck into the glove compartment. I assumed had to do with some sort of "witness" appearance. Now In court, i pointed to the cop in mufti. "He's lying," I said to the judge. The cop stared at his shoes. When I repeated, "He's lying," the judge told me to be quiet. "He's lying," I repeated. "Forty dollars every time you open your mouth unless I ask you a question," said the judge. "He's lying." "Eighty dollars...." It was the first and the Last time I will totally trust myself ... to assume that I know enough to deal with any new situation. Thanks. Hope I and everyone here be spared the use of your advice.
I was that older man in 1962… So we meet again!!??! I just turned 113 years old… I am so sorry for messing up your life… I would like to at least make a sincere gesture to make up to you … say, maybe twenty dollars???… it’s all I can afford… I am now homeless and living on the street in Spillville, Iowa… I have nothing but the shirt on my back, my Android phone, an IPad, a laptop and a seeing-eye dog named Rin-Tin-Tin… he’s real friendly but if you come to visit please bring some doggie treats for him [and me] to munch on… and may God bless you and the United States of America🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Holmes thinking herself to be innocent is one interpretation of her going to trial but her thinking herself (and her attorneys’ presentation) to be able to convince a jury she’s not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt also explains the fact set. I suspect it’s the latter but, like you, I cannot know.
I do not think that she thinks she is innocent. She knows she engaged in fraud..plenty of people.tried to warn her and call her out. Now she is attempting to shift the blame to her ex boyfriend. Better to stand up and be accountable. Her sentence will be less if she shows remorse and is willing to be held accountable.
John Careyrou (sp?), author of Bad Blood, said in an interview that her willingness to take risks is grossly higher than most people. She'll bet on everything before she gives up.
I have a friend who will be reporting soon for a 3yr sentence on 5 counts of insider trading. I've alerted him to your channel. I wish I had disovered WCA before his trial.
Thank you for sharing our work. He should be planning for a compassionate release due to Covid. If he wants to learn more, he can call our team at 818-424-2220. Happy Holidays! Justin
One of my psychology professors in graduate school told me this: “past behavior predicts future behavior”. that is a truism “. That is a trite phase, but true. I have observed that to be true in my forty years since then. In other words, she will go in doing what has worked for her with probably her parents, especially her father, the old men on her board, and all the syncopates. She probably bamboozled her attorney to a great degree. She is a con artist with amazing grandiosity. She may already be deciding that she is going to change the whole prison system in the United States. There’s no telling what is going through her brain. Whatever it is, it’s not what I would be thinking.
Her hands are in the jury. If convicted, her Judge will sentence her and if won’t be time served or probation, of that I’m sure. One must look to the sentencing guidelines to know why.
Wow! I go through life very cautiously, I don’t live on the edge because I get claustrophobic just thinking about prison and getting every aspect of my life controlled and being humiliated with the strip searches by another human being. Yikes 😬. I remember a TSA agent at the airport putting her fingers in my hair extensions and it took me a month to get over that PTSD. 😭. However, I do know that as human beings, we can adjust to any circumstances and come out feeling that wasn’t so bad after all
I want to thank you for creating this channel. I want to thank you for enlighten us. Please keep posting. This is such a necessary topic. Thank you Thank you Thank you.
Looks like the algorithm is going its job, taking breaking news and tunnelling it into some little highly specific but incredibly relevant and interesting channel. Never thought I'd be here mate, but you've got a sub from me.
Never been to prison but have watched a lot of the live interviews and documentaries over the years. One thing I can say is she is very very lucky she is going to Federal Prison instead of State. The class of Criminals is usually supposed to be white collar crimes and so you wont run into Serial Killers, Child Molesters, Basically sick M Frs. She’s still going to be in a state of shock until she calmed down and lets it sink in. All your advise was spot on from what I learned about Prison. I went through Boot Camp for Six Weeks and I actually had some of the same feelings as a person going to jail for the first time. You get off the Bus and your Ass belongs to the Drill Seargent and you are told to do every little thing and if you screw up your in deep shit. I couldn’t go to the bathroom for at least 3 days and I was miserable. Your stomach is tight from being scared and uptight that your body just freaks out. But I would say after 1 week the routine gets way better because you have most of the small questions answered and out of the way. I hope I never screw up and wind up in prison. I’m not a young man anymore and I wont be able to defend myself like I could when I was younger.
I spent 5 years in prison - as a "sex offender" - having downloaded underage porn. And then I got deported. I had a master's degree in philosophy and was not prepared to go to prison. But fueled by drugs, alcohol and depression, I descended into the hell of porn addiction and then underage porn. I often think that I need therapy - but got prison and deportation instead. Most everything I thought I knew about prison was completely and totally wrong, and I'm quite prepared to say that most everything that most people believe about jail and prison is almost certainly wrong unless they have direct experience with the system, or have had family members that have direct experience with the system, and actually get to know the people inside, both the inmates and the guards. Even after spending 5 years in a state prison, and 2 months in an immigration detention center, I hesitate to make any sort of generalities about prisons. I was in a medium security prison - and there are already differences with minimum, medium and maximum security prisons, and the rules and regulations that govern them.
Lol. I was 18 in boot camp and a hand full of us didn't have the need to go to the latrine for three days. We were to young to understand psychological readjustment aka (scared $hitless!)
@@roccodonato4120 makes sense lol. It’s happened to me every time I moved to a new place. Weird right? Our bodies get thrown out if wack when our living situation changes, especially like yours did!
Sadness... the Horrible Holmes will not do time. Yes I too was young and somewhat evil, and I did no time. Because I walked the 12 steps, I made amends. I don't see Holmes ever saying "sorry" and her having a spiritual awakening without that is not likely
@@SconesAndTea ... Having the heart to steal millions and billions from others, it takes a stone heart. I doubt she loses sleep over someone losing all their life savings, nor regret doing so.
When you have a spiritual awakening, you don’t desire to punish anyone anymore. You see that everyone is simply another version/form of you! You realize, every person is an example of who you would be and what you would do, had you had their genes and experiences ❤️🩹
@@toryche1310 Hi Tory, I disagree. We are not all the same. There is true evil in this world. The biggest "crimes" in the world are ignorance and indifference practiced religiously by the majority. To counter you more directly, the loving thing could include punishing Elizabeth with 20 years, and by that action, spark a spiritual awakening. The only unifying theme in humanity is self-interest
Regarding Elizabeth Holmes she hasnt learned her lessons. She insists in being manipulative. Got herself pregnant TWICE knowing she was going to prision. She is cold hearted even to her own children. Instead of preparing herself physically and mentally for what is waiting her ahead she chose one more time to play the manipulation game. A viciously calculating mind. Sorry for those babies.
My experience in countty jail was a cold place of sterility on one extreme and bedlam on another. The boring food, the lack of amenities, and no medication for a nasty case of flu I had. Fortunately the judge was lenient RIP Florence Marie Cooper
No story about prison count should fail to mention mis-counts! It sometimes happens that the figures don't add up since they not everyone is in their cell. Some are in the kitchen - some are in laundry - and others in school. The count has to add up and on occasion there is a mis-count. When that happens they have to do a recount. Normally that happens without incident. But sometimes a discount persists. So they do another count. If that recount fails to add up again, they everyone has to go back to their cell. The kitchen closes. The school closes. The laundry closes. ALL workers are sent back to their cell. That takes time. Then the guard does a recount, and this time every inmate has to stand up and say his name and number. Keep in mind that this happens in every wing (50 inmates to a wing, 4 wing to a house, 4 or 5 houses on the camp). So over a thousand inmates have to be counted - and each accounted for. A miscount can entail a recount several times which can delay lunch or dinner by several hours!
one thing I've always wondered, are you allowed to take reading material in with you - eg; a novel (fiction, non-fiction, etc). If I was ever put in prison I'd go bloody bonkers if I had nothing to read! Best wishes from Australia.
I hear you. Me too. But from what I understand as a volunteer they can't take anything inside. They can buy things or have services to send them things.
I have been fortunate enough to not be incarcerated. I believe everyone in some way breaks the law; but, the folks in jail got caught. But from your description it reminded me a lot like my time in the military. Particularly in basic. As I went twice. Once as an enlisted and ten years later as a Warrant Officer. The latter being hardest because you "wanted" to be there. :-) We had 34 start in our class and 19 graduated. However, the thing in that experience reminds me of your advice is "attention to details". Little things like being a chatty Kathy doll. The thing that would be most difficult for me in prison would be the self segregation by race. I understand the pressures that cause it. The fact that it is allowed and condoned tells me the guards have to be in favor of it. Or use it. At least to some degree. And it is certainly reflective of certain parts of our society. We had a saying "stay alert ... stay alive". And I imagine that is particularly important during incarceration? Thank you for sharing this experience. I've had relatives and friends go to jail. But they were never real talkative about the experience to the degree you gave in this video.
Sure, most/many have broken a law, or laws, in their lifetime. However, most of us, if caught, did not commit crimes that would warrant incarceration. Also, many who are caught and convicted should go to jail but just get probation. Those in jail deserve to be there. Criminals do have more rights than victims. Can start just by looking at double jeopardy. What a crock.
I hope she rots in prison. My grandmother had a test done by her company and the results had her terrified. Luckily, she rushed to her doctor who did the test correctly and assured her that she would be fine.
Writing from France, where I was deported to 3 years ago, after nearly 5 years in a medium security Missouri prison. I had to restart my life at the age of 61 in a country I had not seen in 50 years! It's been an interesting journey! I've collected lots of stories along the way! I had prepared for many things, but I had not prepared for prison. What I'm curious about is how federal prison is different from state prison. There's some uniformity across the federal prison system but state prisons vary from state to state. My impression is that Missouri is about average on a variety of metrics - some are better and some are worse.
I would think federal prisons are nicer. It would make sense to have them better, this way politicians and their cohorts have a nice place to spend their time.
@@JamesSmith-jq2jc Quite a cynical view of politicians you have there! But not entirely misplaced! I suspect that federal prisons are "nicer" at least to the extent that they represent the US in general, whereas state prisons need not feel as if they are the public face of the US judicial system. The federal prison system has to follow federal laws which state prisons may not be subject to. At the end of the day I'm not sure that there are truly significant differences. I remember that when I was in jail for 8 months that inmates debated whether they would prefer to be in a federal prison vs a state one. One impression I had is that libraries are better stocked than a prison library. That was an important factor for me. Jail libraries are woefully understocked, if they exist at all. (By the way, jail is very different from prison - and jails tend to be worse - sometimes much worse - than prisons. Jails are smaller and subject to funding by the surrounding community. Jails in poor communities will be underfunded, unlike prisons with larger budgets,and federal prisons with budgets larger still).
@@pascalbercker7487 well, I only believe it to be true. In my state of illinois we've had multiple governors go to federal prison, besides other politicians. These sorts are only puppets like most high ranking politicians. They are all controlled by our world powers. Most never see jail or prison because their " handlers " are the ones who control our institutions. The people, aka, slaves, are controlled and manipulated by their valueless currencies. It's the same EVIL that funded hitlers rise to power and WWII. Either way that war would have turned out " they " won and are still destroying mankind, one nation at a time. They use the U.S.A. and its allies to achieve their agendas. Soon we'll be obsolete. It's why we're so in debt. Makes one wonder what is in their LIABILITY FREE vaccines. Hmmm, I smell more war crimes against humanity. What can we do, they OWN the corrupt system.
Wonderful, I know people need this help, I certainly would want to know the things you speak of. It’s a shame that basically good people that made a dumb decision is placed or housed with seriously sick and dangerous people. It breaks my heart the way decent people are treated like dogs. Praise God I’ve never been in jail but over night due to a DUI which was later overturned because my jury actually saw that I was not that kind of person and/or observed that I was not that intoxicated. The cops that stopped me that fateful night after a long hard day getting home late were horrendous. They seemed to enjoy what they were doing. I never spoke back to them or looked them in the eye and they sacrificed me. I disapprove of sorry cops but I believe strongly in our good law enforcement officers that are just doing their job. Thank you sir for helping people through this horrible ordeal.
As a long distance runner in prison, I timed my laps. Needed my trusty Timex watch I bought in the commissary ($40 dollars, I think) to make it happen!
Question: if she gets 10 years, as you suggest, what's the least she could actually serve? And does it go to a parole board, or how is that determined?
There is no parole board in the federal prison system. The day she surrenders she would receive 15% off of her sentence. All prisoners qualify for a good time if they are sentenced to 12 months or more. Therefore, on a 10 year or 120 month sentence, she would receive 15% off that first day leaving her with 102 months. The law currently allows for up to 12 full months in the halfway house. Presuming she received 12 full months, she is left with 90 months or 7.5 years. There is only one early release program in the Federal Bureau of Prisons. It is a substance-abuse program that can take up to 12 months off a sentence. At this time, because she has yet to be convicted or plead guilty, we do not know if she will disclose any history of substance abuse which could qualify her for the program. It is also worth noting that in the Covid era a number of prisoners, like Michael Cohen, have been released early through a compassionate release process. Without a compassionate release or the drug program, on a 10 year sentence I would expect her to serve 7 1/2 years. Lastly, I do not believe she will get 10 years. I was simply using that as an example.
@@ForeverBeach Time flew because I had so much to do! I was never bored nor did I wish for the time to pass. Too many people mistakenly presume that prison time will be "lost time." Not for me or our clients who invest the time to prepare for the hardest part--coming home with a sullied reputation and prison record.
Getting convicted should be a wake-up call to Holmes. She left college before she was developed as a person and really started making one bad decision after the other. She’s probably still in denial. And it remains to be seen if she will take her lumps and try to become a better person. She might remain delusional for a long, long time. But at there is someone like you … for the other convicts who might be able to turn their liv s around.
I can deal with the shitty people, bad food, mean guards, loneliness, restrictions, etc... I just can't handle the lack of sleep due to the CONSTANT noise. I'd try to get myself into the isolation unit; but even there, the crazies are screaming and banging 24/7. I think I'd need psych meds after about a week.
Neither! I served an 18 month sentence at Taft Prison Camp, which is now closed. To learn more about why I went to prison, if you have interest, watch this video. ruclips.net/video/3l_0q_NbcYQ/видео.html
From the experience of your time in federal, to me, you are describing a HUMBLING process. Of course I have don't know or have never met Eliza before or in person, but she strikes me as a person who is not capable of being humble. Time will tell. Btw, I just hope her VERY young children are well taken care of, and they are given the proper moral guidance Elizabeth obviously missed during her formative years. The whole theranos episode was and still is weird to me.
I'm 57 years old in1983 I was arrested in Japan on a Breakdance tour.I had a joint in my ear I didn't say were I got it from.In reality I had it in my ear on the plane had I told them that it would have been trafficking.Im 16 didn't know about international law's at the time.Any I was held in contempt served 8 months with the opportunity to return with a clean passport.My point is I remember my first day in Japanese prison.I learned Japanese, wrote songs and work on the English vinacular.I came back a Buddhist. Thanks for the show 😉
Elizabeth and Ghislaine the musical. The jailbirds are cell mates and eventually become friends. Sadly, codependency and enmeshment define their relationship. All hell breaks loose in the 2nd scene when Elizabeth discovers Ghislain and Chad Daybell in her bed together. Ghislain reaches out to her network and calls Alex Murdaugh in hopes he will pay her for a romp in the hay with Elizabeth. Ok your turn
Wow! Just seeing this video, months after you made it, yet merely a few days since EH was just sentenced. I have a question. Why do I keep thinking that wealthy people somehow will be treated differently in prison than those who are not wealthy? I mean, I have read about this being true for mobsters, even for Petrizia Reggiani (formerly Gucci) admitting this in a post prison interview.
She made a Very poor decision by having a child before her trial. Been building a bond with this child, and if convicted, that bond will be broken. I am not a parent, but being torn away from this infant child will be pure torture for her....
She had a baby as a prop to (try to) avoid going to prison. I doubt she’s been bonding at all. She’s probably furious at the baby for now being a burden to her, and not even keeping her out of prison as he was conceived to do. She wanted to be ‘the next Steve Jobs’, not some boring baby-mama.
This seems like a completely different perspective from what we’ve seen on 60 days in. I have never seen them have the freedom to walk around to the track or library.
You’re correct-for many the hardest part of the journey is not time in prison, especially in a minimum security camp. In prison, you get credit for each day served. A prison term is also clearly defined with a beginning and end date. Many defendants (including me) find the time before prison to be the most difficult part of the experience.
60 days in is county lockup. Truly scary place to be. Honestly, Federal Minimum Security Camps are not bad. Typical schedule is up at 5:30am for breakfast then report to your job, mine was in the power plant. Lunch at 10:30am then most campers go to a class (drug rehab, computer science, HVAC etc or back to work. Count at 4:00pm, dinner 4:30pm and everybody hits the yard to work out (yard has everything, weight pit, Bball, softball, racquetball, soccer, football, running track,billiards, pingpong etc..) or go to another class. After that, Shower, watch TV, go to library or church service, play cards, write letters, make arts&crafts, band practice, call home anything you want basically. Count again at 9:30pm in your room and nighty nite. Wake up at 5:30 am and do it all over.
Federal prison sounds so much better then country. The food I wouldn't serve to my dog. Everything was awful. It surely wasn't anything that you've described in your video in Country jail. Federal maybe a step up I guess. Your videos are very helpful thou.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial you mean the word nonsense? Okay...that never happened (watches admitted in to a federal prison). That's how El Chapo escaped. Maybe you're discussing 20 years ago?
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Where is the link? I'd love to send that to some of my friend's inside. Let me know how I may go about this? I'm genuinely interested...I think you're discussing regulations over 20 year ago...Prove me wrong
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial I’m not confident in how the prosecution is handling the case. I don’t understand why they’re not using her own words to impeach her? Therefore, I see her walking, I hope I’m wrong.
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These videos are extremely interesting - the mental image of Holmes in the scenarios you lay out are striking! These videos surely must be helpful to people who need them - props on putting all this out there 👏
I am pleased to know you are finding value in the videos! Even if Holmes does not go to prison, this video will help people prepare for their first day in prison. Thank you!
People who need them.
But the real question is: will she use the fake deep voice in prison? And will she continue to say "uhm, earm, yam" (variations of um) in every other sentence? That's what I'd like to know. ;)
I had the same question. The vocal manipulation was maddening
Vocal fry is a disease
Some women do have naturally deeper voices…
@@MichiganCrimeTime She, however, does not.
@@richardcranium3417 What was the purpose of her doing the deep voice?
I took a plea deal in Nevada for probation. My lawyer failed to explain that my deal was "non-binding". I was sentenced to 3-10 and at the moment of sentencing I was taken into custody. Your videos are informative, valuable and well produced. Thank you, unfortunately many of your potential audience lack internet access. Prison is a dangerous place and your advice is priceless for anyone entering a prison system. My number one mistake was not to hire a second lawyer or prison consultant to counsel me on how to deal with my lawyer. I would have never taken a non-binding plea agreement.
Thank you for your comments and for sharing your insights. You are not alone. The majority of defendants have regrets over how they prepared for sentencing and prison. Our goal is to help as many as possible better manage this foreign world. Be well and happy holidays.
Sorry about your problems.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
@George Smith What was ur charge if u don't mind.
I told someone where to get dope on Skid Row in LA.
Didn't sell anything.Dude I told was an undercover.
Everyone said since it was my first offense i would do 6 months.I was shocked.Went to court after being locked up for 3 months thinking I was going home in 3 weeks.
They gave me 3 years!!
They looked at my record and saw it was pretty clean in California and my own public defender searched Illinois and told the judge. The court system is no joke.
@@JeffWarren47 wow now that's messed up. I've never done crack, meth street drugs but would know what area of town people go in order to find it & I understand what happens to those that go through withdrawals would've easily pointed someone in that direction feeling sorry for them. Will know not to ever do that. They never should've locked you up for that I had no idea they could do that. Verbally warning you would've been more than sufficient. Crap like that's why so many back the movements to defund. The system's not helping anyone not is it rehabilitating them its just put on place to make money & punish. We need to stop building jails & put up more rehabs & mental facilities. What they did to you is criminal in my book.
Your humbleness and kindness is comforting to those facing any kind of incarceration. You obviously have learned many wise lessons.
Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful comments.
So you empathize with Elisabeth Holmes if she is sentenced to 20 years - - from my experience with a brief incarceration in LA's county jail - - I could say that I might sympathize with her - if she wasn't such a liar. I have no respect for her former "lover" Sunni Balwani, but she had clearly born false witness against this man.
Beyond that my personal experience leads me to the conclusion that hard time rehabilitates no one
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp I really have no sympathy for her at all. No doubt she is a psychopath and criminally responsible. But humanity must be preserved. I have been thrown in a couple jails, even one in Mexico. I know what prisoners go through.
As I put myself in your place while you described your experience, I began to feel a little humiliated and humbled by the gravity of the situation. And more than a little frightened.
Thank-you for sharing your experience, and for telegraphing what you felt so well.
Thank you very much for your comments and for speaking so honestly. I will acknowledge I didn’t fully get the gravity of the situation until that first day on the inside. Thankfully, I began to invest the time to build a better future. I wish I had started sooner. Thank you again for contributing to our community
She will be ok. I was at Dublin for 14 months at the camp. I self surrendered and I used my time wisely by reading working out, and meditating. I worked in the kitchen and my time went by fast, She will be scared like I was because I had never even been to jail prior to me serving my sentence. The ladies who were there were pretty cool and there was really no segregation there, Everyone from all different back grounds got on pretty well not one fight while I was there. I’m curious to see how much time she will get
Universal Star , what country are you talking about ? Dublin , Ireland ?
Dublin, California.
What is your reaction to her 11 year, 3 month sentence? Just curious based on your experience. Thank you for sharing your insights! ♥️❤️♥️
@@sabevabg No, the Federal Prison in Dublin California. He stated the name at the start of the video, and stated that her white collar crime is why she would be going to that prison. So, obviously the OP isn’t comparing a European prison to the one Elizabeth will serve at.
Love you brother…thanks for being vulnerable and through this, paying forward the learning of your experiences
I appreciate your kind words. Thank you so much!
I doubt that even a 10 year stay in jail will make this girl take a good hard look at herself.
Time in prison changes people, I know.
I suppose she kept some of the loot over seas and will live comfortably after 7 to 10.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Elizabeth Holmes is far too narcissistic to change or reflect. It won’t happen.
Totally agree..Her stuck up entitlement will not change
This was so interesting. Appreciate your candor.
Thank you for watching and for your kind comments. Happy Holidays to you and your family!
I spent 11-weeks in our county jail 1984 (distributing cocaine for a physician friend ... but not a user myself). I'm a writer by trade. In my first week, a guy was trying to get probation and early release. I offered to write his papers and present his "case." The guards said "nobody ever gets probation from this jail" ... However, he did!
From then on, my area was called "the office." I read legal documents, and wrote for all the inmates. I even did some writing for two of the guards (one asked me for a loan). My experience was, well, amazing and I was happy to be encountering people who had made "mistakes." And, most lacked education, intelligence or opportunity.
For Elizabeth, this COULD BE a very positive experience ... one that will open her eyes to the genuine suffering and condition of average people. It's time for her to LISTEN ... not pontificate! Maybe a bit of humiliation will help with that massive ego? Of course, I was only in "the brig" for a short time; but I very much value the experience.
Note: the judge offered "drug rehab" only (no jail). However, I was honest and said I do not use drugs of any kind at all ... and jail time would be more appropriate. Maybe that's why I got a light sentence?
I ran across your channel, and I have respect for you. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!!
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial, no problem! Keep staying true to yourself.
Thank you for the time you take to make these vlogs! I really look forward to them. 🙌
You're welcome. Thank you for watching and for being a part of our community. More to come. Happy Holidays!
Thank you for your honesty and humility, and for sharing what you learnt and lived through. This was very interesting.
You’re welcome. I appreciate your kind comments and for contributing to our community.
Such an interesting video, I saw it on my feed and decided to check it out-I’m glad I did. Thank you.
Thank you for watching! Go glad you found value in the video. Happy Holidays!
I’m here after following the Chrisley case and was curious about what Todd and Julie Chrisley are experiencing right now. Good info!
Thanks so much!!
I pray she does get prison time. No company should ever mess with patients healthcare, even with a single needle prick blood test. I think she’s terrified right now.
Is she going to prison?
Why shouldn't she get prison time she deserves it.
Fauci should go to prison.
I hope she goes to prison, she deserves it.
My God the thought of a beautiful woman rotting in prison for years and years is incomprehensible! I know she deserves it. She really deserves it. But when she leaves prison after 20 years she will be a withered and prune-like old troll! It’s a real nightmare! May God have mercy on her soul!
Do you have any videos about the Martha Stewart federal prison experience?
I have never been to prison...nor do i want to be...but your presentation was absolutely incredible . To use a cliché...a learning experience. Well said and well done. I am now wondering toyself how much of a difference there is between our two systems...Canada and the USA. Great video
Welcome to your channel! Thank you very much for your thoughtful and kind comments. Certainly some differences between Canada and USA. That said, there is no difference in mitigation. In other words, regardless of the country, a guilty defendant must learn to express through their own actions why they are worthy of mercy and, if victims were created, how victims will be made whole. Again, thank you for contributing.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial thank you!
From what I've seen, (and I don't claim for one minute to have all of the pieces to the puzzle) EH appears to be one of those people who believes that rules are for other people. Convicted "Pharma Bro" Martin Shkreli apparently has that problem. He was caught running his company with a contraband cell phone and he was sent to the SHU. I see EH following a similar path.
Shkreli did just about everything wrong.
Good advice. I did six months in a county lockup and hearing this would have helped.
Thank you. Glad you’re home. Six months is plenty, I know. Happy holidays.
You do such a fine job, really impressive. You are thoughtful, responsible and constructive. I hope you make a fortune, or at least a very very comfortable living, for the constructive work you do.
Thank you very much for your compliments. Our team strives to help people traverse this system successfully. Success will not happen by accident or happy talk. Like anything else, it requires hard work that usually begins with looking inward. Again, thank you.
Sir , that was an excellent insight .Marthe Stewart's stay was also most interesting .So very descriptive , caught myself worrying about her .....goes around comes around ....enjoy your stay Elizabeth. What will her nickname be ...???
Im a 20 yrs retired corrections officer..your advice is excellent...best advice..mind your own business..dont gamble so your indebted to no one.
Thank you. And I agree: no gambling
Thank you for the presentation on a difficult subject matter. The only thing I can write is at this moment is that Elizabeth Holmes is not there yet.
Thank you for watching. You’re correct. The good thing is even if she is acquitted this video will help anyone who may someday go to prison. Happy Holidays.
You share some interesting experiences and good advice. Thanks so much!
You’re welcome. Thank you for watching. Happy holidays!
You’re awesome, just found you. And like me, you don’t fit the look of a prisoner … every one is always so shocked when I tell them who I used to be 🤣 props to you !
Thank you! You’re awesome, too! I admire anyone willing to work to overcome the consequences of a prison term and conviction. I hope you’re thriving!! Happy holidays.
Thanks for really telling some plain honest simple stuff.
I was a young lady. It was1962. My first time in traffic court when the judge called my name as "defendant" ... I suddenly realized I was charged with the minor accident caused by an older man running a STOP sign onto a quiet suburban thru street. Sounds like nothing right. Light damage to my 1958 Olds. Except that I was hurrying to open a restaurant on U.S. 1...
so i busied myself prying the bumper off the wheel with a wrench. Plus, the young cop who had been driving about 100 yards behind me walked over and said "I saw he hit you didnt he." "Yes," i said, "And I hafta open a restaurant."
I have no idea what transpired between those men. But as I started to drive off, I was handed a ticket which I stuck into the glove compartment. I assumed had to do with some sort of "witness" appearance.
Now In court, i pointed to the cop in mufti. "He's lying," I said to the judge. The cop stared at his shoes. When I repeated, "He's lying," the judge told me to be quiet. "He's lying," I repeated. "Forty dollars every time you open your mouth unless I ask you a question," said the judge. "He's lying."
"Eighty dollars...."
It was the first and the Last time I will totally trust myself ... to assume that I know enough to deal with any new situation. Thanks. Hope I and everyone here be spared the use of your advice.
I was that older man in 1962…
So we meet again!!??! I just turned 113 years old… I am so sorry for messing up your life…
I would like to at least make a sincere gesture to make up to you … say, maybe twenty dollars???… it’s all I can afford… I am now homeless and living on the street in Spillville, Iowa… I have nothing but the shirt on my back, my Android phone, an IPad, a laptop and a seeing-eye dog named Rin-Tin-Tin… he’s real friendly but if you come to visit please bring some doggie treats for him [and me] to munch on… and may God bless you and the United States of America🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
All solid advice to this lady. Wish this resource was available 21 years ago. I'll surely be tuning in ....
Thank you for watching.
Holmes thinking herself to be innocent is one interpretation of her going to trial but her thinking herself (and her attorneys’ presentation) to be able to convince a jury she’s not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt also explains the fact set. I suspect it’s the latter but, like you, I cannot know.
I do not think that she thinks she is innocent. She knows she engaged in fraud..plenty of people.tried to warn her and call her out. Now she is attempting to shift the blame to her ex boyfriend. Better to stand up and be accountable. Her sentence will be less if she shows remorse and is willing to be held accountable.
John Careyrou (sp?), author of Bad Blood, said in an interview that her willingness to take risks is grossly higher than most people. She'll bet on everything before she gives up.
@@faceless_woman Yes, I read his book and watch his additional videos onRUclips. It seems like a good analysis of her psychological makeup.
I love your videos, you are so down to earth, likable and knowledgeable.
Thank you so much!!
I’m not sure how I got here but, your video was incredibly interesting. Thank you.
Thank you so much for commenting and watching. Happy Holidays.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial you’re most welcome. Happy Holidays 😊
I have a friend who will be reporting soon for a 3yr sentence on 5 counts of insider trading. I've alerted him to your channel. I wish I had disovered WCA before his trial.
Thank you for sharing our work. He should be planning for a compassionate release due to Covid. If he wants to learn more, he can call our team at 818-424-2220. Happy Holidays! Justin
One of my psychology professors in graduate school told me this: “past behavior predicts future behavior”. that is a truism “. That is a trite phase, but true. I have observed that to be true in my forty years since then. In other words, she will go in doing what has worked for her with probably her parents, especially her father, the old men on her board, and all the syncopates. She probably bamboozled her attorney to a great degree. She is a con artist with amazing grandiosity. She may already be deciding that she is going to change the whole prison system in the United States. There’s no telling what is going through her brain. Whatever it is, it’s not what I would be thinking.
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You’re a gem, Betty! I love this comment. 🏆🥇
She won't serve. She has started to charm up the judge
Her hands are in the jury. If convicted, her Judge will sentence her and if won’t be time served or probation, of that I’m sure. One must look to the sentencing guidelines to know why.
I wonder if Elizabeth Holmes will be able to wear her black turtleneck shirts when she goes to prison?
Interesting topic, thanks for sharing.
Excellent channel and info.
Thank you!
Wow! I go through life very cautiously, I don’t live on the edge because I get claustrophobic just thinking about prison and getting every aspect of my life controlled and being humiliated with the strip searches by another human being. Yikes 😬. I remember a TSA agent at the airport putting her fingers in my hair extensions and it took me a month to get over that PTSD. 😭. However, I do know that as human beings, we can adjust to any circumstances and come out feeling that wasn’t so bad after all
I want to thank you for creating this channel. I want to thank you for enlighten us. Please keep posting. This is such a necessary topic. Thank you Thank you Thank you.
Looks like the algorithm is going its job, taking breaking news and tunnelling it into some little highly specific but incredibly relevant and interesting channel.
Never thought I'd be here mate, but you've got a sub from me.
Welcome to our channel. So happy to have you here. Pleased to know you found value in this video. Thank you.
Never been to prison but have watched a lot of the live interviews and documentaries over the years. One thing I can say is she is very very lucky she is going to Federal Prison instead of State. The class of Criminals is usually supposed to be white collar crimes and so you wont run into Serial Killers, Child Molesters, Basically sick M Frs. She’s still going to be in a state of shock until she calmed down and lets it sink in. All your advise was spot on from what I learned about Prison. I went through Boot Camp for Six Weeks and I actually had some of the same feelings as a person going to jail for the first time. You get off the Bus and your Ass belongs to the Drill Seargent and you are told to do every little thing and if you screw up your in deep shit. I couldn’t go to the bathroom for at least 3 days and I was miserable. Your stomach is tight from being scared and uptight that your body just freaks out. But I would say after 1 week the routine gets way better because you have most of the small questions answered and out of the way. I hope I never screw up and wind up in prison. I’m not a young man anymore and I wont be able to defend myself like I could when I was younger.
I spent 5 years in prison - as a "sex offender" - having downloaded underage porn. And then I got deported. I had a master's degree in philosophy and was not prepared to go to prison. But fueled by drugs, alcohol and depression, I descended into the hell of porn addiction and then underage porn. I often think that I need therapy - but got prison and deportation instead. Most everything I thought I knew about prison was completely and totally wrong, and I'm quite prepared to say that most everything that most people believe about jail and prison is almost certainly wrong unless they have direct experience with the system, or have had family members that have direct experience with the system, and actually get to know the people inside, both the inmates and the guards. Even after spending 5 years in a state prison, and 2 months in an immigration detention center, I hesitate to make any sort of generalities about prisons. I was in a medium security prison - and there are already differences with minimum, medium and maximum security prisons, and the rules and regulations that govern them.
Depends on the state and wat level in the Feds dude
Lol. I was 18 in boot camp and a hand full of us didn't have the need to go to the latrine for three days. We were to young to understand psychological readjustment aka (scared $hitless!)
@@roccodonato4120 makes sense lol. It’s happened to me every time I moved to a new place. Weird right? Our bodies get thrown out if wack when our living situation changes, especially like yours did!
@@pascalbercker7487 thanks for sharing
Very interesting and helpful video! You're part of giving back to humanity ❤
Thank you!
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@@scottcharney1091 🤣🤣🤣 What would the world do without people to correct our errors. It's not one I make often, either 🤣🤣
@@michellesummers1010 It's my pleasure!
Sadness... the Horrible Holmes will not do time. Yes I too was young and somewhat evil, and I did no time. Because I walked the 12 steps, I made amends. I don't see Holmes ever saying "sorry" and her having a spiritual awakening without that is not likely
When she has that awakening, her life will improve. It is never too late.
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Narcissists/sociopaths rarely change and make sincere amends.
@@SconesAndTea ... Having the heart to steal millions and billions from others, it takes a stone heart. I doubt she loses sleep over someone losing all their life savings, nor regret doing so.
When you have a spiritual awakening, you don’t desire to punish anyone anymore. You see that everyone is simply another version/form of you! You realize, every person is an example of who you would be and what you would do, had you had their genes and experiences ❤️🩹
@@toryche1310 Hi Tory, I disagree. We are not all the same. There is true evil in this world. The biggest "crimes" in the world are ignorance and indifference practiced religiously by the majority. To counter you more directly, the loving thing could include punishing Elizabeth with 20 years, and by that action, spark a spiritual awakening. The only unifying theme in humanity is self-interest
Regarding Elizabeth Holmes she hasnt learned her lessons. She insists in being manipulative. Got herself pregnant TWICE knowing she was going to prision. She is cold hearted even to her own children. Instead of preparing herself physically and mentally for what is waiting her ahead she chose one more time to play the manipulation game. A viciously calculating mind. Sorry for those babies.
Yes. They will be better off with her in jail.
I will take your every word for these experiences and pray I never have to find out first hand. Thanks for the insight!!
Thanks for the expert advice and your kind comments!
You’re welcome! Thank you for joining our community.
What a fantastic, intelligent, interesting channel 👍👍👍👍🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you so much and welcome to our community!!
She's definitely an intelligent sociopath so, she'll end up doing fine. She will con the inmates just like she conned everyone else.
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Great value. Stark. Really stark 😳 but a powerful insight. Thank you.
My experience in countty jail was a cold place of sterility on one extreme and bedlam on another. The boring food, the lack of amenities, and no medication for a nasty case of flu I had. Fortunately the judge was lenient RIP Florence Marie Cooper
Wow, your the calmer version of Wes Watson!! I'm from the UK but still take value from your lessons, thank you
No story about prison count should fail to mention mis-counts! It sometimes happens that the figures don't add up since they not everyone is in their cell. Some are in the kitchen - some are in laundry - and others in school. The count has to add up and on occasion there is a mis-count. When that happens they have to do a recount. Normally that happens without incident. But sometimes a discount persists. So they do another count. If that recount fails to add up again, they everyone has to go back to their cell. The kitchen closes. The school closes. The laundry closes. ALL workers are sent back to their cell. That takes time. Then the guard does a recount, and this time every inmate has to stand up and say his name and number. Keep in mind that this happens in every wing (50 inmates to a wing, 4 wing to a house, 4 or 5 houses on the camp). So over a thousand inmates have to be counted - and each accounted for. A miscount can entail a recount several times which can delay lunch or dinner by several hours!
one thing I've always wondered, are you allowed to take reading material in with you - eg; a novel (fiction, non-fiction, etc). If I was ever put in prison I'd go bloody bonkers if I had nothing to read! Best wishes from Australia.
I hear you. Me too. But from what I understand as a volunteer they can't take anything inside. They can buy things or have services to send them things.
I have been fortunate enough to not be incarcerated. I believe everyone in some way breaks the law; but, the folks in jail got caught. But from your description it reminded me a lot like my time in the military. Particularly in basic. As I went twice. Once as an enlisted and ten years later as a Warrant Officer. The latter being hardest because you "wanted" to be there. :-) We had 34 start in our class and 19 graduated. However, the thing in that experience reminds me of your advice is "attention to details". Little things like being a chatty Kathy doll. The thing that would be most difficult for me in prison would be the self segregation by race. I understand the pressures that cause it. The fact that it is allowed and condoned tells me the guards have to be in favor of it. Or use it. At least to some degree. And it is certainly reflective of certain parts of our society. We had a saying "stay alert ... stay alive". And I imagine that is particularly important during incarceration? Thank you for sharing this experience. I've had relatives and friends go to jail. But they were never real talkative about the experience to the degree you gave in this video.
Sure, most/many have broken a law, or laws, in their lifetime. However, most of us, if caught, did not commit crimes that would warrant incarceration. Also, many who are caught and convicted should go to jail but just get probation. Those in jail deserve to be there. Criminals do have more rights than victims. Can start just by looking at double jeopardy. What a crock.
So interesting, I pray I never need to know these things. But thank you.
Very interesting channel!
Thank you. Happy to have you here.
I hope she rots in prison. My grandmother had a test done by her company and the results had her terrified. Luckily, she rushed to her doctor who did the test correctly and assured her that she would be fine.
This is awesome to hear!!! Couldn’t happen to a nicer person!!!!
I thought this was about Elizabeth Holmes not you
She'll have to get used to eating food she doesn't like.
Food in prison was better than expected! You can really get creative learning to cook with food purchased in the commissary.
Writing from France, where I was deported to 3 years ago, after nearly 5 years in a medium security Missouri prison. I had to restart my life at the age of 61 in a country I had not seen in 50 years! It's been an interesting journey! I've collected lots of stories along the way! I had prepared for many things, but I had not prepared for prison. What I'm curious about is how federal prison is different from state prison. There's some uniformity across the federal prison system but state prisons vary from state to state. My impression is that Missouri is about average on a variety of metrics - some are better and some are worse.
I would think federal prisons are nicer. It would make sense to have them better, this way politicians and their cohorts have a nice place to spend their time.
@@JamesSmith-jq2jc Quite a cynical view of politicians you have there! But not entirely misplaced! I suspect that federal prisons are "nicer" at least to the extent that they represent the US in general, whereas state prisons need not feel as if they are the public face of the US judicial system. The federal prison system has to follow federal laws which state prisons may not be subject to. At the end of the day I'm not sure that there are truly significant differences. I remember that when I was in jail for 8 months that inmates debated whether they would prefer to be in a federal prison vs a state one. One impression I had is that libraries are better stocked than a prison library. That was an important factor for me. Jail libraries are woefully understocked, if they exist at all. (By the way, jail is very different from prison - and jails tend to be worse - sometimes much worse - than prisons. Jails are smaller and subject to funding by the surrounding community. Jails in poor communities will be underfunded, unlike prisons with larger budgets,and federal prisons with budgets larger still).
@@pascalbercker7487 well, I only believe it to be true. In my state of illinois we've had multiple governors go to federal prison, besides other politicians. These sorts are only puppets like most high ranking politicians. They are all controlled by our world powers. Most never see jail or prison because their " handlers " are the ones who control our institutions. The people, aka, slaves, are controlled and manipulated by their valueless currencies. It's the same EVIL that funded hitlers rise to power and WWII. Either way that war would have turned out " they " won and are still destroying mankind, one nation at a time. They use the U.S.A. and its allies to achieve their agendas. Soon we'll be obsolete. It's why we're so in debt. Makes one wonder what is in their LIABILITY FREE vaccines. Hmmm, I smell more war crimes against humanity. What can we do, they OWN the corrupt system.
So glad to hear that sex offenders are deported. Thx for the info!
For clarity, any non American citizen convicted of any federal crime, like tax fraud, faces deportation.
Wonderful, I know people need this help, I certainly would want to know the things you speak of. It’s a shame that basically good people that made a dumb decision is placed or housed with seriously sick and dangerous people. It breaks my heart the way decent people are treated like dogs. Praise God I’ve never been in jail but over night due to a DUI which was later overturned because my jury actually saw that I was not that kind of person and/or observed that I was not that intoxicated. The cops that stopped me that fateful night after a long hard day getting home late were horrendous. They seemed to enjoy what they were doing. I never spoke back to them or looked them in the eye and they sacrificed me. I disapprove of sorry cops but I believe strongly in our good law enforcement officers that are just doing their job. Thank you sir for helping people through this horrible ordeal.
what are your thoughts on her stay in prison (if it happens) vis a vis her husband, and by extension her as well, being a multi-millionaire
Why in the hell would anybody need a watch if you’re locked up in the joint
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As a long distance runner in prison, I timed my laps. Needed my trusty Timex watch I bought in the commissary ($40 dollars, I think) to make it happen!
What you are describing is enough to make you live on the straight and narrow at all costs!!
Well said.
This subject is fascinating. 👀
Been fascinated with it since I went to prison in 2008.
Question: if she gets 10 years, as you suggest, what's the least she could actually serve? And does it go to a parole board, or how is that determined?
There is no parole board in the federal prison system. The day she surrenders she would receive 15% off of her sentence. All prisoners qualify for a good time if they are sentenced to 12 months or more. Therefore, on a 10 year or 120 month sentence, she would receive 15% off that first day leaving her with 102 months. The law currently allows for up to 12 full months in the halfway house. Presuming she received 12 full months, she is left with 90 months or 7.5 years. There is only one early release program in the Federal Bureau of Prisons. It is a substance-abuse program that can take up to 12 months off a sentence. At this time, because she has yet to be convicted or plead guilty, we do not know if she will disclose any history of substance abuse which could qualify her for the program. It is also worth noting that in the Covid era a number of prisoners, like Michael Cohen, have been released early through a compassionate release process. Without a compassionate release or the drug program, on a 10 year sentence I would expect her to serve 7 1/2 years. Lastly, I do not believe she will get 10 years. I was simply using that as an example.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Great answer, thank you. One more question - did the months, did the years, go by fast or slow for you?
@@ForeverBeach Time flew because I had so much to do! I was never bored nor did I wish for the time to pass. Too many people mistakenly presume that prison time will be "lost time." Not for me or our clients who invest the time to prepare for the hardest part--coming home with a sullied reputation and prison record.
7 to 8 years
there’s no parole in the federal system
Getting convicted should be a wake-up call to Holmes. She left college before she was developed as a person and really started making one bad decision after the other. She’s probably still in denial. And it remains to be seen if she will take her lumps and try to become a better person. She might remain delusional for a long, long time. But at there is someone like you … for the other convicts who might be able to turn their liv s around.
I can deal with the shitty people, bad food, mean guards, loneliness, restrictions, etc... I just can't handle the lack of sleep due to the CONSTANT noise.
I'd try to get myself into the isolation unit; but even there, the crazies are screaming and banging 24/7.
I think I'd need psych meds after about a week.
Justin's number ends with 112. He was sentenced in the Central District of California. I wonder if he was at Lompoc or Victorville.
Neither! I served an 18 month sentence at Taft Prison Camp, which is now closed. To learn more about why I went to prison, if you have interest, watch this video. ruclips.net/video/3l_0q_NbcYQ/видео.html
From the experience of your time in federal, to me, you are describing a HUMBLING process. Of course I have don't know or have never met Eliza before or in person, but she strikes me as a person who is not capable of being humble. Time will tell. Btw, I just hope her VERY young children are well taken care of, and they are given the proper moral guidance Elizabeth obviously missed during her formative years. The whole theranos episode was and still is weird to me.
Do you really need to “prepare” to know not to shake hands with a cop in prison??
I'm 57 years old in1983 I was arrested in Japan on a Breakdance tour.I had a joint in my ear I didn't say were I got it from.In reality I had it in my ear on the plane had I told them that it would have been trafficking.Im 16 didn't know about international law's at the time.Any I was held in contempt served 8 months with the opportunity to return with a clean passport.My point is I remember my first day in Japanese prison.I learned Japanese, wrote songs and work on the English vinacular.I came back a Buddhist. Thanks for the show 😉
This is humbling.
100%
I wonder if they will pass Elizabeth Holmes around like currency?
Elizabeth and Ghislaine the musical. The jailbirds are cell mates and eventually become friends. Sadly, codependency and enmeshment define their relationship.
All hell breaks loose in the 2nd scene when Elizabeth discovers Ghislain and Chad Daybell in her bed together.
Ghislain reaches out to her network and calls Alex Murdaugh in hopes he will pay her for a romp in the hay with Elizabeth.
Ok your turn
Thank you for the info. You are awesome!!!
You’re kind. Thank you so much.
Very useful!
Thank you!
Thank you I’ve been wondering about this I doubt she will sure she thinks she’s going to get off
You're welcome!
My friend is a nurse at the Dublin jail.
I like this vid. Good insight.
Thank you so much!
Wow! Just seeing this video, months after you made it, yet merely a few days since EH was just sentenced. I have a question. Why do I keep thinking that wealthy people somehow will be treated differently in prison than those who are not wealthy? I mean, I have read about this being true for mobsters, even for Petrizia Reggiani (formerly Gucci) admitting this in a post prison interview.
ACTUALLY...in minimum security, the prisoner's DO have peroneal resources where they have reasonable choices. WHERE IS THE "KNOCK / RAP" common?
She made a Very poor decision by having a child before her trial. Been building a bond with this child, and if convicted, that bond will be broken. I am not a parent, but being torn away from this infant child will be pure torture for her....
She had a baby as a prop to (try to) avoid going to prison. I doubt she’s been bonding at all. She’s probably furious at the baby for now being a burden to her, and not even keeping her out of prison as he was conceived to do. She wanted to be ‘the next Steve Jobs’, not some boring baby-mama.
You broads are meaner than most men. Maybe she just wanted babies before she was too old to have them?
Hi, may I ask why you went to prison?...I was a bit startled when you said that so causally.
Thank you
My pleasure.
This seems like a completely different perspective from what we’ve seen on 60 days in. I have never seen them have the freedom to walk around to the track or library.
You’re correct-for many the hardest part of the journey is not time in prison, especially in a minimum security camp. In prison, you get credit for each day served. A prison term is also clearly defined with a beginning and end date. Many defendants (including me) find the time before prison to be the most difficult part of the experience.
60 days in is county lockup. Truly scary place to be. Honestly, Federal Minimum Security Camps are not bad. Typical schedule is up at 5:30am for breakfast then report to your job, mine was in the power plant. Lunch at 10:30am then most campers go to a class (drug rehab, computer science, HVAC etc or back to work. Count at 4:00pm, dinner 4:30pm and everybody hits the yard to work out (yard has everything, weight pit, Bball, softball, racquetball, soccer, football, running track,billiards, pingpong etc..) or go to another class. After that, Shower, watch TV, go to library or church service, play cards, write letters, make arts&crafts, band practice, call home anything you want basically. Count again at 9:30pm in your room and nighty nite. Wake up at 5:30 am and do it all over.
Her deep voice will serve her well around the other ladies.
What is she accused of?
Good info.
Federal prison sounds so much better then country. The food I wouldn't serve to my dog. Everything was awful. It surely wasn't anything that you've described in your video in Country jail. Federal maybe a step up I guess. Your videos are very helpful thou.
Who cares if she’s prepared or not. She certainly didn’t care about her victims.
Was that tap on the shoulder right after you dropped the soap?
well done
Thank you
Nonviolent prison is a whole lot different from violent prison.
Elizabeth doesn't strike me like someone who would take advice from anyone whatsoever!
This woman was recently sentenced to 12 years. That's pretty much the rest of my working career. That's a long time.
In what prison may you bring your own watch? That makes NO SENSE...
No sense, unless you’re one of our 200 clients who have been able to surrender with a timex watch they bought on Amazon.
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial you mean the word nonsense? Okay...that never happened (watches admitted in to a federal prison). That's how El Chapo escaped. Maybe you're discussing 20 years ago?
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial Where is the link? I'd love to send that to some of my friend's inside. Let me know how I may go about this? I'm genuinely interested...I think you're discussing regulations over 20 year ago...Prove me wrong
Great advice but the jury won’t send her to prison.
I’m as interested as you to find out!
@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial I’m not confident in how the prosecution is handling the case. I don’t understand why they’re not using her own words to impeach her? Therefore, I see her walking, I hope I’m wrong.
juries don’t determine sentences unless it’s first degree murder/death in some states
First time I've seen this channel. Sounds like pretty sound advice. I gotta ask tho, what did this guy do?